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KFHEWUI
11/07/25 9:58:08 PM
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Researchers have discovered more than 111,000 spiders thriving in what appears to be the world's biggest spiderweb, deep inside a pitch-black cave on the Albanian-Greek border.

The "extraordinary" colony consists of a colossal web in a permanently dark zone of the cavern, according to a study published Oct. 17 in the journal Subterranean Biology. The web stretches 1,140 square feet (106 square meters) along the wall of a narrow, low-ceilinged passage near the entrance of the cave. It is a patchwork of thousands of individual, funnel-shaped webs, the researchers noted.

This is the first evidence of colonial behavior in two common spider species and likely represents the largest spiderweb in the world, said study lead author Istvn Urk, an associate professor of biology at Sapientia Hungarian University of Transylvania in Romania.

"The natural world still holds countless surprises for us," Urk told Live Science in an email. "If I were to attempt to put into words all the emotions that surged through me [when I saw the web], I would highlight admiration, respect, and gratitude. You have to experience it to truly know what it feels like."

The spider megacity is located in Sulfur Cave, a cavern that was hollowed out by sulfuric acid formed from the oxidation of hydrogen sulfide in groundwater. While the researchers revealed tantalizing new information about Sulfur Cave's spider colony, they weren't the first to see the giant web. Cavers with the Czech Speleological Society discovered it in 2022 during an expedition in the Vromoner Canyon. A team of scientists then visited the cave in 2024, plucking specimens from the web that Urk analyzed before going on his own expedition to Sulfur Cave.

This analysis revealed that two spider species live in the colony: Tegenaria domestica, known as the barn funnel weaver or domestic house spider, and Prinerigone vagans. On their visit to the cave, Urk and his colleagues estimated there were about 69,000 T. domestica and more than 42,000 P. vagans specimens. DNA analyses for the new research also confirmed that these are the dominant species in the colony, Urk said.

Sulfur Cave's spider colony is one of the largest ever documented, and the species involved weren't previously known to assemble and cooperate in this way, Urk said. T. domestica and P. vagans are widespread near human dwellings, but the colony is "a unique case of two species cohabiting within the same web structure in these huge numbers," he said.

Scientists would normally expect barn funnel weavers to prey on P. vagans, but the lack of light in the cave may impair the spiders' vision, according to the study.

The spiders instead eat non-biting midges, which in turn feast on white microbial biofilms slimy secretions that protect microorganisms against threats in their environment from sulfur-oxidizing bacteria in the cave. A sulfur-rich stream fed by natural springs flows through Sulfur Cave, filling the cavern with hydrogen sulfide and helping microbes, midges and their predators survive, the researchers wrote in the study.

The spiders' sulfur-rich diet influences their microbiomes, causing them to be significantly less diverse than the microbiomes of spiders from the same two species outside the cave, gut content analyses revealed. Molecular data also showed that the spiders inside the cave were genetically different from their relatives living outside, suggesting the cave-dwellers have adapted to their dingy surroundings.

"Often, we think we know a species completely, that we understand everything about it, yet unexpected discoveries can still occur," Urk said. "Some species exhibit remarkable genetic plasticity, which typically becomes apparent only under extreme conditions. Such conditions can elicit behaviors that are not observed under 'normal' circumstances."

It's important to preserve the colony, despite challenges that might arise from the location of the cave between two countries, Urk said. In the meantime, the researchers are working on another study that will reveal further clues about Sulfur Cave's inhabitants, he added.

https://www.livescience.com/animals/spiders/worlds-biggest-spiderweb-discovered-inside-sulfur-cave-with-111-000-arachnids-living-in-pitch-black

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Giacomo_Hawkins
11/07/25 10:03:29 PM
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KFHEWUI posted...
It's important to preserve the colony,

So we're not going to burn it with fire? That would be my first instinct, but I'll yield to the judgement of scientists in this instance.

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ImagineUsngAlts
11/07/25 10:06:01 PM
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Giacomo_Hawkins posted...
So we're not going to burn it with fire? That would be my first instinct, but I'll yield to the judgement of scientists in this instance.

Hopefully no nutcase decides to do just that.

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Evening_Dragon
11/07/25 10:11:05 PM
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Just looking at that literal web wall is so surreal.

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KFHEWUI
11/08/25 12:00:36 PM
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They found Shelob's lair!

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Ivynn
11/08/25 12:03:07 PM
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ImagineUsngAlts posted...
Hopefully no hero decides to do just that.


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vycebrand2
11/08/25 12:08:03 PM
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Thats a big nope.

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DrizztLink
11/08/25 12:08:52 PM
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take me down to the Spider City

where the cave's in hell and the walls are sticky

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voldothegr8
11/08/25 12:10:42 PM
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Here's a dude touching it.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/NfTOpvOtaB8

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Pikachuchupika
11/08/25 12:12:08 PM
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That's probably the biggest nope ever. That's a place I stay far far away from.
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ellis123
11/08/25 12:13:37 PM
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voldothegr8 posted...
Here's a dude touching it.
I fully expect to see an article about how some TikTok/Youtube loser throws themselves into the web for views.

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Southernfatman
11/08/25 12:18:09 PM
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Shelob is hiding there somewhere. But seriously that's cool. Spiders don't bother me and I leave them alone if I see one around the house. Poisonous ones are different of course.

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__aCEr__
11/08/25 12:24:01 PM
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The spiders have plenty of food as the cave is also home to lots of midges and spelunkers.

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kyujo
11/08/25 12:27:46 PM
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vycebrand2 posted...
Thats a big nope.


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IAmTheNakedMan
11/08/25 12:28:04 PM
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I'm not watching the video as I'm OK with photos but if I see them moving I'll shudder and cry.

So my question... What are they eating? Are they just eating each other because how on earth will they catch prey when that web is so visible?

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TMOG
11/08/25 12:30:25 PM
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Giacomo_Hawkins posted...
So we're not going to burn it with fire? That would be my first instinct, but I'll yield to the judgement of scientists in this instance.
Yes it's very necessary to kill thousands of spiders who are just living peacefully in a cave and not bothering anyone at all

Definitely not psychopathic behavior

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TMOG
11/08/25 12:31:51 PM
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IAmTheNakedMan posted...
So my question... What are they eating? Are they just eating each other because how on earth will they catch prey when that web is so visible?
The web's only visible because humans are shining lights on it, it's normally pitch black in the cave. They eat other tiny bugs that live in the cave and get caught.

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Eramir
11/08/25 12:32:32 PM
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I really don't like people joking about setting the cave on fire, not cute or funny to me.

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Pikachuchupika
11/08/25 12:40:18 PM
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voldothegr8 posted...
Here's a dude touching it.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/NfTOpvOtaB8

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AceMos
11/08/25 12:52:03 PM
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i thought spiderwebs degraded over time so do they have to constantly repair the webbing?

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DCinGA
11/08/25 1:24:35 PM
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True

At work, 90% of our water meter boxes have a Black Widow in them. Open the lid and it will hop on it's nest to protect it. If there are no eggs, the spider will scurry under the lip, out of view.

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Beany
11/08/25 1:32:06 PM
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Same, I've always liked spiders because they help with pests and I live in a part of the world without any species that go after humans.

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solosnake
11/08/25 1:57:05 PM
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is this fake AI stuff?

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vycebrand2
11/08/25 3:01:09 PM
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DCinGA posted...
True

At work, 90% of our water meter boxes have a Black Widow in them. Open the lid and it will hop on it's nest to protect it. If there are no eggs, the spider will scurry under the lip, out of view.
You also have false ones. The marking in on the other side. I always had to check when I saw one

I had a infestion of wolf spiders. A female that had a egg sac from a pallet that came from a feed store. Was a about the size of your hand.

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KFHEWUI
11/09/25 12:52:03 PM
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vycebrand2 posted...
I had a infestion of wolf spiders. A female that had a egg sac from a pallet that came from a feed store. Was a about the size of your hand.

Wolf Spiders are something else...

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Bigpapaplut
11/09/25 12:59:40 PM
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How long before the human virus destroys it?

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Pechabust
11/10/25 11:51:09 PM
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solosnake posted...
is this fake AI stuff?
There's videos of others with it so probably not.
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Shotgunnova
11/10/25 11:54:34 PM
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"So...who wants to go into the cave with 100,000+ spiders? Any takers?"

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HudGard
11/10/25 11:56:32 PM
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Looks and sounds like the premise of a Junji Ito manga

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Kami_no_Kami
11/11/25 12:10:58 AM
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Nope
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WingsOfGood
11/11/25 12:12:10 AM
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I bet they have a unique culture and throw spider parties

How many midges must there be to sustain that
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Metal_Gear_Raxis
11/11/25 12:13:30 AM
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Giacomo_Hawkins posted...
So we're not going to burn it with fire? That would be my first instinct, but I'll yield to the judgement of scientists in this instance.
No, god! Leave spiders alone, they're incredibly handy to have around.

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Mr_Karate_II
11/11/25 12:14:52 AM
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Quick burn it with fire

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WingsOfGood
11/11/25 12:14:53 AM
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Metal_Gear_Raxis posted...
No, god! Leave spiders alone, they're incredibly handy to have around.

They are all that stands between us and millions of midge swarms!
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008Zulu
11/11/25 12:16:44 AM
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I am legitimately shocked, that it wasn't here in Australia!

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voldothegr8
11/11/25 12:18:22 AM
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008Zulu posted...
I am legitimately shocked, that it wasn't here in Australia!
Largest spiderweb, not most venomous.

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mercurydude
11/11/25 12:19:39 AM
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Somehow Ungoliant returned.

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