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Kirby321
03/04/24 11:17:29 AM
#151:


Lopen, I was specifically referring to Isquen saying "people are sucking the air out of the room" and not naming you at all.

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Lopen
03/04/24 11:21:36 AM
#152:


Chaeix posted...
I can't disagree those are interesting statements. I went back to get the post that has been nagging me since end of day 1 and found this post quoted above - t3p352. I'm struggling to find the context for what Peaf meant by this?

this is the post that was nagging me. it's been tucked away corner of my brain since the end of d1, even though it was before peaf claimed. t3p314. i didn't bring it up yesterday because i didn't want to add more conjecture to the eod d1 dumpster fire of a discussion last day. it's been sitting in the back of my brain saying 'peaf basically said out loud that something went wrong - but what?'. whether it has an implication for kirby i'm not sure but it's the only thing keeping the door open for EoD d1ers possibly being scumbuddies with peaf in my brain.


Chaeix posted...
kirby i can't say that i didn't have this same thought.

kind of reads like peaf took your acceptance for granted and expected it. why leave if he's not certain you'll accept?

Chaeix posted...
well at the very least you've convinced me that if there is scum at EoD d1 it's probably kirby and not dumey?

i don't think it's too much of a stretch to say that dumey could have paired up with peaf again without too much suspicion until a possible peaf flip later in the game. in this setup i feel like the scum incentive to save a buddy (particularly role cop) is

i'll note that the post that's been nagging me was made after FD broke up to steal Kirby away


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TheSultanOfSlam
03/04/24 11:22:08 AM
#153:


MZero posted...
I don't think anyone should be blamed for forgetting Corrik is in this game tbh

I mean you're not nessisarily wrong
I suppose.
Their is a small world where scum Corrik big brained us on a guess of how Cop worked and Claimed back up to coast but im.not playing that what if atm

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SirChris
03/04/24 11:24:09 AM
#154:


I dont get why if kirby is scum they just dont pair up even if it looks weird

better than a dead scum, no?

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Lopen
03/04/24 11:24:12 AM
#155:


That's the good stuff

To me it feels like the plan as designed was

Date Lea and immediately update
Date peaf who had an open date and asked
Leave Lea JC and Dumey in the pool

Then FD showed up mid plan and it would have looked really bad for Kirby to date Peaf over FD

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Lopen
03/04/24 11:25:37 AM
#156:


SirChris posted...
I dont get why if kirby is scum they just dont pair up even if it looks weird

better than a dead scum, no?

I agree it's a misplay but scum doesn't always play right and Kirby is exactly the type of player to fly off the seat of his pants like that.

Kirby had been heavily pining for FD all day so it would have been glaring at least

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SirChris
03/04/24 11:26:19 AM
#157:


obviously scum did end up misplaying in the end, so I guess I cant expect scum's plan to be perfect lol

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Lopen
03/04/24 11:26:47 AM
#158:


I think if FD is not in the pool at that exact moment Kirby executes the plan successfully

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Kirby321
03/04/24 11:27:38 AM
#159:


Okay Lopen so do you think me saying "WAIT SHOOT I DIDN'T SEE FD POST NOOOO I WANT TO DATE HIM" after attempting to date Lea was just crocodile tears, then?

At that point in the game, I couldn't have ditched Lea into the pool unless she consented to breaking up. And she only did so because she saw that I wanted to be with FD.

(Which ultimately didn't matter. I didn't have a full grasp of how the mechanics worked and didn't realize my date request from way in the past was still open)

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Isquen
03/04/24 11:27:48 AM
#160:


TheSultanOfSlam posted...
I mean you're not nessisarily wrong
I suppose.
Their is a small world where scum Corrik big brained us on a guess of how Cop worked and Claimed back up to coast but im.not playing that what if atm

I 100% am playing that "what if." There's a reason I've got him low on the "town" PoE- it's very recent where scum Corrik coasted on inactivity until called out. My conspiracy brain does believe a godfather (not godfather prosty) and that would be right up Corrik's alley if he was indeed scanned D1 Innocent with me.

At least, this is my presumption that we ate Red's scan - we were amongst the least talkative day 1, after all, and the night wasn't much better.

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Lopen
03/04/24 11:27:49 AM
#161:


It's less about what Kirby did and more about what Peaf did in any case

Going afk with only one date request out implies you expect it to be accepted no?

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Lopen
03/04/24 11:28:43 AM
#162:


Either Peaf just suicided for basically no reason or Kirby bussed Peaf

Arguably the first one is the bigger misplay

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Kirby321
03/04/24 11:28:59 AM
#163:


Lopen posted...
Going afk with only one date request out implies you expect it to be accepted no?

YES

SO WHY DIDN'T I JUST TAKE IT IF I WERE SCUM

This is insufferable good grief

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Lopen
03/04/24 11:29:42 AM
#164:


Kirby321 posted...
YES

SO WHY DIDN'T I JUST TAKE IT IF I WERE SCUM

This is insufferable good grief

Because it makes you and Peaf look very paired the next day when your waifu FD is left to die

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Kirby321
03/04/24 11:30:10 AM
#165:


Ah yes let my teammate die in a game where scum is clearly outnumbered

I'm such a fantastic busser y'all fools don't stand a goddamn chance against my elite master scum tactics

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Lopen
03/04/24 11:30:51 AM
#166:


It's a bus or a suicide

Which is actually the worse play by scum

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Kirby321
03/04/24 11:31:17 AM
#167:


Lopen posted...
Because it makes you and Peaf look very paired the next day when your waifu FD is left to die

Makes no sense since FD had no reason to have broken up with you if I had just immediately taken Peaf's date without hesitation.

FD only tried to date me because I was still single from refusing both JC and Peaf.

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Forceful_Dragon
03/04/24 11:32:04 AM
#168:


Not to be a broken record, but after I entered the fray it was literally not possible for Kirby to date anyone but me. His date request to me had been sent much earlier.

He did *try* to date Lea and then break up with Lea and then date me, but those were all effectively useless actions because I'd already secured his date.

That's why I have his day 1 actions marked as this:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/a/a2ec522a.png

Those last 3 actions didn't do anything. But to kirby's credit they showed a willingness to pick both Lea and myself over Peaf. If they Peaf and Kirby were scummates then Peaf went fully off script to the point that Kirby felt forced to ignore Peaf's date request, consequences be damned.

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Lopen
03/04/24 11:32:19 AM
#169:


Peaf extended a date to you and afked

And had a bunch of people calling him sus

What are the odds someone must have Peaf after you're paired with a non Peaf

Feels like he was confident he'd get you

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Kirby321
03/04/24 11:34:50 AM
#170:


Apparently, it was Ulti who theorized this was scum Lopen from Kingmaker.

UltimaterializerX posted...
My PoE going into today was Lopen + Sultan. If youre saying Sultan is town, Ill drop him and assume Lopen + ?.

Lopen specifically is giving me vibes from Chriss kingmaker game and FF7, where he was able to manipulate town through strange mechanics to win. Openly calling for triple+ kills is so unbelievably anti-town.

Maybe we should let Ulti cook today. Is town Lopen usually stubborn enough to latch onto one thing for multiple days in a row?

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Lopen
03/04/24 11:35:52 AM
#171:


Forceful_Dragon posted...
Those last 3 actions didn't do anything. But to kirby's credit they showed a willingness to pick both Lea and myself over Peaf. If they Peaf and Kirby were scummates then Peaf went fully off script to the point that Kirby felt forced to ignore Peaf's date request, consequences be damned.

This almost makes it seem possible that the Lea accept and breakup could have been a feint after knowing he was paired with you. I'll have to go look at timestamps

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Lopen
03/04/24 11:36:51 AM
#172:


Kirby321 posted...
Is town Lopen usually stubborn enough to latch onto one thing for multiple days in a row?

https://youtu.be/lhckuhUxcgA?si=cTqQ4JKa8xCitnPh

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Lopen
03/04/24 11:38:58 AM
#173:


2 and a half minutes

Certainly possible

Removes all cred Kirby gets for feinting dating Lea if so

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SirChris
03/04/24 11:38:59 AM
#174:


KIrby this is the person who was talking about godfather prosty

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TheSultanOfSlam
03/04/24 11:39:36 AM
#175:


Kirby321 posted...
Apparently, it was Ulti who theorized this was scum Lopen from Kingmaker.

UltimaterializerX posted...

Maybe we should let Ulti cook today. Is town Lopen usually stubborn enough to latch onto one thing for multiple days in a row?

I mean I had a similar thought to this. As well.


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Forceful_Dragon
03/04/24 11:39:39 AM
#176:


Lopen posted...
This almost makes it seem possible that the Lea accept and breakup could have been a feint after knowing he was paired with you. I'll have to go look at timestamps

6:04:57 PST. I steal Kirby's Date.

6:07:50 PST. Kirby's message to date Lea is posted which also includes a ##Breakup offer.

It was medium in length and in the moment I assumed he had been working on it prior to even seeing my date, but 3 minutes is probably enough time to throw that together as sort of an "oh crap, i'm stuck with FD so I can't date Peaf. But I can pretend that I wasn't going to date peaf anyways if I say this...". Inconclusive, but technically possible.

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SirChris
03/04/24 11:39:40 AM
#177:


Anyway

##date: FD

we can discuss waterfalls.

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Lopen
03/04/24 11:39:58 AM
#178:


Note Kirby was openly calling me scum earlier now he's trying to paint it as Ultis idea

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Lopen
03/04/24 11:40:20 AM
#179:


SirChris posted...
Anyway

##date: FD

we can discuss waterfalls.

Why. FD is obv town

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Lopen
03/04/24 11:41:01 AM
#180:


You continue to play like scum gf Prostitute

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SirChris
03/04/24 11:41:18 AM
#181:


I notice a lot of kirby's ideas for murder this game are not scum related. Red was making it difficult to solve, so and so isnt posting enough etc.

idk, clearly the scum are not doing things as I would expect them to do but not really sure where kirby's solving hat is at most of the time. I wont tell young love where to go though.

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Forceful_Dragon
03/04/24 11:41:36 AM
#182:


Anyways i'm gonna be in and out until after we hit the 6 hour mark, do we have recent votals?

as far as I can tell Ulti and MZero are still paired despite mzero's belief that it wouldn't or couldn't last? Disappointing if so.

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SirChris
03/04/24 11:41:38 AM
#183:


Lopen posted...
You continue to play like scum gf Prostitute

Sure, Lopen. I'm the scum gf Prostitute.

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Lopen
03/04/24 11:42:26 AM
#184:


SirChris posted...
Sure, Lopen. I'm the scum gf Prostitute.

You're not but you're playing like one

Have you ever drawn this role in your life

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SirChris
03/04/24 11:42:48 AM
#185:


I did say i was worried about fd due to peaf's iso. I'm following my heart.

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MZero
03/04/24 11:44:19 AM
#186:


##Breakup
##Date: Kirby

I need to go to sleep and Ulti said he would ditch me to save Sultan so

I do feel bad taking Kirby out of the EoD shenanigans but I really think he's town

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Lopen
03/04/24 11:44:27 AM
#187:


FD peaf Kirby is...

Well, actually. Sure why not let's clear it.

Lynch Kirby and this still helps solve. If not Kirby just sends in all the actions

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Lopen
03/04/24 11:44:40 AM
#188:


MZero posted...
##Breakup
##Date: Kirby

I need to go to sleep and Ulti said he would ditch me to save Sultan so

I do feel bad taking Kirby out of the EoD shenanigans but I really think he's town

I hate you

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TheSultanOfSlam
03/04/24 11:45:02 AM
#189:


This isn't the first time Chris claimed GF... I know he is sarcastic but still lol

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SirChris
03/04/24 11:45:33 AM
#190:


Godfather Prosty, very specifically is my claim.

Fear me.

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Lopen
03/04/24 11:45:36 AM
#191:


Why is mzero so bad at mafia sometimes

All of town can tell him not to and he still dayvigs Sbell

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SirChris
03/04/24 11:46:03 AM
#192:


Lopen posted...
Why is mzero so bad at mafia sometimes

All of town can tell him not to and he still dayvigs Sbell

wasnt sbell scum when sbell was dayvigged

or is this more recent

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MZero
03/04/24 11:46:43 AM
#193:


SirChris posted...
wasnt sbell scum when sbell was dayvigged

or is this more recent

I did it a second time and he was Not Scum lol

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Lopen
03/04/24 11:46:47 AM
#194:


SirChris posted...
wasnt sbell scum when sbell was dayvigged

or is this more recent

Mzero did it again when many people townread sbell and sbell was town to the point where people assumed scum dayvig and lynched him

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TheSultanOfSlam
03/04/24 11:46:56 AM
#195:


Oof Mzero Saving Kirby makes me definitely have to date. Lopen.. Kirby is a much better option then Ulti but my Hands are basically tied unless I get a different Date offer

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MZero
03/04/24 11:47:17 AM
#196:


Lopen posted...
I hate you

Isn't Ulti scum too? I just set him free

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Lopen
03/04/24 11:47:45 AM
#197:


MZero posted...
Isn't Ulti scum too? I just set him free

Feel way better about Kirby

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TheSultanOfSlam
03/04/24 11:48:25 AM
#198:


Or corrik could accept my Date I guess

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MZero
03/04/24 11:48:52 AM
#199:


Can someone no one wants to kill date me plz

Dumey? Corrik? Where ya at

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SirChris
03/04/24 11:48:53 AM
#200:


lmao

mzero and dayvigging sbell name a more iconic duo

anyway this game has gotten more fun now that i have a proper amount of sleep. Let chaos reign down upon us as we all shack up

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