Board 8 > Simpsons Mafia Topic 5: Don't blame me, I voted for scum!

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Forceful_Dragon posted...

Also for SBell to explain why he ended on the (99% presumed) town day 1 and didn't cast a vote on day 2.

I liked my vote where it was day 1.

I wasn't sold on the lynch day 2 but it was determined.

Peter Griffin, Town WRONG SHOW! (vanilla)

But please, tickle your fancy with the godfather theories.

too many damn vanillas

you can still vote for someone else, I did. Granted I was wrong and voted for our day cop, but the Isquen lynch felt off so it was an attempt to do something else.

changmas posted...

too many damn vanillas

Indeed.

Forceful_Dragon posted...

you can still vote for someone else, I did. Granted I was wrong and voted for our day cop, but the Isquen lynch felt off so it was an attempt to do something else.

but why drop a meaningless vote that I didn't have enough feeling for? that's no different than just not voting.

Urge to tickle fancy rising

Obellisk posted...

but why drop a meaningless vote that I didn't have enough feeling for?

You didn't have enough time to get a feeling on anyone?

Enchantress posted...

Urge to tickle fancy rising

I mean... don't you have the power to clear me or something?

You shouldn't, that would be wasteful, but still.

Enchantress posted...

Urge to tickle fancy rising

honestly confirming SBell would be a fine use of your scan today, but the correct play is still to wait for JC before you pull the trigger.

Obellisk posted...

I mean... don't you have the power to clear me or something?

You shouldn't, that would be wasteful, but still.

No, I feel like a godfather would also be immune to the flavour cop half of the scanning power. Homer scanning as Petah is cutesy twee

Forceful_Dragon posted...

You didn't have enough time to get a feeling on anyone?

not really. And I've voices that in numerous occasions.

I remember being anti wallz early in game and then feeling better about him, except when linking him to Ulti. who I admit must be town by now but would still feel better to see his flip, but I can see that's stupid.

there was isquen who was in my never lynch pile, if I'm remembering right.

I was prepared to lynch corrik at one point.

I mean I got feels.

Flavor godfather would feel like a major departure to me personally. It means your day scan can't be fooled since we have a clear flavor split, but I think the balance is that it's (A) every other day and (B) can't be used day 1 so if there is a standard godfather you can't snipe him until day 2 at the earliest.

Enchantress posted...

No, I feel like a godfather would also be immune to the flavour cop half of the scanning power. Homer scanning as Petah is cutesy twee

would it be? I don't think you can justify that. As a host Sultan would need to live in shame for a while.

changmas posted...

too many damn vanillas

And that's another reason why Death is at the bottom

The regular cop is only every other day so a regular godfather is only half a role. It's common to have flavour scan immune scum roles.

Obellisk posted...

would it be? I don't think you can justify that. As a host Sultan would need to live in shame for a while.

Confused, I dont see why it wouldnt be immune to both. It would be weak if it only dodged an every other night scan

And what, scum were straight up told or had it heavily implied that town had a favor cop?

How is the theoretical flavor godfather to know what to same time claim if scanned?

I want to know what the rest of you are claiming.

this role scans as Peter Griffin, town WRONG SHOW! (Vanilla)

Vanillas are renamed so if a role cop exists, it actually has to tell you what the renamed role it would scan as is too.

and not giving that info would make it very clear that x role isnt in the game?

red13n posted...

I want to know what the rest of you are claiming.

Everyone but JC and myself has claimed now. Though you still haven't claimed flavor. Lea, chang and Sbell all claimed it clarified their claims today.

Forceful_Dragon posted...

Everyone but JC and myself has claimed now. Though you still haven't claimed flavor. Lea, chang and Sbell all claimed it clarified their claims today.

My flavor literally doesn't matter and thus will stay unknown unless relevant.

Anyway you should probably claim FD.

So should JC i assume.

red13n posted...

Anyway you should probably claim FD.

I probably should, yup. Everyone already assumed they knew my role from day 1, but I've neither confirmed nor denied.

Just the same, I think I'll wait for JCs miraculous "self confirming" claim first.

i honestly dont care what people assume.

as if Im full claiming before you fd lol

my role has absolutely nothing to do with you but youve mentioned I need to claim about 6 times in 3 pages and its kind of annoying

anyways still deciding if its in towns best interest to full claim. What Ill say is that I can confirm myself at literally any moment.

saying jc you should claim more will not change my position on full claiming so I would not suggest you ask me another 6 times over the next 2 pages

I'm definitely in the "FD should claim" camp.

also my thought about Kirby is he may have been a town power role who got scanned n1 by corrik, the scrub makes the most sense to me that way

FD if you stall for forever and then claim vanilla like we all know is coming i am voting for you

JC claimed Self Confirming.

That's a bold thing to say on day 1 while under pressure and then NEVER elaborate.

Forceful_Dragon posted...

JC claimed Self Confirming.

That's a bold thing to say on day 1 while under pressure and then NEVER elaborate.

Correct. And it makes sense with my role.

Just because you dont have a concept of what it might be doesnt mean I should show my hand to scum.

On the phone.

I dont think scum rolescanned mzero before Lea claimed her scan power. Else scum would have janitord him.

Chaeix posted...

town self-confirming power role

get off

not dealing with any of this bull shit

This was from 7 days ago while you were under a LOT of heat from Lopen. You didn't have to elaborate day 2 because isquen imploded. You didn't have to elaborate day 3 because we had a guilty scan. The time for stalling is past. Today is claim day and that includes you. It includes me too, but I'm insisting you go first.

yeah no

Lea you should scan FD lol

red13n posted...

I'm definitely in the "FD should claim" camp.

I would love to, just as soon as JC delivers. I would absolutely LOVE for JC to reliably self confirm himself so we're 1 step closer to a solved end game.

Chaeix posted...

yeah no

The main guy pressuring you died night 1 despite being a pretty clear vanilla. Awfully convenient.

vote me then

##Vote: JC

you called yourself self confirming and bought yourself a full week. Let's see it.

good luck getting a single other person to vote me

if people actually think Im scum then they can go for it but its pretty clear Im not at this point. scum doesnt start trains on their role cop and vanillaizer d1. Im just playing a good game.

Incidentally I'm going to bed soon so if JC doesn't do his part you might not get my claim for 12+ hours.

Tuesday is my in-office work day so participation can't be guaranteed during work hours like it can other days of the week.

Forceful_Dragon posted...

Incidentally I'm going to bed soon so if JC doesn't do his part you might not get my claim for 12+ hours.

Tuesday is my in-office work day so participation can't be guaranteed during work hours like it can other days of the week.

given how my role is unconnected to others, the only valid justification you have not to claim right now beyond jc hasnt claimed yet is *checks notes*

damn, there just keeps being nothing in my notes

Chaeix posted...

good luck getting a single other person to vote me

if people actually think Im scum then they can go for it but its pretty clear Im not at this point. scum doesnt start trains on their role cop and vanillaizer d1. Im just playing a good game.

You would look a lot better if Corrik had flipped town. The ctes train can now be viewed in hindsight as a way to split votes between two scum as a hail mary.

But that's all besides the point. I WANT you to be town, so CONFIRM that you are like you said you could.

PunishedBen posted...

I guess Wallz should reexplain why he picked Ulti over say, Death, who had claimed vanilla day 1?

Because yeah I can see Ulti being a good target for scum to interrogate and figure out if he's hiding power or not, what with the ambiguous day 1 claim.

I picked Ulti because one, I could track, not just motion detect, so if Ulti had intended to used his fake claim as cover for moving Id know who he visited. Two, there was no way in hell I wanted to repeat SSB mafia and spend the entire game with Ultis role being a major topic. Ultis refusal to acknowledge what shouldve been obvious about his claim (movement being involuntary) made me suspicious he was lying regardless of alignment, which was correct.

In hindsight I see the value of choosing a claimed vanilla and Ulti perhaps wasnt the optimal choice but I stand by it being a good one.

Forceful_Dragon posted...

You would look a lot better if Corrik had flipped town. The ctes train can now be viewed in hindsight as a way to split votes between two scum as a hail mary.

But that's all besides the point. I WANT you to be town, so CONFIRM that you are like you said you could.

youre talking to a wall buddy

you claiming increases the odds but doesnt guarantee it

@Enchantress have at this fool

##Vote: FD

stop stalling and just reveal youre the umpteenth vanilla claim already

if JCs claim doesnt check out well vote him afterwards

Chaeix posted...

given how my role is unconnected to others, the only valid justification you have not to claim right now beyond jc hasnt claimed yet is *checks notes*

damn, there just keeps being nothing in my notes

And yet there's even LESS of a reason for you to hold out. My defiance is principled by the fact that you've had more than enough time since your under pressure partial claim.

JC I think we are ahead enough to handle whatever downsides you say your claim may bring. Though I cannot imagine any.