Board 8 > Simpsons Mafia Topic 5: Don't blame me, I voted for scum!

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Enchantress posted...

Mmm I hope Wallz wasn't responsible for Kirby

To elaborate -

What is the appeal of a role which is a one use neighbourize/track? That's a fairly useless power. And to use it night one? Lowest odds of a movement scan succeeding there. I was really expecting it to be a nightly role.Or at least be an attempt to bait a night kill as, you know, a renamed extra socialable tracker.

Kidnapping can appear as a ??? . I am concerned now that Wallz kidnapped Kirby N2, and decided to either execute him based on their conversation, or he is exiled until Wallz leaves the battlefield. It would be a role that gives you an option to release or harm. The plan would be to fake claim a useless kidnapper role, while town assumes Kirby got janitored or whatever. It would explain why Wallz started seeding his claim early, claimed early, etc. It would also mean he went in on bussing old inactive Corrik d1, not a bad approach for a Wallz saves the day plan.

This theory is said in the blue truth. I may not live until tomorrow, but I would enjoy fighting this out.

i won't really be around for the rest of today

feel free to end on corrik if you all feel we don't need any more time

otherwise i'll be back super late tonight or tomorrow

He hasn't left my poe so I'm down with scum wallz theories.

But night 1 showed us that scum got to NK on the same night that wallz neighbor'd Ulti, but then last night the neighbor/kidnap would have replaced the NK? That's an inconsistency at least. Especially if it's the version where Kirby could potentially come back?

I'd sooner think it was just a scum neighbor in hours that the conversation with Ulti would permanently "clear" himself.

kill wallz then?

I'm cool with that.

Kirby day 1 continued. Topic #3

Post about red and not being completely convinced, but acknowledging that he's still uncountered vigi at this point.

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Switched vote from Lea to ctes, saying it was preferred over Ulti and red at that point.

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Not a fan of MZero being lynched d1

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Asking red why he claimed.

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Asking Ulti to clarify his claim.

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Post about how red could still be a scum in a world where there is no town vigi.

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Acknowledges the chances of no town extra kill are low and red is likely town.

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Switched vote to Lea. Then to Ulti.

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Was inclined to believe corrik was town after so many corrik votes developed so fast.

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Refused to vote me (after wallz suggested special) and said it was either Lea or ctes.

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Votes ctes (beginning of ctes train).

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Believed the other corrik votes were scum saving ctes.

-end of day 1-

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Nothing too crazy from the tail end of day 1. I think the thing that stuck out the most to me was his assumption of Corrik's innocence based on the way the votes fell. That was my own assumption coming into day 2 as well, but generally I find it hard to believe that day 1 would end in a scum vs scum situation. I'd be curious to know how Kirby feels about the guilty scan on Corrik with all that being said.

Obellisk posted...

kill wallz then?

I'm cool with that.

Not today at least.

Forceful_Dragon posted...

Exactly. On the off chance he's town this is his opportunity to provide info and provide his own thoughts and insights before his demise. But regardless of being lynched today is his final day and he is NOT making it count so far.

I suppose I'll re read Kirby a bit as well and see what I can turn up.

I am town but I haven't read most of the game. I tried at times but am simply too busy. I haven't read the tail end of day 1 yet and large parts of day 2. I barely had enough time yesterday to read enough to see who I had to self preserve vote against.

The only reads I can give you are

Ben is town.
Fd is town.
Jc is town.
If wallz is town and not lying then ulti has to 98% be town also. (Unless a nonmoving scum night 1 on a scum team minus a player already which is unlikely).

Jcs reaction day 1 regarding claims and such were pure town.

Ben was absolutely correct about fd and lopens town reactions to the naming and vanilla stuff. He wouldn't have pointed that out if scum.

If mzero is going to stick to this claim then whatever. Nothing I can do. I'm not scum. This is a mislynch but I don't have the time to play anyways. Just eat it. Idk what the numbers are to figure out if this is somehow worth it to scum to 1 for 1. I doubt it especially without a counter claim here. But, I'm not scum and he says I am so what can I do.

Sorry I let yinz down this game. Probably shouldn't have signed up I guess.

Scum at least loses their extra kill with me eating a mislynch first with it. *shrug*

did corrik just claim? orrr.....?

I dont know what that post is saying tbh

Oh the poison duh

Well I revised my overview of the day1 endlynch with Corrik now as another scum

JC getting people interested in Corrik makes him look even better then he already looked. And once again Chang joined him there too. Reds vote on Corrik is pretty good for him too.
Lea to her credit also joined JC on Corrik and put him up over Ulti. I dont immediately remember how Lea felt about Ulti day1 tho.

But of the now currently posting people, Wallz did not want to vote Corrik. So him ultimately voting Ctes doesnt say as much as I at first thought. Maybe if Corrik turns out to be a less important scumrole than Vanillizer, but even then the fact that it came down to scum VS scum diminishes his town points a little bit. Wallz voting Corrik day2 despite the clearly inevitable Isquen lynch doesnt do much for me either.

Sbell not moving from Ulti is also not a great look. That has not changed.

Ben did make clear that wanted to vote to keep Ulti alive near the end of the day. And he said so before Ctes became Corriks alternate instead. So thats at least keeping me from seeing his nonvote as a suspicious act.

htaeD posted...

Sbell not moving from Ulti is also not a great look. That has not changed.

I'm not still on ulti.

don't give me none of this not good look garbage.

Obellisk posted...

I'm not still on ulti.

don't give me none of this not good look garbage.

Corrik being scum with ctes contextualizes how the end of day 1 gets viewed. It's a fair thing to point out.

Obellisk posted...

I'm not still on ulti.

don't give me none of this not good look garbage.

I was talking about day1.

oh, taking bout day 1.

that's fine. carry on. I was certainly camping an ulti.

Btw are we ending today or tomorrow?

Today I hope

if i'm the only one bothering to go back and gather info and give thoughts then just end now :shrug:

Was kinda hoping we'd have more of a back and forth in spite of the scan.

Hey I went back as well.
Corriks day1 is just very uninformative until the end.

corrik won't be the final scum so we can't just accept the guilty scan at face value and say "mission accomplished"

I dont think anyone is doing that
I am assuming some people are just having a lazy sunday (I know I needed one)
I wont vote Corrik yet in case people do want 48 hours.

I'll vote Corrik yet in case people don't want 48
hours

##vote: Corrik

yeah, end it. I'm not doing any work. Let's see what next day brings.

corrik has 5 and i believe it's 7 to lynch, despite votals saying 6.

happy to put him at -1 for someone to come in and FINISH HIM

##vote: corrik

shall we, sbell?

Trust in Lea drops significantly with a corrik scum flip.

It would probably be an unpopular opinionbut i moght prefer the whole 48 with the super bowl today.

Does not change my opinion that i think i trust ulti/wallz both.

Lea did vote Corrik too tho. Lets not forget that.

I mean besides today.

I got distracted by sports ball.

if anyone truly wants to keep the day open full 48 it's not like we need to end early.

I'm pretty impartial.

I think town loses more than it gains from stretching out days with a guilty scan

Lea can you reiterate your information that's been claimed.

Red is probably town, the end

I would hope you think hes probably town since you claimed an inno scan

Enchantress posted...

Red is probably town, the end

so you haven't provided the game with anything real.

Are we still ending day early?

I wanna hear you say yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah yeah

YEAH

##vote: corrik

fine.

Votals predict the Superbowl
(7)Corrik- Mzero, ulti, Ben, Wall, Enchantres, JC, Red
(0) Ben- (ulti)

Breaking News!
The Angry mob of the Springfieldiens
Decided that it has to be someone intelligent behind all of this! It wasn't the principal so obviously it is the little girl right?! Lisa has always been too smart for Springfield. She was never the most convincing one and couldn't talk her way out of this one.

Corrik has been Lynched he was:

You're Lisa Simpson Studious (Role cop)
You're Lisa Simpson the intelligent one in the family. You're completely against this idea but you just want to be a part of your family and accepted. You usually don't have alot in common with your family but you want to be helpful. Each night you study the reports and you study the behaviors of the town. As a role cop each night you will study someone and see what they are up to by learning their role

You win when your family takes control of the town and your overthrowing is inevitable

The One Bowling at Barney's Bowlerama

1.Death
2. FD
3. Mzero( IGCD)
4. JC
5. Lea
6. Red
7. Sbell
8.Ulti
9. Wallz
10. Ben
11. Chang

I apologize for the late start. For the lat start Taekwondo ran late anyways

It seems as if they figured why not Cheif Wiggum actually did his job he is a threat now. They shot their best shot and it hit its mark.

Mzero has died he was
You're Cheif Clancy Wiggum town Lazy cop (Odd day day cop)

You're the fat lazy cheif of the Springfield Police department. You hate working and actually really do not even like your job but you do love the perks of Free Lard Lad Donuts and coffee, Free Krusty Burgers, and the joy of sitting on your butt most of the time unless you actually HAVE to do your job. You are still the chief of police after all so as a lazy cop you will only half ass this ever odd day you may scan to see if that said person is a suspect or not. So any time during the day pm this moderator to get the police report on the suspect if they are guilty or innocent!

You win when all threats to the town are eliminated.

The liv-ing
1. Death
2. FD
3. JC
4. Lea
5. Red
6. Sbell
7.Ulti
8. Wallz
9. Ben
10.Chang

I had hoped that was what Mzero's lazy modifier meant. Claiming it day three like it was two night scans, simply too good.

I also think Kirby was role copped before he was vanished, so I'm a little side eyes at Ben for going hard on "Kirby was definitely vanilla lol scum". Based on Mzero dying, I'm afraid he was protection.

And finally...guess who's Mzero's even day counterpart in this wacky buddy cop flick?

https://youtu.be/6wDQngVAp2A?si=zA1LeYh0ET6Uqh6z

https://youtu.be/8UYNEu6v6AE?si=PHZ4rBxSYXSFhZFz

https://youtu.be/QDjProAqjZ4?si=kCpebTCef9OM4EuC

I'm Mr. Burns Town Mr. Smithers who is that (even day Flavor cop)

Who the devil are you?

Only person left who I don't have a good reason to think is Town would be Death. So that's my starting point today.

And again, I never cleared death based on him remembering he had a renamed role...I only said Lopen and FD because of how they town read death immediately following his answer. Even Corrik understood this. Nothing clears death, as we now clearly know anything and everyone could have renamed roles, even scum members

interesting so this game is like ultra mega loaded up on scanners and that ilk

Scum team is presumably

godfather
janitor / some kind of extra kill with it?
role cop
vanillizer

right? With two day cops theres surely a godfather

Enchantress posted...

I had hoped that was what Mzero's lazy modifier meant. Claiming it day three like it was two night scans, simply too good.

I also think Kirby was role copped before he was vanished, so I'm a little side eyes at Ben for going hard on "Kirby was definitely vanilla lol scum". Based on Mzero dying, I'm afraid he was protection.

And finally...guess who's Mzero's even day counterpart in this wacky buddy cop flick?

https://youtu.be/6wDQngVAp2A?si=zA1LeYh0ET6Uqh6z

https://youtu.be/8UYNEu6v6AE?si=PHZ4rBxSYXSFhZFz

https://youtu.be/QDjProAqjZ4?si=kCpebTCef9OM4EuC

I'm Mr. Burns Town Mr. Smithers who is that (even day Flavor cop)

Who the devil are you?

Nice. Also how did you interpret those two Kirby posts and come to the conclusion he isn't vanilla? Conspiracies are nice but it's pretty cut and dry >_>

I can see now why you really had no other option but to pick Red for the flavor scan given how stubborn he was about not revealing flavor. Lol

PunishedBen posted...

Nice. Also how did you interpret those two Kirby posts and come to the conclusion he isn't vanilla? Conspiracies are nice but it's pretty cut and dry >_>

"So let me ask you this... if FD isn't also a Town Vanilla, how did he deduce that Death was missing something in his claim?"

This sentence isn't Kirby claiming vanilla.