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Ivynn 07/23/25 9:21:32 AM #1: |
People have strong opinions about this one. Does this Kevin Smith movie hold up? 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HighSeraph 07/23/25 9:23:23 AM #2: |
Not really --- There are wounds that never show on the body that are deeper and more hurtful than anything that bleeds. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ivynn 07/23/25 12:32:00 PM #3: |
noon bump --- http://i.imgur.com/vDci4hD.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MotaroRIP619 07/23/25 12:47:35 PM #4: |
Its ok. Not his best honestly. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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boomgetchopped3 07/23/25 12:49:20 PM #5: |
I did in the early 00s. Not sure Id like it now --- Wink wink oh oh wink wink ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FrozenBananas 07/23/25 12:49:21 PM #6: |
I like it, and I love Kevin Smith, but the way they treat lesbians in the movie is not very nice. its as if these guys have literally never seen a gay couple before. I cant get over how shocked Jason Lee is when he finds out the two women are lesbians. Its like hes talking to aliens. That part hasnt aged well at all sadly, it used to be my favorite K Smith movie back in the day. But its somehow aged worse than any of his other films --- Big yellow joint big yellow joint I'll meet you down at the big yellow joint ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hayame_Zero 07/23/25 12:49:23 PM #7: |
It's okay, but I sort of agree with that girl who debated him at the college on one of the Evening With Kevin Smith docs about it coming off as him saying "Every lesbian just needs a good dick." --- ...I think I'm done here... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kaldrenthebold 07/23/25 12:49:50 PM #8: |
Fun fact, the ice skating rink in the movie is in the town I live in. I pass by it all the time. --- http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u223/chocolateFRESH/arts/kraid.png - Thanks GP cosmonaut! http://i.imgur.com/TuJWAR8.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ivynn 07/23/25 12:58:01 PM #9: |
FrozenBananas posted... I like it, and I love Kevin Smith, but the way they treat lesbians in the movie is not very nice. That's how I feel tbh. I liked it when I first saw it, but looking back now, there were lots of parts that didn't age well. Even if I look at it as "fair for its day" (like that Jason Lee scene you mention, many people at the time had no experience with lesbians and probably would have reacted like that back then), the plot of "man falls in love with lesbian and lesbian comes around and stops being lesbian" is just...bad. --- http://i.imgur.com/vDci4hD.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TomClark 07/23/25 1:12:37 PM #10: |
I really enjoyed it, but I haven't seen it in a long time and I suspect it probably hasn't aged well. --- http://i.imgur.com/6eF0W.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Shotgunnova 07/23/25 1:24:39 PM #12: |
Uhh, I don't think I've ever seen this one. --- Take me down from the ridge where the summer ends And watch the city spread out just like a jet's flame ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Gretgrab 07/23/25 1:32:29 PM #13: |
Yes --- McSame/Failin 08' ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DrizztLink 07/23/25 1:33:33 PM #14: |
[LFAQs-redacted-quote] As far as I recall, it was him trying to tell a story about a friend of his who fell for a lesbian and he just fucked it up entirely. --- He/Him http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dat_Cracka_Jax 07/23/25 3:11:27 PM #15: |
I watched it for the first time maybe a year ago and it just wasn't good imo --- http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/8131/flame201010170949481638.jpg http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/5517/cateyes.gif Rams: 7-9 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LosingStreak06 07/23/25 3:17:42 PM #16: |
Its definitely got some very problematic parts but its far and away Kevin Smiths best film --- Show me your might! Give me your best shot! You call this a fight? I said your best shot! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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archizzy 07/23/25 3:32:28 PM #17: |
DrizztLink posted... As far as I recall, it was him trying to tell a story about a friend of his who fell for a lesbian and he just fucked it up entirely. I talked about this in the Mallrats thread and copied info from wiki but it was stuff I knew as a long time fan. It was inspired by his brother being gay and not ever seeing any gay representation on screen and Kevin thinking that kind of sucks and it was because his good friend and executive producer Scott Mosier had a crush on a lesbian filmmaker Guinevere Turner they met at Sundance in 1994. After the festival Mosier and Turner kept in touch and he developed feelings for her that werent returned. This kind of turned into the movie but with other stuff. Kevin always said he knew nothing about gay culture and even less about lesbians and he shared the script with Turner and she provided input and she found some of the locations they used for bar scenes. Just because a single lesbian had input obviously doesnt make it universally accepted in the LGBTQ community but I think he went into it earnestly with a good heart and while it obviously missed with some, its not been problematic for others. --- PSN ID: sled_dogs76 60" Pioneer Kuro Elite PRO151FD, Yamaha RX-V3900 A/V Receiver, Oppo DV983-H player. Coming soon: 2 Seaton Submersives from Mark Seaton ... Copied to Clipboard!
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archizzy 07/23/25 3:35:24 PM #18: |
I love it. The original Jersey trilogy is still my top stuff. I was a full blown Smith fanboy by 97 and saw this in theatres on opening. Ill always remember it was April 4th 1997 because April 3rd is my birthday. I was 21 and we were in port so I celebrated the start of my birthday weekend by good food out with my two good friends who lived at the beach with me that year in the Navy where we were mostly in port and then I drug them to the theatre to watch this. Great night. --- PSN ID: sled_dogs76 60" Pioneer Kuro Elite PRO151FD, Yamaha RX-V3900 A/V Receiver, Oppo DV983-H player. Coming soon: 2 Seaton Submersives from Mark Seaton ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PballDepot 07/23/25 4:17:40 PM #19: |
One of his best. --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxVhRWBGOZ0 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ivynn 07/23/25 9:15:06 PM #20: |
night bump --- http://i.imgur.com/vDci4hD.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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