globally leftist/communist terrorism is second only to Islamic terrorism
the only people who think so are the ones afraid of being punched for being a Nazi
And they probably think antifa is worse because an occasional punch is somehow worse than a long history of murders
-Tennesse church shootingdon't forget the baseball field.
-Weis Market shooting
-"Kill frat boys" U of T stabbing
Plus, antifa was put on terrorist watchlists for the FBI and DHS going as far back as the Obama Administration.
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/01/antifa-charlottesville-violence-fbi-242235
Violence should be opposed no matter what side it comes from, and dialogue and understanding promoted.
Commies and nazis are different sides of the same coin.
gunplagirl posted...
the only people who think so are the ones afraid of being punched for being a Nazi
And they probably think antifa is worse because an occasional punch is somehow worse than a long history of murders
Communists which is who Antifa basically are, has a even bigger death toll than fascism LOL.
Commies and nazis are different sides of the same coin.
-Tennesse church shooting
-Weis Market shooting
-"Kill frat boys" U of T stabbing
Plus, antifa was put on terrorist watchlists for the FBI and DHS going as far back as the Obama Administration.
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/01/antifa-charlottesville-violence-fbi-242235
Violence should be opposed no matter what side it comes from, and dialogue and understanding promoted.
Communism: support everyone in society and provide for them
Not equally, no. Unfortunately, this naturally pivots into what everyone seems to be falling for; the the enemy of my enemy is my friend crap in a universe where its possible to be too cold or too hot. Mind you, Germany in the 1930s or whatever elected the Nazis in because they were better than the communists. Communists are bad. Nazis are bad.
Nazis are bad. Antifa is bad. There is no false dichotomy here, its not one or the other, lesser of two evils crap. If you call yourself a law abiding citizen with the best interests in your community, then you wont settle for a society that accepts either of these evils.
Funny, people use the "neo Nazis aren't Nazis" argument to erase their death toll yet they gladly do that against antifa who, while many outspoken ones are communist, aren't even in the same branches of communism that descended from those ones with death tolls.
m_mungmung posted...
Not equally, no. Unfortunately, this naturally pivots into what everyone seems to be falling for; the the enemy of my enemy is my friend crap in a universe where its possible to be too cold or too hot. Mind you, Germany in the 1930s or whatever elected the Nazis in because they were better than the communists. Communists are bad. Nazis are bad.
Nazis are bad. Antifa is bad. There is no false dichotomy here, its not one or the other, lesser of two evils crap. If you call yourself a law abiding citizen with the best interests in your community, then you wont settle for a society that accepts either of these evils.
Get rid of fascists like nazis and antifa won't exist anymore.
I think both groups are pieces of shit, except that the alt right is on a higher tier.
gunplagirl posted...
Communism: support everyone in society and provide for them
Yeah, we see how well that has worked out in the USSR, and is now happening in South America.
As for south america, I'm pretty sure there's several dozen governments and if you can't even name a country you have in mind with this post, well... It means you aren't even using Google just to make sure you have your countries right.
gunplagirl posted...
Funny, people use the "neo Nazis aren't Nazis" argument to erase their death toll yet they gladly do that against antifa who, while many outspoken ones are communist, aren't even in the same branches of communism that descended from those ones with death tolls.
Or, maybe they're just saying people should be consistent and not hold double standards. One side is nazis + non fascists and the other is communists + non socialists. Applying guilt by association logic to one side but not the other makes one look disingenuous.
Restrain posted...
-Tennesse church shootingdon't forget the baseball field.
-Weis Market shooting
-"Kill frat boys" U of T stabbing
Plus, antifa was put on terrorist watchlists for the FBI and DHS going as far back as the Obama Administration.
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/01/antifa-charlottesville-violence-fbi-242235
Violence should be opposed no matter what side it comes from, and dialogue and understanding promoted.
gunplagirl posted...
m_mungmung posted...
Not equally, no. Unfortunately, this naturally pivots into what everyone seems to be falling for; the the enemy of my enemy is my friend crap in a universe where its possible to be too cold or too hot. Mind you, Germany in the 1930s or whatever elected the Nazis in because they were better than the communists. Communists are bad. Nazis are bad.
Nazis are bad. Antifa is bad. There is no false dichotomy here, its not one or the other, lesser of two evils crap. If you call yourself a law abiding citizen with the best interests in your community, then you wont settle for a society that accepts either of these evils.
Get rid of fascists like nazis and antifa won't exist anymore.
Get rid of how?
Like imprison them?
Kill them?
How do you propose to "get rid of" an entire idea? Hitler also tried to get rid of communists and we saw how that ended up.
Restrain posted...
gunplagirl posted...
Funny, people use the "neo Nazis aren't Nazis" argument to erase their death toll yet they gladly do that against antifa who, while many outspoken ones are communist, aren't even in the same branches of communism that descended from those ones with death tolls.
Or, maybe they're just saying people should be consistent and not hold double standards. One side is nazis + non fascists and the other is communists + non socialists. Applying guilt by association logic to one side but not the other makes one look disingenuous.
The alt right all hold fascist ideals, that's core to the entire movement. Are you really saying that people who associate with Nazis aren't at least tolerating fascists?
Restrain posted...
gunplagirl posted...
m_mungmung posted...
Not equally, no. Unfortunately, this naturally pivots into what everyone seems to be falling for; the the enemy of my enemy is my friend crap in a universe where its possible to be too cold or too hot. Mind you, Germany in the 1930s or whatever elected the Nazis in because they were better than the communists. Communists are bad. Nazis are bad.
Nazis are bad. Antifa is bad. There is no false dichotomy here, its not one or the other, lesser of two evils crap. If you call yourself a law abiding citizen with the best interests in your community, then you wont settle for a society that accepts either of these evils.
Get rid of fascists like nazis and antifa won't exist anymore.
Get rid of how?
Like imprison them?
Kill them?
How do you propose to "get rid of" an entire idea? Hitler also tried to get rid of communists and we saw how that ended up.
And how did America treat the Nazis? There was an entire war. Killed Nazis left and right. To this day, will still pursue any former leader for war crimes. And Germany plus most of Europe in the time since has completely banned any sort of Nazi items or messages supporting them. That's how you get rid of them.
gunplagirl posted...
Restrain posted...
gunplagirl posted...
Funny, people use the "neo Nazis aren't Nazis" argument to erase their death toll yet they gladly do that against antifa who, while many outspoken ones are communist, aren't even in the same branches of communism that descended from those ones with death tolls.
Or, maybe they're just saying people should be consistent and not hold double standards. One side is nazis + non fascists and the other is communists + non socialists. Applying guilt by association logic to one side but not the other makes one look disingenuous.
The alt right all hold fascist ideals, that's core to the entire movement. Are you really saying that people who associate with Nazis aren't at least tolerating fascists?
As long as you're not violent and don't try to oppress others, I don't care what your ideals are.
Communist or Fascist.
I wish alt-right vs. antifa would settle their differences through a tennis tournament or a series of dance dance revolution competitions, instead of destabilizing the country I love so much through street fighting and retaliatory violence. I do not want to live through a 2nd civil war and that's both of their god dman faults if shit goes south.
gunplagirl posted...
Restrain posted...
gunplagirl posted...
m_mungmung posted...
Not equally, no. Unfortunately, this naturally pivots into what everyone seems to be falling for; the the enemy of my enemy is my friend crap in a universe where its possible to be too cold or too hot. Mind you, Germany in the 1930s or whatever elected the Nazis in because they were better than the communists. Communists are bad. Nazis are bad.
Nazis are bad. Antifa is bad. There is no false dichotomy here, its not one or the other, lesser of two evils crap. If you call yourself a law abiding citizen with the best interests in your community, then you wont settle for a society that accepts either of these evils.
Get rid of fascists like nazis and antifa won't exist anymore.
Get rid of how?
Like imprison them?
Kill them?
How do you propose to "get rid of" an entire idea? Hitler also tried to get rid of communists and we saw how that ended up.
And how did America treat the Nazis? There was an entire war. Killed Nazis left and right. To this day, will still pursue any former leader for war crimes. And Germany plus most of Europe in the time since has completely banned any sort of Nazi items or messages supporting them. That's how you get rid of them.
So you're proposing the mass slaughter of American citizens based on thought crimes...?
How does that not make you as bad as a Nazi?
They're both shitty, however talking to someone (in contrast to deplatforming) doesn't automatically mean you endorse everything they've ever done.
Both the right and left have parts that are extremely cringey, again one of the main reasons I identity as a centrist, dirty dirty centrist, because I'd rather not shove myself into one side or another that both have insane views and pick the best from both.
-Gavirulax- posted...
They're both shitty, however talking to someone (in contrast to deplatforming) doesn't automatically mean you endorse everything they've ever done.
Both the right and left have parts that are extremely cringey, again one of the main reasons I identity as a centrist, dirty dirty centrist, because I'd rather not shove myself into one side or another that both have insane views and pick the best from both.
The problem with centrism is that if you don't stand against the crappy views, then you passively allow it to exist and grow.
gunplagirl posted...
-Gavirulax- posted...
They're both shitty, however talking to someone (in contrast to deplatforming) doesn't automatically mean you endorse everything they've ever done.
Both the right and left have parts that are extremely cringey, again one of the main reasons I identity as a centrist, dirty dirty centrist, because I'd rather not shove myself into one side or another that both have insane views and pick the best from both.
The problem with centrism is that if you don't stand against the crappy views, then you passively allow it to exist and grow.
But centrists stand against the crappy views of both sides by nature of their position.
So you completely missed the BANNED IN EUROPE part and how we still pursue the former leaders with world courts?
Restrain posted...
gunplagirl posted...
-Gavirulax- posted...
They're both shitty, however talking to someone (in contrast to deplatforming) doesn't automatically mean you endorse everything they've ever done.
Both the right and left have parts that are extremely cringey, again one of the main reasons I identity as a centrist, dirty dirty centrist, because I'd rather not shove myself into one side or another that both have insane views and pick the best from both.
The problem with centrism is that if you don't stand against the crappy views, then you passively allow it to exist and grow.
But centrists stand against the crappy views of both sides by nature of their position.
They're ideologically opposed, but to espouse a view with no genuine and effective action behind it is moot.
CarlGrimes posted...
Commies and nazis are different sides of the same coin.
Communism: support everyone in society and provide for them
Nazis: create a white ethnostate that won't provide for the poor whites who are not murdered
For other totally asinine statements, see also
Tacos and skyscrapers are different sides of the same coin
gunplagirl posted...
CarlGrimes posted...
Commies and nazis are different sides of the same coin.
Communism: support everyone in society and provide for them
Nazis: create a white ethnostate that won't provide for the poor whites who are not murdered
For other totally asinine statements, see also
Tacos and skyscrapers are different sides of the same coin
Correction.
Communism: everybody starves togethor or at least the normal people.
Nazis=Fascist and despite your racist beliefs isn't confined to whites.
gunplagirl posted...
CarlGrimes posted...
Commies and nazis are different sides of the same coin.
Communism: support everyone in society and provide for them
Nazis: create a white ethnostate that won't provide for the poor whites who are not murdered
For other totally asinine statements, see also
Tacos and skyscrapers are different sides of the same coin
Correction.
Communism: everybody starves togethor or at least the normal people.
Nazis=Fascist and despite your racist beliefs isn't confined to whites.
What I think about is how does antifa want to divide Americans? Nazis want to destroy America through racism and sexism.
gunplagirl posted...
So you completely missed the BANNED IN EUROPE part and how we still pursue the former leaders with world courts?
Yeah, I disagree with censorship or persecuting political dissidents, sorry bud.
Newhopes posted...
gunplagirl posted...
CarlGrimes posted...
Commies and nazis are different sides of the same coin.
Communism: support everyone in society and provide for them
Nazis: create a white ethnostate that won't provide for the poor whites who are not murdered
For other totally asinine statements, see also
Tacos and skyscrapers are different sides of the same coin
Correction.
Communism: everybody starves togethor or at least the normal people.
Nazis=Fascist and despite your racist beliefs isn't confined to whites.
Unlike Nazism, there's nothing inherently evil about Communism.
Restrain posted...
gunplagirl posted...
So you completely missed the BANNED IN EUROPE part and how we still pursue the former leaders with world courts?
Yeah, I disagree with censorship or persecuting political dissidents, sorry bud.
So you're okay with radical islamists showing up to your city and holding a rally calling for your death?
And it's only persecution of political dissidents if you are giving them the benefit of referring to their belief system as a valid political view. It really isn't in any sense. Incidentally, by allowing them to espouse their views without push back, you get situations like Charlottesville.