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WingsOfGood
03/25/25 6:02:04 PM
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Trump says it wasn't classified.

Should be no problem then right?

Right?

RIGHT????

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/5212821-atlantic-editor-suggests-hes-open-to-sharing-hegseths-full-war-plans-texts-publicly/

Jeffery Goldberg, the top editor of The Atlantic, said he could be open to sharing more details from a Signal group chat he was mistakenly added to by top U.S. officials that contained secret war plans.
I get the defensive reaction, Goldberg said Tuesday during an interview with The Bulwark. But my obligation, I feel, is to the idea that we take national security information seriously.

Goldberg published a bombshell report Monday outlining how he was added to a group chat on the encrypted messaging app that included top U.S. intelligence and military officials earlier this month relating to the U.S. governments plans to strike Houthi targets in Yemen.
Goldberg reported he saw in a message, sent to the group by Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, specific weapons systems, human targets and other top secret information before he left the chat. He did not publish the specific information as part of his report, citing national security concerns.
The White House has denied war plans were texted to the group, and Hegseth on Monday denied the reporting as well, calling Goldberg a deceitful and highly discredited, so-called journalist whos made a profession of peddling hoaxes time and time again.
Maybe in the coming days, Ill be able to say, OK, I have a plan to have this materiel vetted publicly,' Goldberg told The Bulwark on Tuesday. But Im not going to say that now.
During a hearing on Capitol Hill on Tuesday, Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard and CIA Director John Ratcliffe contended that the Signal chat in question did not include classified information.

Director John Ratcliffe contended that the Signal chat in question did not include classified information.

Director John Ratcliffe contended that the Signal chat in question did not include classified information.
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Tyranthraxus
03/25/25 6:03:55 PM
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WingsOfGood posted...
Trump says it wasn't classified.

Should be no problem then right?

Right?

RIGHT????

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MhkaCHemistry
03/25/25 6:04:56 PM
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I've never seen someone announce they'll be committing suicide by shooting themselves in the back of the head three times but there's a first time for everything I suppose.

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WingsOfGood
03/25/25 6:05:19 PM
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one of the members of the chat group was in Moscow at the time chatting on his personal phone.
Edit 1: Site seeing in Moscow guy: U.S. Special Envoy to the Middle East Steve Witkoff
Edit 2: It gets worse
Department of Defense Official "use of unclassified mobile device applications" explicitly prohibits DoD employees from using personal devices for DoD related work... like planning military strikes on March 15th
https://dodcio.defense.gov/Portals/0/Documents/Library/Memo-UseOfUnclassMobileApps.pdf
March 18th, 2025: The Pentagon issues a warning memorandum that both
Warns that the application Signal was compromised by the Russians
Permits Signal application usage moving forward for unclassified materials
https://www.npr.org/2025/03/25/nx-s1-5339801/pentagon-email-signal-vulnerability
March 25th, 2025: Trump admin declassifies the DoD Military strikes Signal planning on March 15th, and protects his henchmen who endanger our nations security every single day

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Euripides
03/25/25 6:05:49 PM
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Trump declassified them just by thinking about it

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KnightofShikari
03/25/25 6:07:42 PM
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schrodinger's declassification: if the editor releases it and it hurts trump, then it wasn't declassified and the editor is in trouble. but if it doesn't hurt trump then it was and it's no big deal

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DoesntMatter
03/25/25 6:09:19 PM
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MhkaCHemistry posted...
I've never seen someone announce they'll be committing suicide by shooting themselves in the back of the head three times but there's a first time for everything I suppose.
while jumping out of a window and drinking poison

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Agent_Stroud
03/25/25 6:10:32 PM
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JGlla4vGxkY&pp=ygUPZG8gaXQgcGFscGF0aW5l

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Kami_no_Kami
03/25/25 6:12:37 PM
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KnightofShikari posted...
schrodinger's declassification: if the editor releases it and it hurts trump, then it wasn't declassified and the editor is in trouble. but if it doesn't hurt trump then it was and it's no big deal
Thats the neat part. Nothing hurts Teflon Don.
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Lillymon
03/25/25 6:17:46 PM
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White House: "You didn't see shit!"
Goldberg: "Okay. How about I publish everything I saw then?"
White House: "Don't you fucking dare!"
Goldberg: "So I did see something then."
White House: "No!"
Goldberg: "Then I'll just publish it..."
White House: "Stop it! Shut up dammit!"

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WingsOfGood
03/25/25 6:19:16 PM
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Tulsi refused to give any details at all in the questioning

which is very odd for something that is not classified
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littlebro07
03/26/25 9:18:59 AM
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https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2025/03/signal-group-chat-attack-plans-hegseth-goldberg/682176/


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WingsOfGood
03/26/25 9:21:06 AM
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littlebro07 posted...
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2025/03/signal-group-chat-attack-plans-hegseth-goldberg/682176/

Paywall

Does he drop the whole thing?
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BunkerBoy
03/26/25 9:22:10 AM
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WingsOfGood posted...
Paywall

Does he drop the whole thing?
Bookmark this site, it's infinitely useful

https://www.removepaywall.com/search?url=https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2025/03/signal-group-chat-attack-plans-hegseth-goldberg/682176/
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WingsOfGood
03/26/25 9:26:33 AM
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Found MSN copy the whole article lol

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/news/here-are-the-
attack-plans-that-trump-s-
advisers-shared-on-signal/ar-AA1BH7VQ

At 11:44 a.m. eastern time, Hegseth posted in the chat, in all caps, TEAM UPDATE:
The text beneath this began, TIME NOW (1144et): Weather is FAVORABLE. Just CONFIRMED w/CENTCOM we are a GO for mission launch. Centcom, or Central Command, is the militarys combatant command for the Middle East. The Hegseth text continues:

1215et: F-18s LAUNCH (1st strike package)
1345: Trigger Based F-18 1st Strike Window Starts (Target Terrorist is @ his Known Location so SHOULD BE ON TIME also, Strike Drones Launch (MQ-9s)
The Hegseth text then continued:
1410: More F-18s LAUNCH (2nd strike package)
1415: Strike Drones on Target (THIS IS WHEN THE FIRST BOMBS WILL DEFINITELY DROP, pending earlier Trigger Based targets)
1536 F-18 2nd Strike Starts also, first sea-based Tomahawks launched.
MORE TO FOLLOW (per timeline)
We are currently clean on OPSECthat is, operational security.
Godspeed to our Warriors.

Shortly after, Vice President J. D. Vance texted the group, I will say a prayer for victory.

At 1:48 p.m., Waltz sent the following text, containing real-time intelligence about conditions at an attack site, apparently in Sanaa: VP. Building collapsed. Had multiple positive ID. Pete, Kurilla, the IC, amazing job. Waltz was referring here to Hegseth; General Michael E. Kurilla, the commander of Central Command; and the intelligence community, or IC. The reference to multiple positive ID suggests that U.S. intelligence had ascertained the identities of the Houthi target, or targets, using either human or technical assets.

Six minutes later, the vice president, apparently confused by Waltzs message, wrote, What?

At 2 p.m., Waltz responded: Typing too fast. The first target their top missile guy we had positive ID of him walking into his girlfriends building and its now collapsed.
Vance responded a minute later: Excellent. Thirty-five minutes after that, Ratcliffe, the CIA director, wrote, A good start, which Waltz followed with a text containing a fist emoji, an American-flag emoji, and a fire emoji. The Houthi-run Yemeni health ministry reported that at least 53 people were killed in the strikes, a number that has not been independently verified.

Later that afternoon, Hegseth posted: CENTCOM was/is on point. Notably, he then told the group that attacks would be continuing. Great job all. More strikes ongoing for hours tonight, and will provide full initial report tomorrow. But on time, on target, and good readouts so far.

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OmegaShinkai
03/26/25 9:27:44 AM
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WingsOfGood posted...
We are currently clean on OPSEC
lol
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lilORANG
03/26/25 9:28:08 AM
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What a bunch of nerds lol

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littlebro07
03/26/25 9:28:51 AM
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WingsOfGood posted...
We are currently clean on OPSECthat is, operational security.

fucking lol

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WingsOfGood
03/26/25 9:29:14 AM
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He gave all the screenshots

Convo is even longer
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KaZooo
03/26/25 9:31:13 AM
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What if this was intentional

"Let's look like we made a shitty accident, and show the world we're not going to backpedal. POWERRRRR"

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NeonPhoenix
03/26/25 9:32:02 AM
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MhkaCHemistry posted...
I've never seen someone announce they'll be committing suicide by shooting themselves in the back of the head three times but there's a first time for everything I suppose.
This. Dude is gonna get dusted if he shares those plans. I hope he knows that >_>

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Cynyn
03/26/25 9:34:29 AM
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LOOOOOOOOL! Lmao even!

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BunkerBoy
03/26/25 9:35:29 AM
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This is a solid point and needs to be pushed hard https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/1/1c7a5fa7.jpg

This could have turned out VERY badly
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WingsOfGood
03/26/25 9:38:25 AM
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Were_Wyrm
03/26/25 9:38:50 AM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

For some reason a low-level dev at signal will end up in El Salvador, but that is all the consequences anyone will see.

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Heineken14
03/26/25 9:39:06 AM
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KaZooo posted...
What if this was intentional

"Let's look like we made a shitty accident, and show the world we're not going to backpedal. POWERRRRR"

The far more logical conclusion is that they are incompetent dipshits partly because of their own stupidity and partly due to knowing they are untouchable.

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WingsOfGood
03/26/25 9:40:06 AM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/6/62ac382f.jpg

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/8/86519659.jpg
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/c/cda8f56f.jpg
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WingsOfGood
03/26/25 9:40:52 AM
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Cynyn
03/26/25 9:41:04 AM
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And to think when I was deployed in 7th fleet this 3rd class (E4 for non navy types) got our liberty port cancelled and sent up to captains mast because he posted on facebook 4 days ahead of time where we were pulling in. Also we all had to redo OPSEC and cyber awareness training to be sure no one would try that again. Meanwhile Whiskey Pete and his chuckle fuck cohorts pull this and are acting like its just a silly little non issue. My god man.

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Cory898
03/26/25 9:41:55 AM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

I wouldnt be surprised if a single fall guy got fired as a PR move.

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Heineken14
03/26/25 9:43:38 AM
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WingsOfGood posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/5/5b6c5109.jpg

Funny enough, that almost makes JD look somewhat measured and competent.

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TheSuperSilver
03/26/25 9:44:34 AM
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This editor had his receipts.

Under normal circumstances every member on that group chat would resign and be subsequently prosecuted. Won't happen of course because America is not a place of laws - at the very least the laws only apply to a certain subset of people.

I'm a healthcare professional. If I set up a group chat and started talking about patient information in non-secure channels or unapproved ways I would be FIRED.

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Heineken14
03/26/25 9:46:13 AM
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Weirdly enough, by him releasing all this I feel like it's even less likely anyone faces any consequences. It's a circular logic of "see, it's out in public now so it's not classified and no big deal!"

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NeonPhoenix
03/26/25 9:46:24 AM
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BunkerBoy posted...
This is a solid point and needs to be pushed hard https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/1/1c7a5fa7.jpg

This could have turned out VERY badly
Right? This thing is such a facepalm situation. I've never seen this level of incompetency before lol

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lilORANG
03/26/25 9:49:32 AM
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BunkerBoy posted...
This is a solid point and needs to be pushed hard https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/1/1c7a5fa7.jpg

This could have turned out VERY badly
Yes, this is why sharing classified info is bad

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Starks
03/26/25 9:50:06 AM
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Heineken14 posted...
Funny enough, that almost makes JD look somewhat measured and competent.
He plays a character. If he comes across as being as mental and non-functional as Trump at times, it's intentional.

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Lobinde
03/26/25 9:51:13 AM
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I hope this atlantic journalist has a flight to get outside of the US ready asap, otherwise he's gonna be disappeared into the gitmo or el salvador gulags.

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Heineken14
03/26/25 9:54:50 AM
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Lobinde posted...
I hope this atlantic journalist has a flight to get outside of the US ready asap, otherwise he's gonna be disappeared into the gitmo or el salvador gulags.

Have you seen what's been happening with planes recently?

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jefffan
03/26/25 9:58:01 AM
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Heineken14 posted...
Weirdly enough, by him releasing all this I feel like it's even less likely anyone faces any consequences. It's a circular logic of "see, it's out in public now so it's not classified and no big deal!"
Yeap. Any significant release of PHI would be a curtain call and the police will probably be brought in too depending on how severe it is.

They think we're stupid.

Edit: meant to quote post 34. But point still stands

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TheOnionKnight
03/26/25 11:31:12 AM
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"I share your loathing of European free-loading."

Okay, so even in private, this is what these idiots really think. They want an American empire, but they don't understand that European dependence on the US was something that the US intentionally cultivated to achieve and maintain its current global power. Trump and his sycophants truly are clueless.

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2001mark
03/26/25 11:32:29 AM
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Forty Creek whiskey from Niagara, Ontario pairs nicely with #WhiskeyGate
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Hejiru
03/26/25 11:35:10 AM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/5/5fc22248.jpg

Fucking lol

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CARRRNE_ASADA
03/26/25 11:44:54 AM
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TheSuperSilver posted...
This editor had his receipts.

Under normal circumstances every member on that group chat would resign and be subsequently prosecuted. Won't happen of course because America is not a place of laws - at the very least the laws only apply to a certain subset of people.

I'm a healthcare professional. If I set up a group chat and started talking about patient information in non-secure channels or unapproved ways I would be FIRED.


Right? They want everything privatized, but cant hold themselves to the same standards of the private sector....which they wouldnt even be a part of over lacking qualifications.


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CE_gonna_CE
03/26/25 11:49:19 AM
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KnightofShikari posted...
schrodinger's declassification: if the editor releases it and it hurts trump, then it wasn't declassified and the editor is in trouble. but if it doesn't hurt trump then it was and it's no big deal
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/3/327b6981.jpg

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BewmHedshot
03/26/25 11:58:13 AM
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Good to see the F-18 getting some hot zone time, always loved that bird.
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BakonBitz
03/26/25 11:58:19 AM
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The damage control I'm seeing from the administration over this is amusing. So many contradictory statements.

"It's fake" to "okay yes it's real but there wasn't a mistake (does that mean letting an unknown number into the group was intentional?), to "everything was declassified." Can't wait to see what else they come up with next. If they call for punishment on the editor releasing all these screens then it must not have been declassified, huh?

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TomClark
03/26/25 12:03:02 PM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/3/3cb14871.jpg

Haha, unfuckingbelievable.

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littlebro07
03/26/25 12:04:59 PM
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BakonBitz posted...
The damage control I'm seeing from the administration over this is amusing. So many contradictory statements.

"It's fake" to "okay yes it's real but there wasn't a mistake (does that mean letting an unknown number into the group was intentional?), to "everything was declassified." Can't wait to see what else they come up with next. If they call for punishment on the editor releasing all these screens then it must not have been declassified, huh?

I like how Hegseth was being interviewed the other day saying how this journalist is basically sucks and is a hack and shouldn't be believed

If that's the case then why the fuck did you have his number to be invited lol

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