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I don't think that I can fit it unless I replace Game of the Month with it. I would rather keep it so there are multiple ways for someone to find it in the search function, and I don't want to shorten all the games if possible
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
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How long will predictions be open? I really don't want to fill them out on my tablet today, but I can do it on my laptop tomorrow.
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
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If there was any question or comment made over the past week that I haven't addressed that you feel that I should, please let me know.
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Bump
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Bumpers
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Until you mentioned it, I didn't give his name another look beyond figuring out a way to shorten it.
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As for the Browns/Steelers trade, it is not a good trade from a value perspective, but it isn't egregiously slanted, and it makes sense for both teams. It would be perfect if the Steelers would include the Pats third round pick, but I am not going to demand it or anything.
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That being said, I read your complaints regarding the Ravens/Dolphins complaint and admit that I might have blended my two criteria for a trade together, making the inclusion of the Ravens 4th a little much. While that wasn't vetoed and thus passed peer review, I am offering you Wiki my 4th and 5th in exchange for your 5th so that the trade essentially is your first for Romaka, the two thirds, and we swap 4ths and 5ths that have a one spot difference. Just let me know.
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That's why it is dangerous to use overall ratings as the sole determination of value when it comes to a trade. Even if there's mitigating factors (namely age or years in the league), which none of the above six have, you need to understand that not all positions have the same level of talent or are utilized the same (a #3 DE is much different than a #3 QB).
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CB Leodis McKelvin (81 overall) is the 39th rated CB, which makes him an upper echelon #2 CB. CB Darrell Cruz (75 overall) is the 113th rated CB, which makes him a low-end #4 CB barely worth keeping on the roster. Here is what a similar exchange would look like with those other five positions:

Jets WR Dwayne Jarrett (39th at WR, 88 overall) for Bucs WR Chris Henry (113th at WR, 79 overall)

Jaguars LT Marcus McNeill (39th at OT, 90 overall) for Wildcats RT James Smith (113th at OT, 79 overall)

Pioneers LE Lamarr Woodley (39th at DE, 85 overall) for Wildcats LE Jay Richardson (113th at DE, 75 overall)

Falcons RG Aaron Merz (39th at G, 89 overall) for Lightning RG Drew Hodgon (113th at G, 77 overall)

Hawks ROLB Koa Misi (39th at OLB, 83 overall) for Seahawks ROLB Rico McCoy (113th at position, 73 overall)
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
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To put all of this into perspective, I hope that the information below helps those who did not see the issue with the Ravens/Patriots trade understand the context related to the current state of the league.

There are six positions that teams are required to have four of, with two starting (unless you play other positions out of position):

WR
OT
G
DE
OLB
CB

1st-32nd rated player at the position signifies being the best of the best at the position.
33rd-64th rated player signifies being a solid, starting-caliber player at the position.
65th-96th rated player signifies being a top backup at the position and will see playing time when teams run 3 WR sets (CB or WR) or when a starter needs a breather (OT, G, DE, OLB).
97th-128th rated player signifies a player who is okay to keep on the bench and isn't the worst option out there if they see the light of day if an injury goes down.
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DEs
The average DE has slightly risen, but there's been a sharp decline in elite players at the position. They tend to age poorly once they hit their mid-30s, and a large chunk of the top players at the position are of that age.


DTs
The average DT has relatively stayed the same, but they have started to go on the decline as they have the the highest-average age for a starter on the defense. Said players have showed signs of aging.


OLBs
The average OLB has decreased as have the amount of elite talents at the position. This is largely due to users who favor the run. For whatever reason, the game targets OLBs as the the main victims when their team gives up a lot of rushing yards. Also working against them is OLB is the position that sees the fewest amount of rookies, 2nd, or 3rd year players seeing significant playing time. Most that do are part of poor defenses, so they fail to develop.


MLBs
MLBs have followed a similar trend as OLBs but for different reasons. 95% of the league runs a 4-3 defense, so there are fewer opportunities for younger MLBs to play. Lots of high-end talent has left the league over the years, so time will tell if the younger players will develop now that there are fewer obstacles.


CBs
No position has seen a sharper decline in talent than the CB. This is largely due to users favoring the pass (though like I said, the game favors the run and the teams that do tend to be more successful), and CBs are the first ones hit when a team gives up lots of passing yards.


FSs
The average FS has risen, but there are fewer elite talents at the position. They do not light up the stat sheet, so they rely on being part of good defenses to develop.


SSs
The average SS has risen much more than any other defensive position. This is due to accumulating high stat figures and not being as susceptible to ratings decreases as other defensive positions.


Ks/Ps
The average player at each position has significantly increased because these are the only two positions where all you have to do is show up and you can reach 80 even if you had a bad season or two. Now, you have to earn your way up to 90s, but kickers and punters of 2005 are not like the kickers and punters of today. Today, you are considered garbage if you don't hit 80% of your FGs. In B8NFLL, the average kicker probably hits 75-79% of their FGs. Punters now routinely hit 45+ yards per punt, but in B8NFLL, only the top punters each year will clear the mark.
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
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It has also come to my attention that in addition to many users not being intimately familiar with their team, I might be the only who has paid attention to shifts of the league. The beauty of this project is that is constantly being shaped by the actions of users and the AI. I am always aware of that because I have to be, but everyone else is only required to have basic knowledge of their team (though you could argue that also isn't required).

Seeing everyone not understand the current state of the league at any given moment falls on me, and I am sorry that I haven't been a good commissioner. While that gap can never be fully bridged, I hope to give everyone an idea of how things have changed by looking at it from a position-to-position basis.

A word of note is that talent constantly fluctuates due to talent leaving via retirement, overall rating changes (aging, experience, good play, poor play, etc...), and talent incoming via the draft. The talent incoming is usually lower than the talent retiring, but that new talent, depending on playing opportunities, can rise to the talent that left via retirement within 2-3 seasons.


QBs
The average QB in the league has significantly risen over the years. There is more elite talent (I consider 90+ to be elite talent) at the position than there was in the inaugural season. It used to be common for someone's backup to be in the 70s and their third stringer as low as the 60s. Now, I believe that there's only one QB who is in the 60s, and most teams have an 80+ backup and a third stringer in the mid-to-upper 70s.


HBs
The game favors the run game (as people could probably tell by the stats of their QBs), and the inaugural season showed why. There were a lot of elite talent at the position. It was the position that probably had the highest percentage of starting players being 90+. Now, there's less elite talent at the position, but the average HB has significantly risen. Some teams have 3+ players at the position listed at 80+. This is largely due to some strong draft classes and HB being the unhealthiest position in the league.


FBs
FBs have significantly risen since the beginning, but fewer are specialized. Most used to be pure offense or pure blocking. Now the majority in the league are hybrid players who can do both.


WRs
Much like HBs, the average WR has seen a sharp risen, but there are fewer elite talents. Most of the elite talents that remain are on the wrong side of 30.


TEs
TEs have been on the decline over the years, which isn't unexpected since TEs do not have the gaudy stats they do in real life and backups rarely get playing time due to TEs being one of healthiest positions over the duration of the league. Most TEs that have entered the league since the beginning have little in the way of blocking skills.


OTs
The average OT has seen a significant rise, but the average starting OT is roughly the same, if not a slight decline from those in the inaugural season.


Gs
Gs have roughly stayed the same, but as late, an usually high amount of Gs do not see regular playing time as more and more teams start a backup OT at one or even both of the starting G positions.


Cs
No position on the offense has seen as much of a decline as the C. They deal with the same issues as Gs (OTs playing there), but they also post less gaudy stats, so they do not develop as swiftly as their other OL brethren. Most teams to used have multiple 80+ players at the position. Now, that is a rarity, and without looking at the spreadsheet, I can only think of the Raiders who do.
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
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The importance of depth comes into play when someone goes down via injury. Depending on how you ordered your depth chart though, your rating in any area might go up or down once an injury happens.

Each person values some positions over others, but they all make a major impact on your team. I have gone on record as saying that individual performance of players is largely luck based (especially for special teams), but I feel like that may have led people to believe that in turn the overall ratings for players do not matter as much because this is why they do.

If someone with a 95 kicker replaces him with an 80 kicker, then their special teams will go down significantly and their overall rating might go down a full point.

When I did playtesting for this several years ago, my feeling was that your team rating is about 40% offense, 40% defense, and 20% special teams.

For people who do not have experience with this aspect of sports games or never had any of this cross their mind, do not panic because even though you might be at a major disadvantage when it comes to that, I'd say that having a plan when it comes to team building and coming up with coaching strategies (you may not understand that now Tangicide, but you will when the time comes) that best suit your team can go a long way to mitigating any deficiencies your team may have.

At the beginning of the league, we had a random fantasy draft that resulted in every team being within two points in team rating of each other. After seven seasons, the largest difference last season was seven points (the worst being a team that was absolutely gutted after the first season) and about 80% of the league was still within two points of each other. I'd say that this has been a success!

Had I gone with the original teams that Madden 06 had, we'd have about four teams in the mid 90s and teams like the Browns and 49ers below 70.
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
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Time for a crash course on B8NFLL!

B8NFLL uses Madden 06, which I hope everyone has known by now since I plaster it in the signup topics that you all joined via! I do not play the games using AI opponents, but I sim the results. When they sim games, they use an algorithm to determine the winner of each game. While that algorithm is proprietary information of EA and Tiburon, it is not unreasonable to expect that the input that is given the most weight is the difference in quality of the teams (aka team ratings).

Your team rating is based on three sub-ratings: your offense, your defense, and your special teams. However, depth has no impact on team ratings. Team ratings at any given moment are based on the active, starting players for a team. That is why I only do the team power rankings at the beginning of the preseason since everyone is healthy. That also means your team rating is based on 24 or 25 players:

Offense
QB
HB
FB
WR
WR
TE
LT
LG
C
RG
RT

Defense
LE
DT
DT (if you run a 4-3 defense)
RE
LOLB
MLB
MLB (if you run a 3-4 defense)
ROLB
CB
CB
FS
SS

Special Teams
K
P
KR/PR (could very well be someone from above)
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
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stuntman, you mentioned what seems like a long time ago (was likely less than a week), about giving me a preview of some new sheet that would help people who do not have the time and/or desire to be intimately familiar with their team have information conveniently centralized. You can go ahead and give me that preview at your earliest convenience, but I do want to point out that several sheets undergo lots of column changes in case that affects formulas.
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ShatteredElysium posted...

Do we do draft then free agency? For some reason I thought it was the other way around which makes no sense but isn't that how the NFL does it in real life?

Someone else asked me this question, but back when the game came out (2005), the draft was before free agency. In what I assume was a new collective bargaining agreement since, free agency came before the draft.
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
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I am 14 posts behind and have a lot of ground to cover. I hope to get through everything today.
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
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Pros
1. I really like the potential of this seance. Unless there's multiple victims, I guess that it will only be a one-time thing for cases, but I like how it flexes my brain (though it only has one solution despite there being 5+ on the first one).
2. Rayfa's stare
3. It is fun to laugh at Khura'in
4. Behind the series of jokes, the judge's character arc was interesting and well-done

Cons
1. No interesting, truly new characters thus far
2. Overarching storyline doesn't fill me with any confidence towards it quality
3. Disappointing logic and critical thinking were need to prop up and prolong the case
4. As was the case with the debut of 3D models in Dual Destinies, characters are less and less defined by actual character and more by gimmicks and visual gags.
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
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And the lyrics for the Song of Ceremony are useful in court. I think that covers all of the evidence.

Man, they really want to one-up themselves each time a culprit is proven to be the guilty party. I wish him smashing his speakers caused debris to hit members of the gallery.

DC Act was implemented 23 years ago.

Man, this is the worst version of "We Won the Case!" It doesn't invoke a sense of accomplishment.

Oh god, Defiant Dragons? I am really not looking forward to the overarching storyline. Nothing topped DL-6, but I also liked Apollo Justice's to a degree, and the lack of one in Justice for All was refreshing.

There's that name Dhurke again. He leads the Defiant Dragons.

A new character appears, Inga. He is the Minister of Justice for Khura'in and sounds and carries himself like a mobster/Fortune 500 executive. How joyous.

Ominous and wholly uninteresting final cutscene.

End of Episode 1
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Are we really sure that the treasure box was forcibly opened opened? Andis has the only key and the orb was apparently gone prior to Rohl dying based on what Rohl asked Ahlbi.

I could be wrong, but I am under the impression that because Rohl's bloody handprint is on the treasure box, something else was the murder weapon. Looking at the evidence, I see that Andis was playing a different instrument during the seance than he has in court. Now I play the waiting game to present that in court.

Well that didn't take long. If Andis really did burn it, then all that you have to do is get another one of those instruments and compare it to the wound. Then again, the police has been shown to be pretty damn incompetent.

Andis called his key the Mitamah when I thought it was supposed to be a Magatama. Dun dun dun...
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"Yeah, well, lawyers are crap"
- Sick retort Andis!

This gallery is so spineless. Andis made fun of the holy music, and they are cheering him on.

In what religion do you go to hell because someone else fabricated a lie about you? That sounds terrifying!

Andis was standing next to the breaker when the power went out. I'm glad to get another easy puzzle to solve after failing to click on a correct location.

After being utterly confused for awhile with bizarre questions and reactions, I finally realized that it wasn't Andis that Phoenix was claiming to having the treasure box but Mr. Rohl. That would explain why he was acting funny with Ahlbi. I do wonder if this means he was acting alone or not.
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He just moved to the country six months ago and became head monk. The jokes write themselves.

Uh, on what basis Phoenix do you say that Andis had an ulterior motive for coming to the country. I mean, you are probably right since you randomly put that thought into the heads of the players, but that just came out of the blue.

It only took three attempts to get Andis' location correct when he allegedly saw Ahlbi!

Phoenix is not pulling any punches calling Andis a liar liar, pants on fire. I like the fiery (no pun intended) side of the Phoenix!

I don't recall the last time that an about-face from the guilty party was funny or not-annoying. Andis did not reserve the trend. That being said, perhaps Andis should be worshiped for summoning speakers out of thin air.
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The wound on Mr. Rohl is as clear as day on the back of his head, so duh it was likely attacked from behind.

We have a new witness and it's the guy from the video. That means this has to be the beginning of the end for the case. He has given one line of dialog and I already hate him. Can ya dig?

His guitar strumming animation goes on loop. I should have just let him do that until he dropped dead from exhaustion.

He was the treasure's keeper? I am imagining this as an episode of your run-of-the-mill police procedural and have incompetent the investigation must have been. HE HAS THE ONLY KEY? Oh my god, I could probably make sergeant immediately if I went to this country today.

The "chamber" is the witnesses' (I'm going to call him Andis), and all the rooms have windows. Ah, the notice finally gets some use as he couldn't have seen Ahlbi from his room.
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Treasure box glows in the dark. Will remember.

I wonder what makes the set of stairs in question the "Great Stairs."

The way that they are describing the encounter that Mr. Rohl and Ahlbi had (Rohl covering a lot of his face, acting weird), I am wondering if it really was Mr. Rohl.

Mr. Rohl already knowing that the orb is a bit odd given how little we currently know.

Ahlbi has a fucking dog in his bag and his face looks like he was hit by a bag of frozen peas, not the flap of a knapsack. That dog better not become a recurring character...ugh he can "interpret" dog. Kill me.
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"I guess that she's still a teenager after all"
- Phoenix on Rayfa

Yes, because the average teenager rambles on about people suffering an agonizing eternity in their version of hell while wearing a smirk and laughing uncontrollably.

The idea of the guard stopping Ahlbi because he knew that Ahlbi was going to steal the treasure is beyond ridiculous. Besides the obvious issues from such line of thinking, the event had to have taken place on the stairs outside of the chamber and I recall seeing a storage room adjacent to the treasure room!

"Allow me to explaaaaaaaaain!"
- Ahlbi

I was laughing so hard imagining how that would sound. I am so bummed that it wasn't voiced.
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I hope to get around the filling out a bracket today
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Bumpers
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Bump
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Update soon
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I have never even considered what my favorite year in gaming is. That would take a long time compiling favorite games and their years for someone who hasn't actively thought of that.
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Yep, same thing happened to me.
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Monthly Progress
Sproggiwood - KCF
The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild -
Ys Origin -

Nominations
KCF - Dropsy, Tomb Raider (2013), Unravel, Wolfenstein: The New Order
Nee - Star Fox
prof - Persona 5

Drawing will be held on Saturday, March 25th
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It worked. Thanks Digi!
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I hope that being late didn't cost anyone!
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Set 13
+3 KCF
+2 Ngamer
+1 PUN

Set 14
+3 mudders
+2 LotM
+1 pjb

Ngamer vs Naye and murders vs TUM were brutal
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The Royal Tenenbaums
There Will Be Blood
L.A. Confidential
Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid
The Prestige

Maybe others
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Yeah, I suck hard. I haven't even checked the league page since I did my bracket, but I know that it sucks.
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Will post update soon
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Bumpers
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I assume that my bracket is busted, but it's worth it to see XU salvage such an up and down season
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Travel bump
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Bump for a better time
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I should write this down
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Bump
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Travel bump
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Might as well bump this
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You don't have to shelve it. I have caught up reading and am going through stuff in the game. Nobody mentioned anything about Terrence Newman, and I really, really hope that you consider it or a revision. If not, I am leaning toward allowing this as a one-time exception.

Everything tells me, which includes hundreds, possibly thousands, of hours of experience with the game and B8NFLL that this is a terrible deal.

It appears that there are a lot of misconceptions about stuff that has recently transpired and need to give everyone a crash course on Madden 06 and B8NFLL. Once I have the opportunity on Monday or Tuesday.

I am not and have never been angry with anyone about B8NFLL, so believe me that I was not personally attacking anyone.
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Unfortunately, I will be out of town and will only have my phone.
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I should play over the weekend, but I won't be updating until Monday. I can bump this topic if needed.
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