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Well regardless, if we weren't counting NXT/Superstars, there'd be a crapload of guys whose only Raw/SD appearances were losing in Brodus Clay squashes, and thus there would be a lot more names on that list.

EDIT: And that reminds me, yes, JTG HAS had a match on Raw in 2012...losing to the Funkasaurus!

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Whoops, I had to delete Kane, because I wasn't looking at March records too.

And I included internet televised!

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So I was looking at the detailed win/loss records for WWE, and I notice that there are 3 regular roster guys who still do not have a televised (or internet televised) win in 2012:

The Miz
JTG
Ezekiel Jackson

To be fair, Zeke does have house show wins. The other 2 do not.

Who will be the last to pick up a win this calendar year?

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Randy Savage

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The conference gets to choose how to distribute their automatic bid anyway. If the Pac-12 wanted to give their bid to their regular season Champion and not do a tournament (like the Ivy League), they are free to.

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From: DeathChicken | #120
Jericho: I hate you because of my ALCOHOLIC RECESSIVE GENES

THROUGH THIS ARM...BAR!

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1 PM EDT, ESPN if anyone wants to watch the drama as it unfolds.

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Tell us, how did you celebrate upon clinching the victory?

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emergency special episode 57 of Z!TLIS

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From: SmartMuffin | #105
Right, but he doesn't KNOW. That's the point.

Punk is exactly the sort of obnoxiously overbearing person to declare that his beliefs are fact though. <____<

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Well, as Jericho revealed last night, Punk's decision not to drink doesn't just come from some arbitrary decision, it comes from a deep-rooted conviction due to childhood trauma. He already has the belief that alcohol CAUSES problems, not solves them.

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And yeah, as someone who doesn't drink and hasn't had a drink for almost 5 years now, there really just is no temptation whatsoever.

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From: SmartMuffin | #095
The only reason anyone would believe that is if they read dirtsheets, and people like that DESERVE to go through life miserable.

What if I believe it just because it doesn't make any logical sense for Jericho to win the title, and that doesn't bother me because I love logic and good booking?

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Well because alcoholism is a much more tasteful subject than necrophilia, for starters.

EDIT: BTW that feud didn't need anything either. That was a match to unify the World Heavyweight Championship with the Intercontinental Championship, presumably forever. And they thought it needed THAT to sell it?

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From: edwardsdv | #085
This FEELS like Triple H

I think it's because Triple H already pulled this stunt with the Katie Vick stuff.

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From: edwardsdv | #083
Hart vs. Piper from VIII

I have that one in there as a lock already.

From: XIII_rocks | #084
Maybe they have a plan for this that has to be put into effect now? Maybe what they have planned for the feud they wouldn't be able to execute properly in the 3 weeks between WM and ER.

Ha! They usually barely are able to come up with enough content to fill 3 weeks of build, I doubt they suddenly have a storyline that will take 6.

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Plus, this is only gonna make Punk want to murder Jericho, which lends itself much more to Extreme Rules than to WM.

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Former writer Seth Mates said something on Twitter that I 100% agree with:

The Punk/Jericho storyline is an inherently GOOD one, but right now it's totally not needed. AT ALL.

Why not keep that in your back pocket, do Punk vs. Jericho at WM just with the current "Who is the Best in the World?" build, and then USE THIS ANGLE as a way for Jericho to get a rematch at Extreme Rules after he loses, when they'll actually need to find a way to make it interesting because it's already happened once.

I have no idea why they're throwing this angle in NOW so close to the event. It's proven that it can be done very well, but it just muddies things up when they were going fine.

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THPS4 is the best Tony Hawk game

THPS3 is also an acceptable answer if you don't like the free-roaming aspect.

THUG has way too many stupid vehicle missions.

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From: EmDubyaSee | #069
I'm more getting at, how? Especially Rock Austin 3. I get if you want to say Austin Michaels had a hurt Michaels, and was more about the MOMENT than the match, I'm ok with that. Rock Austin 3 had everything you could ever want, especially in a blow off match.

I think it's a **** match, but all of the other 20 I have in front of it are AT LEAST **** matches. I guess it just didn't "feel" like a stone cold lock (pun intended) compared to some of the rest, possibly due to the fact that they already had a better WM match. Although I guess that doesn't stop both HBK/Taker matches.

Basically it comes down to this: would practically everyone agree that Austin/Rock is one of the 28 best matches in Wrestlemania history? If that answer is yes, then it should be a lock. I just wasn't sure about that, even though *I* think it is, so I just threw it in the mop-up section.

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Because I think they aren't AS GOOD as the other 20 matches I listed, to be honest.

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Not-so-Random-Thought

This being the 28th Wrestlemania, I wonder how close of a consensus we could come to the 28 best WM matches of all-time.

No-Brainers
Steamboat vs. Savage (3)
Hogan vs. Savage (5)
Warrior vs. Hogan (6)
Warrior vs. Savage (7)
Hart vs. Piper (8)
Savage vs. Flair (8)
Hart vs. Hart (10)
Ramon vs. Michaels (10)
Michaels vs. Hart (12)
Hart vs. Austin (13)
Edge & Christian vs. Hardy Boyz vs. Dudley Boyz (16)
Edge & Christian vs. Hardy Boyz vs. Dudley Boyz (17)
Austin vs. Rock (17)
Michaels vs. Jericho (19)
Benoit vs. Triple H vs. Michaels (20)
Angle vs. Michaels (21)
Michaels vs. Flair (24)
Undertaker vs. Edge (24)
Undertaker vs. Michaels (25)
Undertaker vs. Michaels (26)
TOTAL: 20

That leaves 8 spots open.

Here would be my picks, for various reasons:
Hogan/T vs. Orndorff/Piper (1)
Hogan vs. Andre (3)
Austin vs. Michaels (14)
Angle vs. Benoit (17)
McMahon vs. McMahon (17)
Rock vs. Hogan (18)
Rock vs. Austin (19)
Money in the Bank 1 (21)

What do you guys think? Disagree with any of my locks? What would you pick to round out the list?

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"Book a worked shoot where you run them out of the company because you hate their creative control, but make sure that you insult them on camera so hard that they leave for real."

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Rock karaoke sucked though. :-(

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This is real:


BABY FACES, BLADE JOBS and BOOKING

Everything you wanted to know about writing a professional wrestling show but were afraid to ask.

A SEMINAR HOSTED BY VINCE RUSSO

During the years of 1995-2012, Vince Russo was one of the most controversial figures in the history of sports entertainment/professional wrestling, while serving as the head writer of all three major wrestling companies, WWE, WCW and TNA.

During that tenure, Russo wrote over a thousand televised wrestling shows--which achieved some of the highest ratings of all time-- while also having a hand in helping create some of the biggest stars in the history of the business. From Stone Cold Steve Austin to "The Rock", Russo has written for just about anybody who's anybody in the world of sports entertainment/pro wrestling.

Whether it was in front of the camera, or behind the scenes, Russo has played an influential part in helping to bring the drama of the squared circle to the forefront of American pop culture.

Now, in this limited engagement and for the first time ever, Russo is going to bring the "behind the curtain" aspect of his job, into the spotlight, by sharing his craft and experience with wrestling fans around the world. In his ground-breaking seminar entitled, "Baby Faces, Blade Jobs, and Booking", Russo is going to share first hand, what it takes to be a successful writer in the world of sports entertainment/professional wrestling.

Just some of the topics Russo will be covering in this no-holds-barred presentation:

· Where to get your start in writing for a professional wrestling organization.
· How to use the experience you've built to get in the door of one of the major companies
· How to create larger-than-life personas and personalities
· Writing effective dialogue for specific characters
· How to format a wrestling show
· How to generate new ideas 52-weeks out of the year
· How to present and sell your idea to a talent
· How to create a successful working environment between talent and writer
· Dealing with egos
· Overcoming writer's block
· Avoiding the pitfalls of politics
· How to generate ratings
· The difference between "writing" a show and "booking" a show

Baby Faces, Blade Jobs and Booking; nothing will no longer be sacred!!

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Ryder had his gimmick and was using it on ECW before Jersey Shore ever premiered.

His version of a Long Island guido is uniquely his own!

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From: TheRock1525 | #042
He's from Jersey.

I believe their collective IQ is in the single digits.

...how do you miss the LONG ISLAND pimping in all his stuff?

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XFD Eve stood Zack up on their date, according to their Tweets.

How dumb do they expect us to believe Zack is?

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Rock Concert was great...then good...then okay...then dammit that doesn't rhyme....then HOLY **** ROCK WHAT ARE YOU DOING WITH THIS KARAOKE BULL****!

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Is the fact that this song exists 3MRd, or is it actually part of the subtext of 2012 Rock being a big phony?

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Ironic that I was about to make this topic!

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AIM: B8watchesRaw

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LOLDirtsheets are saying:

Swagger, Ziggler, Henry, Otunga, Del Rio, Christian
vs.
Santino, Khali, Kofi, Truth, Zeke, Mysterio

With Bourne on hold in reserve in case Rey isn't ready.

No idea WTF this means for Ryder.

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Oh wow, now I can actually change the K and L in my name to lowercase, this is a sweet deal for me!

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No title changes between Insurrextion and Judgment Day either!

Also no movement on the Invasion front just yet.

WWF Champion: Steve Austin
Tag Team: Steve Austin/Triple H
Intercontinental: Triple H
European: Matt Hardy
Hardcore: Rhyno
Light Heavyweight: Jerry Lynn
Women's: Chyna

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Yeah, he turned heel on the crowd after he beat Darren Young in their blowoff match, and now it's O'Neil and Young vs. Percy Watson and Alex Riley in a feud.

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I have to admit, I love how Titus dove head-first into this heel turn.

He's such a jackass in the ring now and it's funny.

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- Independent wrestler Brodie Lee was signed a WWE developmental deal. Lee is almost seven feet tall and is the latest Dragon Gate USA wrestler to be signed by WWE. [Credit: PWTorch]

0_o

All-Indy-Darlings NXT please!

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From: voltch | #472
Shouldn't it be the major announcers getting it wrong?

Can't see Cole getting it right and Striker calling it wrong.

I meant "lesser" as in "crappier" not "lower on the totem pole"

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From: Panthera | #469
Wait, people don't realize this?

I swear I've heard lesser announcers claim that the non-legal guy coming in for some double team action (with no tag being made) or breaking up a pinfall is "taking advantage of the five count."

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Another tag team fun fact not a lot of people know:

If the bell has rung, and no contact has yet been made between opposing teams, tags aren't necessary. The initial legal men are not officially established until someone engages physically with someone from the other team.

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I feel like the actual logic behind the rules of wrestling are lost on a lot of wrestlers (and fans!)

The 5-count rule in tag matches is GROSSLY misinterpreted, for example. It doesn't mean the non-legal guy can just come in whenever he wants for 5 seconds, it's only meant to be a buffer off of a tag. Technically, coming in to break up a pinfall should be an automatic DQ (although 99% of the time WWE sticks to an unspoken limit of one per team though).

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Is this topic bait to get people to complain about the improper use of "literally," thus furthering your point? >_>

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Technically that stuff isn't allowed on the outside either. Sometimes refs just let things go though.

You can use things inherent to the ring to your advantage (whipping someone into the steps, the post, the barricade, the announce table), but it's still illegal to actually PICK UP the steps or a chair to use them or to clear off the announce table to explicitly put someone through it.

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Well to be fair, the entire Attitude Era operated under those same lax countout rules.

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It's funny, for the two-match series between ANX and the Young Bucks at Showdown in the Sun, one of the matches is a Streetfight and the other is a Tornado Tag, and I'm not sure if by rule there's any actual difference between those two stipulations.

Now granted, obviously they have much different CONNOTATIONS, but still. Is there a difference in kayfabe? Can you get DQed in a Tornado Tag? Is there still a legal man in a street fight?

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From: KommunistKoala | #456
Just watched WGTT against KoW for the tag titles at Honor Takes Center Stage, and I loved the match...except how they disregard the rules of tag team matches. After about 5-10 minutes, it just became a tornado tag match >_>. It was still great, but that irked me a bit! Are the majority of indie (or RoH at least) tag matches like that?

Welcome to the indies, yes.

And I hate it too.

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http://www.wwe.com/videos/greatest-matches

This is free now, by the way.

It used to cost money and I used to be a subscriber before they started really pillaging it.

If anyone finds a way to really browse through the catalog instead of just randomly searching for stuff let me know.

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From: GTM | #453
Winner of the preWM match wins NXT Redemption

Congratulations to The Great Khali! What a season he had! <_<

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Yeah, actually now the question becomes "WTF will they do for the pre-show match/battle royal?"

Yoshi Tatsu vs. The Great Khali, battle of the two most recent pre-WM Battle Royal winners?

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