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SwayM
09/11/25 1:08:19 AM
#51:


HashtagSEP posted...
You still haven't yet answered how "I want the exact same thing as a normal Switch, but I want it for $100 less" makes sense at all, yet.

Youre being obtuse as all hell.

When did I say it should also have detachable joycons and be the EXACT same size?

Oh I didnt. I said their dumbasses designed it to be slightly too small. And theres no reason for it.

Literally all they had to do was make it a little bit wider and keep the video out. Still would be a slimmer design, smaller screen and built in controls. But you think removing video out is saving them $100 a console?

Wild shit. Some of you gotta stop and read the posts you respond to.

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TMOG
09/11/25 1:14:46 AM
#52:


SwayM posted...
Oh I didnt. I said their dumbasses designed it to be slightly too small. And theres no reason for it.
It's smaller because it's made strictly as a handheld, so not only does it not need to be able to fit in a dock, but the smaller size makes it lighter and more portable so it's easier to carry around from place to place compared to a regular Switch. This isn't hard to figure out.

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HashtagSEP
09/11/25 1:19:00 AM
#54:


SwayM posted...
But you think removing video out is saving them $100 a console?

You say this, and then turn around and say "They could change nothing but the casing and charge $100 less." You're saying what they did remove isn't saving them $100, and then go on to say they should remove even less and still charge $100 less.

That's wild.

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snake_5036
09/11/25 1:24:00 AM
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SwayM posted...
Yall will just defend anything huh
Nothing in my post was defending Nintendo. I was pointing out the absurdity of acting like Nintendo forgot the dimensions of the original Switch, which are literally listed on Nintendo's site under the system's specs.

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SwayM
09/11/25 1:38:35 AM
#56:


TMOG posted...
It's smaller because it's made strictly as a handheld, so not only does it not need to be able to fit in a dock, but the smaller size makes it lighter and more portable so it's easier to carry around from place to place compared to a regular Switch. This isn't hard to figure out.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/5/53523965.jpg

Hard to say for certain but it looks like its about the width of a thumb stick too wide. Which according to google is 15 millimetres.

Yall cant wrap your head around them designing this machine 15mm too small to fit into the dock? This really isnt hard to figure out. You cant possibly think Im talking about sacrificing its slimmer form for real here.

HashtagSEP posted...
Why don't you want to accept that every single product doesn't have to be made for you? They made a cheaper handheld only option for people that didn't want to play it on their TV, and wanted a smaller, more portable device. You didn't want that, cool. Move on.

This is too funny. Im not arguing for me at all.

But dont take my word for it.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Switch/s/jupeWxofiT

People be wanting this.

I think this is hilariously hypocritical to say Im thinking just for myself and what I want when youre arguing for them and how they made a niche product for only one specific branch of their audience. For absolutely no reason mind you. You still cant even understand that removing video out isnt worth $100 a console.


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TMOG
09/11/25 2:03:07 AM
#57:


SwayM posted...
Hard to say for certain but it looks like its about the width of a thumb stick too wide. Which according to google is 15 millimetres.

Yall cant wrap your head around them designing this machine 15mm too small to fit into the dock? This really isnt hard to figure out. You cant possibly think Im talking about sacrificing its slimmer form for real here.
Read my post again. Or for the first time, whichever the case may be.

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SwayM
09/11/25 2:18:08 AM
#58:


TMOG posted...
Read my post again. Or for the first time, whichever the case may be.

This snarky ass comment I saw another poster make on this board was so funny. I cant wait to use it myself at the first available moment. Even though Ive lost the argument completely and it makes absolutely no sense here.

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HashtagSEP
09/11/25 9:40:06 AM
#59:


SwayM posted...
You still cant even understand that removing video out isnt worth $100 a console.

You keep saying this, but wanted them to keep the video out in and still keep it $100 cheaper.

How does that even make sense?

"I want them to have removed nothing, but still made it $100 cheaper."

Your entire argument is "I didn't want a cheaper handheld only model, so I can't understand why they made one for people that did."

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SwayM
09/11/25 12:08:09 PM
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HashtagSEP posted...
You keep saying this, but wanted them to keep the video out in and still keep it $100 cheaper.

How does that even make sense?

"I want them to have removed nothing, but still made it $100 cheaper."

Your entire argument is "I didn't want a cheaper handheld only model, so I can't understand why they made one for people that did."

My entire argument is really as simple as I can possibly make it for you, and how you continue to misunderstand want I'm saying is actually truly baffling.

You're not hearing me when I'm telling you that the all the features that keep its costs down will still be there. Again,
1) It would still have it's slimmer form factor, adding 15mm is basically nothing and you are wild to think otherwise.
2) It would have a smaller screen.
3)It would still have no detachable joycons. Which alone in Canada are $100 themselves

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/4/4e310f4c.jpg

So there's over $100 in savings alone and we haven't even talked about the video out. Which again, you honestly believe video out, by itself, is worth $100. Which shows me how little you understand what we're talking about here.

My entire argument is: They could have made a "Handheld only" machine out of the box that still pairs natively within their well-established ecosystem and pleased a MUCH LARGER consumer base. The handheld only crowd would still get just as much use out of it, and there being the option for people who already own a dock and all the other things to get far more use out it.

Which as all the videos, reddit threads, and people literally buying 3rd party accessories that won't even work. There's a huge market here for people wanting to dock a Switch Lite. Why can't you wrap your head around that?

For Nintendo to be this out of touch with its player base is one thing. For you to blindly defend them without really even understanding why is another.

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TMOG
09/11/25 12:17:49 PM
#61:


SwayM posted...
My entire argument is: They could have made a "Handheld only" machine out of the box that still pairs natively within their well-established ecosystem and pleased a MUCH LARGER consumer base. The handheld only crowd would still get just as much use out of it, and there being the option for people who already own a dock and all the other things to get far more use out it.
So again, you want the Switch Lite to have the exact same functionality as a regular Switch, just at a lower price point for absolutely no reason at all, because that's how reality works?

SwayM posted...
There's a huge market here for people wanting to dock a Switch Lite.
Hate to say it, but those people should have done their research and bought a regular Switch. Nintendo can't be blamed because people bought a version of the console that was clearly advertised as not being able to dock to a TV, and then people who bought it want to dock it to a TV.

Would people who specifically and deliberately bought a 2DS, a model of the system that stripped out the 3D features to make the price point lower for those who didn't want 3D, be justified in complaining that they can't view their games in 3D?

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SwayM
09/11/25 12:23:56 PM
#62:


TMOG posted...
So again, you want the Switch Lite to have the exact same functionality as a regular Switch, just at a lower price point for absolutely no reason at all, because that's how reality works?

SwayM posted...
You're not hearing me when I'm telling you that the all the features that keep its costs down will still be there. Again,
1) It would still have it's slimmer form factor, adding 15mm is basically nothing and you are wild to think otherwise.
2) It would have a smaller screen.
3)It would still have no detachable joycons. Which alone in Canada are $100 themselves


TMOG posted...
Read my post again. Or for the first time, whichever the case may be.


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TMOG
09/11/25 12:26:29 PM
#63:


So a cheaper version of the console for what essentially amounts to being a little thinner, having a slightly smaller screen, and Joy-cons that are permanently attached, but otherwise it still functions exactly like a regular Switch.

How, exactly, does this differ from buying a regular Switch and keeping the Joy-cons attached, other than you're saving money? What is the point of the Switch Lite at all at that point?

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SwayM
09/11/25 12:36:07 PM
#64:


TMOG posted...
So a cheaper version of the console for what essentially amounts to being a little thinner, having a slightly smaller screen, and Joy-cons that are permanently attached, but otherwise it still functions exactly like a regular Switch.

Yes. Wild concept I know for you Nintendo fanboys to grasp your head around. But yes. A cheaper, thinner product that's more of a handheld machine but still functions natively within the established ecosystem.

TMOG posted...
How, exactly, does this differ from buying a regular Switch and keeping the Joy-cons attached, other than you're saving money? What is the point of the Switch Lite at all at that point?

You're really asking what the point of something that has added functionality? The thing exists right now and people are buying it even though it can't connect to their docks or their TV's.

And you're asking me with a straight face why it would be better for consumers that same product to exist with better functionality...

You're asking why households who already own the docks and all the accessories would buy a another one for $100 cheaper when it would work natively with all those accessories? And not have to buy a whole new unit with accessories they may not actually need themselves. They just want the product to work with the things they already have.

What about this is so hard for you to grasp? Is your worldview really that small...


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TMOG
09/11/25 12:44:55 PM
#65:


My man, you've got an entire topic of people here telling you that your take on the Switch Lite is bad and makes no sense, and repeatedly explaining why.

At what point do you plan to start considering that maybe, just maybe, Nintendo isn't the one with a dumb idea this time?

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imagine606
09/11/25 12:48:45 PM
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I thought the DS Lite was great, but after that they removed the GBA slot.
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SwayM
09/11/25 12:56:25 PM
#67:


TMOG posted...
My man, you've got an entire topic of people here telling you that your take on the Switch Lite is bad and makes no sense, and repeatedly explaining why.

At what point do you plan to start considering that maybe, just maybe, Nintendo isn't the one with a dumb idea this time?

An entire topic? XD You and HashtagSEP think of yourselves as a whole topic of people?

Believe me I have no trouble at all telling 2 known trolls the Switch Lite was foolishly designed anyone with a modicum of common sense and consumer understanding can see that.

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ConfusedTorchic
09/11/25 12:58:25 PM
#68:


the switch lite should have been able to dock.

they could have designed a specific switch lite dock that only works for it, sell it for $50, end up making more or equal money as people buying a regular switch.

you'd have to buy the $50 dock, then you'd have to buy a controller because you can't use it while docked right

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HashtagSEP
09/11/25 3:41:59 PM
#69:


So it sounds like you just want "Cheaper Switch that doesn't come with a dock or joycons."

Why wouldn't the answer be to sell the Switch without dock and joycons, for people that want that, if there's a market? Why would the answer be to design a new device that is just the same as the existing one?

Hell, they do the former in Japan. It sounds like your problem isn't actually with the Switch Lite, you problem is with that option not existing, and you're upset the Switch Lite can't be turned into that option.

Though there is something funny about Sway calling other people trolls.

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SwayM
09/11/25 4:46:14 PM
#70:


HashtagSEP posted...
So it sounds like you just want "Cheaper Switch that doesn't come with a dock or joycons."

Believe me when I say this, y'all gotta stop with language like "it sounds like." and "so you're saying."

You have absolutely no business making assumptions and leaps of judgement from the level of misunderstanding you exhibit in these kinds of topics. Just try to comprehend the language right in front of you first. Just see if you can get that going for once.

I'm saying it should have been designed ever so slightly better so that a world of people who aren't me would get way more use out of it. I see a product that could easily satiate both the "handheld only" crowd and the "multiple switch household" crowds simultaneous. Neither of which I subscribe to. But I can easily look around and see a world that's not me and make these very, imho, common sense assertions.


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DrizztLink
09/11/25 4:58:38 PM
#71:


SwayM posted...
You have absolutely no business making assumptions and leaps of judgement from the level of misunderstanding you exhibit in these kinds of topics.
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mistymermaid
09/11/25 6:41:36 PM
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Fonts are the major flaw of the Switch Lite. Too many games lack text size or contrast options to be (comfortably) visible on a display smaller than they were originally produced for.

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SwayM
09/11/25 8:45:29 PM
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Memory is a funny thing because as you're demonstrating right now it's often quite hazy. If I didn't like the tagging user feature there wouldn't be one floating beside your username right now.

I dislike how CE will almost always derail a topic (wink) with the unbelievably incontrollable urge to audit every user you disagree with, and more often then not it's completely irrelevant to the topic at hand. My absolute favourite is when people use karma or post count. That one I think is literally insane behaviour on this board and signals to me a complete desperation that you've lost any semblance of having any argument against what they're saying.

I'll always believe in responding to someone's argument, regardless of what I think of that person. I do that in every topic I post in including this one. But that doesn't mean I won't sometimes get on y'alls level and point the occasional finger back at you too.

If you have a problem with something I've said I welcome you to challenge me on it in the appropriate topic. To call me an awful person in a discussion about why imo the Switch Lite fell short is about as "touch grass" as one can get on these boards.

But that feeling that you're expressing, having a user that you don't care for call you out. And not only you wouldn't trust them with the correct time of day, let alone what their feelings of you are. Trust that will always be mutual here. Ja feel?

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rick_alverado
09/11/25 9:25:45 PM
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There's never a good reason to use insane, or crazy, or other synonyms for mentally ill as an insult.
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SwayM
09/11/25 9:27:32 PM
#77:


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It really is that simple if they designed it that way (properly) in the first place. Which is what I've been saying since the jump.

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Nintendo left a notch on the Lite that indicates dock connectivity. I joked they are just inept at designing products and made it too small by accident is an indication of my opinion on them as a company in 2025.

You taking it to "conspiracy theory" levels is comical as well.

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suchiuomizu
09/11/25 10:13:44 PM
#79:


rick_alverado posted...
There's never a good reason to use insane, or crazy, or other synonyms for mentally ill as an insult.

And there is no reason to have such a stupid overreaction to the word insane.

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SwayM
09/11/25 10:19:47 PM
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Youre asking for a "reliable source" to confirm that a multibillion-dollar hardware company has the ability to make a device roughly 15mm larger?

Nintendo doesnt need outside validation to prove its capable of adjusting product dimensions as they see fit, they literally design and manufacture the entire console. Pretending they couldnt make it dock compatible is a nonsense position. They chose not to, which is very different from being unable to.

I elect they made a very stupid decision in designing it so.

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Yeah conspiracy theorists are pretty well known for admitting they were just joking about the whole thing. Pretty funny people in general.

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SwayM
09/11/25 11:44:24 PM
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What happens when I pull the data from Nintendos R&D division. Get ahold of the manufacturers, contact the material suppliers, bean counters. We get Doug Bowser himself on the phone. We pull all those hypothetical stats of a 15mm and wider Switch Lite that never happened? I getyou to admit you agree that a switch lite that can dock is a better product?

Wow.quite underwhelming for me.

Just seems kind of silly dont ya think. And Im sure you know that. You seem smart enough to know how hypotheticals work and what youre asking for is as ridiculous as it is impossible. Even if I could pull all that information, you seem to think I actually care enough to do that to change your opinion. You have a pretty high evaluation of yourself to assume all that my friend.

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SwayM
09/12/25 1:01:31 AM
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Well. Youve definitely left your mark on this topic. Kudos to a jobdone.

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SwayM
09/12/25 1:35:42 AM
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See a pretty chill dude looking back at me.

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Foppe
09/12/25 2:07:19 AM
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A hotel room.
Fucking get one.

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SwayM
09/12/25 2:12:18 AM
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Anyway. This was a topic about consoles or some shit.

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09/12/25 8:35:17 AM
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when you control all aspects of engineering, it really genuinely is that simple

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SwayM
09/12/25 10:47:45 AM
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It went through all those people anyway.

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SwayM
09/12/25 11:06:25 AM
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No ones saying it wasnt? Do you even know what point youre trying to make

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doshindude
09/12/25 12:08:34 PM
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Eh it's been a mixed bag through the years:

  • NES top loader - better system boot reliability, but loss of AV out + redesigned controllers (albeit removable) are an ergonomic nightmare
  • SNES 2 - Arguably has a better picture output than a lot of previous units. Google "1CHIP SNES" for details or look up MLIG's videos on it
  • N64 - No major revision
  • Gamecube - No major revision
  • Wii - Straight downgrades over the years. Losing the gamecube ports and then the wifi functionality was braindead
  • Wii U - No major revision
  • Switch - Lite is a total downgrade. OLED model is an upgrade
  • Game Boy - Pocket had a better screen, GBC is an overall upgrade
  • GBA SP - Overall upgrade, but buttons and ergonomics took a hit + loss of headphone jack
  • GB Micro - downgrade all around other than possibly screen quality but that's subjective.
  • DS Lite - D-Pad is a total downgrade - it's mushy and imprecise compared to the OG model. Other than that, it's an improvement
  • DSi - Downgrade - loss of GBA slot + DS Lite's bad D-pad is still there
  • 3DS XL - upgrade from the OG 3DS all around
  • N3DS/N3DS XL - Complete upgrade, no downsides

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Foppe
09/12/25 12:32:43 PM
#96:


doshindude posted...
N64 - No major revision
The new revision killed Stop 'n' Swop.

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ellis123
09/12/25 12:57:44 PM
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doshindude posted...
Gamecube - No major revision
IIRC there was one that added a digital AV port, which is big for outputting to modern TVs.

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09/12/25 1:09:45 PM
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Honestly the only thing I hate about the switch 2 is key cards.
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snake_5036
09/12/25 2:55:04 PM
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ellis123 posted...
IIRC there was one that added a digital AV port, which is big for outputting to modern TVs.
The GameCube revision removed the component port. No other changes besides that though I think. Maybe one of the bottom ports were adjusted but I don't remember.

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