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HylianFox 06/29/25 11:49:51 AM #1:	I mean fuck, just look at the Star Wars Special Editions. Everyone agrees that the copious amounts of CGI they added only detracted from the films. --- THIS SPACE INTENTIONALLY LEFT BLANK Do not write in this space. <cite>HylianFox posted [p:985604966] in Practical ... [t:81006075]...</cite> <quote>I mean fuck, just look at the Star Wars Special Editions.Everyone agrees that the copious amounts of CGI they added only detracted from the films.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
chris1001_the_sequel 06/29/25 11:52:07 AM #2:	I think the best answer is a smart mix of both. --- This is a signature. <cite>chris1001_the_sequel posted [p:985604992] in Practical ... [t:81006075]...</cite> <quote>I think the best answer is a smart mix of both. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ai123 06/29/25 11:54:42 AM #3:	If you start fucking around with beloved, well known films just because you can, of course people won't like it. You get good and bad results with both. --- 'Vinyl is the poor man's art collection'. Let in the refugees, deport the racists. <cite>ai123 posted [p:985605019] in Practical ... [t:81006075]...</cite> <quote>If you start fucking around with beloved, well known films just because you can, of course people won't like it.You get good and bad results with both.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
rexcrk 06/29/25 11:55:21 AM #4:	chris1001_the_sequel posted... I think the best answer is a smart mix of both. This --- Life's what you make it, so let's make it rock <cite>rexcrk posted [p:985605026] in Practical ... [t:81006075]...</cite> <quote>chris1001_the_sequel posted... </cite><quote>I think the best answer is a smart mix of both.</quote>This</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Squall28 06/29/25 11:55:28 AM #5:	I prefer it usually, but I wouldn't say always. Like CGI Godzilla looks better than the costume they used to have. You just have more possibilities in terms of what you can do. --- You can't go back and change the beginning, but you can start where you are and change the ending. -Misattributed to CS Lewis <cite>Squall28 posted [p:985605027] in Practical ... [t:81006075]...</cite> <quote>I prefer it usually, but I wouldn't say always. Like CGI Godzilla looks better than the costume they used to have. You just have more possibilities in terms of what you can do. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
divot1338 06/29/25 11:59:48 AM #6:	HylianFox posted... I mean fuck, just look at the Star Wars Special Editions. Everyone agrees that the copious amounts of CGI they added only detracted from the films. I cant believe they built that whole Death Star setpiece only to just blow the whole thing up on the last day of shooting. --- Moustache twirling villain https://i.imgur.com/U3lt3H4.jpg- Kerbey <cite>divot1338 posted [p:985605074] in Practical ... [t:81006075]...</cite> <quote>HylianFox posted... </cite><quote>I mean fuck, just look at the Star Wars Special Editions.Everyone agrees that the copious amounts of CGI they added only detracted from the films.</quote>I cant believe they built that whole Death Star setpiece only to just blow the whole thing up on the last day of shooting.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 06/29/25 12:17:53 PM #7:	I always thought Yoda looks more real in Empire Strikes Back than in the Star Wars prequels <cite>Zikten posted [p:985605256] in Practical ... [t:81006075]...</cite> <quote>I always thought Yoda looks more real in Empire Strikes Back than in the Star Wars prequels</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JaiCSC 06/29/25 12:48:43 PM #8:	chris1001_the_sequel posted... I think the best answer is a smart mix of both. This. Use the right tool for the right job. Don't use a watercolour brush to paint your bedroom walls and don't use a paint roller for drawing a small landscape painting. --- I Shot the Sheriff. <cite>JaiCSC posted [p:985605582] in Practical ... [t:81006075]...</cite> <quote>chris1001_the_sequel posted... </cite><quote>I think the best answer is a smart mix of both.</quote>This.Use the right tool for the right job.Don't use a watercolour brush to paint your bedroom walls and don't use a paint roller for drawing a small landscape painting.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AsucaHayashi 06/29/25 12:54:12 PM #9:	Zikten posted... I always thought Yoda looks more real in Empire Strikes Back than in the Star Wars prequels how would puppet yoda jedi fights even work? --- http://abload.de/img/pcgamingxtuvt.jpg http://i.imgur.com/9Yv0R2Z.jpg <cite>AsucaHayashi posted [p:985605634] in Practical ... [t:81006075]...</cite> <quote>Zikten posted... </cite><quote>I always thought Yoda looks more real in Empire Strikes Back than in the Star Wars prequels</quote>how would puppet yoda jedi fights even work?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JKwaffle 06/29/25 12:54:50 PM #10:	chris1001_the_sequel posted... I think the best answer is a smart mix of both. --- - The user formerly known as WafflehouseJK <cite>JKwaffle posted [p:985605644] in Practical ... [t:81006075]...</cite> <quote>chris1001_the_sequel posted... </cite><quote>I think the best answer is a smart mix of both.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
joe_stalin518 06/29/25 12:55:26 PM #11:	Or the difference between LOTR and the Hobbit movies --- how does super mario world work without updates? Relax I know what I'm doing,I been killing topics since 1987 <cite>joe_stalin518 posted [p:985605653] in Practical ... [t:81006075]...</cite> <quote>Or the difference between LOTR and the Hobbit movies </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JKwaffle 06/29/25 12:56:11 PM #12:	Squall28 posted... I prefer it usually, but I wouldn't say always. Like CGI Godzilla looks better than the costume they used to have. You just have more possibilities in terms of what you can do. While youre not wrong, I do love me some classic guy-in-a-rubber-suit Godzilla --- - The user formerly known as WafflehouseJK <cite>JKwaffle posted [p:985605660] in Practical ... [t:81006075]...</cite> <quote>Squall28 posted... </cite><quote>I prefer it usually, but I wouldn't say always. Like CGI Godzilla looks better than the costume they used to have. You just have more possibilities in terms of what you can do.</quote>While youre not wrong, I do love me some classic guy-in-a-rubber-suit Godzilla</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The_Popo 06/29/25 12:56:44 PM #13:	I always appreciated how they used real blasters and real lightsabers in the original Star Wars --- Live action Hungry Hungry Hippos though, now that was a sport. ~Aeon Azuran <cite>The_Popo posted [p:985605667] in Practical ... [t:81006075]...</cite> <quote>I always appreciated how they used real blasters and real lightsabers in the original Star Wars</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Toonstrack 06/29/25 12:57:20 PM #14:	HylianFox posted... I mean fuck, just look at the Star Wars Special Editions. Everyone agrees that the copious amounts of CGI they added only detracted from the films. I mean, most of what they replaced weren't amazing either. Theres excellent sues for both. --- The succotash is suffering. Comic Artist <cite>Toonstrack posted [p:985605675] in Practical ... [t:81006075]...</cite> <quote>HylianFox posted... </cite><quote>I mean fuck, just look at the Star Wars Special Editions.Everyone agrees that the copious amounts of CGI they added only detracted from the films.</quote>I mean, most of what they replaced weren't amazing either.Theres excellent sues for both.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DrizztLink 06/29/25 12:57:29 PM #15:	chris1001_the_sequel posted... I think the best answer is a smart mix of both. That. Jurassic Park was quite possibly the first film (or at least the largest/most well-known) to use CGI for effects that weren't amorphous like the T-1000. They tried claymation and animatronics first, kept the latter for the T-Rex, but the former ended up with a bunch of very intricately designed figures with a lot of articulation. They used those to design the CGI and it still holds up pretty well. --- He/Him http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png <cite>DrizztLink posted [p:985605676] in Practical ... [t:81006075]...</cite> <quote>chris1001_the_sequel posted... </cite><quote>I think the best answer is a smart mix of both.</quote>That.Jurassic Park was quite possibly the first film (or at least the largest/most well-known) to use CGI for effects that weren't amorphous like the T-1000.They tried claymation and animatronics first, kept the latter for the T-Rex, but the former ended up with a bunch of very intricately designed figures with a lot of articulation.They used those to design the CGI and it still holds up pretty well.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Evening_Dragon 06/29/25 12:58:41 PM #16:	I know they put crazy work into Gollum for the 2000s LOTR trilogy, but how have they still not surpassed or even matched it by now? --- And which of you by worrying can add a single hour to your span of life? It's Guide <cite>Evening_Dragon posted [p:985605689] in Practical ... [t:81006075]...</cite> <quote>I know they put crazy work into Gollum for the 2000s LOTR trilogy, but how have they still not surpassed or even matched it by now?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Toonstrack 06/29/25 1:04:52 PM #17:	Evening_Dragon posted... I know they put crazy work into Gollum for the 2000s LOTR trilogy, but how have they still not surpassed or even matched it by now? Thanos in IW is just as good if not better. --- The succotash is suffering. Comic Artist <cite>Toonstrack posted [p:985605765] in Practical ... [t:81006075]...</cite> <quote>Evening_Dragon posted... </cite><quote>I know they put crazy work into Gollum for the 2000s LOTR trilogy, but how have they still not surpassed or even matched it by now?</quote>Thanos in IW is just as good if not better.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dungeater 06/29/25 1:06:06 PM #18:	Evening_Dragon posted... I know they put crazy work into Gollum for the 2000s LOTR trilogy, but how have they still not surpassed or even matched it by now? how's davy jones stack up? that shit is still mindblowing --- My fate was the grandest, most brilliant of them all. He/Him <cite>Dungeater posted [p:985605780] in Practical ... [t:81006075]...</cite> <quote>Evening_Dragon posted... </cite><quote>I know they put crazy work into Gollum for the 2000s LOTR trilogy, but how have they still not surpassed or even matched it by now?</quote>how's davy jones stack up? that shit is still mindblowing </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Evening_Dragon 06/29/25 1:30:12 PM #19:	Toonstrack posted... Thanos in IW is just as good if not better. Eh Dungeater posted... how's davy jones stack up? that shit is still mindblowing Okay that one was pretty good actually --- And which of you by worrying can add a single hour to your span of life? It's Guide <cite>Evening_Dragon posted [p:985606024] in Practical ... [t:81006075]...</cite> <quote>Toonstrack posted... </cite><quote>Thanos in IW is just as good if not better.</quote>EhDungeater posted... </cite><quote>how's davy jones stack up? that shit is still mindblowing</quote>Okay that one was pretty good actually</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kurt_Russel 06/29/25 1:42:56 PM #20:	Remember in The Thing (2011) they went on and on about using nothing but practical effects, but then opted for shitty looking CGI at the last moment? I remember. --- You gonna do somethin' or just stand there and bleed? <cite>Kurt_Russel posted [p:985606128] in Practical ... [t:81006075]...</cite> <quote>Remember in The Thing (2011) they went on and on about using nothing but practical effects, but then opted for shitty looking CGI at the last moment?I remember.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightSnake 06/29/25 1:54:59 PM #21:	It depends on the film. I don't think Lord of the rings could have been done without CGI, honestly. albeit the technical work done is also dizzying with the sheer detail they put into it (the blacksmiths rubbed off their fingerprints making chainmail by hand, the makeup artists worked overtime, etc.) Kurt_Russel posted... Remember in The Thing (2011) they went on and on about using nothing but practical effects, but then opted for shitty looking CGI at the last moment? I remember. Rob Bottin slept in studio and did nothing but work on the Thing in the 1980s. It's actually very sad when you look at how many SFX gurus like Rich Baker and Bottin have retired because of an overreliance on CGI. --- Ring the bells that still can ring/Forget your perfect offering/There is a crack in everything/That's how the light gets in."- RIP, Leonard Cohen <cite>LightSnake posted [p:985606231] in Practical ... [t:81006075]...</cite> <quote>It depends on the film. I don't think Lord of the rings could have been done without CGI, honestly. albeit the technical work done is also dizzying with the sheer detail they put into it (the blacksmiths rubbed off their fingerprints making chainmail by hand, the makeup artists worked overtime, etc.)Kurt_Russel posted... </cite><quote>Remember in The Thing (2011) they went on and on about using nothing but practical effects, but then opted for shitty looking CGI at the last moment?I remember.</quote>Rob Bottin slept in studio and did nothing but work on the Thing in the 1980s. It's actually very sad when you look at how many SFX gurus like Rich Baker and Bottin have retired because of an overreliance on CGI. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DrizztLink 06/29/25 1:57:16 PM #22:	LightSnake posted... It depends on the film. I don't think Lord of the rings could have been done without CGI, honestly. albeit the technical work done is also dizzying with the sheer detail they put into it (the blacksmiths rubbed off their fingerprints making chainmail by hand, the makeup artists worked overtime, etc.) That's the point being raised, look at the first versus second set of films. The first one looks dated, sure, but it still holds up pretty well. The second one looked dated before the first movie's trailers all came out. Because the first one did the legwork to have the CGI support practical effects while the second just went full "we have one set and it's a green box." --- He/Him http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png <cite>DrizztLink posted [p:985606251] in Practical ... [t:81006075]...</cite> <quote>LightSnake posted... </cite><quote>It depends on the film. I don't think Lord of the rings could have been done without CGI, honestly. albeit the technical work done is also dizzying with the sheer detail they put into it (the blacksmiths rubbed off their fingerprints making chainmail by hand, the makeup artists worked overtime, etc.)</quote>That's the point being raised, look at the first versus second set of films.The first one looks dated, sure, but it still holds up pretty well.The second one looked dated before the first movie's trailers all came out.Because the first one did the legwork to have the CGI support practical effects while the second just went full "we have one set and it's a green box."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Amakusa 06/29/25 1:57:44 PM #23:	HylianFox posted... I mean fuck, just look at the Star Wars Special Editions. Everyone agrees that the copious amounts of CGI they added only detracted from the films. I don't know about that. The extra windows on Cloud City did wonders for that place. --- I will rule the world, and find that truly good cup of coffee. <cite>Amakusa posted [p:985606256] in Practical ... [t:81006075]...</cite> <quote>HylianFox posted... </cite><quote>I mean fuck, just look at the Star Wars Special Editions.Everyone agrees that the copious amounts of CGI they added only detracted from the films.</quote>I don't know about that. The extra windows on Cloud City did wonders for that place.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightSnake 06/29/25 1:58:49 PM #24:	DrizztLink posted... That's the point being raised, look at the first versus second set of films. The first one looks dated, sure, but it still holds up pretty well. The second one looked dated before the first movie's trailers all came out. Because the first one did the legwork to have the CGI support practical effects while the second just went full "we have one set and it's a green box." the Hobbit...yeah. It looks nice, but soulless at the same time. --- Ring the bells that still can ring/Forget your perfect offering/There is a crack in everything/That's how the light gets in."- RIP, Leonard Cohen <cite>LightSnake posted [p:985606263] in Practical ... [t:81006075]...</cite> <quote>DrizztLink posted... </cite><quote>That's the point being raised, look at the first versus second set of films.The first one looks dated, sure, but it still holds up pretty well.The second one looked dated before the first movie's trailers all came out.Because the first one did the legwork to have the CGI support practical effects while the second just went full "we have one set and it's a green box."</quote>the Hobbit...yeah. It looks nice, but soulless at the same time. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
divot1338 06/29/25 1:59:45 PM #25:	My main complaint about Star Wars CGI is that it was done to advance terrible plot changes. --- Moustache twirling villain https://i.imgur.com/U3lt3H4.jpg- Kerbey <cite>divot1338 posted [p:985606272] in Practical ... [t:81006075]...</cite> <quote>My main complaint about Star Wars CGI is that it was done to advance terrible plot changes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DrizztLink 06/29/25 2:02:00 PM #27:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] I kind of got it from the Rogue One Tarkin, but I don't think that's what they were going for >.> --- He/Him http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png <cite>DrizztLink posted [p:985606301] in Practical ... [t:81006075]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> I kind of got it from the Rogue One Tarkin, but I don't think that's what they were going for >.></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mercurydude 06/29/25 2:25:42 PM #28:	Medusa in the original Clash of the Titans looks more impressive and more frightening than any CGI monster I can think of. Well, perhaps I should specify that I mean intentionally frightening when I say that. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/a/ab156c5c.jpg --- God forbid you ever had to walk a mile in her shoes, 'cause then you really might know what it's like to have to choose. - Everlast <cite>mercurydude posted [p:985606542] in Practical ... [t:81006075]...</cite> <quote>Medusa in the original Clash of the Titans looks more impressive and more frightening than any CGI monster I can think of.Well, perhaps I should specify that I mean intentionally frightening when I say that.https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/a/ab156c5c.jpg</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DrizztLink 06/29/25 3:07:52 PM #29:	mercurydude posted... Medusa in the original Clash of the Titans looks more impressive and more frightening than any CGI monster I can think of. Well, perhaps I should specify that I mean intentionally frightening when I say that. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/a/ab156c5c.jpg You didn't even pick the worst option. It would be James Corbin, who managed to hit the Uncanny Valley by trying to make him look more like an actual human but not succeeding. --- He/Him http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png <cite>DrizztLink posted [p:985606946] in Practical ... [t:81006075]...</cite> <quote>mercurydude posted... </cite><quote>Medusa in the original Clash of the Titans looks more impressive and more frightening than any CGI monster I can think of.Well, perhaps I should specify that I mean intentionally frightening when I say that.https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/a/ab156c5c.jpg</quote>You didn't even pick the worst option.It would be James Corbin, who managed to hit the Uncanny Valley by trying to make him look more like an actual human but not succeeding.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
divot1338 06/29/25 3:09:30 PM #30:	DrizztLink posted... You didn't even pick the worst option. It would be James Corbin, who managed to hit the Uncanny Valley by trying to make him look more like an actual human but not succeeding. It would have been more catlike if he plopped down midsong and started tongue bathing his starfish. --- Moustache twirling villain https://i.imgur.com/U3lt3H4.jpg- Kerbey <cite>divot1338 posted [p:985606964] in Practical ... [t:81006075]...</cite> <quote>DrizztLink posted... </cite><quote>You didn't even pick the worst option.It would be James Corbin, who managed to hit the Uncanny Valley by trying to make him look more like an actual human but not succeeding.</quote>It would have been more catlike if he plopped down midsong and started tongue bathing his starfish.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 06/29/25 3:42:23 PM #31:	AsucaHayashi posted... how would puppet yoda jedi fights even work? Well for one thing, I'm part of the group who thinks Yoda never should habe fought. That was one of the biggest things I hated about the prequels <cite>Zikten posted [p:985607324] in Practical ... [t:81006075]...</cite> <quote>AsucaHayashi posted... </cite><quote>how would puppet yoda jedi fights even work?</quote>Well for one thing, I'm part of the group who thinks Yoda never should habe fought. That was one of the biggest things I hated about the prequels</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KFHEWUI 06/29/25 3:48:26 PM #32:	Practical effects plus matte paintings are a perfect combo. --- R.I.P. SaikyoMog! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-seAIeu3Og "Me and my swole chihuahua are about to blow you away, Becky," Anya from SPYxFAMILY <cite>KFHEWUI posted [p:985607404] in Practical ... [t:81006075]...</cite> <quote>Practical effects plus matte paintings are a perfect combo.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
rick_alverado 06/29/25 3:59:25 PM #33:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] Not a horror movie, but they did use CGI to intentionally get an uncanny valley effect from Vision in Avengers: Age of Ultron. They used a costume and makeup to make him fully look like Vision, then they used CGI to first remove a bunch of features and then add them back in, so that something would look intentionally off about him. <cite>rick_alverado posted [p:985607525] in Practical ... [t:81006075]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> Not a horror movie, but they did use CGI to intentionally get an uncanny valley effect from Vision in Avengers: Age of Ultron. They used a costume and makeup to make him fully look like Vision, then they used CGI to first remove a bunch of features and then add them back in, so that something would look intentionally off about him.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LightningAce11 06/29/25 4:37:16 PM #35:	People dont notice most CGI anyway. --- I want you to grab your nuts. Grab your balls. I want you to take a handful, and just grab your nuts real quick. Swivel 'em around in a circular motion. -LTG <cite>LightningAce11 posted [p:985607961] in Practical ... [t:81006075]...</cite> <quote>People dont notice most CGI anyway. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
rick_alverado 06/29/25 4:41:38 PM #36:	LightningAce11 posted... People dont notice most CGI anyway. Yeah, I watch a lot of behind the scenes stuff, so I often have a good idea of what is practical and what is CGI, and I have frequently seen people complain about bad CGI over things that were practical, or praise practical effects for things that were CGI. <cite>rick_alverado posted [p:985607993] in Practical ... [t:81006075]...</cite> <quote>LightningAce11 posted... </cite><quote>People dont notice most CGI anyway.</quote>Yeah, I watch a lot of behind the scenes stuff, so I often have a good idea of what is practical and what is CGI, and I have frequently seen people complain about bad CGI over things that were practical, or praise practical effects for things that were CGI.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
evilpresident 06/29/25 4:46:43 PM #37:	Kurt_Russel posted... Remember in The Thing (2011) they went on and on about using nothing but practical effects, but then opted for shitty looking CGI at the last moment? I remember. From what I recall, they didn't even tell the special effects team about the change until the movie premiere. --- Corruption that you can believe in. (She/her) <cite>evilpresident posted [p:985608040] in Practical ... [t:81006075]...</cite> <quote>Kurt_Russel posted... </cite><quote>Remember in The Thing (2011) they went on and on about using nothing but practical effects, but then opted for shitty looking CGI at the last moment?I remember.</quote>From what I recall, they didn't even tell the special effects team about the change until the movie premiere.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkAssassin89 06/29/25 4:56:37 PM #38:	The Hobbit was mentioned, and yeah, those movies looked fucking horrible when they came out and even worse now. Davy Jones and Gollum probably remain the pinnacle of CGI and they are like 20 years old. --- Dark89 <cite>DarkAssassin89 posted [p:985608129] in Practical ... [t:81006075]...</cite> <quote>The Hobbit was mentioned, and yeah, those movies looked fucking horrible when they came out and even worse now.Davy Jones and Gollum probably remain the pinnacle of CGI and they are like 20 years old.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Toonstrack 06/29/25 8:09:10 PM #39:	LightningAce11 posted... People dont notice most CGI anyway. Yup. For example. Capes in any superhero movies are cg. Any of them. 99% of the time it's not there. --- The succotash is suffering. Comic Artist <cite>Toonstrack posted [p:985610001] in Practical ... [t:81006075]...</cite> <quote>LightningAce11 posted... </cite><quote>People dont notice most CGI anyway.</quote>Yup.For example. Capes in any superhero movies are cg. Any of them. 99% of the time it's not there. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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