Current Events > Dad fires blindly at a buzzard and kills his 14yo daughter

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WesternMedia 09/05/25 5:41:58 PM #1:	https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/dad-trying-to-avoid-potential-ricochet-fires-blindly-at -a-buzzard-and-kills-his-14-year-old-daughter-police-say/ar-AA1LSXgU *An Illinois man was charged with a felony after police said he shot his 14-year-old daughter while trying to kill a buzzard.* According to the Monroe County Sheriff's Department, 34-year-old David Schultheis surrendered to police after a warrant was issued for his arrest on a charge of reckless discharge of a firearm. An investigation into the July 21 shooting death of his daughter, 14-year-old Emma Schultheis, determined that he was using a handgun to take down a buzzard that had entered a brick office building in Waterloo, Illinois. *Police said Schultheis fired at the bird without looking.* "Schultheis inserted only his arm into the room keeping his head outside the doorway to avoid potential ricochet before pulling the trigger," the police statement said. The bullet allegedly "struck the bird, passed through it, exited the building through a window, and ultimately struck his daughter, Emma Schultheis, who was outside." When police arrived at the scene at 1:34 p.m. on July 21, they found Emma with gunshot wounds and brought her to the hospital. She was pronounced dead despite life-saving efforts by medical staff. She would have turned 15 years old in less than a week. Police also determined that 58-year-old Karen Schwarze apparently attempted to conceal Emma's death as well as the Taurus .40 caliber pistol that Schultheis used when he allegedly shot his daughter. She also attempted to "influence others not to speak with law enforcement officers during the early stages of the investigation," police said. Schwarze's relationship with Schultheis was not made clear by authorities. Police said that Schultheis turned himself in to the police and was released after being booked on one count of reckless discharge of a firearm. Monroe County Sheriff Neal Rohlfing told the Bellville News-Democrat that authorities did not petition the court for pretrial detention. Schultheis was scheduled to make his first appearance in court on Thursday. *Schwarze was also expected to surrender to authorities "in the near future" after she was charged with concealment of a homicidal death and obstruction of justice.* *Sheriff Rohlfing told the Bellville News-Democrat that the shooting was "not intentional," adding, "We feel terrible for the family and friends."* https://theonion.com/no-way-to-prevent-this-says-only-nation-where-this-r-1848971668/ --- Cherish me <cite>WesternMedia posted [p:986313205] in Dad fires ... [t:81037007]...</cite> <quote>https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/dad-trying-to-avoid-potential-ricochet-fires-blindly-at-a-buzzard-and-kills-his-14-year-old-daughter-police-say/ar-AA1LSXgUAn Illinois man was charged with a felony after police said he shot his 14-year-old daughter while trying to kill a buzzard.According to the Monroe County Sheriff's Department, 34-year-old David Schultheis surrendered to police after a warrant was issued for his arrest on a charge of reckless discharge of a firearm. An investigation into the July 21 shooting death of his daughter, 14-year-old Emma Schultheis, determined that he was using a handgun to take down a buzzard that had entered a brick office building in Waterloo, Illinois.Police said Schultheis fired at the bird without looking."Schultheis inserted only his arm into the room keeping his head outside the doorway to avoid potential ricochet before pulling the trigger," the police statement said. The bullet allegedly "struck the bird, passed through it, exited the building through a window, and ultimately struck his daughter, Emma Schultheis, who was outside."When police arrived at the scene at 1:34 p.m. on July 21, they found Emma with gunshot wounds and brought her to the hospital. She was pronounced dead despite life-saving efforts by medical staff. She would have turned 15 years old in less than a week.Police also determined that 58-year-old Karen Schwarze apparently attempted to conceal Emma's death as well as the Taurus .40 caliber pistol that Schultheis used when he allegedly shot his daughter. She also attempted to "influence others not to speak with law enforcement officers during the early stages of the investigation," police said. Schwarze's relationship with Schultheis was not made clear by authorities.Police said that Schultheis turned himself in to the police and was released after being booked on one count of reckless discharge of a firearm. Monroe County Sheriff Neal Rohlfing told the Bellville News-Democrat that authorities did not petition the court for pretrial detention. Schultheis was scheduled to make his first appearance in court on Thursday.Schwarze was also expected to surrender to authorities "in the near future" after she was charged with concealment of a homicidal death and obstruction of justice.Sheriff Rohlfing told the Bellville News-Democrat that the shooting was "not intentional," adding, "We feel terrible for the family and friends."https://theonion.com/no-way-to-prevent-this-says-only-nation-where-this-r-1848971668/</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CableZL 09/05/25 5:43:07 PM #2:	Just an FYI, if you split the long URL into two or more lines, you can still copy and paste it in the URL bar. That way, people don't have to search for the space to remove. On topic: I really don't mind that people use gun for self defense or hunting, but I feel like we've shown that we aren't responsible enough as a society to have them overall. --- https://i.imgtc.com/d9Fc4Qq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/BKHTxYq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/vYYIuDx.jpg <cite>CableZL posted [p:986313214] in Dad fires ... [t:81037007]...</cite> <quote>Just an FYI, if you split the long URL into two or more lines, you can still copy and paste it in the URL bar. That way, people don't have to search for the space to remove.On topic: I really don't mind that people use gun for self defense or hunting, but I feel like we've shown that we aren't responsible enough as a society to have them overall. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WesternMedia 09/05/25 5:43:56 PM #3:	CableZL posted... Just an FYI, if you split the long URL into two or more lines, you can still copy and paste it in the URL bar. That way, people don't have to search for the space to remove. Thanks for heads up --- Cherish me <cite>WesternMedia posted [p:986313224] in Dad fires ... [t:81037007]...</cite> <quote>CableZL posted... </cite><quote>Just an FYI, if you split the long URL into two or more lines, you can still copy and paste it in the URL bar. That way, people don't have to search for the space to remove.</quote>Thanks for heads up</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
havean776 09/05/25 5:45:54 PM #4:	The dad is a real piece of shit looking over his tweets. --- "I will either find a way, or make one." Hannibal Barca <cite>havean776 posted [p:986313239] in Dad fires ... [t:81037007]...</cite> <quote>The dad is a real piece of shit looking over his tweets.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
solosnake 09/05/25 5:47:07 PM #5:	no manslaughter charge? --- "We would have no NBA possibly if they got rid of all the flopping." ~ Dwyane Wade <cite>solosnake posted [p:986313252] in Dad fires ... [t:81037007]...</cite> <quote>no manslaughter charge?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WesternMedia 09/05/25 5:51:27 PM #6:	havean776 posted... The dad is a real piece of shit looking over his tweets. What is it? I looked it up and the ones I see don't seem to be a 34 year old from Illinois. --- Cherish me <cite>WesternMedia posted [p:986313290] in Dad fires ... [t:81037007]...</cite> <quote>havean776 posted... </cite><quote>The dad is a real piece of shit looking over his tweets.</quote>What is it? I looked it up and the ones I see don't seem to be a 34 year old from Illinois.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ReturnOfDevsman 09/05/25 5:53:24 PM #7:	Let me guess. There were no other witnesses. --- Arguing on CE be all like: https://youtu.be/JpRKrs67lOs?si=kPGA2RCKVHTdbVrJ <cite>ReturnOfDevsman posted [p:986313308] in Dad fires ... [t:81037007]...</cite> <quote>Let me guess. There were no other witnesses.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Takuya_Lee 09/05/25 5:53:37 PM #8:	When I first read the topic title, I read buzzard as blizzard. As for the father, I hope he gets the book thrown at him and is haunted by this. --- Narutaki was right. This is all Decade's fault. <cite>Takuya_Lee posted [p:986313310] in Dad fires ... [t:81037007]...</cite> <quote>When I first read the topic title, I read buzzard as blizzard.As for the father, I hope he gets the book thrown at him and is haunted by this.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bass 09/05/25 5:58:12 PM #10:	solosnake posted... no manslaughter charge? Yeah, definitely feels like the dumbass needs a harder charge than they're pursuing. --- Many Bothans died to bring you this post. <cite>Bass posted [p:986313357] in Dad fires ... [t:81037007]...</cite> <quote>solosnake posted... </cite><quote>no manslaughter charge?</quote>Yeah, definitely feels like the dumbass needs a harder charge than they're pursuing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bfslick50 09/05/25 6:01:19 PM #11:	Irresponsible jackass. Poor girl. --- "Something's wrong! Murder isn't working and that's all we're good at." ~Futurama <cite>bfslick50 posted [p:986313393] in Dad fires ... [t:81037007]...</cite> <quote>Irresponsible jackass. Poor girl.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NoxObscuras 09/05/25 6:01:28 PM #12:	WesternMedia posted... Thanks for heads up Also FYI, a lot of news articles don't actually need the text description for the link to work. Can avoid the line break entirely https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/ar-AA1LSXgU --- Steam/Xbox/PSN = NoxObscuras <cite>NoxObscuras posted [p:986313394] in Dad fires ... [t:81037007]...</cite> <quote>WesternMedia posted... </cite><quote>Thanks for heads up</quote>Also FYI, a lot of news articles don't actually need the text description for the link to work. Can avoid the line break entirelyhttps://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/ar-AA1LSXgU</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HighSeraph 09/05/25 6:03:23 PM #13:	Probably blames the buzzard or Biden --- She's like a cat in the dark. She/Her <cite>HighSeraph posted [p:986313413] in Dad fires ... [t:81037007]...</cite> <quote>Probably blames the buzzard or Biden</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TMOG 09/05/25 6:04:22 PM #14:	Takuya_Lee posted... When I first read the topic title, I read buzzard as blizzard. Oh good, it wasn't just me. Firing at weather to try and kill it is probably the only way this guy could have been a dumber piece of shit. --- Check out my daily Pokemon drawings https://bsky.app/profile/runomai.bsky.social <cite>TMOG posted [p:986313423] in Dad fires ... [t:81037007]...</cite> <quote>Takuya_Lee posted... </cite><quote>When I first read the topic title, I read buzzard as blizzard.</quote>Oh good, it wasn't just me. Firing at weather to try and kill it is probably the only way this guy could have been a dumber piece of shit.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kaitouace 09/05/25 6:04:24 PM #15:	Holy shit. RIP to the girl. --- "They will never let a Black man be Captain America. And even if they did, no self-respecting Black man would ever wanna be." - Isaiah Bradley <cite>Kaitouace posted [p:986313424] in Dad fires ... [t:81037007]...</cite> <quote>Holy shit. RIP to the girl.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bluezero 09/05/25 6:04:35 PM #16:	Good lord --- 7800X3D - 7900 XTX - 32GB 6000 - 1440p Ultrawide <cite>bluezero posted [p:986313426] in Dad fires ... [t:81037007]...</cite> <quote>Good lord</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Deteled 09/05/25 6:12:07 PM #18:	Oh misread as blizzard Still stupid <cite>Deteled posted [p:986313496] in Dad fires ... [t:81037007]...</cite> <quote>Oh misread as blizzard Still stupid</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ai123 09/05/25 6:29:56 PM #19:	RIP to another victim of gun culture. --- 'Vinyl is the poor man's art collection'. Let in the refugees, deport the racists. <cite>ai123 posted [p:986313651] in Dad fires ... [t:81037007]...</cite> <quote>RIP to another victim of gun culture.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
orcus_snake 09/05/25 6:41:41 PM #20:	Evrything seemed like a freak accident but then the mom went fucking nuts. --- "Warwick are you jungling" "No I'm standing by the wolves because I miss my family" <cite>orcus_snake posted [p:986313778] in Dad fires ... [t:81037007]...</cite> <quote>Evrything seemed like a freak accident but then the mom went fucking nuts.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
suchiuomizu 09/05/25 6:59:16 PM #21:	orcus_snake posted... Evrything seemed like a freak accident but then the mom went fucking nuts. If you mean the woman that was trying to hide stuff, that does not appear to be the mother. The article though says it was not made clear what connection she had to them. --- WTF DUH I DUH <cite>suchiuomizu posted [p:986313926] in Dad fires ... [t:81037007]...</cite> <quote>orcus_snake posted... </cite><quote>Evrything seemed like a freak accident but then the mom went fucking nuts.</quote>If you mean the woman that was trying to hide stuff, that does not appear to be the mother. The article though says it was not made clear what connection she had to them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AgentCoulson 09/05/25 7:02:39 PM #22:	Takuya_Lee posted... When I first read the topic title, I read buzzard as blizzard. Deteled posted... Oh misread as blizzard Still stupid Huh. I did too. And I'm only just not realizing you're not named "Deleted." --- I haven't set a signature for the message boards yet <cite>AgentCoulson posted [p:986313963] in Dad fires ... [t:81037007]...</cite> <quote>Takuya_Lee posted... </cite><quote>When I first read the topic title, I read buzzard as blizzard.</quote>Deteled posted... </cite><quote>Oh misread as blizzard Still stupid</quote>Huh. I did too. And I'm only just not realizing you're not named "Deleted."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mistere_Man 09/05/25 7:18:51 PM #23:	Takuya_Lee posted... When I first read the topic title, I read buzzard as blizzard. As for the father, I hope he gets the book thrown at him and is haunted by this. Deteled posted... Oh misread as blizzard Still stupid Same, i was wondering why he was shooting a blizzard. Still very sad story. --- Water+Fall=Radiation. <cite>Mistere_Man posted [p:986314108] in Dad fires ... [t:81037007]...</cite> <quote>Takuya_Lee posted... </cite><quote>When I first read the topic title, I read buzzard as blizzard.As for the father, I hope he gets the book thrown at him and is haunted by this.</quote>Deteled posted... </cite><quote>Oh misread as blizzard Still stupid</quote>Same, i was wondering why he was shooting a blizzard. Still very sad story.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
orcus_snake 09/05/25 7:23:04 PM #24:	True, I thought I read that she was at first which made me confused when I read the line that the relationship was unclear. --- "Warwick are you jungling" "No I'm standing by the wolves because I miss my family" <cite>orcus_snake posted [p:986314136] in Dad fires ... [t:81037007]...</cite> <quote>True, I thought I read that she was at first which made me confused when I read the line that the relationship was unclear.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Philip027 09/05/25 7:52:45 PM #25:	This guy managed to hit his daughter who was outside the house multiple times (since there were "gunshot wounds", as in plural) while trying to shoot a bird that was inside? What the hell was he using, a gatling gun? <cite>Philip027 posted [p:986314391] in Dad fires ... [t:81037007]...</cite> <quote>This guy managed to hit his daughter who was outside the house multiple times (since there were "gunshot wounds", as in plural) while trying to shoot a bird that was inside?What the hell was he using, a gatling gun?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hexenherz 09/05/25 8:16:39 PM #26:	I'm so confused by this whole set up. The bird entered an office building. He actually hit and killed it but the bullet exited the office building and his daughter just happened to be outside? I don't get why anyone was where they were or why he decided he needed to shoot a bird with a pistol --- RS3: UltimaSuende - CE Thread Zone https://letterboxd.com/BMovieBro/ <cite>Hexenherz posted [p:986314654] in Dad fires ... [t:81037007]...</cite> <quote>I'm so confused by this whole set up. The bird entered an office building. He actually hit and killed it but the bullet exited the office building and his daughter just happened to be outside? I don't get why anyone was where they were or why he decided he needed to shoot a bird with a pistol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
divot1338 09/05/25 8:19:26 PM #27:	Bass posted... Yeah, definitely feels like the dumbass needs a harder charge than they're pursuing. Youd have to prove he intended to kill her and that is not happening. --- Moustache twirling villain https://i.imgur.com/U3lt3H4.jpg- Kerbey <cite>divot1338 posted [p:986314694] in Dad fires ... [t:81037007]...</cite> <quote>Bass posted... </cite><quote>Yeah, definitely feels like the dumbass needs a harder charge than they're pursuing.</quote>Youd have to prove he intended to kill her and that is not happening.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JoeDangIt 09/05/25 8:23:48 PM #28:	Just another example of why people shouldn't have guns. <cite>JoeDangIt posted [p:986314741] in Dad fires ... [t:81037007]...</cite> <quote>Just another example of why people shouldn't have guns.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
monkmith 09/05/25 8:26:05 PM #29:	so uh, buzzards aren't really aggressive, why would you even try to shoot it? honestly without the dead bird i'd say it was a bullshit story to cover up intentional murder. really i'd still lean towards that even with the bird. --- Taarsidath-an halsaam. Quando il gioco e finito, il re e il pedone vanno nella stessa scatola <cite>monkmith posted [p:986314761] in Dad fires ... [t:81037007]...</cite> <quote>so uh, buzzards aren't really aggressive, why would you even try to shoot it?honestly without the dead bird i'd say it was a bullshit story to cover up intentional murder. really i'd still lean towards that even with the bird.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
viewmaster_pi 09/05/25 9:20:26 PM #30:	so a bird flies into the building, and this dude's first instinct is to go rambo on it? was he scared of it? this is the kind of shit that happens when people don't give a shit about nature or educating themselves, or being rational. but by all means, let's sell them guns and see what happens --- We will leave this place an empty stone <cite>viewmaster_pi posted [p:986315326] in Dad fires ... [t:81037007]...</cite> <quote>so a bird flies into the building, and this dude's first instinct is to go rambo on it? was he scared of it? this is the kind of shit that happens when people don't give a shit about nature or educating themselves, or being rational. but by all means, let's sell them guns and see what happens</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StarFighters76 09/05/25 9:28:32 PM #31:	TMOG posted... Oh good, it wasn't just me. Firing at weather to try and kill it is probably the only way this guy could have been a dumber piece of shit. Well, we definitely know who he voted for lol. --- 1,000 maps on 04/12/2010! -- 2,000 maps on 04/15/2016! -- 3,000 maps on 11/19/2019! -- 4,000 maps on 02/10/2023! <cite>StarFighters76 posted [p:986315418] in Dad fires ... [t:81037007]...</cite> <quote>TMOG posted... </cite><quote>Oh good, it wasn't just me. Firing at weather to try and kill it is probably the only way this guy could have been a dumber piece of shit.</quote>Well, we definitely know who he voted for lol.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thronedfire2 09/05/25 9:30:56 PM #32:	monkmith posted... so uh, buzzards aren't really aggressive, why would you even try to shoot it? honestly without the dead bird i'd say it was a bullshit story to cover up intentional murder. really i'd still lean towards that even with the bird. because he's an idiot --- I could see you, but I couldn't hear you You were holding your hat in the breeze Turning away from me In this moment you were stolen... <cite>thronedfire2 posted [p:986315454] in Dad fires ... [t:81037007]...</cite> <quote>monkmith posted... </cite><quote>so uh, buzzards aren't really aggressive, why would you even try to shoot it?honestly without the dead bird i'd say it was a bullshit story to cover up intentional murder. really i'd still lean towards that even with the bird.</quote>because he's an idiot</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
rick_alverado 09/05/25 9:34:17 PM #33:	Hexenherz posted... I'm so confused by this whole set up. The bird entered an office building. He actually hit and killed it but the bullet exited the office building and his daughter just happened to be outside? I don't get why anyone was where they were or why he decided he needed to shoot a bird with a pistol Yeah, there's a lot of things I'm wondering about here. <cite>rick_alverado posted [p:986315505] in Dad fires ... [t:81037007]...</cite> <quote>Hexenherz posted... </cite><quote>I'm so confused by this whole set up. The bird entered an office building. He actually hit and killed it but the bullet exited the office building and his daughter just happened to be outside? I don't get why anyone was where they were or why he decided he needed to shoot a bird with a pistol</quote>Yeah, there's a lot of things I'm wondering about here.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
A_Good_Boy 09/05/25 9:36:47 PM #34:	Why was he even blind firing at a buzzard in the first place? Other than the possibility it was in the middle of chanting a magical spell they're not exactly known to be dangerous birds. --- Who is? I am! <cite>A_Good_Boy posted [p:986315520] in Dad fires ... [t:81037007]...</cite> <quote>Why was he even blind firing at a buzzard in the first place? Other than the possibility it was in the middle of chanting a magical spell they're not exactly known to be dangerous birds. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Umbreon 09/05/25 9:43:41 PM #35:	RIP to the victim. --- Black Lives Matter. ~DYL~ (On mobile) <cite>Umbreon posted [p:986315608] in Dad fires ... [t:81037007]...</cite> <quote>RIP to the victim. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Red_XIV 09/05/25 9:48:21 PM #36:	divot1338 posted... Youd have to prove he intended to kill her and that is not happening. No, you wouldn't. There's certainly more than just "reckless discharge of a firearm" that he could be charged with that don't require intent to kill. Negligent homicide, for example. That doesn't require intent to kill, it only requires doing something that you know could cause a death. Like firing unaimed gunshots without any knowledge of who might be in their path. --- "We will end our resilience for bad things." "We have pioneered the fatality rate." More brilliant insights from Donald Chump <cite>Red_XIV posted [p:986315673] in Dad fires ... [t:81037007]...</cite> <quote>divot1338 posted... </cite><quote>Youd have to prove he intended to kill her and that is not happening.</quote>No, you wouldn't. There's certainly more than just "reckless discharge of a firearm" that he could be charged with that don't require intent to kill. Negligent homicide, for example. That doesn't require intent to kill, it only requires doing something that you know could cause a death. Like firing unaimed gunshots without any knowledge of who might be in their path.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumble 09/05/25 9:54:55 PM #37:	divot1338 posted... Youd have to prove he intended to kill her and that is not happening. Youre thinking of murder. Manslaughter charges can be applied when recklessness is the cause. --- (2025-02-24) Not changing my sig until I feel like it. <cite>Trumble posted [p:986315767] in Dad fires ... [t:81037007]...</cite> <quote>divot1338 posted... </cite><quote>Youd have to prove he intended to kill her and that is not happening.</quote>Youre thinking of murder. Manslaughter charges can be applied when recklessness is the cause.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NoxObscuras 09/05/25 10:13:32 PM #38:	suchiuomizu posted... If you mean the woman that was trying to hide stuff, that does not appear to be the mother. The article though says it was not made clear what connection she had to them. Yeah, I looked into it a bit more. The mom is Amanda Schultheis, who wasn't at the scene. Karen Schwarze, and her husband, own Schwarze Trailer Repair, where the shooting happened. No idea why the business owner was trying to cover it up though. No motive for that yet. --- Steam/Xbox/PSN = NoxObscuras <cite>NoxObscuras posted [p:986315951] in Dad fires ... [t:81037007]...</cite> <quote>suchiuomizu posted... </cite><quote>If you mean the woman that was trying to hide stuff, that does not appear to be the mother. The article though says it was not made clear what connection she had to them.</quote>Yeah, I looked into it a bit more. The mom is Amanda Schultheis, who wasn't at the scene. Karen Schwarze, and her husband, own Schwarze Trailer Repair, where the shooting happened. No idea why the business owner was trying to cover it up though. No motive for that yet.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumble 09/06/25 12:33:52 AM #39:	NoxObscuras posted... Yeah, I looked into it a bit more. The mom is Amanda Schultheis, who wasn't at the scene. Karen Schwarze, and her husband, own Schwarze Trailer Repair, where the shooting happened. No idea why the business owner was trying to cover it up though. No motive for that yet. Even if it wasnt directly his fault, it wouldnt be good for business if word got out that it happened there. Which then backfired, because fatal reckless accident happened and then was attempted covered up is even worse than just fatal reckless accident happened. --- (2025-02-24) Not changing my sig until I feel like it. <cite>Trumble posted [p:986316990] in Dad fires ... [t:81037007]...</cite> <quote>NoxObscuras posted... </cite><quote>Yeah, I looked into it a bit more. The mom is Amanda Schultheis, who wasn't at the scene. Karen Schwarze, and her husband, own Schwarze Trailer Repair, where the shooting happened. No idea why the business owner was trying to cover it up though. No motive for that yet.</quote>Even if it wasnt directly his fault, it wouldnt be good for business if word got out that it happened there.Which then backfired, because fatal reckless accident happened and then was attempted covered up is even worse than just fatal reckless accident happened.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HeeathLivesOn 09/06/25 1:39:00 AM #40:	Deteled posted... Oh misread as blizzard Still stupid --- 'Just sitting around the house tonight w my dog. Felt like I should be doing something important, but couldn't put my finger on it.' - Phil Kessel on USA snub <cite>HeeathLivesOn posted [p:986317403] in Dad fires ... [t:81037007]...</cite> <quote>Deteled posted... </cite><quote>Oh misread as blizzard Still stupid</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 09/06/25 1:49:06 AM #41:	It might not be murder, but it should be punished just as harshly as murder would be <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:986317473] in Dad fires ... [t:81037007]...</cite> <quote>It might not be murder, but it should be punished just as harshly as murder would be </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MarshMellow 09/06/25 2:02:23 AM #42:	So he's just shooting buzzards in random brick buildings? I wouldn't be surprised if this isn't 1st degree murder. Too much suspect in that story. <cite>MarshMellow posted [p:986317529] in Dad fires ... [t:81037007]...</cite> <quote>So he's just shooting buzzards in random brick buildings?I wouldn't be surprised if this isn't 1st degree murder. Too much suspect in that story. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ToadallyAwesome 09/06/25 2:30:39 AM #43:	Red_XIV posted... No, you wouldn't. There's certainly more than just "reckless discharge of a firearm" that he could be charged with that don't require intent to kill. Negligent homicide, for example. That doesn't require intent to kill, it only requires doing something that you know could cause a death. Like firing unaimed gunshots without any knowledge of who might be in their path. Im with this guy. He blindly pulled the trigger for fear of ricochet of himself. At a buzzard? There are so many things wrong with this train of thought its Tokyo drifting all over the tracks. He shouldnt have even tried to do anything. He isnt animal control. He was trying to be a hero when one wasnt needed and accidentally caused a massive tragedy. --- http://imgur.com/QKdxwuI <cite>ToadallyAwesome posted [p:986317642] in Dad fires ... [t:81037007]...</cite> <quote>Red_XIV posted... </cite><quote>No, you wouldn't. There's certainly more than just "reckless discharge of a firearm" that he could be charged with that don't require intent to kill. Negligent homicide, for example. That doesn't require intent to kill, it only requires doing something that you know could cause a death. Like firing unaimed gunshots without any knowledge of who might be in their path.</quote>Im with this guy. He blindly pulled the trigger for fear of ricochet of himself. At a buzzard? There are so many things wrong with this train of thought its Tokyo drifting all over the tracks.He shouldnt have even tried to do anything. He isnt animal control. He was trying to be a hero when one wasnt needed and accidentally caused a massive tragedy. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wanderingshade 09/06/25 2:43:42 AM #44:	Was he firing .40cal rounds at a bird indoors? Jesus. Barely even need 9mm bullets for a bird, even if it was a Buzzard. But in any case, they should have just called animal control. --- "You're made of spare parts, aren't ya, bud?" <cite>wanderingshade posted [p:986317690] in Dad fires ... [t:81037007]...</cite> <quote>Was he firing .40cal rounds at a bird indoors? Jesus. Barely even need 9mm bullets for a bird, even if it was a Buzzard. But in any case, they should have just called animal control.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Uta 09/06/25 2:54:00 AM #45:	Red_XIV posted... No, you wouldn't. There's certainly more than just "reckless discharge of a firearm" that he could be charged with that don't require intent to kill. Negligent homicide, for example. That doesn't require intent to kill, it only requires doing something that you know could cause a death. Like firing unaimed gunshots without any knowledge of who might be in their path. Old coworker of mine accidentally shot his best friend in the face while drunkenly playing with a .45 cal. (he claims is friend was the one playing with the gun, and that he tried to take it from him) Was charged with murder (even more context, he was well known to be a violent drunk, so the courts doubted his testimony) but convicted of involuntary manslaughter. As well as a few other related crimes. --- She / Her Others don't get to dictate what's normal and what isn't. It's something we decide for ourselves. <cite>Uta posted [p:986317720] in Dad fires ... [t:81037007]...</cite> <quote>Red_XIV posted... </cite><quote>No, you wouldn't. There's certainly more than just "reckless discharge of a firearm" that he could be charged with that don't require intent to kill. Negligent homicide, for example. That doesn't require intent to kill, it only requires doing something that you know could cause a death. Like firing unaimed gunshots without any knowledge of who might be in their path.</quote>Old coworker of mine accidentally shot his best friend in the face while drunkenly playing with a .45 cal. (he claims is friend was the one playing with the gun, and that he tried to take it from him) Was charged with murder (even more context, he was well known to be a violent drunk, so the courts doubted his testimony) but convicted of involuntary manslaughter. As well as a few other related crimes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Thompson 09/06/25 3:43:33 AM #46:	Can someone explain what could have possibly compelled him to shoot at a random bird, that was inside a brick building no less? When is see a bird just doing whatever normal thing a bird does, the thought of shooting it dead is so far down the list... Like, it's somewhere at the level of talking to it about the works of Hungarian 18th century poets in Tagalogand I neither know any works of 18th century Hungarian poets nor can I speak Tagalog. --- Sigs are rather pointless, except if it's to showcase animation and images. <cite>Thompson posted [p:986317898] in Dad fires ... [t:81037007]...</cite> <quote>Can someone explain what could have possibly compelled him to shoot at a random bird, that was inside a brick building no less? When is see a bird just doing whatever normal thing a bird does, the thought of shooting it dead is so far down the list... Like, it's somewhere at the level of talking to it about the works of Hungarian 18th century poets in Tagalogand I neither know any works of 18th century Hungarian poets nor can I speak Tagalog.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AurochSpirit 09/06/25 4:45:39 AM #47:	RIP Emma. What a waste. <cite>AurochSpirit posted [p:986318070] in Dad fires ... [t:81037007]...</cite> <quote>RIP Emma. What a waste.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
party_animal07 09/06/25 7:49:49 AM #48:	I didn't even know there were buzzards in the Midwest. --- https://warpzone.me/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/GRANDIA_-696x509.jpg <cite>party_animal07 posted [p:986318608] in Dad fires ... [t:81037007]...</cite> <quote>I didn't even know there were buzzards in the Midwest. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ivynn 09/06/25 8:00:12 AM #49:	Takuya_Lee posted... When I first read the topic title, I read buzzard as blizzard. Same. --- http://i.imgur.com/vDci4hD.gif <cite>Ivynn posted [p:986318645] in Dad fires ... [t:81037007]...</cite> <quote>Takuya_Lee posted... </cite><quote>When I first read the topic title, I read buzzard as blizzard.</quote>Same.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wanderingshade 09/06/25 10:51:37 AM #50:	party_animal07 posted... I didn't even know there were buzzards in the Midwest. I know for sure we have Turkey Vultures but that's a completely different bird. But then "Buzzard" seems like a shitty identifier because in the Western hemisphere buzzards are called hawks but in the Eastern hemisphere they're called buzzards. So I'm not even sure if the bird he shot at was a Condor, a Hawk or what the hell it was. --- "You're made of spare parts, aren't ya, bud?" <cite>wanderingshade posted [p:986319612] in Dad fires ... [t:81037007]...</cite> <quote>party_animal07 posted... </cite><quote>I didn't even know there were buzzards in the Midwest.</quote>I know for sure we have Turkey Vultures but that's a completely different bird. But then "Buzzard" seems like a shitty identifier because in the Western hemisphere buzzards are called hawks but in the Eastern hemisphere they're called buzzards. So I'm not even sure if the bird he shot at was a Condor, a Hawk or what the hell it was.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wackyteen 09/06/25 10:58:55 AM #51:	If this had been played straight as an accident without any kind of 'cover up' by the business owner, I'd say the loss of his daughter is more than enough punishment for his dumb actions. The actions surrounding it, adds suspicion. --- The name is wackyteen for a reason. Never doubt. <cite>wackyteen posted [p:986319668] in Dad fires ... [t:81037007]...</cite> <quote>If this had been played straight as an accident without any kind of 'cover up' by the business owner, I'd say the loss of his daughter is more than enough punishment for his dumb actions. The actions surrounding it, adds suspicion. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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