Current Events > Pokemon plans up to 2030 have leaked

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https://www.reddit.com/r/GamingLeaksAndRumours/s/xdw2n2DB5h

Project Seed is interesting since it has all the regions.

This is the most Game Freak thing I've ever seen and is borderline satirical
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/6/64e6cd32.jpg

CRON posted...

This is the most Game Freak thing I've ever seen and is borderline satirical
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/6/64e6cd32.jpg

Charizard is 4 foot NOTHING

Seed sounds amazing in paper, but given how badly GF's engine has struggled with a single region in recent games, I really don't trust them to make a game that can have four regions and a frame rate.

Just let the Xenoblade team make it

For some unsurprising news, the leak also reveals that Pokemon games are given pretty small budgets compared to the amount of money they rake in.

CRON posted...

This is the most Game Freak thing I've ever seen and is borderline satirical
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/6/64e6cd32.jpg

Manlet Charizard.

TomClark posted...

Seed sounds amazing in paper, but given how badly GF's engine has struggled with a single region in recent games, I really don't trust them to make a game that can have four regions and a frame rate.

There is zero correlation between the number of regions and the game's framerate.

pokedude900 posted...

There is zero correlation between the number of regions and the game's framerate.

gamefreak cant even make a game with one regions worth of resources function properly

Sure they can. They did it 8 times excluding remakes and spin-offs. They even did 2 regions once.

pokedude900 posted...

There is zero correlation between the number of regions and the game's framerate.

Knowing gamefreak, each region will be fully loaded at once with no resource saving measures.

Gaia exists already if you are a romhack player

Rob_the_Ninja posted...

For some unsurprising news, the leak also reveals that Pokemon games are given pretty small budgets compared to the amount of money they rake in.

that explains it a lot but on the otherhand that is a good model imo cuz the AAA budgets are insane so i don't mind it much.....but at least invest in a better well optimized engine GF you make mad bucks on pokemon so money and time shouldn't be an issue with hiring more staff

Mist_Turnips posted...

Knowing gamefreak, each region will be fully loaded at once with no resource saving measures.

Has everyone just forgotten they made Legends Arceus?

Yes Scarlet and Violet ran like shit. But that doesn't mean they're incapable of making a functional game.

pokedude900 posted...

Sure they can. They did it 8 times excluding remakes and spin-offs. They even did 2 regions once.

Dawg if you still have utmost confidence in gamefreak after the mess that was S/V then idk what will convince you otherwise

pokedude900 posted...

Yes Scarlet and Violet ran like shit. But that doesn't mean they're incapable of making a functional game.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/7/70745452.png
Literally every single one of their 3D games run like shit, and even from the trailers ZA has an awful framerate which is especially bad considering how that's the one that isn't turn based.

CRON posted...

This is the most Game Freak thing I've ever seen and is borderline satirical
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/6/64e6cd32.jpg

they really need to just stop making pokemon so small

pokedude900 posted...

Has everyone just forgotten they made Legends Arceus?

Yes Scarlet and Violet ran like shit. But that doesn't mean they're incapable of making a functional game.

Legends Arceus also looked like trash and didnt run well either.

Modern gamefreak clearly struggles with making graphics, frame rate, and getting the game to actually function come together at once. Thats quite obvious

ssb_yunglink2 posted...

Legends Arceus also looked like trash and didnt run well either.

Modern gamefreak clearly struggles with making graphics, frame rate, and making the game actually function come together at once. Thats quite obvious

ive said it before ill say it again they should have monolith soft train some of there coders

The Project Seed concept map confirms that Kitakami is indeed in Poke Japan, directly south of Sinnoh.

Why would they do Legends Galar? Isn't Galar the least popular region as it should be?

Do Legends Johto, you cowards!

AceMos posted...

ive said it before ill say it again they should have monolith soft train some of there coders

Or just have monoliths actual team get involved with world design

They are wizards when it comes to that

ssb_yunglink2 posted...

Or just have monoliths actual team get involved with world design

They are wizards when it comes to that

monolith is to busy with their own projects for that

PowerOats posted...

Charizard is 4 foot NOTHING

Pokemon are small in general. The anime changed people perception because they made them taller

ssb_yunglink2 posted...

Dawg if you still have utmost confidence in gamefreak after the mess that was S/V then idk what will convince you otherwise

I'm saying that the number of regions has nothing to do with whether the game runs properly or not. Heart Gold and Soul Silver had twice as many regions as Scarlet and Violet and ran flawlessly. And Arceus was semi-open world while having instanced areas.

I'm not saying this game is definitely going to have great performance. Just that you're making really dumb assumptions based on faulty logic.

Piplup_Sniper posted...

Pokemon are small in general. The anime changed people perception because they made them taller

The ghastly in that image seems to dwarf the charizard tho lol

Piplup_Sniper posted...

Pokemon are small in general. The anime changed people perception because they made them taller

and the games should take a page from the anime

makes the pokemon feel like actual living creatures that way

Piplup_Sniper posted...

Pokemon are small in general. The anime changed people perception because they made them taller

Charizard is 5 foot 7. He's not a giant by any means, but he should be taller than the player character.

pokedude900 posted...

I'm saying that the number of regions has nothing to do with whether the game runs properly or not. Heart Gold and Soul Silver had twice as many regions as Scarlet and Violet and ran flawlessly. And Arceus was semi-open world while having instanced areas.

I'm not saying this game is definitely going to have great performance. Just that you're making really dumb assumptions based on faulty logic.

Comparing the sprite based games to the 3d ones as if gamefreak is remotely operating under that level of quality is the faulty logic here.

We are not in the HG/SS times anymore and have not been since Gen 6 dawg. You know this. Arceus also again, did not run well so idk why youre acting as if thats a shining diamond in terms of performance

PowerOats posted...

Charizard is 4 foot NOTHING

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/6/6592ac45.jpg

ssb_yunglink2 posted...

Comparing the sprite based games to the 3d ones as if gamefreak is remotely operating under that level of quality is the faulty logic here.

We are not in the HG/SS times anymore and have not been since Gen 6 dawg. You know this

Doesn't matter. The original statement was that they can't make a game with more than 1 region and a decent framerate. There is proof that they can. Region count is an arbitrary metric for game size and totally independent of performance.

pokedude900 posted...

Doesn't matter. The original statement was that they can't make a game with more than 1 region and a decent framerate. There is proof that they can. Region count is an arbitrary metric for game size and totally independent of performance.

If you ignore all context and also every single 3d Pokemon game then you might have a point.

you dont though because you know whats being said you just dont like it. Nobody is talking about the gamefreak of the mid 2000 to late 2000s.

pokedude900 posted...

Doesn't matter. The original statement was that they can't make a game with more than 1 region and a decent framerate.

"Yes! I scored a semantics point against a rando on the internet!"
-pokedude900

ssb_yunglink2 posted...

If you ignore all context and also every single 3d Pokemon game then you might have a point.

you dont though because you know whats being said you just dont like it. Nobody is talking about the gamefreak of the mid 2000 to late 2000s.

Do you think there is a correlation between region count and performance? Yes or no?

pokedude900 posted...

Do you think there is a correlation between region count and performance? Yes or no?

When I know modern gamefreak is at the helm, absolutely fucking yes.

Youre acting as if this question is being posed in a vacuum. Gamefreak simps are wild

ssb_yunglink2 posted...

When I know modern gamefreak is at the helm, absolutely fucking yes.

Youre acting as if this question is being posed in a vacuum. Gamefreak simps are wild

dude no one is defending gamefreaks lack of talent

AceMos posted...

dude no one is defending gamefreaks lack of talent

pokedude is trying to say theyre still capable to operate at the level they were during HG/SS when the last 3 gens show that they are not.

A multiple region game with current game freak would be a mess.

ssb_yunglink2 posted...

When I know modern gamefreak is at the helm, absolutely fucking yes.

When their modern games have bad performance and one region, it refutes that claim, wouldn't you say?

ssb_yunglink2 posted...

When I know modern gamefreak is at the helm, absolutely fucking yes.

Youre acting as if this question is being posed in a vacuum. Gamefreak simps are wild

You engaged in an argument with me over my statement that such a correlation doesn't exist. It WAS in a vacuum until you started changing the discussion into something it wasn't.

They have made games with 2 regions that run better than games with 1 region. They have also made games with 1 region that run just as well as games with 2 regions. Therefor, there is no correlation, and you have nothing to disprove that fact.

Just say you expect the game to run horribly because it's 3D and (possibly) open world. Not because it has more than 1 region.

GATTJT posted...

When their modern games have bad performance and one region, it refutes that claim, wouldn't you say?

So how would adding more regions not make that even worse? As I first said they cant even make a well performing game with the resources of just one region

so basically, more lazy half assed games that will barely innovate or change up anything.

i dont need a crystal ball to know that shit...

ssb_yunglink2 posted...

So how would adding more regions not make that even worse?

It probably would make it worse, I'm not disagreeing on that

GATTJT posted...

It probably would make it worse, I'm not disagreeing on that

And thats literally all Im trying to say here

If you're hellbent on focusing on modern Game Freak regardless of my original point, I could also point to LGPE. Those games are garbage for a number of reasons, but performance isn't one of them.

pokedude900 posted...

You engaged in an argument with me over my statement that such a correlation doesn't exist. It WAS in a vacuum until you started changing the discussion into something it wasn't.

They have made games with 2 regions that run better than games with 1 region. They have also made games with 1 region that run just as well as games with 2 regions. Therefor, there is no correlation, and you have nothing to disprove that fact.

Just say you expect the game to run horribly because it's 3D and (possibly) open world. Not because it has more than 1 region.

More regions will make the strain theyre already experiencing with one region worse.

That is literally all Im saying and its crazy to argue that it wouldnt with the way theyve been handling their games for the last several years.

So this means the Black and White remake is not coming out in the next 5 years

ZevLoveDOOM posted...

so basically, more lazy half assed games that will barely innovate or change up anything.

i dont need a crystal ball to know that shit...

Seed sounds pretty ambitious at least, and I like that the new Legends game seems more like Arceus than Z-A.

pokedude900 posted...

If you're hellbent on focusing on modern Game Freak regardless of my original point, I could also point to LGPE. Those games are garbage for a number of reasons, but performance isn't one of them.

You could point to the game with the least amount of resources in the 3d era, but if youre arguing that modern gamefreak can handle the resources of multiple regions in one game I probably wouldnt

Their performance suffers when they try to anything thats not a grid based game with very few Pokemon. Thats what weve seen as of now since they went 3d

ssb_yunglink2 posted...

You could point to the game with the least amount of resources in the 3d era, but if youre arguing that modern gamefreak can handle the resources of multiple regions in one game I probably wouldnt

Their performance suffers when they try to anything thats not a grid based game with very few Pokemon. Thats what weve seen as of now since they went 3d

Moving the goalposts I see.