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TopicSurvivor/Big Brother/TAR Summer Topic 2: I was Tempted to make this...
Peridiam
07/29/17 2:00:03 AM
#133
oh man watching the live feeds late at night

cody & jess having a raw moment, cody basically in tears saying he wants to stop being around jess cause he's tanking her game, he won't make her happy. PITY PARTY TIME.

and jess is all like FUCK YOU CODY and ignores his every word

i fucking hate both of these people here

this is the bane of everything

two melodramatic sapheads with no understanding of BB and are totally blinded by ass

tho tbf i guess it's like a better version of brendon & rachel. i guess?

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TopicThese are the seven foreign countries I have been to.
Peridiam
07/29/17 1:23:34 AM
#5
I've already been to Germany and Ireland.

Desire to visit:
1. Japan
2. South Korea
3. Mexico
4. Kuwait
5. Iraq

Ireland is incredibly beautiful though and I highly recommend it.
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TopicSo how is Pyre
Peridiam
07/27/17 11:19:28 PM
#18
I really like it and unlike a lot of recent games I've been wanting to pick it up again the moment I stop playing. I fear I'm going to beat it!

I can also see why it wouldn't be for everyone. I'm not big into text adventures but this one is working for me. I like the Rites (though I never feel very good at them).

Ti'zo is great. Same with Sir Gilman.
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TopicSurvivor/Big Brother/TAR Summer Topic 2: I was Tempted to make this...
Peridiam
07/27/17 9:55:14 PM
#118
TopicHow do you pronounce it?
Peridiam
07/27/17 10:28:47 AM
#13
I say 'heel-lee-in'.

Although I'm guessing it's 'high-lee-in'.
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TopicMy student asked me out today.
Peridiam
07/26/17 11:07:38 PM
#17
Is the first post just worded weirdly? I'm trying to make sense of it without it getting weird.

Otherwise... wut
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TopicSo how is Pyre
Peridiam
07/26/17 1:14:36 PM
#8
I've got 3 hours in now.

Really enjoying it.
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TopicI feel like I'm having the worst 48 hours...
Peridiam
07/25/17 4:36:11 PM
#6
didn't get videogame
mozzy bites
athlete is hurt

SSD failure may be the worst. But even then...
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Topicanyone know how pokemon go fest went?
Peridiam
07/25/17 4:23:05 PM
#5
TopicI copy Johnbob and rank every TV Series I've ever seen
Peridiam
07/25/17 10:45:31 AM
#67
Ah, yeah, definitely understandable. BB9 was shoehorned thanks to the writers strike of 2008. And it was a terrible season for many reasons.
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TopicI copy Johnbob and rank every TV Series I've ever seen
Peridiam
07/25/17 10:40:20 AM
#65
When it comes to Big Brother, you said that the year they had two seasons, one of them sucked. Were you talking about last year with Big Brother: OTT?

Cause they also did BB9 & BB10 in the same year and BB10 is one of the best seasons (whereas BB9, which came before it, is one of the worst).

Just curious which seasons you meant.
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TopicSo is Dunkirk actually good or just critic bait?
Peridiam
07/24/17 2:10:56 PM
#97
LtM, could you go into detail on why you think Boyhood 'sucks' and is 'overrated trash'?
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TopicSo, Tale of the Rays is out.
Peridiam
07/24/17 10:54:14 AM
#4
TopicSurvivor/Big Brother/TAR Summer Topic 2: I was Tempted to make this...
Peridiam
07/23/17 8:24:09 PM
#83
TopicI copy Johnbob and rank every TV Series I've ever seen
Peridiam
07/22/17 4:58:15 PM
#22
I'm a huge fan of Survivor and Big Brother and even I can't stomach reality TV. Almost all of it is garbage.
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TopicSurvivor/Big Brother/TAR Summer Topic 2: I was Tempted to make this...
Peridiam
07/22/17 12:32:09 AM
#72
For those interested in knowing...

HoH: ......Jessica......
Noms: ......Josh/Ramses......
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TopicSurvivor/Big Brother/TAR Summer Topic 2: I was Tempted to make this...
Peridiam
07/21/17 1:54:22 AM
#56
I'll be able to get the feeds come Monday. Mildly excited. I've been using an unofficial livestream this whole time since CBS hates international (and Puerto Rico). :(
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TopicSurvivor/Big Brother/TAR Summer Topic 2: I was Tempted to make this...
Peridiam
07/20/17 10:07:08 PM
#49
Cameron was likable but a bit cringe. Seemed really nervous, overreacting.
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TopicSurvivor/Big Brother/TAR Summer Topic 2: I was Tempted to make this...
Peridiam
07/20/17 9:42:46 PM
#43
Squirrelgate posted...
is it bad that Jessica might be my favorite in this cast? She's turned into a really complex character imo.

Not at all.
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TopicSurvivor/Big Brother/TAR Summer Topic 2: I was Tempted to make this...
Peridiam
07/20/17 9:14:12 PM
#37
TopicSurvivor/Big Brother/TAR Summer Topic 2: I was Tempted to make this...
Peridiam
07/20/17 9:12:33 PM
#36
TopicTop 5 Worst Rigjobs in the History of Big Brother US
Peridiam
07/20/17 1:44:46 PM
#126
TopicThe new Layton game is releasing tomorrow
Peridiam
07/20/17 1:29:11 PM
#13
Do the puzzles get better in the later games? About the same? I'm about 75% through Curious Village.
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TopicThe new Layton game is releasing tomorrow
Peridiam
07/20/17 12:12:01 PM
#9
TopicTrails of Cold Steel PC release date: August 2nd.
Peridiam
07/19/17 7:33:21 PM
#15
I beat it on vita and that was enough. I liked TOCS but I'd go insane playing it a second time.
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TopicOn my way to Belize! Might have internet on the plane so AMA.
Peridiam
07/19/17 1:42:43 PM
#21
i actually lived in south yorkshire for about a year and have never heard the term either, but i could probably ask my wife and i'm sure she's heard of it (she's english from the west midlands).

might be a regional term.
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TopicOn my way to Belize! Might have internet on the plane so AMA.
Peridiam
07/19/17 1:38:11 PM
#19
LeonhartFour posted...
wait when did we start calling shots "jabs"

I'm surprised you didn't know this, but user Hardcore_Adult is distinctly English.

i think every other post of his reads 'not american' to me

or at least once you know he's not american it's pretty noticeable
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TopicOn my way to Belize! Might have internet on the plane so AMA.
Peridiam
07/19/17 1:10:17 PM
#12
MZero11 posted...
CaptainOfCrush posted...
Meeting my gf there, but things are hairy. My flight is off the ground now, but I will have, at best, 25 minutes to make the second flight to Belize


you mean your flight leaves 25 minutes after arrival? I think you usually need to be at least 1 hour early for international flights >_>

Only when you're first arriving at an airport. Connecting flights you don't need to arrive that early, but then it also depends on the airport.

If you're connecting internationally in, say, Heathrow, and you only have 25 minutes, you're fucked. Not sure about Houston though, never been.
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TopicTop 5 Worst Rigjobs in the History of Big Brother US
Peridiam
07/19/17 12:54:22 PM
#125
For reference, here's the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6EmG_SykQg&list=PLiiZ5cO97suSyYLyGElDwY8aFr2L-Jj-V&index=31

Minute 28:00, the comp starts.

Question 1 doesn't seem fishy, Dick gets it right.
Question 2 Dick pauses and then says the same as Zach.
Question 3 doesn't seem fishy, both say the same answer.
Question 4 seems odd, Zach says A right away, Dick pauses, kinda looks to the side (where the mirror was), and then switches his answer to A, matching Zach.
Question 5 is also a little strange. Dick asks to have an answer repeated, then turns his head to the direction of the mirror, Zach immediately says A, Dick then says A too.
Question 6... same thing. Zach answers right away, Dick pauses, switches cards, and answers the same as Zach.

Basically after question 1 Dick can just answer the exact same as Zach and he wins. And he does exactly that the entire competition.

That said it might just be confirmation bias of what we already know, that the producers want a Donato to win. So we interpret Dick's behavior as more of the same, when it's very possible that he was just thinking about the answer and turned his head in the same direction each time.

There's no conclusive evidence to damn him (or the producers) here, and the case to be made is pretty flimsy - maybe he could see, maybe he couldn't - so I'm not going down that rabbit hole.
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TopicTop 5 Worst Rigjobs in the History of Big Brother US
Peridiam
07/19/17 12:36:34 PM
#124
Great_Paul posted...
TomNook posted...
All this talk of BB8's rigging, and no mention of the Dick/Zach challenge with the mirror?


What's the story behind that one?

At part 3 of the final HoH in BB8, it was Dick vs. Zach. Same competition as every other part 3 of the final HoH - answer 'A' or 'B' questions based on the jury.

Dick beat Zach but for some reason Dick would always take a bit of time to answer the questions asked. There was a case made against him that he was using a mirror in the living room and was able to see Zach's answer, giving him a major unfair advantage. If he knew what Zach was answering, he could either say the same answer so neither of them would take a lead, or if he felt like he knew Zach likely had the wrong answer he could answer differently.

I'm not sure how much I buy it. It's certainly possible, I don't rule it out, but I don't think there's enough compelling, clear cut evidence to say it definitely happened. I wouldn't be surprised if it did happen though - had Zach won part 3, he'd win BB8, thwarting the season-long Donato narrative the producers wanted.
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TopicTop 5 Worst Rigjobs in the History of Big Brother US
Peridiam
07/19/17 9:35:02 AM
#122
TomNook posted...
All this talk of BB8's rigging, and no mention of the Dick/Zach challenge with the mirror?

I've never found that moment to be clear cut. I understand what it's saying but I dunno, I'd need more convincing.
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TopicTop 5 Worst Rigjobs in the History of Big Brother US
Peridiam
07/18/17 5:13:03 PM
#106
Caelus how do you feel knowing Dick has a larger asterisk on his win than Rachel.

How do you handle that reality?
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TopicHow many of Game Informer's E3 Hot 50 are you looking forward to playing?
Peridiam
07/18/17 10:33:17 AM
#13
Games I'll check out:
47. Kingdom Come: Deliverance
26. Battlechasers: Nightwar

Games I'll likely buy:
35. Xenoblade Chronicles 2
14. Middle-earth: Shadow of War
1. Super Mario Odyssey
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TopicLet's talk about cheating in a relationship
Peridiam
07/18/17 9:37:39 AM
#49
Poka, I feel like PR has a different culture than most of the US. People here are very laid back. More so than anywhere I've ever lived. Maybe that explains where you're coming from?

I once had a girlfriend make out with another guy. Her friend was sleeping over and wanted to make out with this guy down the street, so they visited his place and they all got frisky. She might've done more with him, I wouldn't be surprised. She was incredibly regretful once I found it (the guy ratted them all out since he was dating my sisters best friend). What a mess that all was.

I broke up with her the next day.
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TopicLet's talk about cheating in a relationship
Peridiam
07/18/17 9:27:52 AM
#48
MariaTaylor posted...
Pokalicious posted...
Would you cheat on your partner?


no

Pokalicious posted...
Have you done it before?


no

Pokalicious posted...
What are your thoughts on the subject?


don't do it

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TopicTop 5 Worst Rigjobs in the History of Big Brother US
Peridiam
07/18/17 2:12:36 AM
#101
GTM posted...
I would sacrifice a coherent narrative for a balanced edit

As far as BB goes, I would take a balanced edit every day of the week over a coherent narrative. It just makes sense given BB is live and anything could happen at any time as far as power shifts.

With Survivor, I'm actually quite OK with a coherent narrative given the show isn't live. I'd be fine with either, or maybe even both!
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TopicTop 5 Worst Rigjobs in the History of Big Brother US
Peridiam
07/18/17 1:57:19 AM
#100
Xuxon posted...
i didn't even realize he literally wasn't allowed to. i thought he was allowed to disobey America's wishes, it just wouldn't get him anything. the way i remembered it, America wanted to target one of the players already on the block so i thought that was why he didn't use it but i must be remembering wrong.

Technically Eric didn't have to obey who to push for nomination, though I'm sure production would loathe him for that. He was there to be their proxy so I don't think he'd ever disobey outright - especially early in the season. The task was set on him getting that person nominated, so even if he didn't do a thing and that person was still nominated, I believe he'd complete the task. Although I don't think that ever happened.

The HoH/veto noms (if Eric won HoH/veto) were never made clear, which probably was deliberate on productions side in the event they wanted to force Eric to do their bidding. Which coincidentally never happened until very late in the season.

I also made a small mistake, he had to complete 5 tasks to get $10k, not 3.

Kain66 posted...
Peridiam posted...
Thank you guys for reading this topic. I honestly started it expecting just 5 short posts with small snippets about each rigjob, but seeing all of you pipe in kinda encouraged me to give it more of an effort.


I would like more synopsis/ranking on past BB seasons (100% serious post)

This was a great read

Ha, that's a way bigger task. Maybe a synopsis would work, though my thoughts on seasons 3-5 aren't as fleshed out. If there was ever a season I'd rewatch, it'd be BB3.
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TopicTop 5 Worst Rigjobs in the History of Big Brother US
Peridiam
07/18/17 1:16:29 AM
#94
Thank you guys for reading this topic. I honestly started it expecting just 5 short posts with small snippets about each rigjob, but seeing all of you pipe in kinda encouraged me to give it more of an effort.
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TopicTop 5 Worst Rigjobs in the History of Big Brother US
Peridiam
07/18/17 12:47:25 AM
#87
MariaTaylor posted...
Peridiam posted...
Dick was loud and rude and would make derogatory remarks, and just about all of the worst comments were kept out of the edit. Now why would they do that?


question about stuff like this

... how exactly do you know about it?

I mean you only see what they air on TV right? are you saying that stuff happened off camera and it wasn't shown on TV, but also that you somehow know about it? how?

Live feeds. There are near 24/7 live feeds inside the house, which you can watch the houseguests do just about everything (except competitions) all season long.

It's often pretty boring, but sometimes it's exciting.
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TopicTop 5 Worst Rigjobs in the History of Big Brother US
Peridiam
07/18/17 12:45:15 AM
#84
TopicTop 5 Worst Rigjobs in the History of Big Brother US
Peridiam
07/18/17 12:32:31 AM
#81
The edit never makes it clear why he doesn't use the veto. Because there's no good reason. Not even production has a good reason. The reason they give makes no sense. The reasons Eric give make no sense. Eric continually says he wanted to win the veto to do what Jessica wants - he tells this to everyone in the house, as well as America - both on the feeds and in the episode.

Jessica wants the veto to be used.

Eric does too.

But Eric doesn't use the veto.

Production is happy, America sighs in relief.

Jessica gets voted out the next week.

Eric goes right after that.

Dick & Daniele make the final two, where AmERICa votes for Dick to win.

No matter what, though, the casual audience has won.

The producers have won.

But at least we have BB19, right?
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TopicTop 5 Worst Rigjobs in the History of Big Brother US
Peridiam
07/18/17 12:30:07 AM
#80
The real bullshit happens in Week 8. And unlike production interference in the diary room, this instant is concrete and easy for anyone to see through.

Up until Week 8, Eric has yet to win an HoH or a veto. He's never held direct power through nominations or using the veto on nominees. But in Week 8 he wins the veto and badly wants to use it to take out Daniele Donato. It's in his best interest to do it, but of course it's not in productions best interest to have AMERICA'S PLAYER take out one of the houseguests that production is banking their whole season-long narrative on.

Eric's showmance is the HoH in Week 8 -- and she too badly wants to nominate Daniele. So Eric plans to use the veto and Jessica, his showmance, is going to put Daniele up as a replacement. They also had control of the votes so Daniele was 100% going to get evicted. Even though production would likely have Eric vote out Zach in the event that Daniele was put up, the vote would be tied 2-2 and Jessica would break the tie with Daniele leaving.

So Eric wins the veto, the plan is in place, and then -- I SHIT YOU NOT -- production doesn't let Eric use the veto. Straight up. He goes into the diary room with a plan, and later leaves the diary room with a completely different, counter-intuitive plan to save Daniele. All week Eric wanted to take out Daniele, he even admits it post-show, but production didn't let him use the veto. Wanna know why? They said that "There wasn't enough time for America to vote on whether Eric should use the veto." LOL. Here's the problem: there was NEVER going to be enough time unless it was in productions best interest to let Eric use it. The format of the show had the veto competition and the veto ceremony exist in the same episode (like usual), so WHEN WOULD THERE EVER BE TIME FOR AMERICA TO VOTE?

It makes no sense.

The bullshit is incredibly transparent.

There isn't even any possibility of this being anything other than bullshit.

Are we supposed to believe that production was just never going to let Eric do anything ever if he won the veto? What about the HoH for that matter? Based on the episode structure, HOW WOULD ANY OF THIS MADE ANY SENSE? America can only vote after the episode where the HoH is crowned and the nominees are in place. But if Eric wins HoH, how could America vote for who he should nominate? What about using the veto? Are you telling me production never once thought of this predicament? I would assume that due to the episode schedule it'd just be inherent that Eric would be able to do what he wants in those moments. I mean, why not? If he wins HoH then it'd have to happen that way.

But Eric never won HoH or veto up to this point so the rules were never made clear. And truth be told, I don't think Eric knew the rules about this either, because he purposefully won the veto in Week 8 to enact his plan to evict Daniele, when in fact he could have easily let his alliance win it instead, but willingly chose to win it himself. The Week 8 veto was OTEV. Dick didn't play, and Daniele was eliminated 3rd. It was between him, Zach, and Amber (both were the nominees). All Eric had to do was throw the comp and Daniele is voted out. But he won the comp, and he even said IN THE EDIT ITSELF that he was glad he won because he could stand up for Jessica and follow through with their intentions (to take out Daniele). EVERYONE in the house was on board with this plan. Post-veto you can see in the episode that Jessica WANTS DANIELE OUT SO BAD. And Eric agrees! But production told him no. He says "...I can see the dilemma... trust me..." in the episode, and the subtext is so loud once you actually know the dilemma he's faced with.

Here's the entire episode for reference, of which you can fast forward around to get an understanding: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsyYxrQTdj0&index=24&list=PLiiZ5cO97suSyYLyGElDwY8aFr2L-Jj-V

It's all there.
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TopicTop 5 Worst Rigjobs in the History of Big Brother US
Peridiam
07/18/17 12:25:31 AM
#79
Combine this strong story with the America's Player twist in Eric, and suddenly you have a recipe to keep your two stars of the season around as long as possible. Make sure the audience wants them to succeed and they'll never be targeted by the twist. And holy shit did it pay off in spades.

While Dick was divisive and Daniele was a major brat, the edit still pulled out every punch to keep them at the center of the story and in a likable light. Comparing this to BB13, it's just the same as how the edit focused heavily on the returning players while ignoring all of the newbies. Nobody gave a shit about any of the newbies in BB13 because the main story was on JeJo and Brenchel vs. Daniele Donato (amusingly enough) and her minions. Production would never let a newbie win and as you can tell from rigjob #3, they would go to every possible avenue of interference to ensure their stars were still in the game. Production banked heavily on the veteran players narrative (which under normal circumstances is a terrible idea) and ultimately got pretty lucky given how inept the vets were.

In BB8 they had a simpler task in only making the audience care about Dick & Daniele. Obviously every player would have fans to some capacity, but the edit was heavily slanted one way. Unlike in BB13 where there was only 1 America vote (which got Brendon back in the game), in BB8 there were three America votes... each week. Two of which directly influenced the game. You wanna talk about the ultimate rigjob of rigjobs? Holy fuck. Like holy fuck on a lubed up grail, this is the most subtle, tender, long-haul fuck production has ever given its audience. Production has never respected the audience and in BB8 it was at its worst.

So Dick & Daniele are the production favorites and everyone knows it. Eric is given tasks that never target the Donatos on any game level whatsoever all season. Eric lasts all the way until the final 5 and not once is put into a position where he must go against the Donatos, despite the fact that many times he wants to, he pleads on the live feeds to have America let him, for his sake and his alliances sake (and really, for our sake). It never matters. Production doesn't listen. And so America doesn't hear him.

Let's talk more detailed incidences beyond just 'the edit as a whole' and 'the inherent flaws of the twist'. There are a ton of incidents but perhaps none are bigger than in Week 5 and Week 8. In Week 5 Eric is put on the block as a replacement nominee against Kail. Daniele, the HoH, wants Eric voted out. In fact, most of the house wants Eric voted out. Of the 7 votes available, right after Eric was put on the block, 6 of those were going to be voting to evict him. But of course production couldn't lose their proxy pet so early or so easily, which meant they had to work overtime in the diary room. And they did. There were whispers throughout the house of production being very not subtle with their questioning, you could find literally everyone talking about it in some capacity. There's a few videos on YouTube with live feed footage but it's not great quality. Regardless, production (& Eric) manage to convince Eric's alliance to keep him in the game over Kail, and the vote falls 4-3 in favor of Eric.

Production interference in the diary room isn't exactly a revelation but it's never been more present than in BB8. They ask leading questions, they tip certain people off to happenings, they edge you in certain directions to sway your vote. They ultimately manipulate your line of thinking. Or in Eric's case, they just tell him what he has to do, and then he goes about the house doing his best to follow through on their demands (thanks to 'America', of course).
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TopicTop 5 Worst Rigjobs in the History of Big Brother US
Peridiam
07/18/17 12:25:25 AM
#78
Inviso posted...
If it's the overarching rigging, then the entirety of BB8.

If it's one specific instance, then "BB won't allow Eric to use the veto at the final 7 of BB8."

ding ding ding

Rigjob #1: Big Brother 8, Week 1-9 (or specifically: Week 8)

Synopsis: The big twist of the season is that one player -- a guy named Eric -- is "America's Player", and each week he's given 3 tasks established by production that he must complete (on behalf of 'America'). America votes each week who this guy will push to nominate, maybe even will nominate (if HoH), maybe use the veto on, vote to evict, and then other random shenanigans (like give someone the silent treatment for 24 hours). The inherent problem with this is that production basically can do whatever they want via Eric as a proxy, at their own discretion, all within the confines of the diary room. Eric has no control of his tasks. He has no control of his vote. If America wants him to vote for Y, but he wants X, it doesn't matter. Eric serves as a voice for production (disguised as 'America') so long as he's in the house. The level of production influence and manipulation, both on the feeds with Eric as their voice, and in the diary room, was everpresent all season long, and it's still to this day the strongest presence production has ever been felt in a season.

To be honest, there is no simple synopsis for this level of production interference. That synopsis above is only the beginning. It started the moment Eric entered the house, and it existed all the way until Eric ('America') cast his vote for the winner. I want to say that somehow this twist was not as bad as I'm making it out to be, but really it's slimy as fuck from start to finish, and it has its grimy fingerprints all over the season. And amusingly enough, despite Eric not even playing his own game, he was probably the best player of the season, in spite of the numerous production calls that he had no say in.

Every week production let America vote for: who Eric would try to get nominated as well as who Eric would try to get evicted (and vote for). But this didn't always work to Eric's advantage, and throughout a lot of the game it was critically in Eric's worst interest to follow productions orders. But Eric was a fairly suave, intelligent, strategic player who did his best to work within the limitations he was given. He was told to push for one player and sometimes it was in his best interest, and so it was pretty easy, but then sometimes it was the last thing he should've done, yet he still did it for the sake of the twist. Eric would earn $10k for every 3 tasks he completed - that's a good amount of dough. So it always behooved him to follow orders on behalf of 'America'.

One of my biggest issues with this twist is that it relies on the edit. The story of BB8 quickly became that of an estranged father/daughter relationship finding their common ground all while playing the game. At face value it was very touching and very easy to craft a narrative around that would draw in viewers. The father and daughter - Dick & Daniele Donato - were crafty, strategic (for better and worse), dramatic, and oftentimes made for good TV. Everyone had opinions on them. They were memorable. And so the producers made it abundantly clear that they were the stars to pimp out to bring in ratings, to make the narrative of the season really strong. The Donatos oftentimes put themselves in bad positions due to their lack of social grace, and thus were underdogs throughout most of the season. Dick was loud and rude and would make derogatory remarks, and just about all of the worst comments were kept out of the edit. Now why would they do that?
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TopicTop 5 Worst Rigjobs in the History of Big Brother US
Peridiam
07/17/17 8:10:13 PM
#76
BakusaiTenketsu posted...
Peridiam posted...
Any guesses what it'll be?

Im gong to guess it will be the worst rigjob in us bigbrother history, in your opinion.

This is a scarily accurate non-answer.
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TopicTop 5 Worst Rigjobs in the History of Big Brother US
Peridiam
07/17/17 5:25:30 PM
#73
TopicWimbledon topic [tennis][no serena edition]
Peridiam
07/17/17 12:22:22 AM
#142
Good to know. I'd say it was more of a bad final than a good one, but I'm glad Fed got 19.
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TopicWimbledon topic [tennis][no serena edition]
Peridiam
07/16/17 11:21:04 PM
#140
From a historical standpoint obvs it's not terrible.

But a 3-set flush with one player bawling like a baby is not a great match.

I'd say it's warranted to be called terrible.
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TopicWimbledon topic [tennis][no serena edition]
Peridiam
07/16/17 8:53:08 PM
#136
I think it's pretty easy to understand why someone wouldn't like a stomping. It's not dramatic, if Federer had won in a 5-setter it'd be the same thing just way more exciting. Way more memorable. Anything "way more" is probably nothing but a good thing.

I mean it's cool he didn't drop a set too, that's damn impressive. But a 5-set nail biter would be much better.
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TopicTop 5 Worst Rigjobs in the History of Big Brother US
Peridiam
07/15/17 11:32:11 PM
#68
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