Current Events > Kamala Harris says Biden's decision to run again was "recklessness"

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If Biden drops out at the end of 2022 or even mid-2023 then Democrats win the 2024 Presidential election. That's why talking about it is in fact relevant.

Unfortunately there wasn't enough time for a primary. Biden never should have run again.

Kamala Harris: "'Its Joe and Jills decision.' We all said that, like a mantra, as if wed all been hypnotized. Was it grace, or was it recklessness? In retrospect, I think it was recklessness. The stakes were simply too high. This wasnt a choice that should have been left to an individuals ego, an individuals ambition."

When Fox News attacked me on everything from my laugh, to my tone of voice, to whom Id dated in my 20s, or claimed I was a DEI hire, the WH rarely pushed back with my actual rsum: two terms elected D.A., top cop in the second-largest department of justice in the US, senator representing one in eight Americans.

Their thinking was zero-sum: If shes shining, hes dimmed. None of them grasped that if I did well, he did well. That given the concerns about his age, my visible success as his VP was vital. It would serve as a testament to his judgment in choosing me and reassurance that if something happened, the country was in good hands. My success was important for him.

His team didnt get it.

The accountability is with the voters who picked a rapist, pedophile, racist, fascist, and traitor. Stop trying to pass the blame. It's the MAGAs. It's the "she needs to earn my vote" liberals. It's ignorant, terrible people.

The thing is, it makes her and the rest of the admin look bad for not having the courage to say all this back then when there was such a risk of Trump.

Put blame on Biden, but... y'all fucked up also.

What was reckless was the Biden administration not doing fucking ANYTHING to hold Trump accountable for January 6th. He should have been thrown in jail immediately for treason and seditious conspiracy and be not allowed to run for office again.

Democrats not even considering the possibility of an 80+ year old man not being up for the job of POTUS, and having backup candidates goes beyond "recklessness", and is flat-out political malpractice.

Someone needs to audit Harris's campaign. To spend over a billion dollars, only to lose every swing state and the popular vote is mind-boggling. There needs to be accountability for this level of failure.

Kamala Harris still wins, except now the primary has had extra time for protesters to call her a psychopathic genocidal maniac.

Him trying to get a "gotcha" with Garland was a really stupid move in retrospect. Did no one in the Democratic party think he was anything more than a compromise pick to try to get someone through the Senate?

And yeah, Biden should have stuck by his pledge of being a transitional President and said he wasn't seeking reelection, if not from the start of his Presidency, then at least in time to have a proper primary. He was too old for the job and he had to know he was slipping.

Furthermore, his poll numbers never recovered from the disastrous Afghanistan withdrawal and went even lower afterward. The American people wanted a change and he should have provided an alternative to himself other than Fascism.

Reports also came out that he prevented Kamala from distancing herself from him during the election. Something about "defending his legacy". Guess what your legacy is now Biden? Trump!

Wasn't the Afghanistan withdrawal mostly Trump's doing? IIRC, he set it up as a disaster on purpose.

Wasn't the Afghanistan withdrawal mostly Trump's doing? IIRC, he set it up as a disaster on purpose.

Biden admin didn't do the withdrawal exactly as it was drawn up by Trump, iirc they delayed it or something. Not saying that's why it was messy

nah sadly she won't cuz as seen in 2020 she isn't that popular outside her state. she will be crushed if there was another primary before the 2024 election
and as we learned people would've voted for trump had covid not happen cuz thanks to the media and decades of brainrot people still buy the myth of rupubs are great for the economy so biden had biden still ran for office the dems would've lost even more seats as their own internal polling was saying

If he needed more time to make it orderly, then he should have asked for it (and it isn't like anyone had the power to refuse such a request). The buck stops here as they say...

The Biden admin did. The initial withdrawal date of remaining US forces negotiated by the Trump admin was May 1 2021. Biden pushed this back until August 31 2021 to give themselves more time. Problem is that they didn't bother negotiating the extension with the Taliban. So the Taliban started their final offensive May of that year. 3.5 months later they had captured all provincial capitals including Kabul, before the US withdrawal was complete.

Is this meant to be more than an excuse? The obvious solution is to use military force to hold them back until the withdrawal is complete.

If only there had been some person whose responsibility it was to watch for signs of trouble.

To delay the inevitable for a few more months? We've been there for decades already. If by then Afghanistans government wasn't capable of defending itself then it certainly wasn't going to get the capability in another month or two.

Wasn't the Afghanistan withdrawal mostly Trump's doing? IIRC, he set it up as a disaster on purpose.

Biden should have won in a landslide. Unfortunately this country is full of brain dead fucking morons

What was reckless was the Biden administration not doing fucking ANYTHING to hold Trump accountable for January 6th. He should have been thrown in jail immediately for treason and seditious conspiracy and be not allowed to run for office again.

But you also have to live in reality. You can't rely on people having a sudden epiphany that Trump is a fascist and literally anything would be better when they don't actually believe that. You actually have to run and win elections, you can't simply do it by default. You have to get people to vote FOR you at some point, not just against the other guy. Because there's always the option to stay home.

For what it's worth, since 2000:

Dems w/ Biden on the ticket: 3-0
Dems w/o Biden on the ticket: 0-4

She would've won and a primary would've been worse, tbqh.

except now the primary has had extra time for protesters to call her a psychopathic genocidal maniac.

I felt the same way about Sanders running again in 2020. He was too old to serve and it was selfish of him to run.

Sanders came across less like an old man than Biden did, even though he's actually slightly older. Even so, if he'd won in 2020 I'd have been saying (as I did about Biden) that he should only do one term.

This. It should have been literally the first thing Biden after being sworn in.

I'd just like to say that you are consistently the wisest and most sensible poster on this board when it comes to politics.

FDR has a record of 4-0. Shall we make him the nominee next time?

Also this. By the time Biden dropped out, doing what they actually did was the least bad option (though still very bad, as it turned out). The correct approach was for Biden to make it explicitly clear, way back in 2021, that he wasn't going to run in 2024.

There was a quite obvious way to avoid that.

He had a heart attack, almost died, and then went back to running.

No, actually, there wasn't. Even if Harris had come out stronger against israel, they would've been screaming "so why aren't you doing more?"

And yet still gave every appearance of being in better physical and mental health than either Biden or Trump.

He had.

A heart attack.

And almost died.

8 out of ten people from both parties dont want biological males in womens sports.

I would imagine the number of people who support transitioning children on any level is even lower than that.

Another thing thats absolutely true outside of the echo chamber is the vast majority of people on both sides do not support the more extreme shit that the left wont let go of.

8 out of ten people from both parties dont want biological males in womens sports.

I would imagine the number of people who support transitioning children on any level is even lower than that.

To your average person this is just a bridge too far. Im not personally saying how I feel, Im just saying that its a hot button issue and its way bigger of an issue than the echo chamber thinks it is to parents and people in general.

The left supports extremely unpopular things and then just calls everyone who disagrees with said extremely unpopular things names and tries to shame them into going along.

Another issue was immigration. No matter how you slice it, it was an utter lie that Biden couldnt do anything without congressional action. Everyone knew this. When I say everyone, I mean the average voter who hadnt made up their mind, not the echo chamber who insisted it was true. So it looked a lot like it wasBiden made it extremely easy for millions of people to cross the border and your average voter didnt like that. Trump proved that you can shut the border down and basically cut crossings down to zero with no congressional reform.

Like we need to be honest with ourselves and realize that the more extreme policies wre only popular to a very small section of society and the larger majority finds them deeply off putting. They really helped hand Trump the election by catering to a tiny little subset of the population against the opinions of the substantially larger population of people who were actively against these things.

I couldn't get past this, just holy shit. Do we really need to have these conversations again on this board? I thought we were finally done with this.

Dude's a chud with weapons grade bad takes. Just ignore him.

It's just frustrating, I thought these sorts mostly got suspended and no longer had CE access but this Charlie Kirk assassination has just brought them back out of the woodwork.