Current Events > Pro-Palestinian Groups Have More Demands for Democrats

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https://www.politico.com/news/2025/03/12/pro-palestinian-groups-dnc-00225896

Democrats still have a Gaza problem four months after Kamala Harris loss.

A quartet of progressive advocacy groups are asking the Democratic National Committee in a new letter to better engage with pro-Palestinian voters, according to a copy shared with POLITICO a sign that the partys rift over the Israel-Hamas war could stretch into the midterms.

In the letter addressed to DNC Chair Ken Martin and Executive Director Roger Lau, IMEU Policy Project, IfNotNow, Gen-Z for Change and Justice Democrats accuse the Harris campaign of taking policy stances and issuing voter-outreach directives that served to villainize and ignore Democratic voters who were opposed to Israels actions in Gaza and wanted the Biden administration to withhold military aid to the country.

That includes limiting follow-up to people who responded to campaign text messages by asking about Gaza, according to a Harris campaign organizer granted anonymity to discuss the internal instruction that was previously reported by NBC News.

The groups are asking the DNC to improve data collection on that front and to probe the Harris campaigns actions on the issue as part of Martins promised post-election review. They are asking for a meeting with the newly installed chair ahead of the reports release to discuss their own voter-engagement experiences over Gaza.

They also want Martin to assess whether Harris and President Joe Bidens stances on Israel and Palestine turned away voters, citing post-election polling from IMEU and YouGov that showed ending Israels violence in Gaza was the top issue for nearly 30 percent of voters who cast ballots for Biden in 2020 and someone other than Harris in 2024. The economy was a close second.

And theyre angling to limit the influence of a powerful pro-Israel advocacy group, the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, by calling for a ban on super PAC spending in Democratic primaries a signal of potential intra-party clashes over Israel policy to come.

The DNC did not immediately respond to questions about the letter.

Pro-Palestinian protests last year over the Biden administrations handling of the war gave rise to a movement of uncommitted voters that opened a schism among traditionally Democratic constituencies and damaged Harris in some traditionally Democratic Arab American areas. Leaders in those communities have argued in the weeks and months since Harris loss that the then-vice president made strategic errors by refusing to give a Palestinian American a speaking slot at the Democratic National Convention and shutting down protesters at campaign rallies who criticized her solidarity with Biden in supporting Israel.

The chasm between the Democratic base and the Harris campaign could have been narrowed and course-corrected months prior to the election, the advocacy groups argued in their letter to Martin. The pattern of disregarding and ignoring the issues Democratic voters care about, may it be rising costs of living or ending U.S. complicity in war crimes abroad, will not lead to winning elections.

The letter comes days after the arrest of a Palestinian graduate student involved in anti-Israel protests at Columbia University re-ignited a debate about immigration, free speech and anti-war protests on college campuses. Since President Donald Trumps victory in November, pro-Palestinian groups in the U.S. have been confronting the challenge of an administration that has been sharply critical pro-Palestinian movement.

Trump: "Fuck Gaza and fuck Palestine. I love Israel and Russia."

Pro-Palestine groups: "You see the Democrats messaging is the problem."

But they got the uncommitted results that they wanted, so why are they still whining at Democrats?

Yea Trump is trying to kill us, but don't you see? Democrats are the problem.

Still afraid of confronting the GOP, I see.

They arent exactly in a position to demand anything. The dems didnt listen to them before. No reason to listen now.

Protest the people in power you pussies. Dare you.

Akuryu posted...

Protest the people in power you pussies. Dare you.

There's been multiple rallies and protests against Trump from these guys within the last week alone.

You didn't stand with the Democrats when it mattered, preferring to stand alone.

And alone is where you are, easy pickings for anyone with a grudge to target.

And there you'll stay, alone, for as long as you demand others bow to your whims. How long you'll continue to exist as a political force, however, is up for debate.

For all the Democrats have to do is... turn a blind eye. And with that, you will be destroyed by those you refused to help stop (see: stand with Democrats).

Solar_Crimson posted...

Still afraid of confronting the GOP, I see.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/3/13/arrests-at-trump-tower-as-mahmoud-khalil-demonstrations-continue

Stop lying

Zero_Destroyer posted...

There's been multiple rallies and protests against Trump from these guys within the last week alone.

Quiet you! You're getting facts in their narrative!

Zero_Destroyer posted...

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/3/13/arrests-at-trump-tower-as-mahmoud-khalil-demonstrations-continue

Stop lying

If only they could find that energy before the election when it actually mattered.

Plans

• Do sit in
• Demand something
• Throw baby out with bath water if they can't get their way
• Say it's everyone else's fault that they made them do that.

Zero_Destroyer posted...

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/3/13/arrests-at-trump-tower-as-mahmoud-khalil-demonstrations-continue

Stop lying

Those were American Jews. The very people the "Champions of Gaza" declared were genocidal Zionist pigs. And who they targeted regardless of association with Israel's government.

It's funny how Al Jazeera buried that lede until much later in their article.

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Jewish protesters flood Trump Towers lobby to demand Mahmoud Khalils release

https://apnews.com/article/columbia-university-protests-khalil-trump-tower-8e2f455134a2f1b82458e32aecbb59f7

NEW YORK (AP) Demonstrators from a Jewish group filled the lobby of Trump Tower on Thursday to denounce the immigration arrest of Mahmoud Khalil, a pro-Palestinian activist who helped lead protests against Israel at Columbia University.

The demonstrators from Jewish Voice for Peace wore red shirts reading Jews say stop arming Israel and held up banners as they chanted Bring Mahmoud home now! on the lower level of the Fifth Avenue buildings public atrium.

(more at link)

Tom_Joad posted...

Those were American Jews. The very people the "Champions of Gaza" declared were genocidal Zionist pigs. And who they targeted regardless of association with Israel's government.

It's funny how Al Jazeera buried that lede until much later in their article.

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Jewish protesters flood Trump Towers lobby to demand Mahmoud Khalils release

https://apnews.com/article/columbia-university-protests-khalil-trump-tower-8e2f455134a2f1b82458e32aecbb59f7

That's a whole lotta bluster just to say "Pro-Palestinian protestors are at Trump Tower actively protesting his decision to imprison a guy for exercising his freedom of speech" but hey man if you want me to just dig up all the other extremely loud pro-Palestine protests directed at Trump I could do that too!

It's "Where are Palestinian rights advocates and protesters when Trump is doing stuff" when they are there and have been there the whole time, then it's meandering without conceding you were wrong, but you don't really care because you're more concerned about being mad about November.

whitelytning posted...

The dems didnt listen to them before.

And look how that turned out.

Thanatos_the_Great posted...

And look how that turned out.

You think the election results would have been different if they did? Kamala got crushed because she lost the middle. She only would have done worse with the middle is she tried to appeal to the fringe left.

Sure. They might as well meet with them. Dems are powerless to make any changes before the genocide is completed

This is literally a "I need to blame not voting for Harris on someone else because I lack the ability to be responsible for my own actions" bullshit.

Unreal.

Thanatos_the_Great posted...

And look how that turned out.

Wait are you saying Pro-Palestinian are the reason for Trump being in power?

whitelytning posted...

She only would have done worse with the middle is she tried to appeal to the fringe left.

Obama and Biden both won appealing to the left, not capitulating to the right.

whitelytning posted...

You think the election results would have been different if they did? Kamala got crushed because she lost the middle. She only would have done worse with the middle is she tried to appeal to the fringe left.

Opposing Israel's actions were, in fact, supported by moderates and independents per polling. It was not a fringe issue in terms of ideology, only in terms of how much in likely impacted the election, since few were single issue voters over this and most were concentrated in states like Georgia and Michigan.

TLDR: "We got Trump elected like we wanted but it's actually the Dems fault."

Wouldn't be surprised if this was manufactured propaganda or just the lasting effects of it. Here's an article from 2023 from the International Centre for Counter-Terrorism:

https://icct.nl/publication/how-russia-uses-israel-gaza-crisis-its-disinformation-campaign-against-west

Through such statements, Russia attempts to equate the Israel-Gaza crisis with the Russo-Ukrainian war, that is, the Special Military Operation, which pits Russia against the West in general, and the US in particular. President Putin has blamed the conflict on the failure of US foreign policy in the region, which aligns with Russias narrative on US' unipolarity and its simultaneous steady decline as a world power. Consequently, such a reading of the situation assumes that the Israel-Palestine conflict is thus not a matter of Palestinian self-determination, but rather another proxy war between the US, and forces opposing unipolar world order. This Analysis will discuss Russias narratives around the recent escalations in the Israel-Gaza crisis and the consequent anti-Semitic incidents in Russias southern regions.

Tom_Joad posted...

Also, buddy, you were in the Israel/Palestine war threads for months carrying water for IDF propaganda and defending the Israeli government's actions and very actively and openly mocking anybody calling Israel's actions in Gaza a genocide. I don't think you have any room at all to gloat about anything.

Trump's DHS is literally going door to door raiding university dorm rooms looking for gaza champions, and pro-Israel groups are giving Trump lists of names of people to jail and deport, but Democrats are clearly the problem here.

havean776 posted...

Wait are you saying Pro-Palestinian are the reason for Trump being in power?

No, the Democrats' refusal to listen to them is one of the reasons for Trump being in power.

Frankfurt was the first university the Nazis tackled, precisely because it was the most self-confidently liberal of major German universities, with a faculty that prided itself on its allegiance to scholarship, freedom of conscience, and democracy. The Nazis knew that control of Frankfurt University would mean control of German academia. And so did everyone at the university.

Above all, Frankfurt had a science faculty distinguished both by its scholarship and by its liberal convictions; and outstanding among the Frankfurt scientists was a biochemist-physiologist of Nobel-Prize caliber and impeccable liberal credentials. When the appointment of a Nazi commissar was announced . . . and every teacher and graduate assistant at the university was summoned to a faculty meeting to hear this new master, everybody knew that a trial of strength was at hand. I had never before attended a faculty meeting, but I did attend this one.

The new Nazi commissar wasted no time on the amenities. He immediately announced that Jews would be forbidden to enter university premises and would be dismissed without salary on March 15; this was something that no one had thought possible despite the Nazis loud antisemitism. Then he launched into a tirade of abuse, filth, and four-letter words such as had been heard rarely even in the barracks and never before in academia. . . . [He] pointed his finger at one department chairman after another and said, You either do what I tell you or well put you into a concentration camp.

https://www.facinghistory.org/resource-library/controlling-universities

Amazing that people STILL don't understand why Pro-Palestinian groups are trying to negotiate with Democrats over Republicans, no wonder Trump's 3rd grader campaigning worked so well in this country.

Thanatos_the_Great posted...

No, the Democrats' refusal to listen to them is one of the reasons for Trump being in power.

No, their refusal to use their fucking brains for once is the reason for Trump being in power. They chose to keep their head in the sand these last several years, when it came to Trump. That's on them, not Democrats.

Zero_Destroyer posted...

There's been multiple rallies and protests against Trump from these guys within the last week alone.

Too bad they didn't protest him with their votes when it mattered.

Thanatos_the_Great posted...

And look how that turned out.

Yeah, you guys helped get Trump reelected. Congrats.

Rioushu posted...

Amazing that people STILL don't understand why Pro-Palestinian groups are trying to negotiate with Democrats over Republicans, no wonder Trump's 3rd grader campaigning worked so well in this country.

So they desperately want to negotiate with dems, but don't want to vote for them when it matters.

Rioushu posted...

Amazing that people STILL don't understand why Pro-Palestinian groups are trying to negotiate with Democrats over Republicans, no wonder Trump's 3rd grader campaigning worked so well in this country.

"Negotiate" is not the word I would choose

mybbqrules posted...

Yeah, you guys helped get Trump reelected.

You should get some rest, it must be exhausting keeping up that eternal struggle against reality.

Lol "demand".

Thanatos_the_Great posted...

You should get some rest, it must be exhausting keeping up that eternal struggle against reality.

Now that he's been put in his place by that witty zinger let's get back to reality and try to extort more concessions from Democrats so they can protect Palestine for us.

Thanatos_the_Great posted...

You should get some rest, it must be exhausting keeping up that eternal struggle against reality.

You tried to prove Harris lost Nevada because of Palestine with the first article you googled that speculated it could be a problem in March and then vanished from the topic when actual statistics on voting were shown.

You're not struggling against reality, you're carefully curating your own.

A_Good_Boy posted...

Now that he's been put in his place by that witty zinger let's get back to reality and try to extort more concessions from Democrats so they can protect Palestine for us.

They're not protesting or demanding dems. They've been protesting Trump the entire fucking time. They're being arrested but, the MSM will only tell you they're whining about dems. Keep up the BS narrative.

Dio posted...

They're not protesting or demanding dems. They've been protesting Trump the entire fucking time. They're being arrested but, the MSM will only tell you they're whining about dems. Keep up the BS narrative.

The protests have unmistakably dropped in volume and intensity and we keep seeing excuses to blame Biden for it.

At some point you'd think people might examine how badly this entire movement has failed and change tactics.

Dio posted...

They're not protesting or demanding dems. They've been protesting Trump the entire fucking time. They're being arrested but, the MSM will only tell you they're whining about dems. Keep up the BS narrative.

But did they do it when it counted? You know, before and on the day of Election Day? Oh that's right, they were too busy protesting Harris/Democrats. Now they think they are gonna try to win Trump over, by protesting against him NOW, when it's already shown that protesting will get them arrested, because racist president.

StarFighters76 posted...

But did they do it when it counted? You know, before and on the day of Election Day? Oh that's right, they were too busy protesting Harris/Democrats. Now they think they are gonna try to win Trump over, by protesting against him NOW, when it's already shown that protesting will get them arrested, because racist president.

After protesting a children's cancer ward didn't work you'd think they'd reexamine some tactics and think you actually have to convince someone somewhere along the line

LightSnake posted...

At some point you'd think people might examine how badly this entire movement has failed and change tactics.

When it comes to movements that have entirely failed and need to change tactics, I venture to suggest that the Democratic Party is a higher priority for examination. (To be fair, you do seem to have sort of acknowledged this (albeit belatedly) with your recent comments on Schumer and the Senate vote.)

LightSnake posted...

You tried to prove Harris lost Nevada because of Palestine with the first article you googled that speculated it could be a problem in March and then vanished from the topic when actual statistics on voting were shown.

You're not struggling against reality, you're carefully curating your own.

Let's also not forget that Thana isn't even an American and he's literally just playing sideline politics when it's convient for him since he doesn't have to suffer any of the immediate negative effects.

Thanatos_the_Great posted...

When it comes to movements that have entirely failed and need to change tactics, I venture to suggest that the Democratic Party is a higher priority for examination.

I'll take deflections for $1000 Alex...

Tmaster148 posted...

Let's also not forget that Thana isn't even an American and he's literally just playing sideline politics when it's convient for him since he doesn't have to suffer any of the immediate negative effects.

While I realise this is an unfamiliar concept to some Americans, it is in fact possible for people from one country to be aware of the existence of, and care about people in, another one.

Sorry, I've grown numb to their wishes. They're free to go petition the leader they wanted to win, instead of the one they didn't.

Thanatos_the_Great posted...

While I realise this is an unfamiliar concept to some Americans, it is in fact possible for people from one country to be aware of the existence of, and care about people in, another one.

That's why you spent the entire election cycle of the US complaining about the democrats aiding in the election of Trump. Because you are about other people in other countries.

Thanatos_the_Great posted...

When it comes to movements that have entirely failed and need to change tactics, I venture to suggest that the Democratic Party is a higher priority for examination. (To be fair, you do seem to have sort of acknowledged this (albeit belatedly) with your recent comments on Schumer and the Senate vote.)

This is a complete non-sequitur and unrelated to the topic at hand, and is a very transparent attempt to avoid an obvious point you do not have an answer for.

Thanatos_the_Great posted...

While I realise this is an unfamiliar concept to some Americans, it is in fact possible for people from one country to be aware of the existence of, and care about people in, another one.

This is a bit of a tell. You might be aware of and care about Americans, but nowhere in this post do you acknowledge any real knowledge or understanding of them.

ScazarMeltex posted...

They can vote for dems or they can have more of what the GOP is doing.

The Dems can stop being shit or they can have more of what the GOP is doing (events of the last few days show that they're continuing to choose the second option).