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I just got my soccer mom Persephone to return to the underworld and the game played the credits. Is that the game's official ending and now I'm just doing runs for the sake of it, getting loot to make more upgrades and shit and the only 'story' thing is maxing out relationships? Or is there more proper story sneakily secretly hiding somewhere?

I envision this as a yes or no question, maybe a small hint if it's hard to come by, but no outright telling of how to do what and when where how.

But you do you.
Aside from the individual character quests, there is more story, but it's more of an epilogue kinda thing.
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Thankee sai.
no, you have the epilogue to do
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Wtf my man Charon attacked me and hes stronger than my dad.
There is, and the small hint I'll give is just keep giving characters gifts.
...I think I'm done here...
DodogamaRayBrst posted...
Wtf my man Charon attacked me and hes stronger than my dad.
Well dont steal his shit
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I would personally say the epilogue is not worth it if you feel done with the game. Easier to just look it up on Youtube. If you're still loving the gameplay, then it can be a good goal to work towards.
Didn't expect a Guan Yu reference.
ohmigaaaaaaawd Zagreus and Thanatos sitting in a tree, judging mortals to eternal torment.
DodogamaRayBrst posted...
ohmigaaaaaaawd Zagreus and Thanatos sitting in a tree, judging mortals to eternal torment.
That's your brother
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thanatos is not zags brother
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ConfusedTorchic posted...
thanatos is not zags brother
They would have grown up thinking they were, though? Or at least Zagreus would have.
no?
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Nyx is Thanatos' mom.

Zagreus thought Nyx was his mom his whole life.

What's confusing?
Foster brother, but these are the Greek gods we're talking about, it'd be weirder if there wasn't at least a little incest, that's kind of their thing.
Thus I became a madman.
ConfusedTorchic posted...
no?
Yes. Thanatos and Zagreus thought they were half brothers until very recently.

But as mentioned, incest is super common among Greek gods. This game goes a little out of its way to avoid it by saying Demeter isn't properly related to the other Olympians, but it still squeezes in a what are you doing stepbro moment.
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pegusus123456 posted...


But as mentioned, incest is super common among Greek gods.

Considering they were all one big family, was hard to avoid it, if was god x god. Just a question of how close they were related.
WTF DUH I DUH
I got confused today or yesterday when Demeter gave me a line about Helios being her brother, and I was like "...but isn't Helios a titan?"

So I looked it up and found out that the game CENSORS greek incest!

pegusus123456 posted...
incest is super common among Greek gods.
Been engaging with Greek history lately and it wasn't just the gods >_>

DodogamaRayBrst posted...
Been engaging with Greek history lately and it wasn't just the gods >_>
I think the mortals avoid the sibling incest, at least.
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WizardPowers posted...
Is the dodge worse in 2? Movement overall feels sluggish so far but maybe it's me
It's not worse just different. If you got used to Zag being able to quickly do multiple dodges, then it can be rough. But Mel's dodge into a sprint is super handy for avoiding certain attacks.

DodogamaRayBrst posted...
So I looked it up and found out that the game CENSORS greek incest!
Yeah, the devs go out of their way to change the incest relationships in Greek mythology. Hera is only related to the others via marriage, instead of being Zeus's sister. Persephone's father is some mortal, instead of it being Zeus again, since Demeter is his sister. There's a lot of changes they made because there's a lot of incest lol
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pegusus123456 posted...
Yes. Thanatos and Zagreus thought they were half brothers until very recently.

not this games versions, no.
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ConfusedTorchic posted...
not this games versions, no.
Yes, this game's version. The game doesn't call attention to it for obvious reasons, but Zagreus thought Nyx was his mother until he learned about Persephone. The two of them grew up thinking they were half brothers.
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zag only ever refers to than as a childhood friend, there is no reference to zag thinking he was his brother in the game
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ConfusedTorchic posted...
zag only ever refers to than as a childhood friend, there is no reference to zag thinking he was his brother in the game

pegusus123456 posted...
The game doesn't call attention to it for obvious reasons

Like this is just basic logic. Zagreus and Thanatos both grew up thinking Nyx was their mother. They would obviously believe they were half brothers.
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Oh, this is one of those things ConfusedTortic sometimes does when he is bored where people literally prove him wrong and he just keeps insisting he is right for his own amusement. Seen it a couple of times.
pegusus123456 posted...
Like this is just basic logic. Zagreus and Thanatos both grew up thinking Nyx was their mother. They would obviously believe they were half brothers.

ConfusedTorchic posted...
not this games versions, no.

thanatos, within the context of the game, was already an adult and gone by the time zag was born.

there's also the deleted tweets from the head writer of both games, who confirmed they knew they weren't related, but sometime since dude made those posts, he seems to have cleaned out all of his twitter posts, so take from that what you will.
https://web.archive.org/web/20201005203225/https://twitter.com/kasavin/status/1312893491370881025

i don't think anyone in this topic knows just how many liberties supergiant took with this mythos, but it's pretty much completely changed, even giving gods different parents instead of having them all just come from the same one.
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I think it's probably more accurate to say that Thanatos and Hypnos knew that they weren't actually related to Zag. But in the game Zagreus did believe that Nyx was his mother. But he also felt like he didn't belong and couldn't really pin down why he felt that way, until he found out about Persephone.
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ConfusedTorchic posted...
thanatos, within the context of the game, was already an adult and gone by the time zag was born.
He didn't know Zagreus was Persephone's kid. No one in the Underworld knew the truth except Hades and Nyx.

The quote the guy you're talking about tweeted
"Thanatos is Zagreus childhood friend. They always knew they were not related despite Nyx also raising Zagreus. Still, some of your friends in the community I understand feel this crosses a line and makes their feelings for each other unacceptable. I appreciate the feedback."

But you can say whatever you want outside the game, it's not really reflected in the actual game. Just going by the text found in the game, Thanatos and Zagreus 100% thought they were brothers for actual years.
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pegusus123456 posted...
Like this is just basic logic. Zagreus and Thanatos both grew up thinking Nyx was their mother. They would obviously believe they were half brothers.

It was very obvious that mother in this context meant. Adoptive mother.
It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha."
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Tyranthraxus posted...
It was very obvious that mother in this context meant. Adoptive mother.
There's no indication Zagreus thought he sprang from Hades' knee or something.

He thought Nyx was his birth mother.
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pegusus123456 posted...
There's no indication Zagreus thought he sprang from Hades' knee or something.

He thought Nyx was his birth mother.
All the dialogue I've read points to this.
pegusus123456 posted...
Thanatos and Zagreus 100% thought they were brothers for actual years.

no they didn't lmfao. there is nothing in the game that even suggests this.

Zagreus : "Somehow, I always knew. You know ... that you were not my birthmother. I mean, look at Hypnos and Thanatos. There's no way that I could have been related to them , everybody knew, and yet ... when I finally learned for certain, it was still a shock."

dialogue 4 with nyx literally has zag saying he never thought of nyx as mother, or thanatos and hypnos as brothers.
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ConfusedTorchic posted...
dialogue 4 with nyx literally has zag saying he never thought of nyx as mother, or thanatos and hypnos as brothers.
That's great.

He still thought Nyx was his birth mother and they were both his siblings even if he didn't feel that way.
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Apparently the reason I haven't caught any legendary fish is because it requires the reaction time of a young spring buck and I'm a decrepit old man.

Feels bad.
DodogamaRayBrst posted...
Apparently the reason I haven't caught any legendary fish is because it requires the reaction time of a young spring buck and I'm a decrepit old man.

Feels bad.
Apparently it's way easier to go by sound and just ignore your eyes.

But I also never caught a legendary fish soooooo
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pegusus123456 posted...
Apparently it's way easier to go by sound and just ignore your eyes.
Human reaction time in general is quite a bit faster with sounds than it is visually.
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Zag be like oh no what are you doing stepbro
Ghosts are cool.
pegusus123456 posted...
That's great.

He still thought Nyx was his birth mother and they were both his siblings even if he didn't feel that way.

prove it.

i've provided several pieces of concrete evidence that completely and wholly prove you wrong.

so put your money where your mouth is.
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I just hit that point over the weekend too! I knew there was an epilogue but I was pretty burned out on Hades. I think I did a couple more runs then moved on Hades II. I'll need to watch the epilogue story sometime.

Hades II is kind of more of the same but it's different enough that I didn't feel the burnout. The beginning feels way harder than the beginning of Hades did. I'm a scrub so I started II with god mode on and I think I beat the Hades-equivalent on my 11th try or so. Fishing is back, but it comes much later, or did for me anyway.
DodogamaRayBrst posted...
Apparently the reason I haven't caught any legendary fish is because it requires the reaction time of a young spring buck and I'm a decrepit old man.

Feels bad.
Legendary fish was the first thing I said "screw that" to in the game after finding out why one was never coming up. About 1/3 of a second reaction time required and still only 50% chance after that.
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ConfusedTorchic posted...
i've provided several pieces of concrete evidence that completely and wholly prove you wrong.
You've provided one piece of dialogue where Zagreus is talking about how he felt.
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pegusus123456 posted...
You've provided one piece of dialogue where Zagreus is talking about how he felt.

And the literal developers statement but who are they anyway besides just the guys who wrote the story?
It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha."
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Tyranthraxus posted...
And the literal developers statement but who are they anyway besides just the guys who wrote the story?
Probably should have better reflected it in game if that was the intent.
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Does it matter? Incest and old gods is fairly common.
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pegusus123456 posted...
You've provided one piece of dialogue where Zagreus is talking about how he felt.

and you've provided nothing.
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ConfusedTorchic posted...
and you've provided nothing.
Basic logic
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pegusus123456 posted...
Basic logic
Logically, if Zagreus says "I always knew you weren't my real mother" that includes any time they spent as a child with Thanatos as such a time is contained within the set of time known as "always"
It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha."
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