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Geiki_Ganger 01/30/25 3:41:10 PM #1: |
Or is it only the MAGA part of Republicans? --- Nintendo 3DS Friend Code: 3368 - 1137 - 5460 http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q155/Gamecubesupreme/sf7y9s.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Heineken14 01/30/25 3:42:43 PM #2: |
Because they are a small tent party that only caters to greed and spite. The Democratic party has many different interests and goals in it so sometimes there are disagreements. --- Rage is a hell of an anesthetic. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SilvosForever 01/30/25 3:43:35 PM #3: |
Democrats disagree on the right "plan" to make things better. Republicans want destruction. Destruction needs no plan. --- All your favorite RPGs: http://www.youtube.com/user/silvosforever http://i996.photobucket.com/albums/af84/silvosforever/funnygif.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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asdf8562 01/30/25 3:44:08 PM #4: |
Heineken14 posted... Because they are a small tent party that only caters to greed and spite. The Democratic party has many different interests and goals in it so sometimes there are disagreements.This. We could dig into the many factions within the large tent that is the Democrat Party, but short version is definitely the above. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EPR-radar 01/30/25 3:44:31 PM #5: |
It's easier for people to unite using hate and resentment (Republicans) than it is for people to unite on what policies should be in the US (Democrats). --- "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." -- 1984 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Murphiroth 01/30/25 3:45:18 PM #6: |
Hatred and bigotry tends to unite morons, at least until they run out of others to turn into enemies and subsequently turn on each other. And the base Republican platform is hatred and bigotry. You are, of course, well aware of this. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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myusernameislame 01/30/25 3:46:00 PM #7: |
I think in a two-party system it's probably inevitable that one party shapes itself to appeal to fanatics while the other is left trying to cast a wide enough net to get everyone else. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MC_BatCommander 01/30/25 3:46:36 PM #8: |
Yes They built their platform around hatred and fear, it's very effective to unite people under hatred and fear Notice how all these EOs Trump is passing are purely to make things worse for people they don't approve of, it's literally their entire platform. They could try to make things better for everyone but that's just not awful and cruel enough for their taste --- The Legend is True! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Solar_Crimson 01/30/25 3:46:53 PM #9: |
The Republicans at their core only care for the wants and needs of straight White men, particularly rich and Christian ones. So it's easier to unite under that banner. The Democrats ostensibly fight for the rights of everyone else, and due to "too many cooks", not all of them agree on how to go about things. Not all the groups play nice with each other, either. --- "Be good to yourself, because everyone else in the world is probably out to get you." - Dr. Harleen Quinzel ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jiek_Fafn 01/30/25 3:47:12 PM #10: |
Democrats have varying moral standards that are often a key part of their belief system. Republicans have Trump --- I don't believe in belts. There should be no ranking system for toughness. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_Blur_ 01/30/25 3:47:59 PM #11: |
On top of what others have pointed out, right-wing media literally uses brainwashing techniques historically used by cults. So the base falls in line much more subserviently. --- Welcome to your Divinity. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LoZguy709 01/30/25 3:50:11 PM #12: |
Republicans, especially younger and of lesser economic/educational opportunity, lack developed critical thinking skills when it comes to politics, and will more likely adhere to agreed norms of their communities. Democrat-voters are critical thinkers to a self-defeating fatal flaw. However, many of them lack the aspect of questioning the media outlets they so readily consume and let dictate their world outlook. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GrandConjuraton 01/30/25 3:51:10 PM #13: |
SilvosForever posted... Democrats disagree on the right "plan" to make things better. --- Goodness knows, the wicked's lives are lonely; goodness knows, the wicked die alone. https://imgur.com/o21DN7r ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DrizztLink 01/30/25 3:51:55 PM #14: |
Because the Republicans spent the last half-century using tactics of abuse to isolate, brainwash, and control their constituents. --- He/Him http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AsucaHayashi 01/30/25 3:51:58 PM #15: |
Democrats is basically the party of no true scotsman --- http://abload.de/img/pcgamingxtuvt.jpg http://i.imgur.com/9Yv0R2Z.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Starks 01/30/25 3:52:49 PM #16: |
Republicans just want their Leave it to Beaver Levittowns back. --- Paid for by StarksPAC, a registered 501(c)(4) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Deej 01/30/25 3:53:04 PM #17: |
Republicans don't spend months talking themselves out of voting for their guy (unfortunately) --- Hey, everyone, what's going on in this topic? Oh. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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legendary_zell 01/30/25 3:54:07 PM #18: |
Despite all the different types of conservative out there, they all love hierarchy and hate what the left represents. The left remains their ultimate enemy. Therefore they can work together to repress the left/people lower in the various economic and social hierarchies and figure out who will be on top of the new hierarchy they create later, whether that's tech CEOs, military contractors, religious leaders etc. The Democrats are a party of a lot of liberals, a lot of conservatives, and some leftists, who all disagree about both means and methods, and some consider each other more of a threat than they do Republican conservatives. That's why unity is much harder to find. --- I gotta be righteous, I gotta be me, I gotta be conscious, I gotta be free, I gotta be able, I gotta attack, I gotta be stable, I gotta be black. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Anteaterking 01/30/25 3:54:14 PM #19: |
It's easier to break systems down rather than build them. It's easier to do nothing than to change. etc. --- http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hospy 01/30/25 3:54:39 PM #20: |
Generally speaking, your political views are going to be shaped by your experiences, and your experiences are going to be similar to people who share the same kind of upbringing, education, and other demographics. Rural, religious, white, non-college educated dudes is a pretty unified bloc. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Giant_Aspirin 01/30/25 3:55:05 PM #21: |
conservatives only stand for resisting change, or reverting it. being against change is easy, there is nothing more to agree about besides "change is bad. the past is good". it takes very little intellectual effort to be in this camp, no ideas are necessary liberals agree that change is good, but how we change is a big debate, and that's where Dems dont align. then add in the extra effort to think about how to change, and then to agree upon it. --- I hope something good happens to you today Playing: Baldur's Gate 3 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hmnut7 01/30/25 3:57:10 PM #22: |
_Blur_ posted... On top of what others have pointed out, right-wing media literally uses brainwashing techniques historically used by cults. So the base falls in line much more subserviently.On top of that many of the left policys are in conflict with big donor interest, not saying the democrats dont cater to the wealthy but they cant do it as well as Republicans. Equal rights, worker safety, healthcare and the environment take money from the wealthy. More guns, less abortions, hating black, brown and trans people either makes the rich money or is neutral. So the right wing can cater to their hate base while also getting big donations to fund their campaigns, democrats have to choose money or voters they cant have both (they also cant get one without the other) --- Starfire: "They are too numerous to fight. What shall we do?" Robin: "Fight anyway!" (pb) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Voidgolem 01/30/25 4:03:47 PM #23: |
"we all hate" versus "alright let's fix a problem but none of us can agree on how and ~4 of the 70 year olds that have been in office forever and are independently wealthy don't agree it's a problem" --- Why not go all in? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheOnionKnight 01/30/25 4:04:19 PM #24: |
More united meaning more tribal. At a primal level, they're more frightened of death. They want a strong leader to protect the tribe, because they're too weak to protect themselves. They entrust everything to this leader, who does all the thinking for them, and fall into a rigid hierarchy under the leader. Anything that upsets the hierarchy is a threat to their sense of safety. Some might have aspirations to become the leader, but most don't. A majority are content with the association alone; they view the leader's power as their own. So much of Republican politics is driven by fear, hence the Republican obsession with projecting an image of strength. They're terrified of what might happen if they're perceived as weak. --- The owls are not what they seem. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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McmadnessV3 01/30/25 4:06:23 PM #25: |
They are also made up of some of the richest people on the planet. You can do a lot if you have money. --- Thank you for taking the time to read this sig. This sig loves you. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BigSLM1993 01/30/25 4:06:40 PM #26: |
Religion also plays a huge factor. Christianity is hierarchical and sets a moral system to decide who's good / evil. It also expects you to conform. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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aarrgus 01/30/25 4:06:52 PM #27: |
Two important phrases describe it: "Democrats fall in love, Republicans fall in line." ...and... "Democrats are like herding cats." --- Last night I was lying in bed, staring at the stars, and I wondered... Where the **** is my roof? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EPR-radar 01/30/25 4:07:54 PM #28: |
McmadnessV3 posted... They are also made up of some of the richest people on the planet.It is now crystal clear. The US can have a democracy OR it can have billionaires. It can't have both. --- "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." -- 1984 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnsteadyOwl 01/30/25 4:10:44 PM #29: |
Heineken14 posted... Because they are a small tent party that only caters to greed and spite. The Democratic party has many different interests and goals in it so sometimes there are disagreements.Yeah, with left wing parties there's bound to be internal disagreement. Even when people agree they want progress there are a thousand different ways to go about that. There also can never really be a version of Fox News on the left, because the left is a more diverse group and are going to get their information from a wider range of sources. --- "If you are always trying to be normal, you will never know how amazing you can be." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zikten 01/30/25 4:11:44 PM #30: |
Republicans know how to fall in line when they need to. So yes. They are more United than Democrats ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SilvosForever 01/30/25 4:13:06 PM #31: |
Me personally, I don't think think it's possible for any person to morally become a billionaire. There is no achievement in this world worthy of 1000 lifetimes worth of money. I don't care if Bill Gates single-handedly cured cancer and aids - that's not worth a billion dollars for an individual. So then the answer is that they only became a billionaire by extreme luck or by gaming (and taking advantage) others. Sure - some would say "It's all fair as long as it's legal." But in hindsight I think a lot of how they make it big SHOULDN'T be legal and won't be legal some day in the future. Billionaires are amoral leeches who think of themselves gods. They continue to hoard wealth not out of any necessity but because they're psychopaths who want to set a bigger "high score" than other billionaire psychopaths. The fact that so many of our leaders are beholden to these billionaires is a disgrace. Only a few politicians in American politics even voice the problem with the current apparatus. Everyone else is play-fighting inside their carved out toy box. --- All your favorite RPGs: http://www.youtube.com/user/silvosforever http://i996.photobucket.com/albums/af84/silvosforever/funnygif.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AbsolutelyNoOne 01/30/25 4:13:54 PM #32: |
Republicans have for years been united mostly by one thing: all of them fucking hate Democrats It's easier to get them to vote for R they hate than anyone they don't hate to some degree who has a D next to their name --- Born to lose, live to win! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SilvosForever 01/30/25 4:15:34 PM #33: |
We don't JUST need Democrats to win. We need Democrats who aren't paid and owned by billionaires to win. That's a minority of a minority. --- All your favorite RPGs: http://www.youtube.com/user/silvosforever http://i996.photobucket.com/albums/af84/silvosforever/funnygif.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MrMolinaro 01/30/25 4:25:58 PM #34: |
As Will Rogers once said, I am not a member of an organized political party. I am a Democrat. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkknight109 01/30/25 4:34:36 PM #35: |
No, they're not. Seriously, one look at the Republican party should tell you this. Republicans are an alliance of convenience of four major groups, none of whom share much common ground beyond their hatred of the Democrats: -Big Business and the Wealthy, who are in favour of deregulation and low taxes, but otherwise generally favour socially progressive policies (because then the government is paying for things that they would otherwise need to provide for and/or which, if left unaddressed, would impede their ability to accumulate wealth - think healthcare or education). -The Religious Right, who generally favour socially conservative policies on religion and abortion, but often still favour a strong social safety net for moral reasons. -"Tea Party"-style far-right - mostly wonks who favour extreme positions on low taxes, privatization of everything, and the removal of as much of the government as possible. -The MAGA Cult, whose beliefs are whatever Donald Trump says they are at the time. The most fascistic of the group, they favour a large, centralized government (directed at outgroups they don't like), which is against traditional conservative orthodoxy, but they're currently a large enough faction to overrule the old guard. Generally more focused on identity and grievance politics, as well as fighting the culture war, than the other three groups. These four groups share an uneasy alliance, but one look at Republicans trying to govern (or the slew of Republican voters asking what the fuck Trump is doing right now) should give you some idea as to their (lack of) unity of purpose, as many of their goals are mutually exclusive, if not outright antithetical to one another. Democrats are more united, because groups further left tend to have a greater appreciation of the needs of the collective than groups on the right, but they also have a larger proportion of "soft"/apathetic voters who don't turn up for them. --- Kill 1 man: You are a murderer. Kill 10 men: You are a monster. Kill 100 men: You are a hero. Kill 10,000 men, you are a conqueror! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sonixs 01/30/25 4:36:52 PM #36: |
At the end of the day even when they're disagree they come back to "wait, our goal is to turn people." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EPR-radar 01/30/25 4:40:59 PM #37: |
darkknight109 posted... No, they're not.These groups and their divisions are real, but almost completely irrelevant. Because the one thing they agree on 100% is that hatred of Democrats. That's why their base never flakes out in general elections, and why all Republicans are in or pretending to be in the Trump cult. The only way divisions among Republicans become relevant is a worst-case scenario of one-party Republican rule, because that's when the Republican civil war would finally start to determine which faction rules the GOP dictatorship. --- "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." -- 1984 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Robot2600 01/30/25 4:41:35 PM #38: |
darkknight109 posted... No, they're not. Well said. To this I would like to add a 5th faction, split off from Big Business: News and Social Media. Id argue their interests are not the same as Big Business: they want to manufacture chaos, discord, unrest, all to farm clicks. Unlike GE or Xerox or whoever, they don't actually provide a service anymore. Their main goal is shaping cultural narratives and then scamming on the side. --- April 15, 2024: The Day the Internet Died ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RchHomieQuanChi 01/30/25 4:42:43 PM #39: |
Not necessarily more united, but definitely more willing to throw away their morals, values and integrity for a W. Republicans seizing control is more important to them than any of the things they claim to fight for. --- I have nothing else to say ... Copied to Clipboard!
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asdf8562 01/30/25 4:44:48 PM #40: |
Deej posted... Republicans don't spend months talking themselves out of voting for their guy (unfortunately)Also this ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kradek 01/30/25 4:45:46 PM #41: |
They yield to party authority and pressure more easily than Dems. Plenty of Dems were saying they were willing to work with Trump before he took office, they vote for Republican nominations when they think they're qualified, Republican's make it a point of saying they'll never do that. And man, the downfall of Fetterman just keeps going. --- My metal band, Ivory King, has 2 songs out now - allmylinks.com/ivorykingtx (all of our links there so you can choose which one you'd prefer to use) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EPR-radar 01/30/25 4:47:01 PM #42: |
RchHomieQuanChi posted... Not necessarily more united, but definitely more willing to throw away their morals, values and integrity for a WRepublicans don't have morals, values or integrity, so there's nothing stopping them from doing anything for that precious 'win'. --- "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." -- 1984 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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asdf8562 01/30/25 4:48:33 PM #43: |
darkknight109 posted... No, they're not.Everything you are saying is irrelevant. At the end of the day they all still morr united behind whoever the Republican General nominee is. They don't spend months after the primary is over through purity nonsense and moral posturing their own that their general nominee isn't perfect without flaws they disagree with. Sure they will infight amongst their own, but when it matters on general election night, they show up to at the very least make sure a Democrat doesn't win. Or in their eyes, a radical left communist. Our side doesn't have that. Especially when it comes to the coalition on our side who loves to morally posture, and campaign specifically on bashing our nominee all the way up until election night. A coalition btw that has a loud megaphone. Loud enough to make Dems lose swing states. Hence the Republican playbook to prop up that mindset including even propping up the likes of Jill Stein, Cornell West and RFK. @darkknight109 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HighSeraph 01/30/25 4:48:38 PM #44: |
It's easy to be against things. --- She/Her Crimsoness' Alt Dynamite with a laser beam ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RchHomieQuanChi 01/30/25 4:50:07 PM #45: |
HighSeraph posted... It's easy to be against things. This is also true. At this point, the GOP policy platform is defined entirely by things that they hate. They don't actually "stand" for anything anymore. --- I have nothing else to say ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EPR-radar 01/30/25 4:50:57 PM #46: |
RchHomieQuanChi posted... This is also true. At this point, the GOP policy platform is defined entirely by things that they hate.That's unfair -- Republicans stand for bigotry and for tax cuts for the rich. --- "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." -- 1984 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RchHomieQuanChi 01/30/25 4:52:34 PM #47: |
EPR-radar posted... That's unfair -- Republicans stand for bigotry and for tax cuts for the rich. That's true --- I have nothing else to say ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kradek 01/30/25 4:56:49 PM #48: |
asdf8562 posted... At the end of the day they all still morr united behind whoever the Republican General nominee is. Yep. The best testament to this is the protest vote for Nikki Haley in the primary. She was getting consistent numbers, even after she already dropped out she got like 20%+ in GA, I think it was. Yet at the end of the day, who did they come and vote for? The guy they protest voted. Meanwhile when Dems protest vote they also give us Donald Trump. --- My metal band, Ivory King, has 2 songs out now - allmylinks.com/ivorykingtx (all of our links there so you can choose which one you'd prefer to use) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Metal_Gear_Raxis 01/30/25 5:00:24 PM #49: |
Heineken14 posted... Because they are a small tent party that only caters to greed and spite. The Democratic party has many different interests and goals in it so sometimes there are disagreements. SilvosForever posted... Democrats disagree on the right "plan" to make things better.Both of these. --- Time is a funny thing, you know? I guess in the big picture of my life, you were only a blip. But oftentimes, those "blips" make the biggest impacts. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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