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name_unknown
05/22/25 11:28:08 AM
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https://www.axios.com/2025/05/22/penny-coins-end-production-2026

The Trump administration plans to end production of the penny after the cost of making it ballooned and it became increasingly useless as currency.
Why it matters: The U.S. Mint reported losing $85.3 million on the nearly 3.2 billion pennies it produced in the 2024 fiscal year that ended in September.
Driving the news: The Treasury Department said the Mint will stop making pennies after it runs out of the blank templates used to make the one-cent coins, noting the final order of blanks was placed this month.
  • The move will save the government $56 million a year in reduced material costs, according to the government.
  • "Given the cost savings to the taxpayer, this is just another example of our administration cutting waste for the American taxpayer and making the government more efficient for the American people," a Treasury spokesperson told Axios in a statement.
Catch up quick: President Trump said in February that he had instructed Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent to "stop producing new pennies."
  • "For far too long the United States has minted pennies which literally cost us more than 2 cents," Trump wrote in a Truth Social post. "This is so wasteful!"
  • "Let's rip the waste out of our great nations budget, even if it's a penny at a time," Trump said.
Zoom in: The U.S. Mint's annual report cites the cost of making a penny was 3.7 cents in Fiscal Year 2024.

  • The cost of the coin has "remained above face value for the 19th consecutive fiscal year."
  • The unit cost for nickels was 13.78 cents, the report said.
What's next: The coin can still be used to pay for things.
  • But Treasury told WSJ that when there's not enough pennies to use in everyday cash transactions, businesses will need to start rounding up or down to the nearest 5 cents.


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UnholyMudcrab
05/22/25 11:29:19 AM
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I don't believe for a second that Trump supports this for any reason except that he hates Lincoln.

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argonautweakend
05/22/25 11:30:57 AM
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As a coin collector this sucks. But I can't say we should keep the penny around just for us numismatists. I'll be curious to see what happens to the collectors market and if there are things to look for as a result of this. This is going to be a massive blow to coin collectors because pennies are the prime coin for finding rare shit.

Again I can't argue we need to keep it around but I will be sad one of my hobbies got diminished.
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DoesntMatter
05/22/25 11:31:32 AM
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oh great, he's gonna save us taxpayers $56 million? wonderful! great job Trump! but what the fuck about the BILLIONS of dollars of our tax money that is going to all of the services and programs that you are cutting and absconding with the funding? $56 million up against several BILLION? fuck you.

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foxhound101
05/22/25 11:32:59 AM
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Good.

This will be the one good thing he does out of the many horrible things. But it's still a good thing.

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googs19
05/22/25 11:35:35 AM
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name_unknown posted...
businesses will need to start rounding up or down to the nearest 5 cents.

I think you know how they are going to round. And clearly they will need to do it for all transactions, not just cash transactions.
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argonautweakend
05/22/25 11:38:06 AM
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In Canada if you pay by card, the price is as advertised. So if an item comes out to 11.31 with tax, cards pay 11.31, cash rounds down if the change ends lower than 5, so cash would be 11.30. Throughout a lifetime this probably evens out enough to not be bothered by it.
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Enclave
05/22/25 11:38:11 AM
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If they handle the rounding like other countries that have done this? It all evens out in the end. If they only ever round up? Then that's 'Merica for you.

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PeteyParker
05/22/25 11:40:00 AM
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Enclave posted...
If they handle the rounding like other countries that have done this? It all evens out in the end. If they only ever round up? Then that's 'Merica for you.

Of course everyone will round up. Something that is $1.01 will now be $2.00. There's profit to be had.

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masterpug53
05/22/25 11:42:10 AM
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DoesntMatter posted...
oh great, he's gonna save us taxpayers $56 million? wonderful! great job Trump! but what the fuck about the BILLIONS of dollars of our tax money that is going to all of the services and programs that you are cutting and absconding with the funding? $56 million up against several BILLION? fuck you.

"DOGE: spending billions to save you MILLIONS since 2025."

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Thermador446
05/22/25 11:44:35 AM
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Just announced: Trump 2 cent gold coin

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McMarbles
05/22/25 11:45:03 AM
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Batman upgrading to a giant nickel

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argonautweakend
05/22/25 11:46:46 AM
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I'd be more willing to accept the removal of the penny if this administration was serious about lowering spending and cutting waste. But they aren't, so this is more of a drop in the bucket bread and circuses shit. Though people have been legitimately asking for this so it isn't as insidious as usual.
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masterpug53
05/22/25 11:49:41 AM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/3/3666035b.jpg

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misterbum
05/22/25 11:53:27 AM
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Glob
05/22/25 11:55:47 AM
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googs19 posted...
I think you know how they are going to round. And clearly they will need to do it for all transactions, not just cash transactions.

We use rounding correctly for cash transactions here. Its no bother.
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Robot2600
05/22/25 12:11:01 PM
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we should keep the penny, it's fucking dumb to cancel a 60 million dollar program when that's not that much.

so what if it costs 2 cents, it'll be used several times.

so stupid how everyone is on board with this. you're kidding yourself if you think this is not YET ANOTHER way for them to fuck the regular person. it's going to cost the average lower-middle class person about 200 bucks a year in ROUNDED UP costs.

EVEN IF we are wasting money on pennies, it's something that is wasted on REGULAR people. Billionaires don't know what a penny looks like of course they wouldn't give a shit.

idk why everyone hates the fucking penny so much. that's the fucking problem, a goddamn coin. we fucking did it, problem solved.

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bluezero
05/22/25 12:12:42 PM
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argonautweakend posted...
In Canada if you pay by card, the price is as advertised. So if an item comes out to 11.31 with tax, cards pay 11.31, cash rounds down if the change ends lower than 5, so cash would be 11.30. Throughout a lifetime this probably evens out enough to not be bothered by it.
Canada already got rid of their penny?

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Glob
05/22/25 12:15:22 PM
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Robot2600 posted...
we should keep the penny, it's fucking dumb to cancel a 60 million dollar program when that's not that much.

so what if it costs 2 cents, it'll be used several times.

so stupid how everyone is on board with this. you're kidding yourself if you think this is not YET ANOTHER way for them to fuck the regular person. it's going to cost the average lower-middle class person about 200 bucks a year in ROUNDED UP costs.

EVEN IF we are wasting money on pennies, it's something that is wasted on REGULAR people. Billionaires don't know what a penny looks like of course they wouldn't give a shit.

idk why everyone hates the fucking penny so much. that's the fucking problem, a goddamn coin. we fucking did it, problem solved.

Why does everything have to be rounded up?

Things are rounded down when they should be here. Why would it be any different there?
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Stagmar
05/22/25 12:15:32 PM
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bluezero posted...
Canada already got rid of their penny?
Yes. 12 years ago.
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HashtagSEP
05/22/25 12:16:22 PM
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Glob posted...
Why does everything have to be rounded up?

Things are rounded down when they should be here. Why would it be any different there?

Do you know literally nothing about the US

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TMOG
05/22/25 12:17:56 PM
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I'd say this was Broken Clock Syndrome if we weren't already moving further and further into a cashless society anyway. Now it just feels like a "too little, too late" empty gesture that's going to have businesses round everything up.
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Robot2600
05/22/25 12:22:27 PM
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Lemme break it down like this:

The effect on the average individual will be much more than the savings will effect the government. How much more? It's fucking terrible. This will funnel literally billions into corporate pockets every year and I will show you why, it's not complicated.

First, all prices will be rounded up, obviously, that's the entire point.

Let's use conservative numbers and say that this results in only costing you $100 bucks a year. I think it will be more like $200 for most of us, but whatever let's do 100.

That's 330,000,000,000 billion shuffled into corporate pockets every year.

So whereas before you, personally, YOU paid 5.5 cents last year to keep the penny program running, next year you will be out AT LEAST some amounts of money.

Like, do you guys fucking get it? It's not good AT FUCKING ALL.

It's cheaper to keep the penny program. It's intuitive but it's obvious when you think about it.

Even if you think I am wrong by a POWER OF 1000 and it will only cost you maybe 10 cents over the course of the year, right now you are only paying 5.5 cents a year to run the program.

What in the fuck is wrong with everybody.

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DarkAssassin89
05/22/25 12:31:08 PM
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Canada did this years ago and it was great. The penny was such a pain in the ass.

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Kain_Highwind
05/22/25 12:31:59 PM
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Robot2600 posted...
Lemme break it down like this:

The effect on the average individual will be much more than the savings will effect the government. How much more? It's fucking terrible. This will funnel literally billions into corporate pockets every year and I will show you why, it's not complicated.

First, all prices will be rounded up, obviously, that's the entire point.

Let's use conservative numbers and say that this results in only costing you $100 bucks a year. I think it will be more like $200 for most of us, but whatever let's do 100.

That's 330,000,000,000 billion shuffled into corporate pockets every year.

So whereas before you, personally, YOU paid 5.5 cents last year to keep the penny program running, next year you will be out AT LEAST some amounts of money.

Like, do you guys fucking get it? It's not good AT FUCKING ALL.

It's cheaper to keep the penny program. It's intuitive but it's obvious when you think about it.

Even if you think I am wrong by a POWER OF 1000 and it will only cost you maybe 10 cents over the course of the year, right now you are only paying 5.5 cents a year to run the program.

What in the fuck is wrong with everybody.
fuck pennies

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HashtagSEP
05/22/25 12:33:37 PM
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Robot2600 posted...
Even if you think I am wrong by a POWER OF 1000 and it will only cost you maybe 10 cents over the course of the year, right now you are only paying 5.5 cents a year to run the program.

What in the fuck is wrong with everybody.

To be fair, if that was the scenario I'd happily pay 10 cents a year to get rid of the penny.

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boomgetchopped3
05/22/25 12:34:35 PM
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darkknight109
05/22/25 12:49:45 PM
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Fun fact: you don't have to "round" at all when you get rid of the penny. Here in Canada, we ditched the penny years ago and if you're paying cashless (i.e. 99% of all transactions these days), prices are unchanged. It's only if you're paying cash that rounding happens.

Also, this topic is nostalgic for me, because when the Canadian government decided to get rid of the penny there was the exact same angst about how awful it was going to be for consumers and... yeah, it turned out to be absolutely fine. Nobody here misses them.

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Robot2600
05/22/25 12:53:10 PM
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to think that everyone has a bank account and a debit card just isn't true at all

plenty of people only use cash. yes these people are poor.

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Bass
05/22/25 1:08:24 PM
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darkknight109 posted...
Fun fact: you don't have to "round" at all when you get rid of the penny. Here in Canada, we ditched the penny years ago and if you're paying cashless (i.e. 99% of all transactions these days), prices are unchanged. It's only if you're paying cash that rounding happens.

Also, this topic is nostalgic for me, because when the Canadian government decided to get rid of the penny there was the exact same angst about how awful it was going to be for consumers and... yeah, it turned out to be absolutely fine. Nobody here misses them.
Ah, but your government doesn't take every opportunity it can to screw the little guy like America does.

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Mearcstapa
05/22/25 1:10:45 PM
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Surely they'll at least mint a nominal amount for inclusion in mint sets for collectors and such, right?

That's what they've been doing with half-dollars for decades now.

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PeteyParker
05/22/25 1:13:26 PM
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darkknight109 posted...
Fun fact: you don't have to "round" at all when you get rid of the penny. Here in Canada, we ditched the penny years ago and if you're paying cashless (i.e. 99% of all transactions these days), prices are unchanged. It's only if you're paying cash that rounding happens.

Also, this topic is nostalgic for me, because when the Canadian government decided to get rid of the penny there was the exact same angst about how awful it was going to be for consumers and... yeah, it turned out to be absolutely fine. Nobody here misses them.

You forget this is the USA. Not only will they round up every price but they will also round up the price for people paying cashless under the guise of "being fair" (of course that's also in addition to the surcharge that many places are already charging to pay via card because transaction fees are insane)

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Hayame_Zero
05/22/25 1:19:47 PM
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RIP Penny, your theme was GOATed

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Starks
05/22/25 1:23:56 PM
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Being underbanked really shouldn't be a thing anymore. No reason not to have a debit card. No reason to not be using direct deposit.

There are free checking and money market accounts with no minimums. Maybe at worst you're paying five bucks a month to keep it open.

Cash is no longer king. It's a hindrance and a tax on yourself. Beyond whatever is in your wallet, people should be putting their money to work. You can earn interest and keep your funds liquid at the same time.

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A_Good_Boy
05/22/25 1:38:19 PM
#36:


name_unknown posted...
The U.S. Mint reported losing $85.3 million on the nearly 3.2 billion pennies it produced in the 2024 fiscal year that ended in September.
How much have we spent on Trump going golfing? It's hard to get excited by any savings they could find in the government knowing those costs are being offset by Trump's own shitty habits.

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tankboy
05/22/25 1:38:47 PM
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Isn't the amount of pennies (and any coin or bill) made based on the demand? It's not like we're minting zillions of pennies that are pointlessly filling warehouses. They are actually going into circulation. So it seems like that's proof that they are needed.
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CARRRNE_ASADA
05/22/25 1:43:45 PM
#38:


foxhound101 posted...
Good.

This will be the one good thing he does out of the many horrible things. But it's still a good thing.


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rick_alverado
05/22/25 3:13:30 PM
#39:


PeteyParker posted...
Of course everyone will round up. Something that is $1.01 will now be $2.00. There's profit to be had.

They are just getting rid of the penny, not other coins. Even if they are only rounding up, that would be $1.05, not $2.00.
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Mearcstapa
05/22/25 3:17:08 PM
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They should get rid of the nickel too

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hyperskate65
05/22/25 3:19:15 PM
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You would not believe the amount of people that came into my financial institution looking for rolls of pennies the first time this was mentioned a few months back. We had to actively tell people no, you can't have $25 in pennies. One dude swore up and down it was going to pay for his kids' college. Made me so sad to see people so stupid.

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CountCorvinus
05/22/25 3:19:23 PM
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PeteyParker posted...
Of course everyone will round up. Something that is $1.01 will now be $2.00. There's profit to be had.

Incorrect.

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Tyranthraxus
05/22/25 3:25:47 PM
#43:


argonautweakend posted...
As a coin collector this sucks. But I can't say we should keep the penny around just for us numismatists. I'll be curious to see what happens to the collectors market and if there are things to look for as a result of this. This is going to be a massive blow to coin collectors because pennies are the prime coin for finding rare shit.

Again I can't argue we need to keep it around but I will be sad one of my hobbies got diminished.

This isn't the first time we've discontinued a coin though.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-cent_piece_(United_States)#

Part of the hobby is collecting things especially when they aren't being made anymore.

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masterpug53
05/22/25 3:32:35 PM
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Mearcstapa posted...
They should get rid of the nickel too

Please refer to post #14 for a necessary PSA.

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PeteyParker
05/22/25 3:33:36 PM
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rick_alverado posted...
They are just getting rid of the penny, not other coins. Even if they are only rounding up, that would be $1.05, not $2.00.

Sorry, I thought it was obvious I was exaggerating because I also said "there's profit to be had" but apparently not.

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LonelyStoner
05/22/25 3:34:49 PM
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A loss of $85 million is a drop in the bucket to the government.

Guarantee those saved millions arent going back to the people.

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Crimson_Corsair
05/22/25 3:35:51 PM
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Big if true.

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Enclave
05/22/25 3:43:16 PM
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Robot2600 posted...
First, all prices will be rounded up, obviously, that's the entire point.

In Canada for example? It gets rounded to the nearest 5 cents. So if the price ends in 1 or 2 cents it rounds down, if it ends in 3 or 4 cents it rounds up.

Mathematically it basically evens out over time and thus is fine, just the elimination of a pretty useless coin.

Now, if there's no rules regarding how things get rounded and corporations just round up all the time? That's where it can become a problem but it's a problem other countries have already solved. Eliminating the penny isn't inherently a bad thing, in fact it's more good than bad.

That said, I don't particularly trust Republicans and especially Trump to make it so companies have to actually round off the price in an equitable manner.

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sfcalimari
05/22/25 3:56:13 PM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/1/127a063f.jpg

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RIPVyseCity
05/22/25 4:47:59 PM
#50:


So Canada got rid of their pennies. No wonder I didn't randomly get one in my change for years
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