Lurker > 1337toothbrush

There is still hair, just very fine.

Anime Japanese is. Never how people here actually speak.

Then nothing else can happen. What would you secure the galvanized square steel with?

It's screws borrowed from your aunt.

This gimmick has run its course man.

Tesla sells plenty in China.

Its to protect legacy automakers who cant compete.

They smartly lobbied the govt unlike Tesla who dumbly refuses to play that game in the US.

Only they don't. I have looked up lists of most affordable EVs in America and Tesla tends to be in the middle of each list. And none of the cars on the list tend to be Chinese EVs.

The way people talk about this you would think most EVs being sold in the US are Chinese ones when really very few of them are. It just seems so weird to fight against something that so far isn't even an issue in the US.

winston spent 14 years living under the rule of the CCP. he and laowhy, know first hand, what its like. do you? have you lived in china let alone traveled abroad?

would you like me to cite laowhy86 or david zhang for insight on the b/s of china?

dont start shilling because you havent done a lick of research. continue though i will shut your narrative down everytime.

The Biden admin has been pretty antagonistic to Tesla tbh due to them not using union labor. He's driven the Ford lightning ev truck for example. I think this helps the lagging big auto manufacturers to ramp back up or something.

He is a less than credible source I take it?

https://twitter.com/ninaturner/status/1790527138812305840

far worse than that. the brand of car USA is importing is called BYD. their brand is rubbish, like most things in china.

the car itself is worthless. tires, axel, the entire car itself is a ticking time bomb. teslas are rigged with copper wiring for the batteries. BYD electric cars use aluminum instead to cut costs.

many chinese auto reviewers say BYD EVs are trash tier.

https://youtu.be/yOA7qKMcjcE?si=Hz_1LtUu5TyLFpgA

https://youtu.be/qKa8mVOe5so?si=KlkfaUIzNFF235Z8

https://youtu.be/1SEfwoqKRU8?si=HQSLHfjOJ4ZKpgu8

The most likely outcome of this feels like Americans buying gas-powered vehicles instead

Best case is probably if this forces China to build companies in countries like Mexico and then ship them to the US from Mexico in order to avoid the tariffs. This at least allows some of these manufacturing businesses to not be based in China

The Dems are being very smug to many of their voters. You have Hillary telling people to get over it and they are uneducated. Yeah that drives people to the polls .

There's a significant difference between countries specializing in different things and a country cheating the system by using tax money to artificially deflate the cost of what they're producing until there's nobody else left on the planet that can afford to compete.

What you're talking about is two farmers growing different things and trading produce at the end of the harvest. What China is doing is more like one farmer growing the same produce as the second, but then selling them at half price until the other farmer shuts down and then turning around and charging whatever the hell he wants because there's nobody else growing what he grows.

"if you can't afford a house go fuck yourself" is not a winning strategy to sell vehicles

People aren't going to want random people charging their EVs at their houses. There needs to be a lot of EV charging stations build around the country. Legislation has been passed to build about 500,000 charging stations, I believe, but we still need them to be built.

The actual reason for these tariffs, for those who care, is that we dont want to have critical manufacturing dependent on a current rival and potential future adversary. China is trying to destroy our manufacturing capabilities by subsidizing their own industries; its the same as when a large company lowers prices to destroy competition, then raises prices afterwards. Also, wed have less leverage to stop China from doing things like, say, invading Taiwan, if were dependent on them for keeping our infrastructure stable.

For folks who aren't aware, the Chinese government is currently subsidizing their domestic EV market to bring the prices down to below the manufacturing cost. They're literally undercutting all the competition by having the government make their cars cheaper than it actually cost to make. The tariffs are to keep them from flooding the market and drowning out competition.

Because, for good or for bad, the government tries not to let fraudulent actors scam innocent people out of their money. Even if they're idiots, and deluded enough to insist that they're not getting scammed.

also the whole lack of charging stations anywhere is an issue

This is the failure in the whole plan. Its not even about the economy, just the idea that a hedge fund or major financial institution is going to go bankrupt to buy shares, with money they likely dont have, at insane prices to comply with a contract is crazy. They will just not buy the shares and deal with a lawsuit and fines after the fact. Its much more rational and doesnt involve bankrupting the company.

Lets say I enter into a bunch of contracts that says I will buy millions of shares of GME on some random date. And I dont expect the price to be above $10 on that date.

If suddenly there are games being played in the market to make the price $400/share when the due date comes Im not going to spend 40x the amount to buy the shares, especially when I dont have the money. Im just going to breach the contract.

And she's married to an Indian man?

the IRS is prepared for you

the only reason yall are trying to make this specifically about exclusives is thats all switch has

The board leans Democratic.

Because apparently there aren't tens of thousands of other electric vehicles not selling right now.

Im not defending shit. She doesnt set energy policy. She is not the sole user of private jets. You hate her. TC hates her. Fine. Just keep concern about the environment out of your mouth. You dont care. Go back to bitching about Yoko Ono. Or women on Tik Tok. Or women who sing. Or women with money.