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HipsterSora
09/12/25 2:43:19 PM
#406:


TheGoldenEel posted...
not to mention the legal ramifications of keeping a secret like that
generally speaking you are not legally obligated to report the crimes of your family

TheGoldenEel posted...
I do think it's weird that people are throwing out there that "his family turned him in/convinced him to turn himself in" as evidence of a strained relationship or something

I think there are a lot of people across the political spectrum who would have a problem with hiding that they knew their child murdered someone--no matter how much they loved them
especially a religious family

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texanfan27
09/12/25 2:43:35 PM
#407:


What the heck is a groyper? Now Im really lost

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Tyranthraxus
09/12/25 2:43:40 PM
#408:


Seems like Nick Fuentes knew something like this might happen

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/f/f1b833a5.jpg

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WingsOfGood
09/12/25 2:44:50 PM
#409:


yea if their relationship was deeply strained, he probably would not have turned himself in

though reports do say he threatened to sudoku before he was convinced to not do that
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Tyranthraxus
09/12/25 2:44:51 PM
#410:


texanfan27 posted...
What the heck is a groyper? Now Im really lost

Nick Fuentes sycophants who post a lot of pepe memes. Hate people like Charlie Kirk because they're not racist or anti Jew enough.

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BlackScythe0
09/12/25 2:45:17 PM
#411:


texanfan27 posted...
What the heck is a groyper? Now Im really lost

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groypers
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BombermanGold
09/12/25 2:46:26 PM
#412:


ThunderTrain posted...
Im so disappointed in the amount of fake Charlie Kirk quotes Im seeing shared. People are really trying to minimize what his beliefs were.

Even though there's plenty (that still remains) of online video showing him saying all those vile things?

That said, for a number of the GOP cultists, this seems to be in play:
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Scorsese2002
09/12/25 2:47:19 PM
#413:


WingsOfGood posted...
yea if their relationship was deeply strained, he probably would not have turned himself in

though reports do say he threatened to sudoku before he was convinced to not do that

Im puzzled

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ShaneMcComez
09/12/25 2:48:03 PM
#414:


Pitbuller_26 posted...
Now imagine you're the deceased victim of this shooting.

Spent your whole life simping for racist, homophobic, transphobics, etc causes to build your career only to get taken out by one of the white male youths you helped cultivate with that rhetoric.

NOW ADDITIONALLY: The man and administration you help carry water for and win, now are tossing your killing to the wayside because the guy who killed you is one of your own. Even more, the party you also helped win are now half assing their previously impassioned response about revenge for you.

Truly a life of a pawn.
This should give other Conservative/Fascist, grifting mouthpieces a pause about their line of work. When you cultivate a base of degenerates and psychos. Don't be surprised when one of the monsters you helped create, start to come after you for whatever reason got inside their mentally ill head. You and your fascist fucks continue to stoke the flames, and instill your sick supporters with a sense that they have to get out and commit violence against their perceived enemies.

But I'm guessing, just like average Americans going about their day, these pawns will continue on thinking "what happened to Charlie Kirk can't happen to me", until they meet the consequences of their actions.

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DnDer
09/12/25 2:49:20 PM
#415:


BlackScythe0 posted...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groypers
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/1/13330031.png

That leaves me wondering how Kirk, who was a very white Christian nationalist, wasn't white Christian nationalist enough for someone on the right.

Like, Kirk and Fuentes should be doing the Predator Handshake with how much their ideologies overlap, at least on the surface...

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Umbreon
09/12/25 2:49:41 PM
#416:


In the words of Random AIM goon in the long gone Marvel Heroes game...

"Nobody told me I was expendable!"

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BlackScythe0
09/12/25 2:50:52 PM
#417:


BombermanGold posted...
Even though there's plenty (that still remains) of online video showing him saying all those vile things?

That said, for a number of the GOP cultists, this seems to be in play:

When I was reviewing r/conservative to see what was going on they were claiming the empathy quote was taken out of context. Apparently he follows that up with saying he prefers "sympathy and compassion". I do not know, I'm not looking it up, and I don't know what the major supposed difference between sympathy and empathy was supposed to be.
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aarrgus
09/12/25 2:50:55 PM
#418:


Tyranthraxus posted...
Seems like Nick Fuentes knew something like this might happen

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/f/f1b833a5.jpg

This statement was posted very close to when the killer was brought in.... and far enough into the investigation that someone like Fuentes may have been provided preliminary information about what he was writing on the shells and that they might connect in some way to his ideas.


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DnDer
09/12/25 2:50:59 PM
#419:


BombermanGold posted...
That said, for a number of the GOP cultists, this seems to be in play:
The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.

I remember when Trump himself said that. Or close enough.

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-us-canada-44959340


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WingsOfGood
09/12/25 2:52:43 PM
#420:


what is 3 percenter

looked up groyper and now see people saying his dad wearing a 3 percenter shirt?

wtf is this
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TheGoldenEel
09/12/25 2:53:03 PM
#421:


WingsOfGood posted...
what is 3 percenter

looked up groyper and now see people saying his dad wearing a 3 percenter shirt?

wtf is this
I think it's some right wing gun nut shit

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BlackScythe0
09/12/25 2:53:49 PM
#422:


WingsOfGood posted...
what is 3 percenter

looked up groyper and now see people saying his dad wearing a 3 percenter shirt?

wtf is this
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/d/de166533.png
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Tyranthraxus
09/12/25 2:54:37 PM
#423:


WingsOfGood posted...
what is 3 percenter

looked up groyper and now see people saying his dad wearing a 3 percenter shirt?

wtf is this

3 percenter is one of the pro civil war para militias who had a huge hand in J6

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WingsOfGood
09/12/25 2:55:12 PM
#424:


shirt doesn't look like it to me

think person was reaching

looks like normal blue matters shirt
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LightSnake
09/12/25 2:55:30 PM
#425:


aarrgus posted...
This statement was posted very close to when the killer was brought in.... and far enough into the investigation that someone like Fuentes may have been provided preliminary information about what he was writing on the shells and that they might connect in some way to his ideas.

I've said before, I'll say it again:

It's amazing how people's view of political violence can change when they can imagine it happening to them.

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HashtagSEP
09/12/25 2:56:29 PM
#426:


ThunderTrain posted...
Im so disappointed in the amount of fake Charlie Kirk quotes Im seeing shared. People are really trying to minimize what his beliefs were.

What fake quotes?

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BlackScythe0
09/12/25 2:57:10 PM
#427:


HashtagSEP posted...
What fake quotes?

This is the only option I'm aware of right off hand.

BlackScythe0 posted...
When I was reviewing r/conservative to see what was going on they were claiming the empathy quote was taken out of context. Apparently he follows that up with saying he prefers "sympathy and compassion". I do not know, I'm not looking it up, and I don't know what the major supposed difference between sympathy and empathy was supposed to be.

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EPR-radar
09/12/25 2:58:03 PM
#428:


Pitbuller_26 posted...
Now imagine you're the deceased victim of this shooting.

Spent your whole life simping for racist, homophobic, transphobics, etc causes to build your career only to get taken out by one of the white male youths you helped cultivate with that rhetoric.

NOW ADDITIONALLY: The man and administration you help carry water for and win, now are tossing your killing to the wayside because the guy who killed you is one of your own. Even more, the party you also helped win are now half assing their previously impassioned response about revenge for you.

Truly a life of a pawn.
I like to think a video montage of precisely this playing out will be part of Charlie Kirk's eternal reward in Hell.

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ThunderTrain
09/12/25 2:58:17 PM
#429:


BombermanGold posted...
Even though there's plenty (that still remains) of online video showing him saying all those vile things?

That said, for a number of the GOP cultists, this seems to be in play:

Because people can just put words on a picture of somebody and share it and then others will think its real since theres nothing out there to stop it from happening.

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WingsOfGood
09/12/25 3:00:38 PM
#430:


here is the dad's shirt

is it just a normal shirt?

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/a/a6ecd1e8.jpg

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/1/152bd233.jpg

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/5/595f9d92.jpg

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Will_VIIII
09/12/25 3:01:25 PM
#431:


I didn't even know what a gyoper was til today

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Srk700
09/12/25 3:01:27 PM
#432:


DnDer posted...
That leaves me wondering how Kirk, who was a very white Christian nationalist, wasn't white Christian nationalist enough for someone on the right.

Like, Kirk and Fuentes should be doing the Predator Handshake with how much their ideologies overlap, at least on the surface...

The 2 most likely reasons are the Epstein stuff and support for Israel. Kirk backed down from wanting to see the Epstein files released and has been a supporter of Israel. Fuentes has been adamant about wanting to see the files released, and he hates Jews so much that he doesnt want Israel getting any kind of support whatsoever ever.

Those 2 things alone are enough for someone like Fuentes to see someone like Kirk as a traitor to their cause.
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aarrgus
09/12/25 3:04:21 PM
#433:


WingsOfGood posted...
here is the dad's shirt

is it just a normal shirt?

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/a/a6ecd1e8.jpg

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/1/152bd233.jpg

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/5/595f9d92.jpg

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/c/ca225c8b.jpg


Very similar, although not identical to "Grunt Style" shirts..... which is a right wing t shirt brand. Not sure yet though....


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UnfairRepresent
09/12/25 3:05:20 PM
#434:


Srk700 posted...
The 2 most likely reasons are the Epstein stuff and support for Israel. Kirk backed down from wanting to see the Epstein files released and has been a supporter of Israel. Fuentes has been adamant about wanting to see the files released, and he hates Jews so much that he doesnt want Israel getting any kind of support whatsoever ever.

Those 2 things alone are enough for someone like Fuentes to see someone like Kirk as a traitor to their cause.
which is bizarre because Kirk was getting flack for being too harsh on Israel

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WingsOfGood
09/12/25 3:05:38 PM
#435:


aarrgus posted...


Very similar, although not identical to "Grunt Style" shirts..... which is a right wing t shirt brand. Not sure yet though....

there is a right wing t-shirt brand?
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Zikten
09/12/25 3:06:24 PM
#436:


WingsOfGood posted...
there is a right wing t-shirt brand?
Also a right wing coffee. I forget the name though
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MotaroRIP619
09/12/25 3:06:52 PM
#437:


Zikten posted...
Also a right wing coffee. I forget the name though

Black Rifle?
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aarrgus
09/12/25 3:07:01 PM
#438:


Zikten posted...
Also a right wing coffee. I forget the name though

Black Rifle Coffee.


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BlackScythe0
09/12/25 3:07:08 PM
#439:


aarrgus posted...
Very similar, although not identical to "Grunt Style" shirts..... which is a right wing t shirt brand. Not sure yet though....

It's dion wear, but I don't know how to tell what group affiliation design or brand might have beyond the obvious of what the shirt says.
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Zikten
09/12/25 3:07:37 PM
#440:


MotaroRIP619 posted...
Black Rifle?

aarrgus posted...
Black Rifle Coffee.
Yea. I think that's it
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Srk700
09/12/25 3:09:47 PM
#441:


UnfairRepresent posted...
which is bizarre because Kirk was getting flack for being too harsh on Israel

Hes also said he doesnt want to see Israel wiped out, unlike Fuentes who would like nothing more than to see as many Jews killed as possible. To people like Fuentes, anything less than the genocide of all Jews could be seen as not being down with the cause.
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HashtagSEP
09/12/25 3:10:46 PM
#442:


ThunderTrain posted...
Because people can just put words on a picture of somebody and share it and then others will think its real since theres nothing out there to stop it from happening.

Got any examples?

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aarrgus
09/12/25 3:11:33 PM
#443:


BlackScythe0 posted...
It's dion wear, but I don't know how to tell what group affiliation design or brand might have beyond the obvious of what the shirt says.

You are correct.... its Dion Wear...

But with shirts like this it's easy to know their affiliation....

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/4/4ba75da4.jpg

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SpawnShadow
09/12/25 3:12:54 PM
#444:


WingsOfGood posted...
there is a right wing t-shirt brand?
You'd be surprised how much overpriced garbage has been marketed specifically to right-wingers, even before the rise of Trump.

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ai123
09/12/25 3:13:34 PM
#445:


TheGoldenEel posted...
I do think it's weird that people are throwing out there that "his family turned him in/convinced him to turn himself in" as evidence of a strained relationship or something

I think there are a lot of people across the political spectrum who would have a problem with hiding that they knew their child murdered someone--no matter how much they loved them

not to mention the legal ramifications of keeping a secret like that
A lot of people also do it because they don't want to see their kid hunted down and killed in a firefight.


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EPR-radar
09/12/25 3:13:54 PM
#446:


SpawnShadow posted...
You'd be surprised how much overpriced garbage has been marketed specifically to right-wingers, even before the rise of Trump.
Fools and their money are easily parted etc.

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BlackScythe0
09/12/25 3:14:00 PM
#447:


aarrgus posted...
You are correct.... its Dion Wear...

But with shirts like this it's easy to know their affiliation....

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/4/4ba75da4.jpg

At risk of sounding dumb, I just quickly skimmed and thought that was a punisher shirt.
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BlackScythe0
09/12/25 3:14:56 PM
#448:


HashtagSEP posted...
Got any examples?

Conservatives don't answer questions they just make vague accusations and deflections.
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aarrgus
09/12/25 3:15:56 PM
#449:


BlackScythe0 posted...
At risk of sounding dumb, I just quickly skimmed and thought that was a punisher shirt.

Easy to be confused as these right wing paramilitary groups and law enforcement enthusiasts have largely stolen the motif of the Punisher for their own agenda.

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Heineken14
09/12/25 3:16:08 PM
#450:


BlackScythe0 posted...
At risk of sounding dumb, I just quickly skimmed and thought that was a punisher shirt.

I wouldn't say that is overtly sounding dumb, since the right have co-opted The Punisher as somehow being one of them.

That goes back to my mentioning of those songs/bands right wingers love that the one dude was using as rock solid proof of the guy being a far left ANTIFA. The right have 0 media literacy.

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_Spider_Venom
09/12/25 3:16:28 PM
#451:


ThunderTrain posted...
Im so disappointed in the amount of fake Charlie Kirk quotes Im seeing shared. People are really trying to minimize what his beliefs were.
Slightly related but does anyone know if the quote the Utah govenor read is actually something Kirk said? I've tried googling different lines of the quote and the results come up with that other people originated various lines like Ghandi and Oscar Wilde lol.
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SpawnShadow
09/12/25 3:16:59 PM
#452:


aarrgus posted...
Easy to be confused as these right wing paramilitary groups and law enforcement enthusiasts have largely stolen the motif of the Punisher for their own agenda.
I wish Disney had the balls to sic their lawyers on those assholes. I guess they figured they had more to fear from them than they did from a fucking daycare.

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BombermanGold
09/12/25 3:22:50 PM
#453:


_Spider_Venom posted...
Slightly related but does anyone know if the quote the Utah govenor read is actually something Kirk said? I've tried googling different lines of the quote and the results come up with that other people originated various lines like Ghandi and Oscar Wilde lol.

That would be utterly sickening if people literally started making up quotes he never said and attaching ones of actual revered figures to him.

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DUKLegend
09/12/25 3:22:52 PM
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Sephirothe
09/12/25 3:22:52 PM
#455:


Latest on CNN is that suspect is not speaking with investigators (as expected) and that formal charges are expected to be filed on Tuesday. Nothing about bond, so Im guessing hes being held without bond (also expected)

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