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ZevLoveDOOM 03/03/25 11:33:43 AM #152: |
WingsOfGood posted... turns out he was divorced and separated from his family too oh really? i didn't know this actually... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HashtagSEP 03/03/25 11:33:53 AM #153: |
Toonstrack posted... Is being an anti woke fan of Peter thiel and Elon musk a bad look for mangione? Maybe he isn't someone to aspire to? Remember just a few months ago when you got a time out for defending somebody with a post history of defending Nazi Germany And now you're going all in to defend somebody who can, for some reason, find nuance and understanding in what Stalin did, but can't find nuance or understanding in this topic. Just saying, you might want to be careful, here. --- #SEP #Awesome #Excellent #Greatness #SteveNash #VitaminWater #SmellingLikeTheVault #Pigeon #Sexy #ActuallyAVeryIntelligentVelociraptor #Heel #CoolSpot #EndOfSig ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ai123 03/03/25 11:33:57 AM #154: |
KajeI posted... Idk, was that guy Kyle killed in the middle of committing any sex crimes?There aren't even any illegal ways. Turns out that, under capitalism, Thompson was just as disposable as everyone else. --- 'Vinyl is the poor man's art collection'. Let in the refugees, deport the racists. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ai123 03/03/25 11:34:49 AM #155: |
ModernPost posted... Actually I apologize, I read that post and for some unknown thought it was by the TC. My mistake. I don't think you're actually doing free Russian propaganda.No worries. Sorry for the snarky response. --- 'Vinyl is the poor man's art collection'. Let in the refugees, deport the racists. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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vycebrand2 03/03/25 11:35:37 AM #156: |
uwnim posted... You got more people defending him now than you did back then.You know I could easily support him giving the history I have with my friend. I dont. Do you know why? Murder is murder. We have laws. Sure the CEO is guilty of a similar thing. Given how his choices of how to run his company have caused many people to lose their lives. Its not on Luigi to mete out that justice. --- All the iron turn to rust. All the proud men turn to dust. All things time will mend ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Umbreon 03/03/25 11:35:54 AM #157: |
ZevLoveDOOM posted... i do find it funny how a lot of media outlets were like "but... but he had a family! he was a person also!!" Those millions? Well they were "no angels" so... /s --- Black Lives Matter. ~DYL~ (On mobile) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HighSeraph 03/03/25 11:36:41 AM #158: |
vycebrand2 posted... Its not on Luigi to mete out that justice.Who is it on then? Cause Luigi is the only one who did anything. --- Crimsoness' Alt ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ModernPost 03/03/25 11:37:40 AM #159: |
ai123 posted... No worries. Sorry for the snarky response.I'd be a hypocrite for faulting someone for bringing some snark. --- The simulacrum is never that which conceals the truth, it is the truth which conceals that there is none. The simulacrum is true. Ecclesiastes ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Toonstrack 03/03/25 11:37:45 AM #160: |
KajeI posted... Idk, was that guy Kyle killed in the middle of committing any sex crimes? He was in the middle of committing violent ones. Not sex ones, but... yeah. The thing that you always conveniently ignore in these topics is that there was and are NO legal or peaceful methods that people can employ to actually get people like Brian Thompson to un-fuck the healthcare industry, or punish him for literally profiting off the deaths of thousands. That's a cop out. Killing people doesn't fix the healthcare industry either. And for god's sake don't go "But Luigi came from money, he could've joined the industry and fixed it from the inside!" or "he could've started a charity!" again. Why not? He could've done a whole lot of things more effective that what he did. --- The succotash is suffering. Comic Artist ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WingsOfGood 03/03/25 11:39:48 AM #161: |
ZevLoveDOOM posted... oh really? i didn't know this actually... https://www.thedailybeast.com/slain-unitedhealthcare-ceo-brian-thompson-was-secretly-separated-from-wife-paulette/ The slain UnitedHealthcare CEO had a criminal record for drunk driving and was secretly separated from his wife for years before he was shot dead in Manhattan on Wednesday, according to public records. Minnesota court filings show that in 2017 Brian Thompson was arrested and convicted on charges of fourth-degree driving while impaired, for which he received probation. He had been jailed for DUI dude was not even remotely a good person at the time of the killing he also was having to battle this in court https://cbsaustin.com/news/nation-world/unitedhealthcare-ceo-accused-of- insider-trading-and-fraud-court-docs-show-stock-fraud-insider- trading-brian-thompson-luigi-mangione-new-york- shot-killed-murder-homicide-investigation-ghost-gun-weapons-bullets-ammo The UnitedHealthcare CEO who was shot and killed in New York was accused of insider trading and fraud in a lawsuit filed earlier this year, according to court documents. not saying he deserved to be gunned down on the street, just saying the media painting him as a good ol American family man was a motive as it was false information ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KajeI 03/03/25 11:40:04 AM #162: |
ai123 posted... There aren't even any illegal ways.I mean, that's just not true. It's just turbo fucked that the ways that will work are the only ones they're leaving on the table. But like I said when this first happened, one death rarely changes anything in the big picture. --- Look, I can name a few instances in MY life where I tried to reach mutual understanding and i can TELL you, always faster and easier to just kill em. Just is! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hejiru 03/03/25 11:40:45 AM #164: |
That CEO killed way more people than Luigi did. --- The difference between fiction and reality is that fiction has to make sense. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Toonstrack 03/03/25 11:41:15 AM #165: |
[LFAQs-redacted-quote] Thats a problem. And why mangione needs to be prosecuted for his actions. Again, people don't care about who these people are. Where did Kyle Rittenhouse kill a convicted sex offender? During a protest regarding Black Lives Matter. You're not understanding how people think. Rittenhouse didn't just kill a convicted sex offender. He killed someone protesting the police brutality We don't actually know what that guy was doing or what his views on the protest were. Clearly, not everyone there was in support of BLM. I know how people thing. I just also see how wrong their line of thinking is. --- The succotash is suffering. Comic Artist ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Toonstrack 03/03/25 11:43:58 AM #166: |
HashtagSEP posted... Remember just a few months ago when you got a time out for defending somebody with a post history of defending Nazi Germany I never got timed out for any such thing. Buddy I can assure you if I got timed out for that I would not be here. --- The succotash is suffering. Comic Artist ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KajeI 03/03/25 11:44:48 AM #167: |
Toonstrack posted... He was in the middle of committing violent ones. Not sex ones, but... yeah.So, no, he wasn't. Now remind me, was Brian Thompson in the middle of enriching himself off the deaths of thousands of others at the time he was killed? Toonstrack posted... That's a cop out. Killing people doesn't fix the healthcare industry either.It's not a cop out at all, but I already know you don't know your history well enough. If you want to make the claim that there were peaceful solutions that could've worked out for everyone, you've gotta put in the work to make that seem like they are/weere reasonably achievable and not an incredibly idealistic, ignorant, and shortsighted delusion that you wish was true. Toonstrack posted... Why not? He could've done a whole lot of things more effective that what he did.Go on then, walk us through them. It's been a while, I'm sure you've had the time to come up with something that won't just result in you embarrassing yourself again. --- Look, I can name a few instances in MY life where I tried to reach mutual understanding and i can TELL you, always faster and easier to just kill em. Just is! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WingsOfGood 03/03/25 11:45:29 AM #168: |
Toonstrack posted... Buddy I can assure you if I got timed out for that I would not be here. why do you never learn? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KajeI 03/03/25 11:46:08 AM #169: |
KajeI posted... Hey does anyone know whether that guy (it was a guy right?) who gave them the tip that led to him getting caught ever got paid?I'm also still interested in knowing if anyone knows if this dude got paid or not. --- Look, I can name a few instances in MY life where I tried to reach mutual understanding and i can TELL you, always faster and easier to just kill em. Just is! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WingsOfGood 03/03/25 11:47:23 AM #171: |
KajeI posted... I'm also still interested in knowing if anyone knows if this dude got paid or not. I don't think anyone knows more than likely he did not get paid pretty sure NY said they were already onto Luigi (a lie based on everything said prior) and therefore wouldn't consider his tip significant ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Umbreon 03/03/25 11:47:45 AM #172: |
WingsOfGood posted... He had been jailed for DUI So the CEO didn't merely throw away lives for profit, he also saw fit to gamble innocent lives by drunk driving. --- Black Lives Matter. ~DYL~ (On mobile) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ROBBAN 03/03/25 11:48:18 AM #173: |
when the powerful make peaceful protest powerless, then violent protest is the only plausible conclusion. Frances King didn't listen to the people, and thus the Revolution was inevitable. American Independance didn't come about by asking nicely. --- Kremlin delenda est ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Unknown5uspect 03/03/25 11:49:50 AM #175: |
andel posted... the police cant legally just murder people in the streets either and anyone defending them doing so are also scumBut they still do, all the time. And they very rarely face consequences for doing so. Sure sounds like they can just legally murder people in the streets. --- How can the moon landing be real if the moon isn't real? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Toonstrack 03/03/25 11:52:05 AM #176: |
KajeI posted... So, no, he wasn't. You have to actively be committing a crime to be a bad person? I can't believe this is the angle you're trying lmao. It's not a cop out at all It is; and mangiones actions prove it. He saved no one. If you want to make the claim that there were peaceful solutions that could've worked out for everyone, you've gotta put in the work to make that seem like they are/weere reasonably achievable and not an incredibly idealistic, ignorant, and shortsighted delusion that you wish was true. Peaceful solutions are sometimes idealistic, but they are also better in every way, and about equally as effective so... yeah. Also mangiones actions were incredibly shortsighted themselves. --- The succotash is suffering. Comic Artist ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ai123 03/03/25 11:52:45 AM #177: |
ROBBAN posted... when the powerful make peaceful protest powerless, then violent protest is the only plausible conclusion.For success, you need ruthless, skilled, leadership and clearly defined goals. Otherwise you end up with an 'Arab Spring' situation. --- 'Vinyl is the poor man's art collection'. Let in the refugees, deport the racists. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KajeI 03/03/25 11:58:34 AM #179: |
Toonstrack posted... You have to actively be committing a crime to be a bad person?Answer the question Toon. KajeI posted... So, no, he wasn't. Now remind me, was Brian Thompson in the middle of enriching himself off the deaths of thousands of others at the time he was killed? Toonstrack posted... I can't believe this is the angle you're trying lmao.Luckily it's not the angle I'm trying, you're the one hung up on whether or not the victim was a bad person or not. Toonstrack posted... It is; and mangiones actions prove it. He saved no one.You have no idea how many lives have been saved by Brain Thompson being killed. No one does. Do you think his future actions were going to cause less deaths than if he'd been allowed to do his work? Toonstrack posted... Peaceful solutions are sometimes idealistic, but they are also better in every way, and about equally as effective so... yeah. Also mangiones actions were incredibly shortsighted themselves.Cop out answer. What viable peaceful alternatives are/were available? You're so adamant that they're there, show your work. KajeI posted... Go on then, walk us through them. It's been a while, I'm sure you've had the time to come up with something that won't just result in you embarrassing yourself again.We're waiting. Make sure not to name ones people have already been trying for decades. --- Look, I can name a few instances in MY life where I tried to reach mutual understanding and i can TELL you, always faster and easier to just kill em. Just is! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Umbreon 03/03/25 12:01:33 PM #180: |
KajeI posted... Hey does anyone know whether that guy (it was a guy right?) who gave them the tip that led to him getting caught ever got paid? So I'm not entirely sure on all of this so grain of salt and all that. The NYPD offered a 10k reward. No one bit, so the FBI threw in 50k if someone sends in a tip that leads to an arrest. So the string for the NYPD money is that Luigi has to be convicted as well, so the tipster isn't seeing that money until that happens. IF it happens. And because the tipster called 911 instead of the CrimeStopers hotline, the tipster may not technically be eligible for the 50k. In other words, that person currently has a goose egg. --- Black Lives Matter. ~DYL~ (On mobile) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KajeI 03/03/25 12:02:49 PM #181: |
Umbreon posted... So I'm not entirely sure on all of this so grain of salt and all that.I'll keep that in mind and check in again after Luigi's in jail then. --- Look, I can name a few instances in MY life where I tried to reach mutual understanding and i can TELL you, always faster and easier to just kill em. Just is! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ROBBAN 03/03/25 12:05:02 PM #182: |
whether one supports him or not, i find it disconcerting that they spent much more effort on him than, say, any of the school shooters just cause a rich guy died even by the way he was escorted by like 25 police officers --- Kremlin delenda est ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Toonstrack 03/03/25 12:06:35 PM #183: |
KajeI posted... Answer the question Toon. You first. Luckily it's not the angle I'm trying, you're the one hung up on whether or not the victim was a bad person or not. No, the victim was not the subject of my point. The killer was. You have no idea how many lives have been saved by Brain Thompson being killed. Yes I do. Because Brian was just running the machine. He wasn't "actively" killing anyone. The machine he was running was, but even THAT is a nuanced conversation most here aren't willing to have. And that machine still runs. Cop out answer. What viable peaceful alternatives are/were available? You're so adamant that they're there, show your work. Its not my work under scrutiny. Its luigis. Stop with the bad faith BS. I never said I could solve healthcare. I said murdering people on the street isn't the way to do it. --- The succotash is suffering. Comic Artist ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ItsNotA2Mer 03/03/25 12:07:14 PM #185: |
andel posted... i havent been here in like half a year, Should have made it a full year. But yeah, Luigi isn't a hero. --- It's not the cough that carries you off, it's the coffin they carry you off in. (He/Him). ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pauIie 03/03/25 12:08:57 PM #186: |
free luigi --- http://i.imgur.com/O5APL.jpg http://www.last.fm/user/jaeganja ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Umbreon 03/03/25 12:11:47 PM #187: |
ROBBAN posted... whether one supports him or not, i find it disconcerting that they spent much more effort on him than, say, any of the school shooters Way less than what someone who shot up a church in my state got. --- Black Lives Matter. ~DYL~ (On mobile) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sonixs 03/03/25 12:23:51 PM #188: |
How do we even know that Luigi was actually the same guy that shot the CEO? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ai123 03/03/25 12:25:03 PM #189: |
Sonixs posted... How do we even know that Luigi was actually the same guy that shot the CEO?That should be what the trial is for. --- 'Vinyl is the poor man's art collection'. Let in the refugees, deport the racists. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WingsOfGood 03/03/25 12:25:43 PM #190: |
Sonixs posted... How do we even know that Luigi was actually the same guy that shot the CEO? we don't the police claim he is that is all but people with certain mindsets believe they must be super duper honest especially after being puzzled for days with no leads and then all the sudden having the Mayor perp walk him ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HashtagSEP 03/03/25 12:26:20 PM #191: |
Sonixs posted... How do we even know that Luigi was actually the same guy that shot the CEO? TC told us so. And if you believe in trials or innocent until proven guilty you're a Russian bot or murder loving anarchist or something. --- #SEP #Awesome #Excellent #Greatness #SteveNash #VitaminWater #SmellingLikeTheVault #Pigeon #Sexy #ActuallyAVeryIntelligentVelociraptor #Heel #CoolSpot #EndOfSig ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LightSnake 03/03/25 12:30:01 PM #192: |
HashtagSEP posted... TC told us so. You're not on his jury and you're not obliged to pretend he's innocent. --- Ring the bells that still can ring/Forget your perfect offering/There is a crack in everything/That's how the light gets in."- RIP, Leonard Cohen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WingsOfGood 03/03/25 12:33:13 PM #193: |
LightSnake posted... You're not on his jury and you're not obliged to pretend he's innocent. what proof do you have he is guilty? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HashtagSEP 03/03/25 12:33:14 PM #194: |
LightSnake posted... You're not on his jury and you're not obliged to pretend he's innocent. Where did I do that? Because I implied I believe in trials and the idea of innocent until proven guilty? Is THAT what got you so hot and bothered? --- #SEP #Awesome #Excellent #Greatness #SteveNash #VitaminWater #SmellingLikeTheVault #Pigeon #Sexy #ActuallyAVeryIntelligentVelociraptor #Heel #CoolSpot #EndOfSig ... Copied to Clipboard!
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andel 03/03/25 12:34:28 PM #195: |
CyricZ posted... Yes it has. Oh BOY has it. disorder accomplishes exactly nothing here. change in the us has almost always been incremental, and the idea that killing one easily replaceable guy will cause some kind of change is absurd. there will always be a new guy to step into the position left vacant and continue the same kind of behaviors. killing this guy accomplishes less than nothing, it just exposes the killer as a lunatic. the idea that people are mad so somehow murder is ok is devoid of any logic at all real change in this country has to come through elections and legislation and judicial oversight. there will always be injustice in any society, but murdering people wont do anything but undermine the purported cause of the murderer and end up with their life being forfeit. change has never come in any society instantly, and extrajudicial murder of some patsy ceo who doesnt control policy wont change that. i will ask the same question another guy asked that got ignored (and will be likely ignored again). where is the line drawn? is it ok to murder tobaccoo execs? alcohol? gambling? unhealthy food? when is it ok to have a braindead level of bloodlust and when does it become abhorrent behavior? --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LightSnake 03/03/25 12:34:42 PM #196: |
Don't be coy after the quoted post. You don't need to pretend the guy caught with the gun and manifesto is being railroaded. --- Ring the bells that still can ring/Forget your perfect offering/There is a crack in everything/That's how the light gets in."- RIP, Leonard Cohen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rika_Furude 03/03/25 12:34:49 PM #197: |
Do you people think it is more likely Luigi shot the CEO, or more likely he didnt shoot the CEO? You people need to sober up, youre on some real trash ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AceMos 03/03/25 12:35:32 PM #198: |
HashtagSEP posted... Oh wow. TC literally has a topic in their history that is basically "Stalin was bad sure buuuut he did some good things!" got a link --- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.*does her janpuu dance* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HashtagSEP 03/03/25 12:35:51 PM #199: |
LightSnake posted... Don't be coy after the quoted post. Where did I do that? --- #SEP #Awesome #Excellent #Greatness #SteveNash #VitaminWater #SmellingLikeTheVault #Pigeon #Sexy #ActuallyAVeryIntelligentVelociraptor #Heel #CoolSpot #EndOfSig ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WingsOfGood 03/03/25 12:35:52 PM #200: |
LightSnake posted... Don't be coy after the quoted post. so you were there or you parrot what the police told the press? in other words you have no fucking clue ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WingsOfGood 03/03/25 12:36:15 PM #201: |
WingsOfGood posted... we don't ... Copied to Clipboard!
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