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Last Post: 1:38:09am, 05/13/2024
Dudebusters posted...
Yeah but listen something something Genocide Joe in conclusion I can't vote to stop the people actually openly calling for genocide
I think it's more than fair to call Biden out for continuing to wag his finger while still providing them arms.
Biden might be able to be pushed to do better, and even as is, sadly, he is still orders of magnitude superior to the average Republican.
Still, biggest push should be to actually make him do better. There are people who have lost family and friends to what's happening in Gaza, those people probably won't be easily swayed to vote Biden even if Trump would be worse, because Biden has likely crossed their red line.
It isn't logical to sit it out and maybe let Trump win, but it isn't a good strategy to just chastise and mock people with some concerns and reservations, since those can go very deep.
I've seen people on this board effectively mock Arab Americans for being hesitant to vote Biden, saying that they more or less should get ready for the camps here in the US if Agent Orange wins. That was slightly paraphrasing, but that is a disgusting sentiment, to hold that out. It is reductive and won't do much to actually convince people .
I still plan on voting Biden, even in Missouri, because at the very least I care about harm reduction. But at some point these leaders should be pushed to do better, if only because they might actually help their chances of winning election if they do. And I do get tired of people more outraged by people who are pissed with Biden than they seemingly do at what Israel is doing.