Current Events > Election lawsuit alleging fraud, after Kamala receives 0 votes in Dem district

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posting this again because people either didnt see it or ignored it

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2025/feb/26/social-media/why-did-kamala-harris-get-zero-votes-in-this-ny-pr/

I dont think is automatically the smoking gun some of yall want it to be

Shrugs the pandemic already disillusioned me with how evil, dumb and awful America is, so I don't really subscribe to the whole rigging process.

I was pretty shocked though when I woke up that morning and my boss was like trump is winning by a landslide and I checked my phone and the entire map was red save for california and new york. I was like wtf the months preceding had this whole "Hope 2.0" vibe with Kamala winning and America course-correcting again and picking up where we left off in 2015.

But nope. None of that happened. This current timeline happened.

saspa posted...

Shrugs the pandemic

These new Sonic characters are fuckin' weird.

ssb_yunglink2 posted...

posting this again because people either didnt see it or ignored it

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2025/feb/26/social-media/why-did-kamala-harris-get-zero-votes-in-this-ny-pr/

I dont think is automatically the smoking gun some of yall want it to be

Couldn't they ask people in that section if any voted for kamala amd get an answer is there votes didnt count?

I mean, go off and investigate whatever you want. Its not like it wasn't a literal investigation that the GOP was so desperate to find some evidence of wrongdoing in 2020 they were looking for like, bamboo residue to indicate Chinese interference.

I'm still of the opinion that if Trump did steal the election - we'd have heard about it by now because there's zero chance Trump or any of the idiots in his administration would be able to keep their mouth shut about it. Trump's last administration leaked like a sieve, and that one was a billion times more competent than this one.

ssb_yunglink2 posted...

posting this again because people either didnt see it or ignored it

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2025/feb/26/social-media/why-did-kamala-harris-get-zero-votes-in-this-ny-pr/

I dont think is automatically the smoking gun some of yall want it to be

That points to a deeper problem -- these religious leaders having that level of influence over other people.

Nobody should have that kind of influence over another, and it's pitiful that people outsource their thinking to others like this.

FLAMING_EVIL_HOMER posted...

Couldn't they ask people in that section if any voted for kamala amd get an answer is there votes didnt count?

I mean they could, but as the article states, similar results were seen in 2020 and in midterms. So either republicans have been secretly stealing these districts in these specific races for years, or fraud is not the explanation.

ssb_yunglink2 posted...

posting this again because people either didnt see it or ignored it

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2025/feb/26/social-media/why-did-kamala-harris-get-zero-votes-in-this-ny-pr/

I dont think is automatically the smoking gun some of yall want it to be

it is more nuanced than that lmfao

Nine voters in District 39 swore in affidavits that they had voted for independent U.S. Senate candidate Diane Sare. The Rockland County Board of Elections recorded only five such votes. In District 62, five voters reported casting ballots for Sare, but only three were counted.

they literally have evidence that things do not add up correctly.

EPR-radar posted...

That points to a deeper problem -- these religious leaders having that level of influence over other people.

Nobody should have that kind of influence over another, and it's pitiful that people outsource their thinking to others like this.

Yeah Im not gonna argue with that at all, but its a very different problem than hacked voting machines

ConfusedTorchic posted...

it is more nuanced than that lmfao

they literally have evidence that things do not add up correctly.

Im all for a recount if there are inconsistencies. But I do not like the immediate leap to Stolen Election because of very small inconsistencies like this, in a blue state district where results like this arent uncommon.

People do commit voter fraud in every election, its just never enough to matter.

Proto_Spark posted...

I'm still of the opinion that if Trump did steal the election - we'd have heard about it by now because there's zero chance Trump or any of the idiots in his administration would be able to keep their mouth shut about it.

Trump himself is constantly talking about Elon hacking voting machines for him. Musk can keep his mouth shut, but his benefactor is completely incapable of it.

ssb_yunglink2 posted...

Im all for a recount if there are inconsistencies. But I do not like the immediate leap to Stolen Election because of very small inconsistencies like this, in a blue state district where results like this arent uncommon.

People do commit voter fraud in every election, its just never enough to matter.

and that's why discovery was granted, to figure it out.

ssb_yunglink2 posted...

Im all for a recount if there are inconsistencies. But I do not like the immediate leap to Stolen Election because of very small inconsistencies like this, in a blue state district where results like this arent uncommon.

People do commit voter fraud in every election, its just never enough to matter.

That's the point, you investigate and if there's cause you further investigate. I figure most of us were pretty clear about that.

Enclave posted...

That's the point, you investigate and if there's cause you further investigate. I figure most of us were pretty clear about that.

I mean post 7 is just saying its an obviously rigged election.

I dont like that rhetoric. If they find nothing, absolute statements like this just look bad.

But yes, most people in this topic have kept an air of hesitance, which is good to see.

The #1 rule is that it's always projection. Trump spent years whining about a stolen election and then miraculously "won"

Of course they fucked with something

ssb_yunglink2 posted...

I mean post 7 is just saying its an obviously rigged election.

I dont like that rhetoric. If they find nothing, absolute statements like this just look bad.

This. Republicans are the ones that are disconnected from reality, not us.

Of course Republicans would steal elections by changing vote counts if they could, but evidence is needed before alleging they have actually done so. And no, Mike Lindell-level "evidence" doesn't count.

if she got 0 votes and one person testifies they voted for her in that district

well

Trump literally tried to change the Georgia elections results, we have dat on da record, its not too far-fetched to think dey cheated tbh

I distinctly remember both Trump and Elon saying in the months leading up to the election that they had something in the bag for the votes, but I didn't save it and there's no way I'll find it given the utter deluge of BS that's happened since then.

Whether the election was stolen or not, I do think SOME amount of vote fuckery happened. I think it's weird how insistent people are that it's not worth even looking into, especially when one of the first things Trump did when he got back in was remove the people that would've looked into it.

LightHawKnight posted...

At this point, does it matter if it is rigged? There is no way in hell Trump is ever going to step down.

It would restore a little hope in humanity.

havean776 posted...

It would restore a little hope in humanity.

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I'm still surprised Biden/Hareis didn't push for a recount considering several people have mentioned abnormalities. Anyway, I guess we will find out now...

KajeI posted...

I distinctly remember both Trump and Elon saying in the months leading up to the election that they had something in the bag for the votes, but I didn't save it and there's no way I'll find it given the utter deluge of BS that's happened since then.

There are a lot of little things like that which, individually, are kind of weird, but all at once, people should be way more suspicious about it than they are.

There was Trump talking at I think one of his last rallies before the election about how he and Mike Johnson had a "little secret" that made him absolutely confident he was gonna win. Then the one I think we all know, where Trump said something to the effect of "Elon really knows those voting machines", and whatever the heck *that* was supposed to mean. I also remember my cousin showing me a clip in January with Trump speaking at some rally, telling a story about how, "I won't be at the Olympics, I won't be president, but then they rigged it so now I'll be there". Like, literally said the phrase "they rigged it", not specific as to *who* rigged *what* but we can draw our own conclusions.

That's why I'm bothered by the people talking about, "You really think he wouldn't have said anything?" Wtf do you mean? He *is* saying things. His handlers probably panic on the regular because he keeps almost full-on spilling the beans. And not just him, either. During that little almost breakup he and Elon had, Elon posted a *very* suggestive tweet about how close it was and how Trump won thanks to him. You gotta wonder, what *exactly* did Elon do to help Trump win?

Of course, this is not evidence. But one thing certain posters don't seem to grasp is that the evidence (or lack thereof) is the *result* of an investigation, not the *prerequisite* to one. The only thing you need to justify an investigation is reasonable suspicion that there's something to investigate, and we had that in spades *without* Trump struggling not to confess on national TV.

Charged151 posted...

I'm still surprised Biden/Hareis didn't push for a recount considering several people have mentioned abnormalities. Anyway, I guess we will find out now...

I would imagine because they didn't want to sink to Trump's level, which I get that.

SydnieStarlight posted...

There are a lot of little things like that which, individually, are kind of weird, but all at once, people should be way more suspicious about it than they are.

There was Trump talking at I think one of his last rallies before the election about how he and Mike Johnson had a "little secret" that made him absolutely confident he was gonna win. Then the one I think we all know, where Trump said something to the effect of "Elon really knows those voting machines", and whatever the heck *that* was supposed to mean. I also remember my cousin showing me a clip in January with Trump speaking at some rally, telling a story about how, "I won't be at the Olympics, I won't be president, but then they rigged it so now I'll be there". Like, literally said the phrase "they rigged it", not specific as to *who* rigged *what* but we can draw our own conclusions.

That's why I'm bothered by the people talking about, "You really think he wouldn't have said anything?" Wtf do you mean? He *is* saying things. His handlers probably panic on the regular because he keeps almost full-on spilling the beans. And not just him, either. During that little almost breakup he and Elon had, Elon posted a *very* suggestive tweet about how close it was and how Trump won thanks to him. You gotta wonder, what *exactly* did Elon do to help Trump win?

Of course, this is not evidence. But one thing certain posters don't seem to grasp is that the evidence (or lack thereof) is the *result* of an investigation, not the *prerequisite* to one. The only thing you need to justify an investigation is reasonable suspicion that there's something to investigate, and we had that in spades *without* Trump struggling not to confess on national TV.

Yeah, most of that sounds right with the bits I remember.

Smiffwilm posted...

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I would feel far better knowing America did not choose Trump.

SydnieStarlight posted...

There are a lot of little things like that which, individually, are kind of weird, but all at once, people should be way more suspicious about it than they are.

There was Trump talking at I think one of his last rallies before the election about how he and Mike Johnson had a "little secret" that made him absolutely confident he was gonna win. Then the one I think we all know, where Trump said something to the effect of "Elon really knows those voting machines", and whatever the heck *that* was supposed to mean. I also remember my cousin showing me a clip in January with Trump speaking at some rally, telling a story about how, "I won't be at the Olympics, I won't be president, but then they rigged it so now I'll be there". Like, literally said the phrase "they rigged it", not specific as to *who* rigged *what* but we can draw our own conclusions.

That's why I'm bothered by the people talking about, "You really think he wouldn't have said anything?" Wtf do you mean? He *is* saying things. His handlers probably panic on the regular because he keeps almost full-on spilling the beans. And not just him, either. During that little almost breakup he and Elon had, Elon posted a *very* suggestive tweet about how close it was and how Trump won thanks to him. You gotta wonder, what *exactly* did Elon do to help Trump win?

Of course, this is not evidence. But one thing certain posters don't seem to grasp is that the evidence (or lack thereof) is the *result* of an investigation, not the *prerequisite* to one. The only thing you need to justify an investigation is reasonable suspicion that there's something to investigate, and we had that in spades *without* Trump struggling not to confess on national TV.

I've been saying shit like this for months.

EPR-radar posted...

The truth still matters. All really is lost if truth is abandoned.

Exactly.

Unknown5uspect posted...

I've been saying shit like this for months.

I had my first moderation on gamefaqs for suggesting anything in this topic and the mods called it fear mongering at the time. Now I see these topics on the regular.

Vegy posted...

Trump literally tried to change the Georgia elections results, we have dat on da record, its not too far-fetched to think dey cheated tbh

That was him pressuring republicans to steal for him and they refused. We know that because of republicans who released that and let us know it happened.

Now somehow we have him doing that across multiple different states but this time every single person involved in the scheme went along with it? It doesn't check out.

Were_Wyrm posted...

"To steal an election all you have to do is change one line of code" - elon musk

To not be immediately caught you have to make at least a dozen separate changes that in tandem cause the same results as one obvious line of code. - divot1338

divot1338 posted...

To not be immediately caught you have to make at least a dozen separate changes that in tandem cause the same results as one obvious line of code. - divot1338

There's also the mystery of how this could be done nationwide without the perps getting caught.

Sure, any place Republicans are counting the votes can't be trusted without independent verification, but the most expansive versions of this CT point to the nationwide rightward shift as grounds for suspicion.

Please.

Am I really supposed to believe Musk hacked election results in places like NY and CA where Democrats are running the system?

It wouldnt have had to be done nationwide.

Ofc it was rigged, both Trump and Elon have basically admitted as such.

SaikyoStyle posted...

It wouldnt have had to be done nationwide.

Of course vote count fraud by small margin only matters in swing states.

But the more enthusiastic advocates of "the vote counts were rigged in 2024" position point to nationwide voting patterns as evidence in favor of their view, and that's what I'm arguing against here.

StarFighters76 posted...

I would imagine because they didn't want to sink to Trump's level, which I get that.

Unless Kamala incites a domestic terrorist attack, she wouldn't sink to Trump's level. Demanding a recount would have been fine.

Trump on Elon Musk: "He knows those computers better than anybody. All those computers. Those vote-counting computers. And we ended up winning Pennsylvania like in a landslide."

Were_Wyrm posted...

"To steal an election all you have to do is change one line of code" - elon musk

Wait... That's his quote?! I didn't see that one!

LightHawKnight posted...

At this point, does it matter if it is rigged? There is no way in hell Trump is ever going to step down.

I would feel a bit better if history at least knows that America didn't vote for this. That we were forced into it.

If they get enough evidence where miscounts like these would've resulted in an entirely different outcome if they didn't happen, then yes we should pursue the "stolen election" angle. This might take years though.

BakonBitz posted...

If they get enough evidence where miscounts like these would've resulted in an entirely different outcome if they didn't happen, then yes we should pursue the "stolen election" angle. This might take years though.

Exactly. Plus...local/state elections still matter. Wisconsin Supreme Court as one example. Musk wasted a ton of money on a loser!

Trump and Elon basically admitted they rigged it, and nothing came of it.
Nothing will happen. Trump for some reason gets away with everything.

SteveRogers33 posted...

Trump and Elon basically admitted they rigged it, and nothing came of it.
Nothing will happen. Trump for some reason gets away with everything.

Tump and Musk are both bullshitters with zero credibility for everything they say, even when they say things we'd like to believe are admissions of crimes.

Man, remember, like, a day ago, when everyone was shitting on UR for his thread about this? How this was all just wild conspiracy theories, and how the left needed to be better than MAGAts and not shout "rigged!" about it?

Good times.

CTrunks posted...

Man, remember, like, a day ago, when everyone was shitting on UR for his thread about this?

Why the fuck would I remember a UR thread?

DrizztLink posted...

These new Sonic characters are fuckin' weird.

Ok, this was good.

Wow she couldn't even get a single vote

Aztex posted...

Wow she couldn't even get a single vote

If all votes of a district are determined by a rabbi or other religious leader in that district, then that district should just be counted as having the single vote of that leader.