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There isn't one. That's why this war has raged for 80 years.

There isn't one. That's why this war has raged for 80 years.

i didn't ask for an objectively perfect realistic solution, i asked if there is a consensus choice (warts and all) among outside observers who are not biased towards israel

i didn't ask for an objectively perfect realistic solution, i asked if there is a consensus choice (warts and all) among outside observers who are not biased towards israel

There isn't one. You have one side that is large and American-backed that is positioning this as a retaliation to terrorism and anti-semitism, and then you have the other side that is backed by much of the rest of the west that sees this as a genocide. These ideas are fundamentally incompatible and yet both have large scale support and backing. You don't reason and compromise with people who want your entire race dead.

I appreciate everything you've said as evidently true, but I think there's been a miscommunication. I'm asking what Normal People Who Care About This Conflict And Want Better For Palestinians generally suggest as a long-term solution worth working towards, regardless of any admitted flaws or how realistic. You and other replies seem to be answering why governments are acting the way they are, which - while abhorrent obviously - isn't what I'm asking.

I'm asking what Normal People Who Care About This Conflict And Want Better For Palestinians generally suggest as a long-term solution worth working towards, regardless of any admitted flaws or how realistic.

The only one that would actually work long term is a one state sharing of the region with full civil rights and legal and economic/actual equality for both Israelis and Palestinians. The state would still need to be called Israel.

Two state solution won't work because Israel is never going to let an actual state with full sovereignty exist that close to them.

Have a third neutral party control historic Palestine.

I personally believe that the only realistic solution is something similar to the current US system of "US Citizen and US National". One state with the current Israelis as citizens and the current Palestinians as nationals of that state. That means in summary that Palestinian nationals get all the rights as citizens except for the right to vote in the general elections (they can still vote in the regional elections for Gaza/West Bank though). Other than voting they have the exact same rights as the citizens in every facet and aren't discriminated against in anyway, with rules set to confirm that.

Then on the (very) long term as new generations will rise and interact with each other each of the two sides will see that most of the propaganda they learned about the other side being bad/evil is wrong. Then you can have a referendum where that rule is lifted and the nationals get changed into citizens.

That way the Israelis will have their biggest issue with giving the Palestinians their rights removed, which is their fear that they will become a minority in their own country and won't be able to make the decisions about their own future. And it is needless to say that getting every single right in every aspect of everything other than national voting is a trillion times better for the Palestinians than their current situation even before Gaza's invasion

Netanyahu has to go, first step.

Politicians will say they want the two to come together and hash things out but internally they know the only path is the one that has been allowed for decades and is coming closer to it's end.

The mainstream solution proposed by most US politicians is the 2 state solution, which would in theory constitue a separate Israeli and Palestinian state.

For a whole host of reasons this is no longer realistically possible. In my view the only thing that will work long-term is an end to the Israeli apartheid system and a single state with equal rights for all.

Someone needs to finally either prove or disprove the existence of God so we can all just move on.

Someone needs to finally either prove or disprove the existence of God so we can all just move on.

I appreciate you're contributing and I do not believe you have bad intentions for this topic but to reiterate for a 3rd time, I am not asking about politicians and governments, I am asking about everyday people who do not hold any strong personal career/ethnic/religious connection to the conflict but feel strongly about it regardless. The actions and positions and motivations of elected politicians are well known.

It literally doesn't matter. If you prove the existence of God and it turns out God hates Trump then they will reject God because their motivation isn't religion.

Netanyahu has to go, first step.

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what's this from?

what's this from?

what's this from?

Among Us

what's this from?

Injustice year one.

I don't have the follow up panel but it's two different people agreeing to the peace treaty while Superman is covered in blood and there's a giant stain of blood on the wall behind him.

That's about what it would take. My cage match idea is similarly cynical/realistic.