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All right, I am basically done with Chapter 11 in Final Fantasy VII Rebirth!

So Nibelheim was repurposed into a "mako poisoning treatment center," huh. It's interesting that they don't just try to pretend they're residents who've lived there for years like the original game. Also, they're really trying to get me to invest in this Wutai storyline with Glen Lodbrok, and I just ain't there yet. I suppose it might hit differently if you actually played Ever Crisis.

Anyway, exploring Shinra Manor was pretty good. Controlling Cait Sith felt a little clunky at times, but it was a nice change of pace, at least. I like making Yin and Yang into a mini-boss fight, and I'm glad they kept Lost Number (or whatever they called it in this game. Forgotten Experiment or something boring) in as a boss fight, too.

I wonder how Vincent responds if you tell him your foe is Shinra or Wutai. I figured the "right" answer was Sephiroth, but I'd be curious to know how the dialogue changes with the other two. I like how they made Vincent's first Limit Break into a boss fight. That was pretty fun. He didn't leave with us though, so I wonder what brings us back around to have him "join" the party (although I already know he's not playable). I guess they did this to have him join really late to justify him not being playable, like with Red XIII in Remake.

Cid finally has some storyline significance here by telling us that he knew Ifalna, and he met Aerith when she was really young. I guess Aerith must look a lot like her mom if Cid could recognize her! He offers to fly us to Gold Saucer for free so we can find the Keystone in order to enter the Temple of the Ancients. Oh right, I did like the pained expression on Reeve's face during the Shinra meeting when they show the Cait Sith camera. Nice touch.
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Adamant
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Darklaw was absolutely trying to prosecute Espella for the murder of the Storyteller (and in the overarching plot, being the cause of the Legendary Fire)

Layton comes in for the final...maybe 20% of the case? And the Storyteller is maybe there for the final 10% of it. As Bitto said, this is a really long case. In fact, counting the "investigation" segment after the trial segment of L-3 ends, it takes up almost half the game.
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Dels posted...
It's a big exposition dump.

I mean the very very end of it is

but there's a lot of stuff that happens before that
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ZenOfThunder posted...
Reference Links:
https://www.vulture.com/article/100-hardest-video-game-bosses-ranked.html

*clicks link*

*sees Bowser (Super Mario 64) at 100*

LOL

also having KH2 Sephiroth on there over the KH1 version (and in the top ten to boot) is just wrong

I beat KH2 Sephiroth, which tells you all you need to know
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neonreaper posted...
Hmm there were decent TEs available, why pick someone who will be snatched off the practice squad

I wonder who the TE was that people said New England should have drafted instead of Tom Brady
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Dels posted...
This isn't a case.

????
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I always thought Ruby was considered the more difficult of the two
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Anagram posted...
She doesn't get charged in AA3, does she?

She doesn't get arrested in T&T, but she does get accused of killing her mother by Dahlia in 3-5, so I guess the streak could be getting accused of murder instead...!
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I doubt anyone's trading up for Harrison and the top 3 will almost certainly draft QBs if they stay where they are, so you should be good on that count

Just gotta trust Arizona to do the right thing...!
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as a Titans fan I'm just hoping the Chargers don't take Joe Alt at 5

or that the Cowboys don't draft a QB in the first round
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PS1 vs. N64 wasn't close. The PS1 sold around 100 million and the N64 sold around 30-35 million.
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I did appreciate the progress you saw in the animations starting with this case. Showing Maya holding the pipe was something cool you didn't see in previous games.

Hot take time: Most of PW1's soundtrack isn't very good (it's got a few very memorable tracks, don't get me wrong), so hearing remixes of them doesn't do much for me.
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Hbthebattle posted...
Is it the best one ever though

for me it is

you can vote for your favorite too

If someone wants to include the N64 or the Wii just because it's their personal favorite console ever, I don't have an issue with that.

I doubt anyone voting for the Wii is doing it out of favoritism though.
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it's totally okay to just include "the best one ever" on a Rushmore

you don't just have to pick stuff based on cultural relevance
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Yes, the N64 is a very top heavy console, but you have to ignore a lot of its negatives to include it on a Rushmore. If you want to include a Nintendo console for its library, just pick the SNES.
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it innovated being the best console ever made imhotbqh
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MarkS2222222222 posted...
Someone explain the lack of N64 votes. I thought that was a lock

The N64 should only be on a Rushmore if you just want to demonstrate how Nintendo lost its rock solid grip on the video game market.

like yeah it's right up our alley but it's not exactly a total success story
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Okay, I am basically done with Rebirth Chapter 10, aside from cleaning up World Intel stuff.

As I mentioned before, this depiction of Cosmo Canyon was practically perfect. It looked super good and had the right atmosphere, in addition to the banger remix of the town theme.

I liked how they portrayed Bugenhagen here. He's still mostly the wise old sage, but the mask drops a couple of times, and you can see his frustration and hopelessness at the Planet's situation. I thought it was interesting that he basically said it was impossible that we saw Weapons, but he never really elaborates on why he thinks that.

The Cave of the Gi was pretty good. It would've been nice if you could've chosen Red XIII's partner instead of it having to be Barret, but he was a pretty good choice if it had to just be one party member. I loved him putting on his sunglasses to cover up his tears when he sees Red XIII's interaction with Seto.

Then we got two big detours back to back. As Gi Nattak is ferrying us over to the Gi Village, we get another Zack scene, and it's the wildest one yet. Zack and Biggs both say that right before their deaths, they saw a wind and next thing they knew, they were somewhere completely different and alive. On top of that, their memories don't match because (I assume) they were saved at different points in time. Biggs has memories of Mercenary Cloud, but Zack is still taking care of comatose Cloud, who hasn't awoken to that persona yet. Zack believes Aerith was the one who saved them, but I agree with Biggs when he asks, "Why me?" It's an interesting choice to save him out of all the members of Avalanche.

Back to the Gi Village, they explain that they're cursed to be wandering spirits who can never return to the Lifestream because they weren't created by it. So where did they come from then? Are they offshoots of Jenova or something? Regardless, they wanted to find a way to end their existence, and that's how the Black Materia came into existence. However, Gi Nattak claimed the Cetra stole it from them before they could use it, and he asks us to get it back for him. Well, I guess if Meteor destroyed the Planet, that would do the trick and get rid of the Gi, too.

Cait Sith thinks he might know where the Black Materia is when Gi Nattak said it was located at a place of Cetra worship. I guess Shinra already found it, so if he can find access to a Shinra terminal, he could verify it for sure. Unfortunately, Bugenhagen repurposed Cosmo Canyon's into a windmill! When a black robed guy shows up at the front gate muttering about Nibelheim, Cait Sith is sure there's a terminal there. Nobody knows how to bring up that Nibelheim shouldn't exist anymore, but we're headed there anyway!
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it's fine, I think all the babes brawled and there aren't any left anyway
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Blackquill just walking out of the courtroom during Hugh's body double testimony is one of his best moments
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It does feel longer than that, but it moves at a pretty fast pace. They cram in a lot of stuff into a small window of time.
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Yeah, Midgar is like 5 hours, and that's if you take your time!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cd8lRJDKmho

oh man it's almost here
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vs. Gourdy
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Yeah, I knew he wasn't in charge of it anymore, but the idea was initially his.
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Maniac64 posted...
News to me.

Edit: And now I see why, nobody posts there.

I believe it was Ange's idea because he thought the site was old and outdated, and thought it would be better just to move things over there

nobody else agreed with him
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Nominate "City of ______"
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okay I was not ready for the abrupt turn the end of the chicken sidequest in Gongaga took
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first they came for the contests, then they came for the POTDs
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Draft is almost here
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the timing of this POTD feels a bit too "coincidental"
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Pop
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be mad at me for saying what they're thinking but don't get mad at them for actually implementing these policies
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in other words, we'll get all the worst hornyposters from CE

can't wait
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transience posted...
wait, what will red sox do now

bring back The Chronologist

he's already lost tracking Crono/Mario and Crono/Vincent trends

the man has suffered enough
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my favorite random detail of the past murder is that Delicia consumed some of Dover's blood when she was eating his dessert
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andylt posted...
And I think he's never personally killed anyone, which must be a first for a big bad.

Engarde didn't directly kill anyone either.

also I think I enjoyed Daley shaking himself at Barry like he was being choked more than even dancing Sholmes

just so delightfully awkward
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UshiromiyaEva posted...
Nothing is forcing anyone to have to play through that 250 hours if they don't feel like it's worth it

correct
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UshiromiyaEva posted...
It has ober 250 hours of 100% free main story content, the barrier could not be lower!

the barrier could be much lower than 250 hours, that'd be nice
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foolm0r0n posted...
The difference is that the original obviously rushed through Midgar and it was straight up bad.

yikes
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KamikazePotato posted...
Tifa's debated 2018 run would be a complete stomp these days. MMX, Luigi, and Sephiroth would all get crushed by the might of the Italian Senate.

I think Luigi would still have a chance, although he probably loses. Between Luigi's Mansion 3, Mario Wonder, and the Mario movie, he's probably held up pretty well over the last 6 years.
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Fit
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TeamRocketElite posted...
This does not sound promising for his results in the next Character Battle.

he definitely ain't winning a rematch with Tifa, I'll tell you that
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KamikazePotato posted...
All other issues aside, I think the way Remake and Rebirth have handled Sephiroth is extremely disappointing. I haven't seen a single new player have any investment in him as a villain whatsoever.

They're using him way too much. FFVII took a "less is more" approach with Sephiroth. He's not actually in the original game that much, but they made almost every scene with him count. There's very little fluff any time he appears. As such, he's super memorable, and it feels like he's in the game a ton because you remember every time he shows up.

Heck, even some of the times you don't actually see him leave a big impression, like him killing the Midgar Zolom.
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foolm0r0n posted...
It's a very tiny story (chase Sephiroth, then way later, get black materia) in a huge open game. Remake had a much more detailed story which is why it was able to spend so much time on its story.

I mean big story in terms of scale. The scope, maybe not so much. You cover a lot of ground, even if the overarching story doesn't necessarily progress that much.

Remake took 5 hours of content and stretched them into 40, all while basically staying in the same place the entire time. Remake had a lot of time to fill, and it did a good job of it.
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Kinglicious posted...
They didn't "get lucky" with Master Chief, they just read the room better.

If Chief always has high prediction percentages (and he does), no, they didn't. They got lucky. If Link always had low prediction percentages, it wouldn't mean they "read the room" the three times he didn't win.

Kinglicious posted...
I'll give an analogy since I don't think you're getting it. Say someone is specialized in a certain betting contest, like horses or football. They crunch numbers, they make bets, they usually get things right but a few things wrong. If a race or game happens that goes wildly out of scope, they adjust accordingly. For reference this isn't a pure hypothetical, people like this exist. Now make a board full of them. What they get right or wrong is not what an upset is in that respective sport, what determines the upset is the people in the overall pool. That includes the casuals. B8 is good at predicting the right 3:1 odds winners. That doesn't mean we're right and sometimes what we think is 3 to 1 is actually the opposite.

Oh, you mean sharps? Yeah, those people absolutely impact betting lines and determine if something turns out to be an upset or not.

The public loves to bet underdogs. That doesn't mean it's not an upset when one wins.
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oh man and now an Under the Apple Tree remix heck yeah
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I think you mean wihch is it

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