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hyperskate65 posted...

4 pages and no one mentioned Cloak? Wow

One person did.

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How have we gone through this much of a "woke" era and there's still no fucking netflix Static Shock

They put respect on his name in the JLU special and that's about it

Evening_Dragon posted...

How have we gone through this much of a "woke" era and there's still no fucking netflix Static Shock

They put respect on his name in the JLU special and that's about it

There was one either mentioned or at least started.

source: my friend tried to audition for it

Cassie posted...

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for a new page lol

A_Good_Boy posted...

The goalposts have been firmly planted the whole time. You're just too busy trying to ruleslawyer how a person throwing electricity at people isn't really throwing electricity at people but instead they're doing something else just because she has weather powers.

The opening post says electric based. Her powers are literally not electric based. Its weather based as she can throw heat, cold, air pressure, snow, wind, hurricanes, tornados, water, and much more than just electricity at people.

The goalpost was moved by you as you ignore a major detail about her powers to focus on a fraction of her powers. That again, isnt electric based.

hyperskate65 posted...

There was one either mentioned or at least started.

source: my friend tried to audition for it

That was canceled almost as soon as it started, unless this is a very recent audition.

Yeah it was probably a year or two ago by now? He's based out of ATL and had the audition but he never heard anything one way or another for a set up.

samuel l jackson

asdf8562 posted...

The opening post says electric based. Her powers are literally not electric based. Its weather based as she can throw heat, cold, air pressure, snow, wind, hurricanes, tornados, water, and much more than just electricity at people.

The goalpost was moved by you as you ignore a major detail about her powers to focus on a fraction of her powers. That again, isnt electric based.

That tiny fraction of her total powers represents a large majority of how she manifests her powers. You're twisting yourself in knots trying to explain how a character that's constantly bathed in electricity and is constantly throwing electricity at people doesn't count as an electric hero. Yeah she does other things, so does Miles Morales, but since electricity makes up so much of their movesets they still fit the classification.

Phoro posted...

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This reminds me of this cool Disneychannel original movie about a family of black supef heroes but Idr what it was called

A-Train

A_Good_Boy posted...

That tiny fraction of her total powers represents a large majority of how she manifests her powers.

This is untrue as well.

Majority of how she manifests her power is weather manipulation and the various uses of manipulating the atmosphere. Including, but not limited to wind, water, heat and more. This idea that she primarily uses electricity is not true either. You are narrowing down the abilities she uses to fit her into the box of an "electricity based hero."

As for Miles, not sure why you brought him up as I didnt bring him up, nor do I know anything about him to speak about him.

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A_Good_Boy posted...

That tiny fraction of her total powers represents a large majority of how she manifests her powers.

You've never read a comic have you

Luke Cage
Cloak
Steel
Cyborg
John Stewart
The Falcon
Storm
Aqua Lad
Batwing
Bumble Bee
Vixen

bloodyarts posted...

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This reminded me that "The Meteor Man" film exists and renowned soul singer Luther Vandross was among the enemy gangsters shown at the end of the film. A young, not yet famous Don Cheadle is also in it as a lieutenant.

El_Marsh posted...

This reminded me that "The Meteor Man" film exists and renowned soul singer Luther Vandross was among the enemy gangsters shown at the end of the film. A young, not yet famous Don Cheadle is also in it as a lieutenant.

Shouldn't the image of Meteor Man, posted before that, have been what reminded you of Meteor Man?

Nick Fury

im sure he's been mentioned, but so was everyone else I thought of

suchiuomizu posted...

Shouldn't the image of Meteor Man, posted before that, have been what reminded you of Meteor Man?

I clicked the topic and saw the newest post

I didn't think to look at the rest of the page because there's never a reason to do so most of the time

This was obviously not most times. Wdyd lol

Since we're down to obscure stuff, I'll add some Sentinel Comics characters

Mr. Fixer
The Naturalist
Parse
Benchmark

Spawn?

O-Dog

asdf8562 posted...

This is untrue as well.

Majority of how she manifests her power is weather manipulation and the various uses of manipulating the atmosphere. Including, but not limited to wind, water, heat and more. This idea that she primarily uses electricity is not true either. You are narrowing down the abilities she uses to fit her into the box of an "electricity based hero."

As for Miles, not sure why you brought him up as I didnt bring him up, nor do I know anything about him to speak about him.

She's not throwing bolts of weather at people, she's throwing bolts of lightning - which is electricity. Her most famous showings involve her being handicapped due to fighting in a copper statue and the other involves her asking Toad what happens when it's struck by lightning and then striking him with lightning. She's a weather witch that's constantly surrounded by lightning, or is generating lightning around her body, and even has lightning pouring out of her eyes.

You're trying way too hard to focus on a technicality. The cause of her electricity may be weather but the effect is still electricity. If she were to pick up Thor's hammer the take away wouldn't be "now she has lightning powers" it would be "she now also has a hammer".

spike. i remember him from the xmen evolution cartoon, i think was storm's nephew? could grow bone spikes the shoot them

Add Chapel to my list.....

A_Good_Boy posted...

She's not throwing bolts of weather at people, she's throwing bolts of lightning - which is electricity. Her most famous showings involve her being handicapped due to fighting in a copper statue and the other involves her asking Toad what happens when it's struck by lightning and then striking him with lightning

"She used lightning in 2 things over the course of a 50 year existence! Totally lightning based!"

My guy you dont read comics. I'm begging you to stop this. This is literally like saying spider man has web powers. "He throws web at people in every appearance and one if the movies he has webs come our of his wrists. Clearly he has web powers!"

Like, I'm begging you to think about how silly this is.

. If she were to pick up Thor's hammer the take away wouldn't be "now she has lightning powers

Yes it would be, because that is exactly what happens when she or anyone else successfully wields thors hammer.

Thor is rhe god of thunder. Storm is an energy manipulator.

Toonstrack posted...

"She used lightning in 2 things over the course of a 50 year existence! Totally lightning based!"

You'd have to bendover backwards to find depictions of her not being surrounded by lightning.

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Lightning lightning lightning lightning all lightning

She's an electric lady.

Yeah, by the criteria (without the goalpost moving a few have done), Storm would be disqualified since electricity manipulation (via weather channeling) is her primary form of offense in a TON of material. It's what you see in a lot of artwork and such of her doing, since it's (obviously) the most flashy power she can easily conjure up to blast someone with on a whim.

A_Good_Boy posted...

She's not throwing bolts of weather at people, she's throwing bolts of lightning - which is electricity.

You keep saying this, and its still remains untrue. She throws way more than just bolts of lightning at people. You just ignore literally the majority of other things she does because you want her to fit the narrative shes "electric based."

She throws lightning, therefore she has "an electric based superpower"

She just happens to also have other powers as well.

BombermanGold posted...

Yeah, by the criteria (without the goalpost moving a few have done), Storm would be disqualified since electricity manipulation (via weather channeling) is her primary form of offense in a TON of material. It's what you see in a lot of artwork and such of her doing, since it's (obviously) the most flashy power she can easily conjure up to blast someone with on a whim.

Nah, the reason she absolutely is fine is because of the "based" part. Her power in no way based on electricity: it's purely weather manipulation. So even if she literally never did another thing beyond shooting lightning everywhere she wouldn't apply. Inversely (and obviously the ignoring the "he's not black" bit) Magneto would be immediately disqualified because his power is based on electricity: his superpower is electromagnetism. The act of requiring lightning to be vomited everywhere is sort of the kindergarten take on the words: an electricity-based superpower doesn't mean that they can make lightning, it means that the power comes about because of electricity. The Flash having a million Google results showing lightning spewing off of him (and it's not just a visual thing, he moves so fast that lightning forms) doesn't mean that his superpower is somehow based on electricity: it's still about him running really fast/Speed Force related nonsense. Saying Storm is electricity-based is like saying that the Human Torch is smoke-based. Yeah fire makes smoke, but the fact that there is smoke doesn't mean that that's his power.

asdf8562 posted...

You keep saying this, and its still remains untrue. She throws way more than just bolts of lightning at people. You just ignore literally the majority of other things she does because you want her to fit the narrative shes "electric based."

The majority of things she does is lightning. If it's not lightning then it's wind, and what's not those two are the rest of her powers. She's a windy lightning lady. If you take away her lightning then she might as well stay home.

Accolon posted...

She throws lightning, therefore she has "an electric based superpower"

She just happens to also have other powers as well.

The argument being proposed is that shes an "electric based hero", not can she produce electricity by proxy from her main power of weather manipulation.

Her lightning is atmoskinetic based, not electric based. She doesnt just happen to also have other abilities. Those other abilities, including lightning, are all based/rooted in her one based ability to manipulate the atmosphere.

ellis123 posted...

Nah, the reason she absolutely is fine is because of the "based" part. Her power in no way based on electricity: it's purely weather manipulation. So even if she literally never did another thing beyond shooting lightning everywhere she wouldn't apply. Inversely (and obviously the ignoring the "he's not black" bit) Magneto would be immediately disqualified because his power is based on electricity: his superpower is electromagnetism. The act of requiring lightning to be vomited everywhere is sort of the kindergarten take on the words: an electricity-based superpower doesn't mean that they can make lightning, it means that the power comes about because of electricity. The Flash having a million Google results showing lightning spewing off of him (and it's not just a visual thing, he moves so fast that lightning forms) doesn't mean that his superpower is somehow based on electricity: it's still about him running really fast/Speed Force related nonsense. Saying Storm is electricity-based is like saying that the Human Torch is smoke-based. Yeah fire makes smoke, but the fact that there is smoke doesn't mean that that's his power.

This.

asdf8562 posted...

The argument being proposed is that shes an "electric based hero", not can she produce electricity by proxy from her main power of weather manipulation.

Her lightning is atmoskinetic based, not electric based. She doesnt just happen to also have other abilities. Those other abilities, including lightning, are all based/rooted in her one based ability to manipulate the atmosphere.

The "based" part of "electric based" is about character archetypes, not power generation. She's a character whose entire motif is steeped with an association to lightning. Her most common depictions associate her with lightning. Her most common outfit colors are white and yellow, she even wears shoulder pads so it looks like she's flanked by sharp angles like a lightning bolt. On occasion she even wears lightning bolt earrings. Her eyes are glowing light and flash electrical arcs. She showcases her powers by showing off lightning. Her name is literally fucking Storm, cause of the lightning. She calls herself a weather witch and then punctuates the statement with thunder and lightning.

You're focusing too hard on the specifics of how the lightning is generated. Who cares if it's by weather when all almost everything about the character is focused specifically on the lightning?

Vixen

A_Good_Boy posted...

You're focusing too hard on the specifics of how the lightning is generated. Who cares if it's by weather when all almost everything about the character is focused specifically on the lightning?

More like you are focused on lightning and ignoring everything else that isnt lightning about her.

But I digress. Ellis123 pretty much covers my stance on trying to argue shes "electric based." That user also better articulates my stance.

ellis123 posted...

Nah, the reason she absolutely is fine is because of the "based" part. Her power in no way based on electricity: it's purely weather manipulation. So even if she literally never did another thing beyond shooting lightning everywhere she wouldn't apply. Inversely (and obviously the ignoring the "he's not black" bit) Magneto would be immediately disqualified because his power is based on electricity: his superpower is electromagnetism. The act of requiring lightning to be vomited everywhere is sort of the kindergarten take on the words: an electricity-based superpower doesn't mean that they can make lightning, it means that the power comes about because of electricity. The Flash having a million Google results showing lightning spewing off of him (and it's not just a visual thing, he moves so fast that lightning forms) doesn't mean that his superpower is somehow based on electricity: it's still about him running really fast/Speed Force related nonsense. Saying Storm is electricity-based is like saying that the Human Torch is smoke-based. Yeah fire makes smoke, but the fact that there is smoke doesn't mean that that's his power.

The Flash argument falls apart since that's not what he is KNOWN for. People think of the Flash, they think of him being "really really fast." The lighting motif on him (and effects) are just a visual effect of his power. He's not actively channeling or BLASTING people with electricity, lol.

Hence why most here agree that's generally what Storm does when she's channeling her abilities, her primary thing IS throwing them bolts around.

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This is quickly turning into a Simpson's Comic Book Guy online argument.

BombermanGold posted...

The lighting motif on him (and effects) are just a visual effect of his power. He's not actively channeling or BLASTING people with electricity, lol.

The Flash is also known for shooting people with lightning as well. Its not just a visual effect. The TV series, comics and the movie franchise has him literally making electric bolts as part of his toolkit.

asdf8562 posted...

More like you are focused on lightning and ignoring everything else that isnt lightning about her.

Dude there is almost nothing else to Storm but lightning. Her physical appearance is based on an association to lightning, her costume is based on an association to lightning, her powers are based on an association to lightning, her most famous quotes are based on an association to lightning, her literal fucking name is based on an association to lightning.

If you took Ororo and removed everything about her that's connected to lightning then you'd have a character that would no longer resemble her at all in anyway shape or form. She is to lightning as lightning is to her. She is an electric lady and you're just gonna have to deal with it.

asdf8562 posted...

The Flash is also known for shooting people with lightning as well. Its not just a visual effect. The TV series, comics and the movie franchise has him literally making electric bolts as part of his toolkit.

He's associated with lightning because of the speed, not for the zappy zappy. When he's hitting people with lightning he's usually sucking their speed away. When Storm does it she's electrocuting them.

Flash is a fast man, Storm is an electric lady.

A_Good_Boy posted...

You'd have to bendover backwards to find depictions of her not being surrounded by lightning.

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Lightning lightning lightning lightning all lightning

She's an electric lady.

So does spider man have web powers then that's the exact logic you're using lmao. Theres a bunch of images there with no lightning. This is literally exactly as valid as saying she has wind powers because she's often seen flying.

If someone asks you "what's the flashes power" are you going to say "electricity" lmao

Like this is so silly

Toonstrack posted...

So does spider man have web powers then that's the exact logic you're using lmao.

Spiderman has spider powers. He doesn't have web powers, that part is pretty explicit.

Come on guys, I have no idea why you're doing this to yourself. It's getting silly now. You tried to munchkin and failed, it happens. Get over it.

BombermanGold posted...

The Flash argument falls apart since that's not what he is KNOWN for. People think of the Flash, they think of him being "really really fast." The lighting motif on him (and effects) are just a visual effect of his power. He's not actively channeling or BLASTING people with electricity, lol.

Hence why most here agree that's generally what Storm does

I like how you say people agree what storm does like its a matter of opinion. Its not. We know what her powers are. The characters powers are well established and they are in fact not electricity based lmao.

Electros powers are electricity based. Statics powers are electricity based. Storm is not.

A_Good_Boy posted...

He's associated with lightning because of the speed, not for the zappy zappy. When he's hitting people with lightning he's usually sucking their speed away. When Storm does it she's electrocuting them.

Flash is a fast man, Storm is an electric lady.

The Flash literally emits and shoots lightning. He isnt "sucking their speed away" in every iteration of him literally shooting electricity at people. For example the DC movies and even the CWverse.

But, bravo on the gymnastics double standard there on why the Flash doesnt count as an electric hero (despite his back story being about electricity, the costume, and even his ability to emit and shoot electricity) because it comes from his speed power..... but Storm totally is "electric based" if we ignore it comes from her weather manipulation lol

Granted, Im not arguing Flash or Storm are electric based. Just that if you think one is "electric based", then the same applies to other.

A_Good_Boy posted...

Spiderman has spider powers. He doesn't have web powers, that part is pretty explicit.

No, clearly every image i can google of him he's using webs and he attacks almost exclusively with webs. Therefore he was web powers. Theres even webs on his costume. Webs have to do with spiders sure but he only uses webs. So web powers.

Im just using your logic.

Come on guys, I have no idea why you're doing this to yourself.

Being correct? Factually?

Black Panther is the only black one I can name but in fairness I cant name many white ones either. Batman, Superman, Spiderman, Deadpool thats it at least for off the top of my head. (Invincible then also popped into my head while writing it.)

Spawn, but yeah Static Shock was the first thing to pop into mind.

Anyone who grew up with 90s X-Men animated series would know Storm as a wind based hero, as she used more tornadoes and mist than she used lightning.

asdf8562 posted...

The Flash literally emits and shoots lightning. He isnt "sucking their speed away" in every iteration of him literally shooting electricity at people. For example the DC movies and even the CWverse.

But, bravo on the gymnastics double standard there on why the Flash doesnt count as an electric hero (despite his back story being about electricity, the costume, and even his ability to emit and shoot electricity) because it comes from his speed power..... but Storm totally is "electric based" if we ignore it comes from her weather manipulation lol

Granted, Im not arguing Flash or Storm are electric based. Just that if you think one is "electric based", then the same applies to other.

Dude that's not lightning that acts as regular electricity, that's speed force shit. The Flash is associated with lightning because it's used to represent the speed force. When the Flash does lightning stuff that's representative of the speed force, which is essentially the explanation for Al the physics breaking things that the Flash does. There's a reason why only speed force related characters have lightning when they're depicting speed. When the Flash runs through a neighborhood at the speed of light everything is fine cause of the speed force. When Superman does it then it creates shockwaves and destroys the place cause he doesn't have a magical connection to the speed force to explain away why he's not destroying everything around him. So when the flash does lightning shit, he's using it as a light saber or as a containment beam of something else stupid cause it's not real lightning.

That's not the same for Storm, who as you've said a million times actually is using real lightning cause she's manipulating the weather. That's why when Storm does lightning shit she's zapping things and when the flash is doing lightning things he's usually doing comicbook bullshit related to the speed force and being a fast guy. They are not at all the same thing and it's weird that you'd even pretend that they are.

I feel like you're knowledgeable enough with both Storm and the Flash to know you're putting forth a bad faith argument on purpose for no reason other to sustain an argument you know you've lost.