Current Events > ICE planning to flood Boston after Mayor Wu refuses to comply with feds

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JoCrazy
08/22/25 8:25:02 PM
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Acting ICE Director Todd Lyons says his agency is planning to "flood" Boston after Mayor Michelle Wu defied calls from the federal government to comply with their immigration policies.

https://on.nbcboston.com/0hZfTht

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-RandomFalco-
08/22/25 8:29:18 PM
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There's no way they have the capacity to do this sort of shit country wide, right? I know this is a dry run for what they can get away with, but this isn't a country the size of Germany. Scaling it out to stretch across the whole country would surely dilute them and make them ineffective.
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DragulaRULEZ
08/22/25 8:29:28 PM
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Have street sweepers go through when they show up.

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Accolon
08/22/25 8:30:40 PM
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They don't really need to do it nationwide, just in the major blue cities that aren't falling in line.

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Takuya_Lee
08/22/25 8:30:45 PM
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-RandomFalco- posted...
There's no way they have the capacity to do this sort of shit country wide, right? I know this is a dry run for what they can get away with, but this isn't a country the size of Germany. Scaling it out to stretch across the whole country would sure dilute them and make them ineffective.

They don't. ICE is having recruitment issues even with the incentives they're offering.

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Takuya_Lee
08/22/25 8:31:36 PM
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Accolon posted...
They don't really need to do it nationwide, just in the major blue cities that aren't falling in line.

Not that they could anyway. They don't have the manpower and they're burning thru money fast

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BlackScythe0
08/22/25 8:33:57 PM
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Takuya_Lee posted...
They don't. ICE is having recruitment issues even with the incentives they're offering.
Pretty sure people know the job is likely to get more dangerous over time.
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Accolon
08/22/25 8:34:50 PM
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Do you think Trump would institute a draft to forcibly fill out the ranks of ICE?

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Biofighter55
08/22/25 8:35:20 PM
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Takuya_Lee posted...
They don't. ICE is having recruitment issues even with the incentives they're offering.

apparently those incentives were for returning ex employees

new people dont get the $50k

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Takuya_Lee
08/22/25 8:39:06 PM
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Biofighter55 posted...
apparently those incentives were for returning ex employees

new people dont get the $50k

Of course they don't. Still having recruitment issues though.

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CobraGT
08/22/25 9:10:56 PM
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Back in April there was an EO which is now cited. I thought executive orders were emergency orders and at most active for 90 days.

Our leaders have to support our law enforcement.

Bondis letter asks the recipients to provide a response by 19 August that confirms your commitment with complying with federal law and identifies the immediate initiatives you are taking to eliminate laws, policies and practices that impede federal immigration enforcement.
Bondi cites an executive order issued by Donald Trump on 28 April which called for the attorney general to identify jurisdictions that obstruct the enforcement of Federal immigration laws then to notify each sanctuary jurisdiction regarding its defiance of Federal immigration law enforcement and any potential violations of Federal criminal law as a precursor to prosecution or withholding grants.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/aug/14/pam-bondi-sanctuary-cities-letter-immigration

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CARRRNE_ASADA
08/22/25 9:17:27 PM
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Boston is like a clean NYC. Hes just deliberately targeting liberal cities to make an example of.

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ToadallyAwesome
08/22/25 9:20:05 PM
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Biofighter55 posted...
apparently those incentives were for returning ex employees

new people dont get the $50k

Its like if the organization is handing out badges to guys like Dean Cain you know things arent going well. Hes gotta be pushing 60.

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Cory898
08/22/25 9:22:11 PM
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Takuya_Lee posted...
They don't. ICE is having recruitment issues even with the incentives they're offering.
Like student loan forgiveness? To be fair, most of the poorly educated dont have student loans.

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sfcalimari
08/22/25 9:30:50 PM
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Accolon posted...
Do you think Trump would institute a draft to forcibly fill out the ranks of ICE?

That worked out great when they drafted teenagers to fight the demonized Vietnamese. I'm sure deploying them against fellow Americans will work.

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Trumpo
08/22/25 9:36:50 PM
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Damn it

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UnsteadyOwl
08/22/25 9:38:25 PM
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Boston is one of the safest major cities in the country. This ICE director going on about a "public safety crisis" is full of shit.

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Hexenherz
08/22/25 9:50:35 PM
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Tbh I thought they meant literally flood because this administration is about doing dumb crazy shit to hurt Americans

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Red_XIV
08/22/25 9:52:56 PM
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Boston should respond by arresting all of the ICE agents.

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Accolon
08/22/25 10:05:26 PM
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sfcalimari posted...
That worked out great when they drafted teenagers to fight the demonized Vietnamese. I'm sure deploying them against fellow Americans will work.

Trump isn't known for his sound decision making. I'm thinking right now he's offering the carrot, if that doesn't work, the stick is next.

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Takuya_Lee
08/22/25 10:07:08 PM
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Accolon posted...
Trump isn't known for his sound decision making. I'm thinking right now he's offering the carrot, if that doesn't work, the stick is next.

Is it really a stick if no one sees or feels it?

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Biofighter55
08/22/25 10:22:27 PM
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CobraGT posted...
Back in April there was an EO which is now cited. I thought executive orders were emergency orders and at most active for 90 days.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/aug/14/pam-bondi-sanctuary-cities-letter-immigration

we actually still had some executive orders active from the 70s I think until
trump discontinued them

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WesternMedia
08/24/25 11:30:21 PM
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Flood with calls and mails for them to comply!

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Sayoria
08/24/25 11:42:53 PM
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I love Mayor Wu. She's a strong mayor. She's been on our side and has not been afraid to stand up for us. We are a very, very active city. It won't go over very well.

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kingdrake2
08/24/25 11:54:45 PM
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UnsteadyOwl posted...
Boston is one of the safest major cities in the country.


it's more of a repeat what was done to washington. but i agree.

they're going to move the homeless out of there and target illegals. at least the mayor isn't backing down (can't give em the satisfaction).

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darkknight109
08/25/25 3:02:16 AM
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CobraGT posted...
I thought executive orders were emergency orders and at most active for 90 days.
Nope. Executive orders are exactly what they sound like - an order to the executive branch from the man in charge of them. They remain standing and in force until one of the following happens:
1) An expiration date or condition within the order itself triggers.
2) A court invalidates it as unconstitutional.
3) The president rescinds it.

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02fran
08/26/25 10:19:22 PM
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Sayoria posted...
I love Mayor Wu. She's a strong mayor. She's been on our side and has not been afraid to stand up for us. We are a very, very active city. It won't go over very well.

She's amazing.
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Red_XIV
08/30/25 1:01:43 PM
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Accolon posted...
Do you think Trump would institute a draft to forcibly fill out the ranks of ICE?
I'm sure that would totally work out well. Drafting a bunch of people into ICE who have zero interest in actually doing the Gestapo mission.

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divot1338
08/30/25 1:35:07 PM
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-RandomFalco- posted...
There's no way they have the capacity to do this sort of shit country wide, right? I know this is a dry run for what they can get away with, but this isn't a country the size of Germany. Scaling it out to stretch across the whole country would surely dilute them and make them ineffective.
They dont even have the capacity to do it in Chicago.

The only reason for this is theyre hoping someone shoots at the troops and gives them a justification to institute martial law.

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monkmith
08/30/25 1:44:19 PM
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-RandomFalco- posted...
There's no way they have the capacity to do this sort of shit country wide, right? I know this is a dry run for what they can get away with, but this isn't a country the size of Germany. Scaling it out to stretch across the whole country would surely dilute them and make them ineffective.
give them time. they're hiring any racist willing to put on a bulletproof vest and shit all over civil rights.

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Takuya_Lee
08/30/25 1:46:49 PM
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monkmith posted...
give them time. they're hiring any racist willing to put on a bulletproof vest and shit all over civil rights.

Not hiring enough though. The resources simply aren't there for it long term.

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MaxEffingBemis
08/30/25 1:50:17 PM
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I know this is a week old topic but what is the governor of Massachusetts doing? Letting the mayor of Boston do this on her own? She needs support from the state

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monkmith
08/30/25 2:21:09 PM
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Takuya_Lee posted...
Not hiring enough though. The resources simply aren't there for it long term.
who controls the budget though? congress technically, but seeing that they're controlled by the republican party and republicans are constantly censored trump in practice trump controls the budget. so there's no real reason why he cant just keep increasing it to keep building up his gestapo.

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StopBeinMad
09/03/25 6:02:26 AM
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Seems like she's still doing alright? Queen.
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Takuya_Lee
09/03/25 6:43:54 AM
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monkmith posted...
who controls the budget though? congress technically, but seeing that they're controlled by the republican party and republicans are constantly censored trump in practice trump controls the budget. so there's no real reason why he cant just keep increasing it to keep building up his gestapo.

And they'll burn thru even an increased budget quickly. Also resources isn't just about money. It's manpower too and ICE is having. Lot of difficulty recruiting. Turns out no one likes them.

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Dissident_77
09/03/25 7:16:07 AM
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Biofighter55 posted...
new people dont get the $50k
That was the HIGH pay? Jeez

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tankboy
09/03/25 8:44:57 AM
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They'll just get lost immediately.
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UnfairRepresent
09/06/25 8:01:09 AM
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