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El_Dustino 09/30/25 12:35:39 AM #52:	Zikten posted... From what I hear, even before October 7th, it wasn't smart to let kids walk around outside unaccompanied in Palestine. IDF just would kidnap kids and make up a crime and lock em up. And without even telling their family. The kid just one day never comes home. Its fucked up Evil people. Israel needs to be occupied. --- The two most beautiful words in any language: I forgive. AC:NL Dream Address: 5700-3355-4304 <cite>El_Dustino posted [p:986577547] in Trump's Ce... [t:81048194]...</cite> <quote>Zikten posted... </cite><quote>From what I hear, even before October 7th, it wasn't smart to let kids walk around outside unaccompanied in Palestine. IDF just would kidnap kids and make up a crime and lock em up. And without even telling their family. The kid just one day never comes home. Its fucked up</quote>Evil people. Israel needs to be occupied.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FFTHEWINNER 09/30/25 7:25:15 PM #53:	bump --- WHO AM I?FFTHEWINNER. WHO ARE YOU?URTHELOSER http://i.imgur.com/xgSex.png <cite>FFTHEWINNER posted [p:986585597] in Trump's Ce... [t:81048194]...</cite> <quote>bump</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DnDer 09/30/25 8:53:58 PM #54:	Strider102 posted... Have you seen the Trump Gaza video? Don't need to see some AI bullshit when Kushner himself has openly talked about developing Gaza's waterfront. It's not even implied, and hasn't been for years. --- What has books ever teached us? -- Captain Afrohead Subject-verb agreement. -- t3h 0n3 <cite>DnDer posted [p:986586440] in Trump's Ce... [t:81048194]...</cite> <quote>Strider102 posted... </cite><quote>Have you seen the Trump Gaza video?</quote>Don't need to see some AI bullshit when Kushner himself has openly talked about developing Gaza's waterfront.It's not even implied, and hasn't been for years.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DnDer 09/30/25 8:54:52 PM #55:	Zikten posted... IDF just would kidnap kids and make up a crime and lock em up. Not just kids. But, yeah. Lots of kids. --- What has books ever teached us? -- Captain Afrohead Subject-verb agreement. -- t3h 0n3 <cite>DnDer posted [p:986586448] in Trump's Ce... [t:81048194]...</cite> <quote>Zikten posted... </cite><quote>IDF just would kidnap kids and make up a crime and lock em up.</quote>Not just kids. But, yeah. Lots of kids.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hexenherz 10/01/25 1:01:50 AM #56:	I take back what I said originally, it's a pretty fucking raw deal. It looks rational on paper but is completely biased and levvies really no requirements on Israel. Like, it ignores the fact that the current Israeli administration is guilty of heinous ass crimes and would also need to be replaced if there's to be any hope for establishing trust between the two parties. It puts all the wrongdoing and onus on Hamas and the Palestinians and ignores whatever grievances they may have (beyond the whole "currently being subjected to egregious attacks on civilian populations" problem) --- RS3: UltimaSuende - CE Thread Zone https://letterboxd.com/BMovieBro/ <cite>Hexenherz posted [p:986588220] in Trump's Ce... [t:81048194]...</cite> <quote>I take back what I said originally, it's a pretty fucking raw deal.It looks rational on paper but is completely biased and levvies really no requirements on Israel. Like, it ignores the fact that the current Israeli administration is guilty of heinous ass crimes and would also need to be replaced if there's to be any hope for establishing trust between the two parties. It puts all the wrongdoing and onus on Hamas and the Palestinians and ignores whatever grievances they may have (beyond the whole "currently being subjected to egregious attacks on civilian populations" problem)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumble 10/01/25 1:39:21 AM #57:	Palestine would be absolutely insane to disarm at this point. They need every weapon they can get to fight back against Israel. Israel are the ones who need to be disarmed if we want any chance of lasting peace. Or even better, disarm both - but Israel first. --- (2025-02-24) Not changing my sig until I feel like it. <cite>Trumble posted [p:986588417] in Trump's Ce... [t:81048194]...</cite> <quote>Palestine would be absolutely insane to disarm at this point. They need every weapon they can get to fight back against Israel. Israel are the ones who need to be disarmed if we want any chance of lasting peace. Or even better, disarm both - but Israel first.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sir_Will 10/01/25 2:49:03 AM #58:	Trump, Bibi, and Blair are all horrible. But what alternative is there exactly? All those saying they shouldn't agree to this deal, what is your alternative? I'm talking REALISTIC alternative, not idealistic. --- River Song: Well, I was off to this gay gypsy bar mitzvah for the disabled when I thought 'Gosh, the Third Reich's a bit rubbish, I think i'll kill the Fuhrer' <cite>Sir_Will posted [p:986588699] in Trump's Ce... [t:81048194]...</cite> <quote>Trump, Bibi, and Blair are all horrible. But what alternative is there exactly? All those saying they shouldn't agree to this deal, what is your alternative? I'm talking REALISTIC alternative, not idealistic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
rick_alverado 10/01/25 4:03:55 PM #59:	Sir_Will posted... Trump, Bibi, and Blair are all horrible. But what alternative is there exactly? All those saying they shouldn't agree to this deal, what is your alternative? I'm talking REALISTIC alternative, not idealistic. That's the problem. Every move is a losing move. <cite>rick_alverado posted [p:986594291] in Trump's Ce... [t:81048194]...</cite> <quote>Sir_Will posted... </cite><quote>Trump, Bibi, and Blair are all horrible. But what alternative is there exactly? All those saying they shouldn't agree to this deal, what is your alternative? I'm talking REALISTIC alternative, not idealistic.</quote>That's the problem. Every move is a losing move.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
name_unknown 10/01/25 4:16:14 PM #60:	well the only update I did find wasn't good https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-hamas-war-news-10-01-2025-45068054466d02eea3e060f2e8484c40 Israel orders Palestinians to leave Gaza City, saying those who stay will be considered militants Israels defense minister on Wednesday ordered all remaining Palestinians to leave Gaza City, saying it was their last opportunity and that anyone who stayed would be considered a militant supporter and face the full force At least 21 Palestinians were killed across the territory, according to local hospitals, as Hamas weighed a new proposal from U.S. President Donald Trump aimed at ending the war and returning the remaining captives taken in Hamas Oct. 7, 2023, attack that triggered it. A senior Hamas official told The Associated Press that there are some points in the proposal that are unacceptable and must be amended, without elaborating. He said the official response will only come after consultations with other Palestinian factions. This is the last opportunity for Gaza residents who wish to do so to move south, Defense Minister Israel Katz wrote on X. Those who remain in Gaza will be (considered) terrorists and terror supporters. The road south was packed as Palestinians fled, with hastily loaded trucks and cars driving alongside people on foot carrying their belongings. We left barefoot, Hussein al-Del said. The Israelis were striking at random, with no mercy for anyone. We left behind our food, our furniture, blankets, and everything. We left only with our souls, he said. Around 400,000 Palestinians have fled famine-stricken Gaza City since Israel launched a major offensive last month aimed at occupying it, but hundreds of thousands remain, many because they cannot afford to leave or are too weak to make the journey to tent camps in the south. <cite>name_unknown posted [p:986594414] in Trump's Ce... [t:81048194]...</cite> <quote>well the only update I did find wasn't goodhttps://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-hamas-war-news-10-01-2025-45068054466d02eea3e060f2e8484c40Israel orders Palestinians to leave Gaza City, saying those who stay will be considered militantsIsraels defense minister on Wednesday ordered all remaining Palestinians to leave Gaza City, saying it was their last opportunity and that anyone who stayed would be considered a militant supporter and face the full forceAt least 21 Palestinians were killed across the territory, according to local hospitals, as Hamas weighed a new proposal from U.S. President Donald Trump aimed at ending the war and returning the remaining captives taken in Hamas Oct. 7, 2023, attack that triggered it.A senior Hamas official told The Associated Press that there are some points in the proposal that are unacceptable and must be amended, without elaborating. He said the official response will only come after consultations with other Palestinian factions.This is the last opportunity for Gaza residents who wish to do so to move south, Defense Minister Israel Katz wrote on X. Those who remain in Gaza will be (considered) terrorists and terror supporters.The road south was packed as Palestinians fled, with hastily loaded trucks and cars driving alongside people on foot carrying their belongings.We left barefoot, Hussein al-Del said. The Israelis were striking at random, with no mercy for anyone. We left behind our food, our furniture, blankets, and everything. We left only with our souls, he said.Around 400,000 Palestinians have fled famine-stricken Gaza City since Israel launched a major offensive last month aimed at occupying it, but hundreds of thousands remain, many because they cannot afford to leave or are too weak to make the journey to tent camps in the south.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DrizztLink 10/01/25 4:20:05 PM #61:	name_unknown posted... This is the last opportunity for Gaza residents who wish to do so to move south, Defense Minister Israel Katz wrote on X. Those who remain in Gaza will be (considered) terrorists and terror supporters. "Those who move south will also be considered terrorists and terror supporters, because we are genocidal subhumans." --- He/Him http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png <cite>DrizztLink posted [p:986594452] in Trump's Ce... [t:81048194]...</cite> <quote>name_unknown posted... </cite><quote>This is the last opportunity for Gaza residents who wish to do so to move south, Defense Minister Israel Katz wrote on X. Those who remain in Gaza will be (considered) terrorists and terror supporters.</quote>"Those who move south will also be considered terrorists and terror supporters, because we are genocidal subhumans."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FFTHEWINNER 10/01/25 4:20:39 PM #62:	I really hope Hamas accepts. This war urgently needs to end. Enough massacres already. --- WHO AM I?FFTHEWINNER. WHO ARE YOU?URTHELOSER http://i.imgur.com/xgSex.png <cite>FFTHEWINNER posted [p:986594463] in Trump's Ce... [t:81048194]...</cite> <quote>I really hope Hamas accepts. This war urgently needs to end. Enough massacres already.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gikos 10/01/25 4:33:51 PM #63:	name_unknown posted... well the only update I did find wasn't good https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-hamas-war-news-10-01-2025-45068054466d02eea3e060f2e8484c40 Israel orders Palestinians to leave Gaza City, saying those who stay will be considered militants Israels defense minister on Wednesday ordered all remaining Palestinians to leave Gaza City, saying it was their last opportunity and that anyone who stayed would be considered a militant supporter and face the full force At least 21 Palestinians were killed across the territory, according to local hospitals, as Hamas weighed a new proposal from U.S. President Donald Trump aimed at ending the war and returning the remaining captives taken in Hamas Oct. 7, 2023, attack that triggered it. A senior Hamas official told The Associated Press that there are some points in the proposal that are unacceptable and must be amended, without elaborating. He said the official response will only come after consultations with other Palestinian factions. This is the last opportunity for Gaza residents who wish to do so to move south, Defense Minister Israel Katz wrote on X. Those who remain in Gaza will be (considered) terrorists and terror supporters. The road south was packed as Palestinians fled, with hastily loaded trucks and cars driving alongside people on foot carrying their belongings. We left barefoot, Hussein al-Del said. The Israelis were striking at random, with no mercy for anyone. We left behind our food, our furniture, blankets, and everything. We left only with our souls, he said. Around 400,000 Palestinians have fled famine-stricken Gaza City since Israel launched a major offensive last month aimed at occupying it, but hundreds of thousands remain, many because they cannot afford to leave or are too weak to make the journey to tent camps in the south. yep as expected the genocide will continue whether they accept this deal or not and i knew they wouldn't stop since bibi's needs to keep going to stay out of jail --- "You can pretend to be serious; you can't pretend to be witty." - Sacha Guitry (1885-1957) <cite>gikos posted [p:986594619] in Trump's Ce... [t:81048194]...</cite> <quote>name_unknown posted... </cite><quote>well the only update I did find wasn't goodhttps://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-hamas-war-news-10-01-2025-45068054466d02eea3e060f2e8484c40Israel orders Palestinians to leave Gaza City, saying those who stay will be considered militantsIsraels defense minister on Wednesday ordered all remaining Palestinians to leave Gaza City, saying it was their last opportunity and that anyone who stayed would be considered a militant supporter and face the full forceAt least 21 Palestinians were killed across the territory, according to local hospitals, as Hamas weighed a new proposal from U.S. President Donald Trump aimed at ending the war and returning the remaining captives taken in Hamas Oct. 7, 2023, attack that triggered it.A senior Hamas official told The Associated Press that there are some points in the proposal that are unacceptable and must be amended, without elaborating. He said the official response will only come after consultations with other Palestinian factions.This is the last opportunity for Gaza residents who wish to do so to move south, Defense Minister Israel Katz wrote on X. Those who remain in Gaza will be (considered) terrorists and terror supporters.The road south was packed as Palestinians fled, with hastily loaded trucks and cars driving alongside people on foot carrying their belongings.We left barefoot, Hussein al-Del said. The Israelis were striking at random, with no mercy for anyone. We left behind our food, our furniture, blankets, and everything. We left only with our souls, he said.Around 400,000 Palestinians have fled famine-stricken Gaza City since Israel launched a major offensive last month aimed at occupying it, but hundreds of thousands remain, many because they cannot afford to leave or are too weak to make the journey to tent camps in the south.</quote>yep as expected the genocide will continue whether they accept this deal or not and i knew they wouldn't stop since bibi's needs to keep going to stay out of jail</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
feraldrgn 10/01/25 5:00:15 PM #64:	2. Gaza will be redeveloped for the benefit of the people of Gaza, who have suffered more than enough. Yeah right... for their benefit, no homes getting demolished to make way for Trump's resort. This is all about Israel trying to gain land, you can see the same thing happening with Russia against Ukraine. theAteam posted... Why the fuck does Israel have so many children held prisoner? & the idea that Israel has the bodies of 15 deceased Gazans for every 1 hostage is disgusting. Did they torture them to death? 48 hostages remaining = Israel have 720 dead Gazan prisoners. --- Izumi Teeny seems cool: https://www.youtube.com/@izumiteeny Avaritia Hawthorne OG Song "Burn The Beast": https://youtu.be/Q-FIPWhMzDM?feature=shared <cite>feraldrgn posted [p:986594915] in Trump's Ce... [t:81048194]...</cite> <quote><quote>2. Gaza will be redeveloped for the benefit of the people of Gaza, who have suffered more than enough.</quote>Yeah right... for their benefit, no homes getting demolished to make way for Trump's resort.This is all about Israel trying to gain land, you can see the same thing happening with Russia against Ukraine.theAteam posted... </cite><quote>Why the fuck does Israel have so many children held prisoner?</quote>& the idea that Israel has the bodies of 15 deceased Gazans for every 1 hostage is disgusting. Did they torture them to death?48 hostages remaining = Israel have 720 dead Gazan prisoners.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
madramzay 10/01/25 5:26:34 PM #65:	It's strange that the people held in Gaza are called "Hostages" yet the ones held in israel are called "Prisoners". Why the distinction? The peace plan is a joke and designed to be a shit deal so israel can continue their campaign. Nothing is going to make them back off from their colonial goals. They must be isolated and sanctioned to the point where they have to yield. A plan must be put in place to dismantle their current regime. That is the only reasonable and realistic path to peace unfortunately. <cite>madramzay posted [p:986595124] in Trump's Ce... [t:81048194]...</cite> <quote>It's strange that the people held in Gaza are called "Hostages" yet the ones held in israel are called "Prisoners". Why the distinction?The peace plan is a joke and designed to be a shit deal so israel can continue their campaign. Nothing is going to make them back off from their colonial goals. They must be isolated and sanctioned to the point where they have to yield. A plan must be put in place to dismantle their current regime. That is the only reasonable and realistic path to peace unfortunately. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DnDer 10/01/25 11:44:38 PM #66:	madramzay posted... It's strange that the people held in Gaza are called "Hostages" yet the ones held in israel are called "Prisoners". Why the distinction? My rational answer: Literally what they are? The people held in Gaza are hostages taken during the initial terrorism on the stadium, and their lives have been leveraged for ceasefire negotiations. The people held in Israel are imprisoned, somewhere, in the Israeli judicial system, as Palestinians will get rounded up for anything as they pass any of the dozens of checkpoints through Gaza's labyrinthine open-air ghetto that resembles a republican congressional district. My additional, critical and a little sarcastic answer: But it also serves the additional propaganda needs as "hostages" are victims (and thus gives rise to Israeli victimization narratives for the purpose of garnering international support) and "prisoners" are criminals and terrorists and Bad People. And if Palestinians just happen to be those prisoners, then, doesn't that just nicely fit the narrative? --- What has books ever teached us? -- Captain Afrohead Subject-verb agreement. -- t3h 0n3 <cite>DnDer posted [p:986598892] in Trump's Ce... [t:81048194]...</cite> <quote>madramzay posted... </cite><quote>It's strange that the people held in Gaza are called "Hostages" yet the ones held in israel are called "Prisoners". Why the distinction?</quote>My rational answer:Literally what they are? The people held in Gaza are hostages taken during the initial terrorism on the stadium, and their lives have been leveraged for ceasefire negotiations. The people held in Israel are imprisoned, somewhere, in the Israeli judicial system, as Palestinians will get rounded up for anything as they pass any of the dozens of checkpoints through Gaza's labyrinthine open-air ghetto that resembles a republican congressional district.My additional, critical and a little sarcastic answer:But it also serves the additional propaganda needs as "hostages" are victims (and thus gives rise to Israeli victimization narratives for the purpose of garnering international support) and "prisoners" are criminals and terrorists and Bad People. And if Palestinians just happen to be those prisoners, then, doesn't that just nicely fit the narrative?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
name_unknown 10/03/25 10:34:23 AM #67:	sunday is Trump's deadline for a deal Trump said Friday that Hamas must agree to a proposed peace deal for Gaza by 6 p.m. Eastern time on Sunday and threatened the group will suffer more attacks if it doesnt. Trump says on social media, Every Country has signed on! If this LAST CHANCE agreement is not reached, all HELL, like no one has ever seen before, will break out against Hamas. The Republican president says, THERE WILL BE PEACE IN THE MIDDLE EAST ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.The president unveiled the plan alongside Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu earlier this week. <cite>name_unknown posted [p:986612629] in Trump's Ce... [t:81048194]...</cite> <quote>sunday is Trump's deadline for a dealTrump said Friday that Hamas must agree to a proposed peace deal for Gaza by 6 p.m. Eastern time on Sunday and threatened the group will suffer more attacks if it doesnt.Trump says on social media, Every Country has signed on! If this LAST CHANCE agreement is not reached, all HELL, like no one has ever seen before, will break out against Hamas.The Republican president says, THERE WILL BE PEACE IN THE MIDDLE EAST ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.The president unveiled the plan alongside Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu earlier this week.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FFTHEWINNER 10/03/25 11:01:22 AM #68:	FFTHEWINNER posted... I really hope Hamas accepts. This war urgently needs to end. Enough massacres already. --- WHO AM I?FFTHEWINNER. WHO ARE YOU?URTHELOSER http://i.imgur.com/xgSex.png <cite>FFTHEWINNER posted [p:986612872] in Trump's Ce... [t:81048194]...</cite> <quote>FFTHEWINNER posted... </cite><quote>I really hope Hamas accepts. This war urgently needs to end. Enough massacres already.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Yazarogi 10/03/25 11:09:24 AM #69:	Hamas didnt accept --- "There will be nothing to show that we were ever here... but stardust." - Pinbacker <cite>Yazarogi posted [p:986612936] in Trump's Ce... [t:81048194]...</cite> <quote>Hamas didnt accept</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HBOSS 10/03/25 11:34:50 AM #70:	Im seeing that Trump made the deadine to Sunday now. Peace through strength. Funny thing about that is strength in force creates the pressure that fortifies those without the strength of force. Those oppressed under this pressure are fighting with strength of their own. A resiliancy to survive under such conditions despite overwhelming force. If feels like Palestine will fall on Sunday no matter what based on the threats for this peace there. The world watches on Sunday as nation after nation are just starting to see Palestine. This peace is a way out of the fire and into the grill kinda thing. This is how Palestine ends with the world watching --- You don't stop playing because you grow old, You grow old because you stop playing <cite>HBOSS posted [p:986613170] in Trump's Ce... [t:81048194]...</cite> <quote>Im seeing that Trump made the deadine to Sunday now.Peace through strength. Funny thing about that is strength in force creates the pressure that fortifies those without the strength of force. Those oppressed under this pressure are fighting with strength of their own. A resiliancy to survive under such conditions despite overwhelming force.If feels like Palestine will fall on Sunday no matter what based on the threats for this peace there. The world watches on Sunday as nation after nation are just starting to see Palestine. This peace is a way out of the fire and into the grill kinda thing. This is how Palestine ends with the world watching</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumble 10/03/25 8:37:44 PM #71:	Protests in Europe against Israel have already basically gone nuclear (metaphorically speaking) since Israels illegal kidnapping of European civilians trying to deliver aid to Gaza. If anything gets much worse, I would not be surprised if the people in Europe especially shut the entire continent down until the situation is resolved in Palestines favor. As they should. --- (2025-02-24) Not changing my sig until I feel like it. <cite>Trumble posted [p:986618294] in Trump's Ce... [t:81048194]...</cite> <quote>Protests in Europe against Israel have already basically gone nuclear (metaphorically speaking) since Israels illegal kidnapping of European civilians trying to deliver aid to Gaza.If anything gets much worse, I would not be surprised if the people in Europe especially shut the entire continent down until the situation is resolved in Palestines favor.As they should.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FFTHEWINNER 10/03/25 9:28:02 PM #72:	https://www.reuters.com/world/china/trump-gives-hamas-until-sunday-evening-reach-gaza-deal-2025-10-03/ Hamas has accepted most of the plan (it still wants to be involved in Gaza's future. Yeah, that ain't happening) and Trump has said Israel must stop attacking so the hostages can get out and the agreement is implemented. Pretty good news. Hopefully this is the end. --- WHO AM I?FFTHEWINNER. WHO ARE YOU?URTHELOSER http://i.imgur.com/xgSex.png <cite>FFTHEWINNER posted [p:986618760] in Trump's Ce... [t:81048194]...</cite> <quote>https://www.reuters.com/world/china/trump-gives-hamas-until-sunday-evening-reach-gaza-deal-2025-10-03/Hamas has accepted most of the plan (it still wants to be involved in Gaza's future. Yeah, that ain't happening) and Trump has said Israel must stop attacking so the hostages can get out and the agreement is implemented.Pretty good news. Hopefully this is the end.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Yazarogi 10/03/25 10:49:48 PM #73:	I stand corrected, Hama's has agreed to some terms. --- "There will be nothing to show that we were ever here... but stardust." - Pinbacker <cite>Yazarogi posted [p:986619365] in Trump's Ce... [t:81048194]...</cite> <quote>I stand corrected, Hama's has agreed to some terms.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DnDer 10/04/25 12:56:25 AM #74:	FFTHEWINNER posted... (it still wants to be involved in Gaza's future. Yeah, that ain't happening) Likud and Netanyahu shouldn't be involved in Palestine's future, either. Israel in general, really, because Palestine's future should be as an individual, sovereign, and separate state from Israel. Which, as we all should be able to agree on, should remain its own individual, sovereign, and separate state from Palestine. --- What has books ever teached us? -- Captain Afrohead Subject-verb agreement. -- t3h 0n3 <cite>DnDer posted [p:986620161] in Trump's Ce... [t:81048194]...</cite> <quote>FFTHEWINNER posted... </cite><quote>(it still wants to be involved in Gaza's future. Yeah, that ain't happening)</quote>Likud and Netanyahu shouldn't be involved in Palestine's future, either. Israel in general, really, because Palestine's future should be as an individual, sovereign, and separate state from Israel. Which, as we all should be able to agree on, should remain its own individual, sovereign, and separate state from Palestine.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumble 10/04/25 2:16:33 AM #75:	DnDer posted... Which, as we all should be able to agree on, should remain its own individual, sovereign, and separate state from Palestine. Only if measures are taken comparable to those taken in Japan post-WW2, to prevent them ever being able to wage war (other than genuine self-defence) again. --- (2025-02-24) Not changing my sig until I feel like it. <cite>Trumble posted [p:986620527] in Trump's Ce... [t:81048194]...</cite> <quote>DnDer posted... </cite><quote>Which, as we all should be able to agree on, should remain its own individual, sovereign, and separate state from Palestine.</quote>Only if measures are taken comparable to those taken in Japan post-WW2, to prevent them ever being able to wage war (other than genuine self-defence) again.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
madramzay 10/04/25 4:34:20 AM #76:	DnDer posted... But it also serves the additional propaganda needs as "hostages" are victims (and thus gives rise to Israeli victimization narratives for the purpose of garnering international support) and "prisoners" are criminals and terrorists and Bad People. And if Palestinians just happen to be those prisoners, then, doesn't that just nicely fit the narrative? Yeah, I'm leaning towards this too. I really hope this is the end of the war. The people of Palestine may finally be able to enjoy the peace and security they deserve. Hope this really ends up being a fair deal for all Palestinians, Gaza AND West Bank. Never thought I'd see it in my lifetime. Trying to contain my hope and excitement, doing a terrible job! <cite>madramzay posted [p:986620995] in Trump's Ce... [t:81048194]...</cite> <quote>DnDer posted... </cite><quote>But it also serves the additional propaganda needs as "hostages" are victims (and thus gives rise to Israeli victimization narratives for the purpose of garnering international support) and "prisoners" are criminals and terrorists and Bad People. And if Palestinians just happen to be those prisoners, then, doesn't that just nicely fit the narrative?</quote>Yeah, I'm leaning towards this too. I really hope this is the end of the war. The people of Palestine may finally be able to enjoy the peace and security they deserve. Hope this really ends up being a fair deal for all Palestinians, Gaza AND West Bank. Never thought I'd see it in my lifetime. Trying to contain my hope and excitement, doing a terrible job!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
El_Dustino 10/04/25 4:40:01 AM #77:	I might be a doomer on this topic but I feel like they're just going to mulch all of Palestine no matter what agreement is reached. --- The two most beautiful words in any language: I forgive. AC:NL Dream Address: 5700-3355-4304 <cite>El_Dustino posted [p:986621009] in Trump's Ce... [t:81048194]...</cite> <quote>I might be a doomer on this topic but I feel like they're just going to mulch all of Palestine no matter what agreement is reached. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sir_Will 10/04/25 5:19:40 AM #78:	FFTHEWINNER posted... (it still wants to be involved in Gaza's future. Yeah, that ain't happening) That's their sticking point? It's a miracle they're being offered amnesty to piss off, they sure as hell wouldn't be allowed to be running the place. --- River Song: Well, I was off to this gay gypsy bar mitzvah for the disabled when I thought 'Gosh, the Third Reich's a bit rubbish, I think i'll kill the Fuhrer' <cite>Sir_Will posted [p:986621125] in Trump's Ce... [t:81048194]...</cite> <quote>FFTHEWINNER posted... </cite><quote>(it still wants to be involved in Gaza's future. Yeah, that ain't happening)</quote>That's their sticking point? It's a miracle they're being offered amnesty to piss off, they sure as hell wouldn't be allowed to be running the place.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumble 10/04/25 6:20:07 AM #79:	Sir_Will posted... That's their sticking point? It's a miracle they're being offered amnesty to piss off, they sure as hell wouldn't be allowed to be running the place. While its a bit ambiguous, the impression I got is that they want to be involved in the negotiations to start the process, and are not promising anything either way about beyond that. Which is still far more than they deserve to get. --- (2025-02-24) Not changing my sig until I feel like it. <cite>Trumble posted [p:986621346] in Trump's Ce... [t:81048194]...</cite> <quote>Sir_Will posted... </cite><quote>That's their sticking point? It's a miracle they're being offered amnesty to piss off, they sure as hell wouldn't be allowed to be running the place.</quote>While its a bit ambiguous, the impression I got is that they want to be involved in the negotiations to start the process, and are not promising anything either way about beyond that.Which is still far more than they deserve to get.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DnDer 10/04/25 9:32:49 AM #80:	Trumble posted... Only if measures are taken comparable to those taken in Japan post-WW2, to prevent them ever being able to wage war (other than genuine self-defence) again. I've said before in this forum that I think demilitarization for Israel like Japan got its a good idea. I'm on board with them being able to act in actual self-defense, but I'm very much not in board with them having offensive capabilities anymore. madramzay posted... The people of Palestine may finally be able to enjoy the peace and security they deserve. That doesn't happen without a sovereign Palestine. Peace and security for today people don't exist as long as Israel is "administrating" and occupying what should be a second state of its own. El_Dustino posted... I might be a doomer on this topic but I feel like they're just going to mulch all of Palestine no matter what agreement is reached. 50/50 on that, given how openly genocidal the rhetoric has been from Likud and other hardline conservative influences in power. They do have a habit of breaking ceasefires, after all, and I can't imagine how they'll react to the possibility of long term peace, especially since long term peace directly endangers Netanyahu's rule and his immunity from prosecution. (Why did that sound so familiar...?) --- What has books ever teached us? -- Captain Afrohead Subject-verb agreement. -- t3h 0n3 <cite>DnDer posted [p:986622126] in Trump's Ce... [t:81048194]...</cite> <quote>Trumble posted... </cite><quote>Only if measures are taken comparable to those taken in Japan post-WW2, to prevent them ever being able to wage war (other than genuine self-defence) again.</quote>I've said before in this forum that I think demilitarization for Israel like Japan got its a good idea.I'm on board with them being able to act in actual self-defense, but I'm very much not in board with them having offensive capabilities anymore.madramzay posted... </cite><quote>The people of Palestine may finally be able to enjoy the peace and security they deserve.</quote>That doesn't happen without a sovereign Palestine. Peace and security for today people don't exist as long as Israel is "administrating" and occupying what should be a second state of its own.El_Dustino posted... </cite><quote>I might be a doomer on this topic but I feel like they're just going to mulch all of Palestine no matter what agreement is reached.</quote>50/50 on that, given how openly genocidal the rhetoric has been from Likud and other hardline conservative influences in power. They do have a habit of breaking ceasefires, after all, and I can't imagine how they'll react to the possibility of long term peace, especially since long term peace directly endangers Netanyahu's rule and his immunity from prosecution. (Why did that sound so familiar...?)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Scardude 10/04/25 10:04:00 AM #81:	El_Dustino posted... I might be a doomer on this topic but I feel like they're just going to mulch all of Palestine no matter what agreement is reached. Bibi was not guaranteed to win the elections coming up next year. So you have every right to be a doomer as he tries to use what power he still has. --- Above all things, never be afraid. The enemy who forces you to retreat is himself afraid of you at that very moment. <cite>Scardude posted [p:986622320] in Trump's Ce... [t:81048194]...</cite> <quote>El_Dustino posted... </cite><quote>I might be a doomer on this topic but I feel like they're just going to mulch all of Palestine no matter what agreement is reached.</quote>Bibi was not guaranteed to win the elections coming up next year. So you have every right to be a doomer as he tries to use what power he still has. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
madramzay 10/04/25 1:53:02 PM #82:	DnDer posted... I've said before in this forum that I think demilitarization for Israel like Japan got its a good idea. I'm on board with them being able to act in actual self-defense, but I'm very much not in board with them having offensive capabilities anymore. That doesn't happen without a sovereign Palestine. Peace and security for today people don't exist as long as Israel is "administrating" and occupying what should be a second state of its own. Totally agree. I just hope this can be the first small step to achieving the goal. Palestine needs stability and a solid foundation right now. Health, infrastructure, education etc. Disarming Israel, bringing their war criminals to justice and returning the land they stole would solve like 90% of all issues in the region overnight. It's unfortunate that is not going to happen right now. The next generation of Palestinian lawyers, politicians, teachers, doctors, activists and soldiers, if need be, can achieve this, but they need a solid foundation and an end to the Genocide immediately. <cite>madramzay posted [p:986624079] in Trump's Ce... [t:81048194]...</cite> <quote>DnDer posted... </cite><quote>I've said before in this forum that I think demilitarization for Israel like Japan got its a good idea.I'm on board with them being able to act in actual self-defense, but I'm very much not in board with them having offensive capabilities anymore.That doesn't happen without a sovereign Palestine. Peace and security for today people don't exist as long as Israel is "administrating" and occupying what should be a second state of its own.</quote>Totally agree. I just hope this can be the first small step to achieving the goal. Palestine needs stability and a solid foundation right now. Health, infrastructure, education etc. Disarming Israel, bringing their war criminals to justice and returning the land they stole would solve like 90% of all issues in the region overnight. It's unfortunate that is not going to happen right now. The next generation of Palestinian lawyers, politicians, teachers, doctors, activists and soldiers, if need be, can achieve this, but they need a solid foundation and an end to the Genocide immediately.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BunkerBoy 10/04/25 11:27:17 PM #83:	Well, Israel attacked again after Hamas agreed to hostage release https://www.nbcnews.com/world/middle-east/israel-strikes-gaza-trump-calls-stop-bombing-rcna235583 <cite>BunkerBoy posted [p:986628572] in Trump's Ce... [t:81048194]...</cite> <quote>Well, Israel attacked again after Hamas agreed to hostage release https://www.nbcnews.com/world/middle-east/israel-strikes-gaza-trump-calls-stop-bombing-rcna235583</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
El_Dustino 10/04/25 11:28:51 PM #84:	Damn, how many minutes did that last? --- The two most beautiful words in any language: I forgive. AC:NL Dream Address: 5700-3355-4304 <cite>El_Dustino posted [p:986628588] in Trump's Ce... [t:81048194]...</cite> <quote>Damn, how many minutes did that last?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Strider102 10/04/25 11:30:03 PM #85:	BunkerBoy posted... Well, Israel attacked again after Hamas agreed to hostage release https://www.nbcnews.com/world/middle-east/israel-strikes-gaza-trump-calls-stop-bombing-rcna235583 Absolutely no one could have seen that coming. Absolutely no one. --- "I dreamt I was a moron." <cite>Strider102 posted [p:986628597] in Trump's Ce... [t:81048194]...</cite> <quote>BunkerBoy posted... </cite><quote>Well, Israel attacked again after Hamas agreed to hostage release https://www.nbcnews.com/world/middle-east/israel-strikes-gaza-trump-calls-stop-bombing-rcna235583</quote>Absolutely no one could have seen that coming.Absolutely no one.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FFTHEWINNER 10/04/25 11:39:03 PM #86:	BunkerBoy posted... Well, Israel attacked again after Hamas agreed to hostage release https://www.nbcnews.com/world/middle-east/israel-strikes-gaza-trump-calls-stop-bombing-rcna235583 Ceasefire still hasn't been officially started. Just an FYI. Hopefully it starts pretty quickly though. Enough murder already. --- WHO AM I?FFTHEWINNER. WHO ARE YOU?URTHELOSER http://i.imgur.com/xgSex.png <cite>FFTHEWINNER posted [p:986628663] in Trump's Ce... [t:81048194]...</cite> <quote>BunkerBoy posted... </cite><quote>Well, Israel attacked again after Hamas agreed to hostage release https://www.nbcnews.com/world/middle-east/israel-strikes-gaza-trump-calls-stop-bombing-rcna235583</quote>Ceasefire still hasn't been officially started. Just an FYI. Hopefully it starts pretty quickly though. Enough murder already.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vegy 10/04/25 11:41:08 PM #87:	Didn't trump tell Isreal to stop attacking, no one listens to him --- https://i.imgur.com/EoGWPMu.gif https://i.imgur.com/dWmUFeV.gif https://i.imgur.com/xpoEaeu.gif <cite>Vegy posted [p:986628676] in Trump's Ce... [t:81048194]...</cite> <quote>Didn't trump tell Isreal to stop attacking, no one listens to him</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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