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It went to shit lmao.

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ai123 posted...

That doesn't seem to be the case here because the two parties TC is talking about don't represent each side.

One represents the extreme right, one the 'moderate' right, and there are several viable parties that represent the left.

This is the equivalent of saying you hate so-called moderate Republicans, who always end up supporting Trump anyway, more than you do mask-off MAGA. It's not saying that the left is as bad as the right.

This. They used to be on opposite sides but the Liberals abandoned all their principles in 2022. Its like Manchin and Sinema but worse.

Sweden is governed by the so called Tidavtalet since October 2022 (The Tid Agreement) which is named after Tid castle which is where the Liberals, Nationalists, Conservatives and Christian Democrats formed their coalition.

The Socialdemocrats, Green Party, Neoliberals and Far-Left are in opposition.

Bumping this political topic from earlier today which cant be accused of baiting <(:D)>

A_Good_Boy posted...

Everyone sussed out that this wasn't about American politics. It's why TC has been called out for baiting by like a dozen different people.

But if its clear that its not about US politics then how is it baiting? Makes zero sense.

ROBBAN posted...

BL, can i just make a request that in the future, you put "Sweden" somewhere in the title.

just so whenever i want to check for sweden-topics, it shows up on the search function

I usually do that but will try to always do it. Last did it earlier today.

ai123 posted...

That's the key difference. You aren't forced to support one party because the other is so fucking awful.

You have a viable alternative to both the extreme right, and those who vote with them.

Which Im very grateful for. The frustration in this case is that the Liberals could have chosen to make it 189 MPs for a broad Center-Left coalition vs 160 for a Right-wing alliance but they willingly made the decision to fuck over so many and give the Right a small majority. One of the first things our current government did was close the Department of Environmental Issues.

DrizztLink posted...

Well, yeah, I'm not sure the names of the relevant Swedish political parties have really changed much in the intervening time.

This.

And I dunno how many times Ive said Im Swedish on this board. Its even in my sig.

eggcorn posted...

If your liberal/nationalists are anything like America's, welcome to the block list.

We have 8 parties in our parliament so you can dislike both the Liberals and the Nationalists and still have other valid options. I vote for the Socialdemocrats which is a Left-leaning party.

Deteled posted...

BL is the classic Swedish poster. Indeed, it is you who are all not up with the lore.

Thank you

ai123 posted...

This is Swedish politics, I think. So the labels and party dynamics might be different from what we expect.

But it isn't uncommon to be more upset by a friend who let's you down, than an enemy who does what you expected. It doesn't mean they're the same. It just means that betrayal is sometimes hard to take.

The Liberals used to be fairly similar to big parts of the US Democrats but since 2022 they have become a doormat for the Nationalists despite literally having the power to stop those policies. The Right-wing government have the support of 176 MPs while the opposition have 173. 16 of those 176 are Liberals.

And that is exactly it. Being stabbed in the back and let down hurts more than someone you already disliked doing what they said theyd do.

A_Good_Boy posted...

Being vague for a cheap gotcha on a forum comprised primarily of Americans.

I have been posting about Swedish stuff over and over on this board since the 00s.

myusernameislame posted...

Maybe if people like you did more to dissuade liberals of the notion that nationalists are overwhelmingly popular, they might support them less?

The Liberals broke off from a functioning collaboration with the Socialdemocrats to go hang with the Nationalists. They can go fuck themselves. At least karma seems to be an actual thing since the Liberals are now polling way below the 4% threshold and will probably lose all their seats in the next election which is in September 2026.

HighSeraph posted...

TC knows what he's doing.

Hating on traitors while voting for the Socialdemocrats?

The Nationalists are at least fairly honest and open with what they wanna do and what a vote for them will mean. Which makes it possible to oppose them.

The Liberals on the other side keep lying, breaking promises and vote for Nationalist policies they said theyd oppose. Fucking slimeballs.

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She hasnt toured in ages and is very popular so the hype becomes huuuuuuge.

tremain07 posted...

And they will do nothing about it

There isnt much this panel can do. They neither have the power to impose sanctions nor an army. At least they openly say that the current Israeli leadership is responsible. Is this frustrating? Yes. But saying that they will do nothing imply that they have power to do otherwise.

A Zionist organisation had invited an IDF-soldier to speak at an event here in Stockholm. A Jewish organisation protested outside the venue because of this since they hate that Israel is conducting a genocide and trying to use their religion as an excuse to justify the ill deeds.

The Conservative group leader in Riksdagen (dunno the English term for this position but the group leader is responsible for making sure that the MPs of a party follow the party leaders wishes etc. Kinda like a Whip) posted on X that these protestors are odjur which is a quite heavy insult similar to wild beasts as well as anti-semites. Our Minister of Foreign Affairs retweeted this tweet.

They were not aware that the protestors are Jewish when tweeting however so now it has blown up in their faces in a glorious way.

https://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/kolumnister/a/Jbj968/oacceptabelt-att-ministrar-kallar-demonstranter-for-odjur

ZevLoveDOOM posted...

for a minute, my dumbass thought you were talking about a pop singer named Ariana London... >_>

Crazyman93 posted...

... I thought this topic was gonna be a midwesterner talking about soda. ._.

These two posts are both adorable.

qwerti posted...

dunno man

became a faithiest lately, but for tha love of $?

How about for the love of music lol.

boxoto posted...

good luck

ai123 posted...

Best of luck.

I absolutely hate the process of buying tickets online. Signing up for a site that won't stop crashing, getting put in queues, trying to pick seats that keep disappearing, trying more and more expensive options. Oh, and you only have 10 minutes before your session expires.

So fucking stressful.

Thank you!

And I agree whole heartedly, it is both frustrating and stressful and usually down to pure luck.

Im gonna try to get tickets to one of Arianas London shows. Those five concerts are the only ones in Europe

The entire North America leg of the tour sold out in 34 seconds when the tickets were released last week and broke the world record for most people in a digital concert queue. Taylor Swift held this record previously with her Eras Tour.

Breaking news:

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Thompson posted...

This could turn into another 1970 ESC, but for a better reason at least.

Indeed!

Not American so no.

EpicMickeyDrew posted...

Romania?

They stopped competing a few years ago for financial reasons.

These are the 37 countries that competed this year. Eurovision is always in May.
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sephiroth068 posted...

Ah I see. Wasn't aware this was a thing. Cool that I learned something new today

Always fun to learn new things! It is watched by 160-200 million people.

Cheater87 posted...

Russia was banned for invading a nation, Israel is doing a holocaust, and they are still allowed?

Russia invaded another member of the EBU so banning them was easy for the EBU for that reason alone.

TomClark posted...

On the one hand, the years where Israel have done well (like with Dana International or Netta) have been the years where their acts have stood up to prejudice and the stereotypes of their nation, and I will never be opposed to the power of music, or of Eurovision as a whole, to say "fuck what people think I should be, I love myself and I love you all." The whole point of the show each year is about coming together and about love, and about embracing the our differences and turning them into commonalities for one night.

But on the other hand, fuck anyone who isn't prepared to enter into the show with the spirit of love, and I am fully on board with any protests/boycotts that are going on, because any attempt to subvert Eurovision into anything other than a night that brings us all together absolutely goes against the spirit of the whole thing, and anyone who embraces that can go to hell

Very beautifully and so spot on. Israel is trying to use Eurovision as a way to paint a picture of support for their genocide and therefore they must go.

Tanthalas posted...

Wtf? Cline Dion won it once? I thought the singers needed to be from the country they represent.

Nope, there are no such contest wide rules. A competing country could choose to have that as a requirement to represent them however but I dont think anyone do. Some have a rule that at least one songwriter must be from their country though.

As a Swede, he represents Sverigedemokraterna which was founded by a real Nazi in 1988. The founder moved to Germany during WW2 and became an SS-officer. After the war he moved back to Sweden and somehow never got to stand trial for his crimes. Before dying he founded Sverigedemokraterna as one last act of evil.

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Xenogears15 posted...

I'm sorry, Azerbaijan is for Israel's inclusion?

It surprised me too. I guess dictators gotta stick together.

saspa posted...

France isn't part of eurovision?

They are, but havent said anything yet. Around 40 countries take part.

sephiroth068 posted...

...what is this about? Im assuming this is about FIFA but I'm not sure

It is about the Eurovision Song Contest which is one of the oldest TV-shows in the world and the very first international music competition. It has aired every year since 1956 except for 2020, but the decision to cancel the show because of the pandemic came just two months before it was gonna take place so all countries had selected their entries.

Each country sends an original song which cant be longer than 3 minutes and you cant have more than 6 people on stage.

Famous winners include ABBA, Celine Dion and Mneskin. They all rose to international fame after winning.

Spain, Ireland, Slovenia, Belgium, Iceland, Albania, Sweden, Finland and the Netherlands have expressed different levels of wanting Israel out.

Meanwhile Germany, Italy, Switzerland, Austria, Greece, Cyprus and Azerbaijan are expressing support for Israel.

A decision about whether Israel will be banned or not is supposed to come in December.

fire_bolt posted...

God, between this and the drone thing in Poland Russia getting deep in FAFO territory

Hell yeah!

Foppe posted...

Pretty sure they get ammo as well.

Also, were a country of just 10 million people yet we deliver

Thompson posted...

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He is the only member of our Government who I like and respect. Great Minister of Defense in general.

Fuck the Putin regime.

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ConfusedTorchic posted...

a sudden drop in blood sugar doesn't really happen to normal people who aren't using insulin therapy

it can, supposedly, but there are caveats such as having had bariatric surgery, or you have a tumored pancreas

I dunno if she has diabetes. Havent heard of her until yesterday.

Yeah that could have gone way worse. She was able to return and continue the conference after a little while.

The previous minister decided to retire just the other day and the new one fainted when introduced.

Thankfully Elisabeth Lann is okay. I strongly dislike our government but dont wish bodily harm on its members. She had a blood sugar drop.

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Choco posted...

i have gotten so much shit on this site whenever my english was not perfect

This.

Choco posted...

but like, why on a monday

I dunno tbh. We have elections on Sundays in Sweden. The Norwegians are a bit strange :p

ROBBAN posted...

what debate?
as far as i know that hasn't been an active debate in sweden since, i think, that midwife got fired for refusing to do her job

I interpret it as them wanting there to be an active debate. Because as you say, its not really an issue but some wanna make it one.

Sir_Will posted...

Wow, that is really dumb.

Can only be due to greed and power hunger. And she must have surrounded herself with people who dont question her.

The Conservatives would possibly not have lost this many seats to the Far-Right if it wasnt for their leader, Erna Solberg, refusing to retire. Erna has been party leader since 2004(!) and she was PM 2013-2021. The Right-wing parties got decimated in 2021 yet she stayed on. The electorate had already rejected her once after 8 years in office and didnt seem keen to vote her in for a third term this time either.

DodogamaRayBrst posted...

Have any of the rightwing parties said they wouldn't work together with the nazi party or is that awesome to them?

They seem to have been willing to work together if necessary, but they also seem to have been campaigning as four separate entities. The leader of Hyre and the leader of Fremskrittspartiet have both been repeating that they should be PM in a Right-wing government.

Zikten posted...

It is crazy that the right wingers are called Progress Party

Gotta pick a nice sounding name. Like our Far-Right is called Sverigedemokraterna (The Sweden Democrats).

monkmith posted...

wasn't it an island full youth league members for the labor party? i remember an interview years ago where it was suggested that the killing of so many future members of that political party would hamstring it.

This is correct. Both things. Seems like the Socialdemocrats have been able to rally together despite this

The Far-Right make huge gains but the traditional Conservatives lose multiple seats. Also a bad election for the agrarian Senterpartiet but the Left-leaning side win with 88 seats vs 81 for the Right-leaning side. 99% of all votes have been counted.

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I need to point out that Im Swedish, but thanks guys

We and Norway are like siblings though so politics there affect us too.

SgtBash posted...

Did Breivik's actions have any affect on the general public after what he did in Oslo & Utya?

Based on what Ive heard his horrible actions did work as a bit of a counter to very xenophobic policies for a while at least.

Will the socialdemocratic Arbeiderpartiet continue to govern (with either a coalition or structured partnership with the other Red-Green parties) or will the various Right-wing parties take power?

All polls paint a tight race.

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@FF_Redux @Foppe @Newave

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It is such a banger. And Gaga won Artist of the year at the VMAs this past evening

Im really sorry. Fuck cancer.

Does anyone else who is on the spectrum, yet somehow popular, find getting tons of messages overwhelming and so you dont really respond to anyone except close friends? And you feel bad for not responding but you also feel that it is just too much? I have like 70 messages and they are two weeks old at the most. This is not meant to be look at all my messages, I need help And at the same time Id like to meet a boyfriend. So deleting all the apps doesnt feel like a solution.

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FF_Redux posted...

Tackar! Min partner och jag har kt en tur till Helsingfors. Inget speciellt firande. r p Cinderella nu p vg hem.

Det lter vldigt mysigt. Sdana stunder kan ju vara vrda mer n ett stort firande.

Grattis p fdelsedagen! Har du ngot srskilt firande planerat?

HighSeraph posted...

Have you thought about electing a Russian asset to ruin your country instead?

Accolon posted...

That's the hot new thing to do

I dont think were cool enough to hop on that trend

DodogamaRayBrst posted...

It's kind of crazy to think that the Ukraine war has been going on for an entire election cycle soon.

Yeah, so much has happened in the same timeframe.

And the support will continue regardless of the election result next year. The Right-wing parties in power since October 2022 continued what the Left had started Feb-Oct 2022 and the Left plan to keep it up if elected in 2026.

Opposing Russia is something which goes back centuries in Sweden.

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