Board 8 > Valentine's Day Mafia Topic 9: And I Will Always Love You

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Lopen
03/04/24 2:07:00 PM
#351:


That being said

I don't actually think I tunnel Dumey if you flip town.

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Lopen
03/04/24 2:07:31 PM
#352:


But you being so sure it would be at rest if you flip town doesn't make sense. If I'm scum I absolutely just tunnel Dumey

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Chaeix
03/04/24 2:08:21 PM
#353:


Lopen posted...
That being said

I don't actually think I tunnel Dumey if you flip town.
where do your suspicions go if kirby flips town and you think dumey is town?

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Lopen
03/04/24 2:10:59 PM
#354:


Sultan Ulti Chris Mzero permutations

I dunno I'd have to think about it

Pretty sure Kirby is just scum and we're solving for his partner at this point though

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Lopen
03/04/24 2:11:38 PM
#355:


Ulti and Sultan definitely flipped before Dumey I think

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Forceful_Dragon
03/04/24 2:15:07 PM
#356:


For me it's just going to be MZero and Ulti still and I have no confidence in today not being a mislynch anymore.

I was upset earlier when MZero and Ulti were paired, but my next options were Sultan or Isquen. But then even when MZero and Ulti broke up all four of them still just ended up paired with each other. Not only that but now if there are 2 scum in that group of 4 and they aren't paired today, they can just pair up tomorrow! I'm not happy that all of them avoided even being the bottom 5. No risky deals or dates needed to be struck to save any of them from an actually dangerous moment.

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Corrik7
03/04/24 2:15:42 PM
#357:


Kirby321 posted...
Because I need to die in order for Lopen to stop bringing up the same trite EoD D1 theory shit. Otherwise, Lopen will continue to be a broken record if Dumey dies instead of me
So why not kill lopen

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Kirby321
03/04/24 2:17:19 PM
#358:


Corrik7 posted...
So why not kill lopen

Ask JC. He's the one who saved Lopen over me or Dumey :P

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Lopen
03/04/24 2:17:43 PM
#359:


Nah.

I'm really confident this is not a mislynch unless Corrik pairs with Kirby

At some point martyrdom doesn't make sense. Kirby has been oozing it this entire game beyond the point where it makes any sense

Pretty sure he hard townread Lea-- why not play chicken against her and red like he's doing with Corrik and Dumey. Heck he said red was playing terribly even.

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Chaeix
03/04/24 2:18:23 PM
#360:


Lopen posted...
At some point martyrdom doesn't make sense. Kirby has been oozing it this entire game beyond the point where it makes any sense
lopen...

like i think you're town but pot kettle black dude

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Kirby321
03/04/24 2:18:54 PM
#361:


Mr. Triple Kill himself thinks sacrifice is scummy lol

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Lopen
03/04/24 2:19:05 PM
#362:


Chaeix posted...
lopen...

like i think you're town but pot kettle black dude

Absolutely not

Every time Ive suggested martyrdom it was to advance the game state

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Kirby321
03/04/24 2:19:33 PM
#363:


Oh wait I shouldn't have brought that up again

If any of you chucklefucks even seriously think of doing a triple kill, I will haunt you in DTC

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Lopen
03/04/24 2:20:07 PM
#364:


I've never said "just kill me"

I have said "I cannot die so I'm going to sit in the death pool" and "pair me with two people I suspect so I can sacrifice to win the game"

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Lopen
03/04/24 2:20:55 PM
#365:


The only one I'd take a bullet for is Isquen atm if only because I feel he is less likely to be mislynched if I'm flipped town than I am if he's flipped town

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Lopen
03/04/24 2:21:37 PM
#366:


If say Dumey and Kirby pair and kill Corrik though? I'll absolutely use myself as a bomb to destroy them tomorrow if town allows me

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Forceful_Dragon
03/04/24 2:22:46 PM
#367:


Lopen posted...
If say Dumey and Kirby pair and kill Corrik though? I'll absolutely use myself as a bomb to destroy them tomorrow if town allows me

If corrik flips backup cop as we expect? I think that would be the one exception to my no triple kill stance.

If corrik flipped scum I'd throw them a damn parade, XD

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EDumey
03/04/24 2:26:16 PM
#368:


Kirby you ready to do something legendary?

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Chaeix
03/04/24 2:27:03 PM
#369:


Lopen posted...
If say Dumey and Kirby pair and kill Corrik though? I'll absolutely use myself as a bomb to destroy them tomorrow if town allows me
I would be pretty chuffed if Corrik was left out to dry here since we definitely want both claimed scanners alive going into the night. We can get a lot more information that way (eg based off the NK being one of probably Chris or Corrik).

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Forceful_Dragon
03/04/24 2:27:05 PM
#370:


-_-

It should go without saying that you should absolutely NOT do that.

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Kirby321
03/04/24 2:27:35 PM
#371:


No, I'm not going to kill Corrik.

Would be funny if he was actually scum, but I'm not gonna throw the game for town. I want y'all to win, but the only way that's going to happen is if you guys stop listening to Lopen :P

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EDumey
03/04/24 2:27:40 PM
#372:


oh so NOW i need the /jk, huh!?

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Lopen
03/04/24 2:28:29 PM
#373:


I'll tell you what

If Kirby flips town I'll absolutely take a vow of silence for the rest of the game and only issue date commands

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EDumey
03/04/24 2:28:41 PM
#374:


The only way Corrik dies today is if he refuses to date anyone else.

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Corrik7
03/04/24 2:28:45 PM
#375:


##date: Kirby

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Kirby321
03/04/24 2:29:23 PM
#376:


Lopen posted...
I'll tell you what

If Kirby flips town I'll absolutely take a vow of silence for the rest of the game and only issue date commands

You don't need to be that extreme.

Just stop being so argumentative and let other people talk. Just listen to them instead of trying to talk over damn near everyone and trying to be the loudest voice.

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EDumey
03/04/24 2:29:33 PM
#377:


oh. hi corrik.

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Chaeix
03/04/24 2:29:34 PM
#378:


*insert elmo on fire meme*

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Corrik7
03/04/24 2:29:46 PM
#379:


EDumey posted...
oh. hi corrik.
Hi

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Kirby321
03/04/24 2:30:13 PM
#380:


Chaeix posted...
*insert elmo on fire meme*

... Fuck I can't be laughing this hard at work

... But uh, I'm not sure how to react to this. Corrik, why choose me over Dumey?

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Corrik7
03/04/24 2:30:43 PM
#381:


Didn't I say Kirby had to be town yesterday.

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EDumey
03/04/24 2:31:02 PM
#382:


I wouldn't be THAT annoying to talk to at night!

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Corrik7
03/04/24 2:31:26 PM
#383:


Scum is probably already paired tbqh

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Corrik7
03/04/24 2:32:28 PM
#384:


Who was left unpaired before the breakups day 1.

Obviously peaf died and Kirby chose not to save him.

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Lopen
03/04/24 2:32:31 PM
#385:


If scum are already paired I'm going Ulti x Sultan

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Lopen
03/04/24 2:32:51 PM
#386:


Corrik7 posted...
Who was left unpaired before the breakups day 1.

Obviously peaf died and Kirby chose not to save him.

Kirby has no choice FD locked him in

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Corrik7
03/04/24 2:32:53 PM
#387:


What makes isquen town.

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Lopen
03/04/24 2:33:34 PM
#388:


I still think it's Kirby and everyone is punting though

If Kirby has been on the block 3 times legendary game from him

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Chaeix
03/04/24 2:33:56 PM
#389:


Corrik7 posted...
What makes isquen town.
most of us are leaning into his response to lopen's gambler claim but it's about all we have

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Corrik7
03/04/24 2:34:12 PM
#390:


Lopen posted...
I still think it's Kirby and everyone is punting though

If Kirby has been on the block 3 times legendary game from him
Why would scum always be on the block

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Lopen
03/04/24 2:34:49 PM
#391:


Corrik7 posted...
What makes isquen town.

He responded to my bluff very townish to me and I read him town

I don't think Isquen is eloquent enough a speaker to react to a bluff naturally in a way that feels townish to me

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Corrik7
03/04/24 2:34:58 PM
#392:


I won't be alive tomorrow. Do you want me to save edumey instead? I'll let town decide.

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TheSultanOfSlam
03/04/24 2:35:06 PM
#393:


Lopen is looking like almost a anybody But me mode.

Why are you panicking a bit lopen?

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Corrik7
03/04/24 2:35:21 PM
#394:


Lopen posted...
He responded to my bluff very townish to me and I read him town

I don't think Isquen is eloquent enough a speaker to react to a bluff naturally in a way that feels townish to me
I don't care about your reads personally. Isquens comment to me reeked of sinister in night chat.

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Lopen
03/04/24 2:36:08 PM
#395:


Corrik7 posted...
Why would scum always be on the block

Why would Peaf throw himself into the fire when everyone at eod d1 is town.

Something scum is doing doesn't make sense this game. You can't handwave Peaf as "he's just crazy" and then say Kirby has to be here for a reason other than "Lopen is trying to force town to lynch him"

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Corrik7
03/04/24 2:36:25 PM
#396:


Lopen posted...
Why would Peaf throw himself into the fire when everyone at eod d1 is town.

Something scum is doing doesn't make sense this game. You can't handwave Peaf as "he's just crazy" and then say Kirby has to be here for a reason other than "Lopen is trying to force town to lynch him"
He did it because I said scum wouldn't be willing to do it.

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Chaeix
03/04/24 2:37:45 PM
#397:


Corrik7 posted...
I won't be alive tomorrow. Do you want me to save edumey instead? I'll let town decide.
I think both are town but I think Dumey is more likely to be town. Sorry Kirby :(

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Lopen
03/04/24 2:37:55 PM
#398:


I will say

Ulti not having broken up for Sultan to me is making me feel better its Dumey x Kirby

Like 60-35 I'm thinking

I'm OK with this lynch. Kirby would obviously not want to pair with you if he felt Dumey had a better chance to survive if he's paired

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Kirby321
03/04/24 2:38:24 PM
#399:


Chaeix posted...
I think both are town but I think Dumey is more likely to be town. Sorry Kirby :(

I'll accept your apology if you allow Lopen to die

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EDumey
03/04/24 2:38:34 PM
#400:


In this position it's hard for me to justify trying to kill another Vanilla over me, unless we think we get more info out of someone else. I feel like killing me only really shows that it was never a Peaf/Dumey scum pair, which just leads Lopen to continue insisting that Peaf must have left to save Kirby afterall.

Lopen once I flip, take my insistence that I totally think Peaf could have just acted on his own to FAFO.

Also I still think Sultan should be considered on the table. I think a lot of people agree with me, but there's definitely enough room in the setup for him to have some non-moving role and not submit the night kill. Chris' scan shouldn't be a complete green check on him. I've never seen Sultan play the way he did this game. Even when he's gotten pressure in other games, I've always seen Sultan just kind of shrug it off. Maybe other outside things got him stressed this game, but all I can do is read what I see.

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