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Hexenherz
10/24/25 1:28:23 AM
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https://www.dexerto.com/entertainment/armed-police-swarm-student-after-ai-mistakes-bag-of-doritos-for-a-weapon-3273512/

Basically a school uses AI surveillance of students to monitor for threats. The AI recognized a bag of chips in the kid's pocket as a weapon, armed police showed up, scared the shit out of him.

The company that makes the AI product says it's all working as intended even if it issues false positives like this.

And the school said it would offer counseling services to any student who requests it but also the student himself said no one from the school has reached out to him.

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OmniNakago
10/24/25 1:39:02 AM
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AI did its job in identifying him as a black man.

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Shotgunnova
10/24/25 2:13:28 AM
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"In the AI's defense," said the police chief, "the bag was loaded."

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/7/7b2fdfbd.jpg

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YugiNoob
10/24/25 2:16:24 AM
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God bless AI for keeping our kids safe from Doritos

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Sir_Will
10/24/25 2:20:41 AM
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Fuck that school. Fuck that company. Fuck AI.

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Umbreon
10/24/25 2:22:41 AM
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Snacking while Black.

Thank God they didn't kill that boy.

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BlueKat
10/24/25 2:37:00 AM
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I feel strong lawsuit vibes here...

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St0rmFury
10/24/25 2:46:25 AM
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So instead of scanning for threats, the AI scanned for treats.

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HeeathLivesOn
10/24/25 2:46:50 AM
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Hooking current AI into any critical system like this with automation is a terrible mistake. AI can certainly be useful here for generating 'alerts' that a human could review and act upon, but we're not nearly at the point of reliability in AI for it to take decisive action like that.

Didn't read the article though, can't say if that's how it was implemented or not.

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JohnEtrav
10/24/25 2:47:03 AM
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Spicy chili Doritos are fantastic but they always get you in some shit.

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HeeathLivesOn
10/24/25 2:49:53 AM
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Cool Ranch or go home

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__starsnostars
10/24/25 3:13:56 AM
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So does this count as swatting?

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ZevLoveDOOM
10/24/25 4:39:55 AM
#13:


well you can use Doritos as shurikens and accidentally cut someone...
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GrandConjuraton
10/24/25 4:53:48 AM
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Sir_Will posted...
Fuck that school. Fuck that company. Fuck AI.

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UnfairRepresent
10/24/25 4:55:25 AM
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Sir_Will posted...
Fuck that school. Fuck that company. Fuck AI.


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mercurydude
10/24/25 5:22:07 AM
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Trusting tech that can't even draw a human hand correctly as if its judgment is infallible. SMH.

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Thermador446
10/24/25 5:32:14 AM
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Not an ideal weapon, but I do pack Flamin' Hot.
A handful of those on your eye and you aren't seeing for like a couple hours out of that eye.

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gu-gohan
10/24/25 5:38:56 AM
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Sir_Will posted...
Fuck that school. Fuck that company. Fuck AI.


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Zikten
10/24/25 6:15:30 AM
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Hexenherz posted...
The company that makes the AI product says it's all working as intended even if it issues false positives like this.
That makes no sense though. It literally isn't working as intended. They are full of shit
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MNThunder
10/24/25 6:23:11 AM
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Zikten posted...
That makes no sense though. It literally isn't working as intended. They are full of shit

Seems like the company want the AI to be so sensitive that anything that might be potentially dangerous gets flagged. Which in itself is extremely dangerous. It just takes one over zealous/nervous cop to have a dead kid(s). Or to have the police stop caring because of all the false positives they will get, so when a legit threat happens they take their time thinking it's just another false positive.
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DuneMan
10/24/25 6:25:41 AM
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What a country... If a school shooter doesn't get you it'll be a dozen police officers that shoot you for having pockets... -_-

Also, this kind of story demonstrates how AI isn't really 'intelligent' at all. They basically had a program designed to identify bulges in clothing and it triggered an armed response when someone had a bag of chips in their pocket.

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Giacomo_Hawkins
10/24/25 6:26:46 AM
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St0rmFury posted...
So instead of scanning for threats, the AI scanned for treats.

Comedy gold.

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MarshMellow
10/24/25 6:29:07 AM
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Someone should send a white kid in with Doritos in his pocket and see if he gets flagged.
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WingsOfGood
10/24/25 6:46:47 AM
#24:


AI just doing what a normal human cop does
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008Zulu
10/24/25 7:28:45 AM
#25:


I bet the weak-ass AI registers actual firearms as a donkey, or something.

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Sansoldier
10/24/25 7:42:16 AM
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Hate having a 90%+ correct streak when guessing the race of the victim.

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action52
10/24/25 7:44:06 AM
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Sansoldier posted...
Hate having a 90%+ correct streak when guessing the race of the victim.
I hate it too. I really, really hate it.

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sfcalimari
10/24/25 7:44:09 AM
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The whole point of being human is that you can evaluate a situation and respond to it immediately.

AI can be used to suggest patterns in massive amounts of information. AI is not needed to determine "doritos or gun."

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darkmaian23
10/24/25 8:05:59 AM
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24x7x365 Monitoring Always on, always watching
From the technology's webpage. Creepy as shit, in my opinion. Ubiquitous surveillance comes with a ton of downsides, and it seems like nobody is ever willing to talk about them. I recall reading a few months ago that there are smoke detectors now that have cameras and microphones that are being installed in stores, public housing, and even bathrooms that feature "threat detection".

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bfslick50
10/24/25 8:27:33 AM
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This is the sorry state of schools. They don't really have a way of preventing school shootings. Actual laws and regulations need to be passed, but everyone views that as a lost cause schools are like "I got to do something." They buy the software because how can more information hurt? Then the software identifies a threat and everyone at the school panics because what if the software is correct? No school employee wants to be the one standing there if it is a gun that's pulled out so they ask the police to handle it and the police dial it up to 11 because that's the training for policing in America.

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YugiNoob
10/24/25 8:30:44 AM
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Oh yeah, something similar happened today. A guy from my office was carrying a tripod down the street, and someone mustve thought it was a gun, because the building behind got put on high alert.

They said someone reported a guy with a rifle. So sheriffs showed up to ask us about it. Since we (the people from the office) knew who they were looking for and that it was all just a misunderstanding, we just called him and he talked to the sheriffs for a few minutes and everything was cleared up.

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monkmith
10/24/25 9:04:39 AM
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true justice would see that guy sue the AI company that produced that bullshit for everything they're worth, sinking it in the process.

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Sir_Will
10/24/25 9:17:44 AM
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HeeathLivesOn posted...
Hooking current AI into any critical system like this with automation is a terrible mistake. AI can certainly be useful here for generating 'alerts' that a human could review and act upon, but we're not nearly at the point of reliability in AI for it to take decisive action like that.
Exactly. But somebody did have a picture apparently Doesn't seem to say if they had the image before the attack though.

Police later showed him the AI-captured image that triggered the alert. The crumpled Doritos bag in his pocket had been mistaken for a gun.

Seems like it contacts police directly:
It scans existing surveillance footage and alerts police in real time when it detects what it believes to be a weapon.

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MNThunder
10/24/25 9:18:37 AM
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monkmith posted...
true justice would see that guy sue the AI company that produced that bullshit for everything they're worth, sinking it in the process.

Not sure if he could. Most of these companies have their clients, aka the school in this case, sign agreements that they hold full responsibility.
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Zikten
10/24/25 9:50:06 AM
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If cops kill someone innocent because of this AI, can the AI company be sued by the victim's family?
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Voidgolem
10/24/25 9:52:37 AM
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this, among other things, is why I have no particular faith in machine vision as a standalone product.

I don't think the tech will ever be at a point where it can operate without human oversight

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monkmith
10/24/25 12:14:50 PM
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MNThunder posted...
Not sure if he could. Most of these companies have their clients, aka the school in this case, sign agreements that they hold full responsibility.
i know that the justice system is broken shit at this point but i cant see how a contract signed between two parties can somehow apply to a third party. i suspect what that means is that the student can sue the company but the school, which will also be facing a lawsuit and look to pass the buck, will not be able to turn around and sue the ai company.

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DipDipDiver
10/24/25 12:23:34 PM
#38:


This reminds me of that story from like 10 years ago where a kid got suspended for a poptart that he bit into the shape of a gun

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kingdrake2
10/24/25 12:42:11 PM
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Umbreon posted...
while Black.


anything results in a bad situation while black.

even being in the house can still get somebody killed :(. really fucking sucks.

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itcheyness
10/24/25 12:44:52 PM
#40:


OmniNakago posted...
AI did its job in identifying him as a black man.
Kinda makes me think of this lol

https://youtu.be/jqG1fX3ZaLQ?si=7nBHpcpRbbtE5-8x

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Zikten
10/24/25 1:14:52 PM
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DipDipDiver posted...
This reminds me of that story from like 10 years ago where a kid got suspended for a poptart that he bit into the shape of a gun
Also even further back I think in the 2000s there was a kid suspended for doing a finger gun motion while playing at recess
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kingdrake2
10/24/25 4:08:03 PM
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Zikten posted...
Also even further back I think in the 2000s there was a kid suspended for doing a finger gun motion while playing at recess


there was even one with the chicken strip scenario.

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EPR-radar
10/24/25 11:34:01 PM
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Zikten posted...
That makes no sense though. It literally isn't working as intended. They are full of shit
It is working as intended. The whole point of law enforcement AI slop is to create a way for police to harass (or worse) anyone they want, with all accountability shifted to the almighty AI oracle.

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Rantman
10/24/25 11:35:19 PM
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I have for a while thought AI is genuinely racist technology but this is a completely fucking different level

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nocturnal_traveler
10/24/25 11:45:22 PM
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But we're supposed to let AI take over everything, right?

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Mr_Karate_II
10/24/25 11:46:11 PM
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@Jagus, Ai is good right?

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DnDer
10/25/25 1:12:32 AM
#48:


Umbreon posted...
Snacking while Black.

Having AI look at you while black, even.

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Crazyman93
10/25/25 1:24:11 AM
#49:


Hexenherz posted...
The company that makes the AI product says it's all working as intended even if it issues false positives like this.
I mean, I hate to say it, but that's probably correct. If it wasn't sensitive enough and a shooting happened, people would be pissed. Rightly so.

The issue is not that the AI is too sensitive, the issue is that it went from AI observes threat to cops being called. It should have alerted someone to look at the fucking image. And if the AI is any good, it should be trainable. "Suspicious item identified" becomes "no, that's a bag of chips." And then the AI takes that into account.

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Jagus
10/25/25 7:38:13 AM
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I just want to say its annoying how Mr Karate is obsessed with me to the point hes pinging me in topics I havent even posted in when I have him on Ignore.

Get help buddy. And no, I cant see your posts right now either. I wish there was a way to turn off ping notifications.

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