Current Events > Bat vs. Knife. Which weapon would win in a fight? >_>

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Knife, and I don't think it's really close.

The guy with the bat gets one swing to end the fight or they're done for. Basically, it would have to be a headshot. A hit anywhere else isn't going to fully incapacitate the knife-wielder. Attacking with a bat is also going to be slower, meaning there's a greater chance for the other person to dodge. And that's it. One counter attack and the batman is done.

In melee combat reach is almost everything, but it depends on where the starting position is and if you know you're fighting.

Realistically the bat only gets one chance to stop the knife attacker before they get stabbed, so they better make it count.

pretzelcoatl posted...

In melee combat reach is almost everything, but it depends on where the starting position is and if you know you're fighting.

Realistically the bat only gets one chance to stop the knife attacker before they get stabbed, so they better make it count.

Its not. Its an advantage, but youre massively overstating it. A skilled combatant can easily win a fight against somebody with longer reach.

This topic is hilarious for so many reasons

Dynedux posted...

This topic is hilarious for so many reasons

Knife and bat fights are serious business

Never bring a bat to a knife fight. That's what they say. That's just facx.

what about a gun with no ammo vs a knife with no handle

Rika_Furude posted...

what about a gun with no ammo vs a knife with no handle

I choose bayonet!

I just watched a youtube video of a real fight in the hood, knife guy vs bat guy. Knife guy had the high ground and still got knocked the fuck out.

I think some of you are seriously underestimating how hard it is to dodge a fucking baseball bat.

Im not strong enough to wield a bat properly but I know the important points a blade can go into

yunalenne10 posted...

One stab to the arm with the knife and you're not gonna be able to use the bat very well.

If you're holding a weapon with 5x more reach than someone and you let them stab you, then it doesn't matter what weapon you have, you were always going to lose the fight.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/1/1b8386ff.jpg

Damn, we are HOT right now!

Rika_Furude posted...

what about a gun with no ammo vs a knife with no handle

I think the knife would be a better throwing weapon

voldothegr8 posted...

I just watched a youtube video of a real fight in the hood, knife guy vs bat guy. Knife guy had the high ground and still got knocked the fuck out.

I think some of you are seriously underestimating how hard it is to dodge a fucking baseball bat.

They all know shurikenjutsu

what about a bat with no sonar

furb posted...

what about a b-

Like a submarine, Mr Wayne. Like a submarine.

Just spin around like a helicopter with the bat and you auto win.

ModernPost posted...

If you're holding a weapon with 5x more reach than someone and you let them stab you, then it doesn't matter what weapon you have, you were always going to lose the fight.

Bat gets one swing, if you can't post up for another swing in time then you have no way to deliver a blow to your opponent.

It's easy to win a knife fight, even bare handed. Haven't you watched Master Ken?

A bat can be used for offence and defense against someone with a knife. A knife can only be used for offence against someone with a bat.

Plus, the bat has better range.

Choosing the bat seems like a no-brainer

A baseball bat has a dramatic range advantage. You dont need to be particularly skilled to catch someone who basically needs to be right on top of you to hurt you with a club the length of your arm either. People saying knife are going off of imaginary scenarios that would require an insane amount of luck on the knife users part and misfortune on the bat users combined

pretzelcoatl posted...

Bat gets one swing

That's just not true, in the video I watched the bat got all the swings it needed.

Knife because the batter will telegraph.

Bat gets one swing? Lmao

The person isn't standing there trying to hit a baseball with a bat. You can 100% flail a bat around and do some fucking damage.

If buddy is flailing a fucking bat, imma take a step back and watch him get winded in 30 seconds.

Musashi won one of his greatest duels reportedly by wielding a long wooden oar.

If you have a bat and they have a knife, your best bet is to swing for the hand/lower arm that is holding the knife, the closer to the wrist the better. Make them drop the knife. Then they have two options: surrender (the smart option), or bend down to try to pick up the knife (leaving themselves open for a full hit pretty much anywhere).

ModernPost posted...

Musashi won one of his greatest duels reportedly by wielding a long wooden oar.

I would 100% take an eku over a baseball bat.

ultimate_reaver posted...

A baseball bat has a dramatic range advantage. You dont need to be particularly skilled to catch someone who basically needs to be right on top of you to hurt you with a club the length of your arm either. People saying knife are going off of imaginary scenarios that would require an insane amount of luck on the knife users part and misfortune on the bat users combined

Assuming that the combatants are evenly matched in all other regards and that the fight doesnt take place in a confined space, the bat is the better option. However, if both people know what theyre doing, its not like the guy with the knife has no chance, the way most people are making out. A powerful swing takes time, is telegraphed to hell and back and leaves you open. It would also, assuming that both people have the same dominant hand, strike the other side of the body to the knife if it lands. If that first strike misses or lands somewhere where they can tank it, then the knife wielder has an opportunity to capitalise.

ModernPost posted...

Musashi won one of his greatest duels reportedly by wielding a long wooden oar.

"No, I am not Miyamoto Musashi. Or as he rightfully ought to be called, 'Master of the Sharpened Oar,' 'Hero of the Blinding Sun,' Or 'Progenitor of Being a HACK!'"

Glob posted...

If that first strike misses or lands somewhere where they can tank it, then the knife wielder has an opportunity to capitalise.

Just tank a hit from the bat then win, silly.

ModernPost posted...

Just tank a hit from the bat then win, silly.

Not what I said at all.

There are plenty of places where even a medium power strike from a bat would more than likely end the fight. Theres also places where even a powerful one has much less chance of doing so. Ignoring that is the thing thats silly. As Ive said, the bat is the better choice, but to act like the knife has no chance whatsoever just indicates a lack of understanding.

I throw the knife, knocking the bat out of your hand. Then you face the deadly nunchaku.

A bat is basically worthless when someone is in stabbing range

GenesisReturns posted...

Just spin around like a helicopter with the bat and you auto win.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmnoIsZ3zMY

pretzelcoatl posted...

if you can't post up for another swing in time then you have no way to deliver a blow to your opponent.

as a person who has reaped the benefits of using a bat countless times in training and genuine self defense THIS is the dumbest post yet lol

edit: i'll go ahead and add that training with dual daggers and using them in actual self defense against dogs has taught me that bats are better against people, dual kabar knives (yes the crossguard locking is essential) are better against dogs

Depends on the wielder. A bat has range and if the user is smart and keeps their distance they could eventually shatter the limbs and/or disarm their opponent. Then again, you could also throw the knife, something that is not really as viable with a bat. I'd say I'd rather go against someone wielding a bat than a knife simply because a knife - again when used by someone who is not a complete moron - is more difficult to read and therefore defend against.

Knife.

lmao these knife kiddos thinking they can just naruto run into someone with a METAL BAT

Ive heard of people getting stabbed 200 times and surviving. Ive never heard of anyone surviving 200 hits by a bat. So bat for me.

psideresider posted...

Ive heard of people getting stabbed 200 times and surviving. Ive never heard of anyone surviving 200 hits by a bat. So bat for me.

Try and swing a bat 200 times in a row and post back the number you stop at lol

I'll always take the knife in this situation.

Getting a good, solid hit with a bat on someone who is actively trying to defend themselves isn't as easy as people seem to think it is.

I could probably take a few minor hits with a bat while doing way more damage with my knife.

https://youtu.be/OHkJxn1_zo4?si=sB54M12bzktuSvCe

firedemon_2600 posted...

Try and swing a bat 200 times in a row and post back the number you stop at lol

lol 200.

Now what

ScazarMeltex posted...

Yeah, people talk about range in this scenario as if it were a sword vs spear scenario where there are literally feet of distance. A bat gives you an extra arm length, and for a bat to be effective it has to swung in a telegraphic manner. You beat that by simply stepping forward as it's swung and lo and behold now it's the part by their hands that hit you and it has no power in it.

You can always tell the people whose closest proximity to real violence is a video game in these topics.

And yet, the scenario you posted reads like a Naruto fan fiction.

"I wait patiently as my foe prepares to strike me down with a bat. My Sharingan activates; everything is clear. I now know exactly when my enemy will strike with their bat and the exact angle and trajectory. My foe takes a stance, lunges into my direction and swings. With relative ease, I close the distance and land a piecing thrust because I am a super awesome ninja assassin god."

This is the fantasy you're living in as you find yourself in a hospital bed after getting your head rocked by a metal bat.

I meant to pick bat, but my thumb is fat and clumsy.

It is possible to defend against and even disarm a bat, but doing that consistently in a combat scenario is unlikely. These things are practiced as a "better than nothing", not something you rely on and assume will work, because you cannot fully replicate such scenarios without high risk of serious damage or death. A bat just gives you more chances, plain and simple.

firedemon_2600 posted...

Try and swing a bat 200 times in a row and post back the number you stop at lol

It probably wouldnt be higher than 10. I doubt that kind of blunt trauma needs to reach double digits.

And I imagine stabbing someone 200 times would suck too. Definitely switching hands at some point lol.

divot1338 posted...

lol 200.

Now what

Im willing to bet a large amount of money you didnt swing 200 times in a row, much less even fucking pick it up. Its easy to come here and post about it, but anyone with a grain of common sense knows the sheer amount of athleticism this would even take.

firedemon_2600 posted...

Im willing to bet a large amount of money you didnt swing 200 times in a row, much less even fucking pick it up. Its easy to come here and post about it, but anyone with a grain of common sense knows the sheer amount of athleticism this would even take.

I want to preface this with I don't think that poster picked up a bat at all. Buuuuuut.....

500 swings is an average MLB hitter practice day.

Admittedly, this is over the course of hours with breaks in between, but you seem to be dramatically overestimating how hard it is to swing a bat.