Current Events > did people here actually defend luigi mangione?

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andel posted...

what exact problem do you have with my description in the quoted post? are public, on camera executions brutal in your estimation?

"Idol worship" is absurd, unless you're buying too hard into the memes. If you want literal idolizing, look at the people literally bowing to golden statues of our current president.

And while shooting someone dead is certainly murder, I find it odd that you find the death of one man more brutal than you seem to find the deaths of thousands. You've seen fit to call Luigi multiple condemning words, yet the CEO merely "might be" a scumbag.

Murder is murder? Then why the difference in attitudes towards the alleged and the victim?

andel posted...

in court he is, but certainly not to random non jurors. the presumption of innocence is purely judicial, it doesnt mean that random people cant come to their own conclusions.

The fact that random people can think whatever they want has long been established.

But presumption of innocence isn't just a bit of courtroom procedure, it's a fundamental right that protects us all. Random people should give it more respect.

andel posted...

no, i saw him on video murdering a guy and have also seen an overwhelming amount of evidence that makes it clear he is guilty.

you know he is guilty as well, you are just talking out of both sides of your mouth while celebrating the murder and pretending like he is maybe not guilty while being unconvincing

no you did not

you were told by the police dept they had evidence

you know literally fucking nothing

in a high profile case like this the temptation to plant evidence is strong

Luigi did not confess so you assuming he is guilty is extremely uninformed

there is a reason trials exist cause things like this DO happen

andel posted...

you cant just murder people in the streets.

You can't? How did he do it then?

The most surprising thing about all of this to me is how many adults there are that still think legality = morality and vice versa.

A dude is responsible for thousands of deaths minimum but it's legal for some godawful reason so you "have" to feel bad and condemn the random guy that he got assassinated by and pretend there was any chance that legally he might've one day stopped enriching himself and his buddies off of the literal lives of god knows how many others?

I'll feel bad for him as soon as anyone can convince me that any of the peaceful, legal, solutions people have been trying for decades that people like Brian Thompson were and still are happily ignoring actually was gonna get positive results. Until then, well, it's not our fault people have been pushed to the degree where a dude getting gunned down in cold blood gets tons of people on BOTH ends of the US political spectrum to basically shrug their shoulders and go "Idk, guy kinda had it coming".

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mangione committed the murder before trump was in office and the insane worship of him predates that as well.

Unknown5uspect posted...

What do you mean? The police do it daily.

the police cant legally just murder people in the streets either and anyone defending them doing so are also scum

WingsOfGood posted...

you can have your own uninformed ignorant opinion correct

but then spouting it off like it is fact is trolling

literally no one thinks he is innocent, not even you with your poor attempt at gaslighting.

if you think this is trolling mark it and move on

Umbreon posted...

Murder is murder? Then why the difference in attitudes towards the alleged and the victim?

TC once posted full on holocaust denial trying to answer questions like this. You probably don't want to know the real reason behind the silly shit they say.

andel posted...

i am baffled after reading the other two topics that people are openly shilling for an unhinged murderer.

You shouldn't be that baffled, you do it all the time.

ai123 posted...

But presumption of innocence isn't just a bit of courtroom procedure, it's a fundamental right that protects us all. Random people should give it more respect.

and the reason it exists is because evidence has been planted before

people have been setup before

having a fair trial is absolutely fundamental

funny tc pretends he cares so much about avoiding an anarchy hellscape yet he stands on the opposite side of one of the most fundamental rights to preventing such a hellscape

the presumption of innocence

andel posted...

literally no one thinks he is innocent

I have not seen the evidence

all I know is they definitely tried really hard to paint him as the worst of the worst which is suspicious and screams they 100% would tamper with the evidence

therefore his right is in question of a fair trial

TheLiarParadox posted...

TC once posted full on holocaust denial trying to answer questions like this. You probably don't want to know the real reason behind the silly shit they say.

Is this true andel?

I'd hate to assume guilt, but if this accusation is correct than man would that shed a horrible light on you.

andel posted...

seems illogical and self defeating to me.

skill issue

Hey does anyone know whether that guy (it was a guy right?) who gave them the tip that led to him getting caught ever got paid?

andel posted...

the police cant legally just murder people in the streets either

Are you sure? They've done it multiple times.

TheLiarParadox posted...

TC once posted full on holocaust denial trying to answer questions like this. You probably don't want to know the real reason behind the silly shit they say.

Oh wow. TC literally has a topic in their history that is basically "Stalin was bad sure buuuut he did some good things!"

Has topic about finding nuance with Stalin, but for some reason finds it impossible to understand nuance here. Huh.

andel posted...

the police cant legally just murder people in the streets either

Murder is a legal term. So no, they can't legally murder, that doesn't make sense. What happens is that they can legally kill people who posed no real threat. Sometimes they kill the very people who called them for help.

There's a response and a big backlash and a bunch of red tape, but ultimately, they get away with it. Sometime's There's not even that much of a fuss.

The crux of what you're pushing is that The Rules work, but they don't.

Umbreon posted...

"Idol worship" is absurd, unless you're buying too hard into the memes. If you want literal idolizing, look at the people literally bowing to golden statues of our current president.

And while shooting someone dead is certainly murder, I find it odd that you find the death of one man more brutal than you seem to find the deaths of thousands. You've seen fit to call Luigi multiple condemning words, yet the CEO merely "might be" a scumbag.

Murder is murder? Then why the difference in attitudes towards the alleged and the victim?

it is well established that trump has the worlds largest cult.

there are videos and social media posts of people crying about mangione being arrested.

no one is hand wringing about a healthcare ceo being called a shitbag. you have repeatedly taken offense to mangione being described as such. when people start idol worshipping health care ceos i will create a topic about that, or when people start praising them for denying coverage that leads to death i will also condemn those people as unhinged psychos. my position on healthcare has been fleshed out on this site for over a decade so i didnt feel compelled to address it as it isnt relevant to the topic in the first place.

WingsOfGood posted...

I have not seen the evidence

all I know is they definitely tried really hard to paint him as the worst of the worst which is suspicious and screams they 100% would tamper with the evidence

therefore his right is in question of a fair trial

Your average person accused of murder also doesn't have a documentary about them in regards to the crime that hasn't been settled in a court of law yet.

Which seems awfully fishy.

TheLiarParadox posted...

TC once posted full on holocaust denial trying to answer questions like this. You probably don't want to know the real reason behind the silly shit they say.

this is a blatant lie. my posting history is well known but idk who you

andel posted...

gunning down someone execution style in the united states has never been legal

Unless of course you wear a badge and the one being executed is black

Evening_Dragon posted...

Murder is a legal term. So no, they can't legally murder, that doesn't make sense. What happens is that they can legally kill people who posed no real threat. Sometimes they kill the very people who called them for help.

There's a response and a big backlash and a bunch of red tape, but ultimately, they get away with it. Sometime's There's not even that much of a fuss.

The crux of what you're pushing is that The Rules work, but they don't.

you wont ever find me jus
HashtagSEP posted...

Oh wow. TC literally has a topic in their history that is basically "Stalin was bad sure buuuut he did some good things!"

Has topic about finding nuance with Stalin, but for some reason finds it impossible to understand nuance here. Huh.

wut? post screenshots

andel posted...

i havent been here in like half a year, but the russia bots and tankie types on twitter were weirdly defending that psycho.

whether or not the guy he murdered was bad really isnt relevant as you cant just murder people in the streets. it blows my mind that people are falling for obvious russian propaganda talking points just because the murdered guy may have been a scumbag

Yep they did. Unironically, it's wild how far we've fallen that people like this get painted as heroes

AnsestralRecall posted...

Unless of course you wear a badge and the one being executed is black

and anyone justifying those people are lunatics as well

TIL anything contentious is obvious Russaian propaganda because that's what they want.

andel posted...

it is well established that trump has the worlds largest cult.

there are videos and social media posts of people crying about mangione being arrested.

no one is hand wringing about a healthcare ceo being called a shitbag. you have repeatedly taken offense to mangione being described as such. when people start idol worshipping health care ceos i will create a topic about that, or when people start praising them for denying coverage that leads to death i will also condemn those people as unhinged psychos. my position on healthcare has been fleshed out on this site for over a decade so i didnt feel compelled to address it as it isnt relevant to the topic in the first place.

Why have you convinced yourself that the actions of the healthcare CEO are not relevant to why the healthcare CEO was put down?

HashtagSEP posted...

Oh wow. TC literally has a topic in their history that is basically "Stalin was bad sure buuuut he did some good things!"

Has topic about finding nuance with Stalin, but for some reason finds it impossible to understand nuance here. Huh.

Yeah.

That's um...

Not a great look for TC.

GeraldDarko posted...

TIL anything contentious is obvious Russaian propaganda because that's what they want.

The purpose of Russian bots isn't so much to push a particular line as it is to sow confusion to the point where people don't know what to believe any more.

They are very successful.

There will be both pro and anti Mangione bots.

andel posted...

we tend to ignore how big of a scumbag a murder victim was, yes. murder is murder regardless of the victim. most victims of mob/gang violence are also bad and violent people, but we still prosecute and incarcerate the murderers and people generally dont seem to have an issue with it.

Once more for those in the back

andel posted...

gunning down someone execution style in the united states has never been legal

Yes it has. Oh BOY has it.

You just had to be the right person, or work for the right institution.

Andel, the reason people are responding to you like this is because you're calling for an order in a time when the system is being disordered.

You are calling for rules in a time when they are being broken left and right by people obliged to uphold those rules.

And your calls are not being answered.

Umbreon posted...

Your average person accused of murder also doesn't have a documentary about them in regards to the crime that hasn't been settled in a court of law yet.

Which seems awfully fishy.

correct

they literally went to HBO before the trial even began and said he is GUILTY and THIS IS HOW

so sorry tc
you think he is guilty because they WANT you to think that

you have NOT seen the evidence

Umbreon posted...

Yeah.

That's um...

Not a great look for TC.

wow

ModernPost posted...

Who needs bots when people like you will do it for free?

I apologize if anything I have said has confused you.

Bunch of player 2s on gamefaqs smh

Umbreon posted...

Yeah.

That's um...

Not a great look for TC.

Is being an anti woke fan of Peter thiel and Elon musk a bad look for mangione? Maybe he isn't someone to aspire to?

i don't defend the guy nor do i believe that declaring open season on crooked ass CEOs will solve anything. even if i'm not a fan of those greedy assholes myself.

but at the same time, it's not hard to understand why people are on his side...

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Toonstrack knows and has had timeouts for it

Toonstrack posted...

[But what about!]

A poor deflection attempt.

Toonstrack posted...

Once more for those in the back

it seems he is speaking in terms of law. If Luigi really killed him there is no doubt that he should be in prison.

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Who he is is extremely relevant, so they should.

They care about what he's done and that thing is killing the UHC CEO.

Kyle Rittenhouse killed a convicted sex offender. Does it also not matter who he was?

Toonstrack posted...

Who he is is extremely relevant, so they should.

Kyle Rittenhouse killed a convicted sex offender. Does it also not matter who he was?

Idk, was that guy Kyle killed in the middle of committing any sex crimes?

The thing that you always conveniently ignore in these topics is that there was and are NO legal or peaceful methods that people can employ to actually get people like Brian Thompson to un-fuck the healthcare industry, or punish him for literally profiting off the deaths of thousands.

And for god's sake don't go "But Luigi came from money, he could've joined the industry and fixed it from the inside!" or "he could've started a charity!" again.

i do find it funny how a lot of media outlets were like "but... but he had a family! he was a person also!!"

then how about the millions of people who lost family and friends cause they were denied coverage for treatments or medicine? are they not people as well?? or do only rich people matter?? smh

toon really pulling all the stops to provide disinformation against Luigi

wonder why

sus

Toonstrack posted...

Who he is is extremely relevant, so they should.

Kyle Rittenhouse killed a convicted sex offender. Does it also not matter who he was?

Its nice you reminded us why no one should ever listen to you.

ZevLoveDOOM posted...

i do find it funny how a lot of media outlets were like "but... but he had a family! he was a person also!!"

then how about the millions of people who lost family and friends cause they were denied coverage for treatments or medicine? are they not people as well?? or do only rich people matter?? smh

turns out he was divorced and separated from his family too

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/b/b7a7beb7.jpg

ai123 posted...

I apologize if anything I have said has confused you.

Actually I apologize, I read that post and for some unknown reason thought it was by the TC. My mistake. I don't think you're actually doing free Russian propaganda.