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When it comes to liberalism (in the US), not just leftists, what issues do young men want to see addressed?

What problems exist for men that are the fault of women and what solutions do the chuds offer than will actually fix their problems?

I mean I can sit here and list off a huge amount of issues that exist for men. The thing is, none of those problems exist because of women, nor will any of them be solved by the solutions that the right wing chuds have to offer.

The thing is, this can transfer over to these same beliefs that 'all black people are bad', 'all trans people are bad', 'all mexicans are bad'.... etc. They just fail to see how the same people they attack face this kind of shit day in and day out, and these people try to still be upstanding citizens and are still attacked for being who they are.

To me, the whole situation is the blind leading the blind here. They want to be seen as 'not all men are bad, I am a nice guy' but refuse to give those royalties to other groups because they feel they deserve it and they are in the right.

America has been strongly getting more publicly angry and defensive. It's incredibly rare to find someone who will agree it was 'their bad' when they were at fault. And the media has been feeding these people this narrative for decades. "You lost your job because THAT GUY FROM COLOMBIA stole it!" ...... not because "You may have an anger problem" or "Saying sexualizing comments to people is bad" .....

Like, I dunno. I am trans. I am pretty much ace. I cannot relate to these guys but it's always been absolutely baffling how they can't just act fucking normal around women. Oh, and on that note, accept that the 'friend zone' is bullshit, and many women would love to settle down with a guy they got to knew first. I think randomly starting dates with people you never met is absolutely the wildest thing and it definitely makes women more on edge and in danger, so women's retaliation against men overall when it comes to dating, likely stem from this.

Lets be honest, CE. All of us are too OLD for being put in meaningful positions, at least for the first series of drafts.

Also, forget draftees, some of the military might defect to Canada.

Yes there is purity test bullshit that goes on, but being disappointed in Obama for being buddy buddy with Trump isn't one of those things.

I don't see how Republicans treatment of Obama during his term is relevant. How do you not get that Obama saying Trump is a threat to democracy one moment and laughing and joking with him the next looks pretty bad? Given his choice in friends like dubya, a literal war criminal, it doesn't seem to be just a cordial meeting. Joe Biden was welcoming him back to the White House too like nothing bad is going to happen. In another topic I saw a picture of Nancy Pelosi fist bumping Mitch McConnell. How many times has he fucked over both Democrats and the American people not counting the rich?

If Democrats are supposed to be fighting Republicans for the sake of Americans they sure do act pretty friendly with the fascists. It makes it look like they're all just pals and running a big con on everyone and scamming all the non-elites. Maybe that's true. The establishment Democrats can weather whatever storm Republicans cause because they're rich so maybe they just don't actually care. Even if neither are true it's bad optics.

Democrats acting like best buds with some of the worst people in America should be called out. Same for a lot of the other bad things Democrats do. Then we have people like you saying everything is a purity test and that we should never call them out for fear of helping Republicans.

If that's how you see his statement, I don't think you actually "get it" at all. No one is arguing that Obama should have caused a scene, the argument is that he's being overly friendly given the circumstances.

You don't have a point besides never criticize Democrats ever. Excuse me and others for not wanting our politicians to pal around with criminals and war criminals who have helped ruin our country. It tells us that all the talk they said before about Trump being a threat to democracy wasn't serious.

No way he was just being nice. The man is pretty much besties with a freaking war criminal George W. Bush. Look at how the Obamas, the media, and lots of liberals have been trying to rehabilitate W's image into a sweet old man instead of a war criminal who is the cause of so many deaths of innocent people for money. They're going to do the same with Trump, watch. Speaking of W dems didn't do a thing against him and his administration either. They were parading Dick Cheney of all people during the election to. That shows its a party wide problem. Obama and Biden were saying Trump was a threat america and now they're yucking it up like it's business as usual.

And it's purity bs to call out Democrats at all period to you and a few others here.

No one is asking Obama to make a scene. We're asking him to not be making jokes and laughing with the guy. It's not hard. I saw people I didn't want to interact with at my MIL's funeral. I gave a respectful head nod and left it at that.

The real question is did the Democrats even want to stop Trump and Republicans? Biden was all friendly with Trump during the white house visit and Obama and Trump were laughing together at Carter's funeral.

inb4 the "Did you expect Biden/Obama to punch Trump in the face!?" strawman. They can be cordial without acting like everything is business as usual. it makes democrats look like liars at worst and indifferent to the damage Trump will do at best.

So what's the takeaway? Voters are dumb

If the voters are the problem, what are the Democrats doing to fix it? Because whatever they're doing clearly isn't working.

Allow me to assure you, we also blame the voters.

The thing is, this is a topic about the courts being f***-ups.

There are dozens of places to put blame, from media to legal circles to voters to politicians, but this topic is about one (1) specific choice from those options.

This seriously. The voters certainly have their fair share of the blame, but I'm tired of people acting like they're the biggest ones to blame. Our government and institutions failed us multiple times. The Biden administration sat there and did nothing to stop Trump. Same for all the various states. If they had done their jobs then the dumbass idiotic voters wouldn't have had a chance to put him back in power.

If they hadn't dragged their feet he could have been sentenced well before election day.

It is not the voters' job to assign guilt or hand out sentences. There are a lot of factors people base their votes on; even a popular criminal is still a criminal. The justice system cannot pass that responsibility off to them and wipe its hands clean

The eligibility rules have changed before; it wouldn't surprise me if Goku got in some day.

I don't think any of you guys truly appreciate how today was essential for Trump to officially become a felon. New York requires this.

Did you want him to not be a felon?

So you think republicans will eventually give up if they just lose enough times?

"oh no we lost at the ballot box I guess we can't be fascists anymore"

Guess what? Fascists don't care about winning legitimately. They'll try to take power regardless and losing a vote won't stop them

He lost the moment that debate happened. I personally believe he would have been destroyed worse than Harris was

If that means no more housing crisis, I'm all for it.

That's how little faith I have left in my country's government.

Good thing Democrats have boxed themselves in to never question an election result or dare speak ill of it least they're no better than election denying MAGAs

Why keep supporting a system that doesnt work? Why not tear the whole thing down instead?

Cain shows up in 'Lucifer' set in the present day

But yeah, it's mostly based on the passage where God says anyone who harms Cain shall face his wrath, since Cain is supposed to wander the Earth in eternal torment or something

The 'Lucifer' story arc ends with Cain begging to be killed, which Lucy does

You're saying this without taking into account that A, they're stupid, and B, the establishment Dems self sabotaged their own campaign. They say that the definition of insanity is to keep trying the same thing while expecting different results. Don't be insane. Read the room.

I was asking about progressives, though.

What policies should they abandon in order to protect vulnerable populations?

About the same as it is now. Mostly Doom, with lots of laughing at the stupidity. Which is only funny until it starts hurting American's.

The fact that we even have this being discussed doesn't bode well for our country or the direction it is headed, whether it happens or not.

Quit being pessimistic about abstainers its their right as a citizen to withhold their vote. This is a cringe topic TBH

I'm out... Not worth it...

Article five is about Non-NATO countries, can't use it against USA.

Can the president just send soldiers to fuck shit up? I thought that kind of thing needs to be approved by Congress

Would make more sense for him to annex Mexico tbh

The border wall would be so much smaller

The fact is was an albatross on only Democrats' necks while Republicans said worse shit and endorsed worse outcomes over there yet got absolutely no smoke over it is what speaks loudest to me.

Actually, scratch that. They got fucking support whether it was from people voting or choosing not to vote.

Thanatos doesn't even live in the US iirc. They've got absolutely nothing to lose by pushing dumb rhetoric to help get Republicans elected