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red sox 777 posted...

There's an asset point at which a person will have a difficult decision to make between buying insurance or not, which is the same for all insurance products. People around this level are losing, if we adopt Trump terminology.

What is this level under Obamacare? Probably starts off with at the line where the unsubsidized portion of health insurance premiums are equal to the penalty for not being insured, and continues a good amount past the line at which you get no subsidies.

Aren't some insurance products mandatory? Like car insurance? So like, no it's not the same as all of them.

And I would think the line would be somewhat higher than the penalty because the penalty cost gets you nothing while you get a useful product out of paying the same amount for insurance. How much higher it would have to be would depend on the person though.

The difficult decision you're describing also doesn't get any easier without Obamacare (quite the opposite). And I'm not sure why we're even talking insurance now -- we were talking emergency care without insurance before, and I only brought in insurance to say even that doesn't solve the problems with the insane debt from said emergency care. The only way I can think of that what you're saying now is relevant is if you're just, like, admitting that you're fine with people potentially losing everything they have because they happened to get sick in a country of shit-tier health care, as long as it was their own "choice" (and I use heavy, HEAVY scare quotes there).
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red sox 777 posted...

Technically no, but I think it's a fair assumption. If I own a mansion or something and just keep $200 in the bank, I would have just bought insurance in the first place cuz it would have been a good deal for me.

Who said mansion? Plenty of people own a car or a modest home or just have possessions that are worth a little something and still can't afford insurance in an open market without subsidies, much less afford the insane medical debt you can accrue even WITH insurance.
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red sox 777 posted...

If they want to sue me for the $200 I have, they are welcome to spend more in attorney's fees to file the paperwork than the amount they will recover.

Having $200 in the bank doesn't mean you have no assets?? Or future income for them to garnish?
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Not_an_Owl posted...

Kenri posted...

I forgot for a second that capitalism is inherently garbage.

Capitalism is an excellent system for certain purposes. Take cars, for instance - now is probably the best time it's ever been to be buying a car, because you have a huge amount of choices and the only limiting factors are your budget and your needs in a car. Need lots of passenger room? There's a variety of minivans out there. Need to carry around lots of messy cargo? Go for one of the dozens of pickup trucks on the market. On a tight budget but still need transportation independent of any other schedule? There are entire companies dedicated to making affordable cars. Have a bigger budget and want to splurge? Go for a BMW, Lexus, or any other luxury automaker. And if you just want to go fast, there are plenty of sports cars out there just waiting for you to spend your money on.

The problem with capitalism is that it assumes everyone always has a choice in how they spend their money, and when it comes to things like health care that's just not the case. If you have $200 in the bank and no insurance, get sick, and are told your only options are a $500,000 course of treatments or death, you're going to take the expensive treatments even though you can't afford them because the alternative is fucking dying.

I dunno man to me this is like saying that a guy's nice because he buys you dinner even if later he beats the shit out of you. The former doesn't really make up for the latter.

Sorry, are we still talking about Johnny Depp?
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Jakyl25 posted...

Kenri posted...

Sounds like a saying people should actually feel pride in living by instead of a witticism that belies hatred of the less fortunate.

I see where you're going with that, but there's also the inherent fallacy that you working harder means more money is produced.

Good point! I forgot for a second that capitalism is inherently garbage.
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Sounds like a saying people should actually feel pride in living by instead of a witticism that belies hatred of the less fortunate.
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And if the parents don't or can't, the kids should suffer for it!
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Jakyl25 posted...

They want federal ownership of park lands to revert to the states whenever possible

I uh definitely would not call this a good thing. It's just a nicer phrased way of saying they want to be able to sell off protected public land for private exploitation.
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Corrik posted...

If I were you, I would just stop.

You're incapable of stopping so tbh I doubt it.
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Corrik posted...

I said that the victories mean people like the message.

And you're wrong about that. It's really not true whatsoever.

If you can't even get this far I'm not bothering with the rest of your response.
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Corrik posted...

So what is your point? That you lost? Who cares how you try to spin it. The victors are the victors. Democrats control nothing. You can throw any numbers you want out that you want. It doesn't change the result.

lmfao

"The people love Rublican policies."
"...no they don't"
"well who cares we won anyway suck it nerd"

You could just say what you mean from the start instead of attempting this tedious bullshit.
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red sox 777 posted...

That presumes that people are stupid and can't be taken at their word.

Explain how?
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red sox 777 posted...

If people voted for the leopard to eat their faces

...they didn't.

they voted for the leopard to eat someone else's face.

that's the whole point of the leopard party analogy??
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can't wait until our next 4-term socialist tyrant
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Jakyl25 posted...

Johnny Depp stupidly said...

When was the last time an actor assassinated a President?

God dammit Hollywood liberals

Beating the shit out of your wife -> assassinating the president does seem like a logical progression though
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Raka_Putra posted...

Can I have Mirror's Edge please?

DpObliVion posted...

I'll try Atom Zombie Smasher. Thanks!

Sorry for the hold up, sent out now!
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If it's not adjusted for population then it's not really accurate in any way.

But that's the great thing about statistics: you can use real stats and just change the way you present them to make it seem like reality is way different than it actually is.
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5tarscream posted...

Could I get Populous?

Sure thing. Sent.
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AfroSquirrel posted...

If Orcs Must Die 2 is still available, I'd like it!

Sent
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Cody11533 posted...

Could I please have Machinarium?

cyko posted...

I would play Nightsky if you still have it. Thanks!

Sent!

Lolo_Guru posted...

I want to play Brutal Legend.

Claimed already, sorry. :/
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StealThisSheen posted...

Thank you!

woodman posted...

It worked, thanks!

No problem!

Shaduln posted...

Van Helsing?

Sent
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StealThisSheen posted...

I'd like Gish!

Sent

BlackMageJawa posted...

Thanks

Np
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BlackMageJawa posted...

I do technically own Brutal Legend already on PS3, but would much rather have it on PC

I'm the opposite lmao, I only have so many Steam games because they're so cheap... I'd much rather play stuff a console. But then my laptop's not great so that's part of it.

Anyway, sent.
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I've only played it local on Xbox One but it was pretty fun. My group definitely wasn't good at stealth though, everything became a smash-and-grab after about 30 seconds.
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Camden posted...

Legend of Grimrock please?

SovietOmega posted...

Monaco: What's Yours is Mine

I somehow do not yet have this.

Sent.

Esuriat posted...

Thanks a bunch! I look forward to it

You're welcome! Hope you like it
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FFDragon posted...

Thanks!

No problem!

DeepsPraw posted...

Burnout plz

_stingers_ posted...

ill take the economica :)

Sent
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woodman posted...

FEZ caps

Sent.
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Healthcare's not even affordable under Obamacare and that's with the mandate to force costs down. I'm not sure what mechanism Trumpcare is using to lower prices, and last I checked no one else knows either.
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FFDragon posted...

I... somehow do not have Cave Story+

JONALEON1 posted...

I'll take To the Moon

Esuriat posted...

I don't have Bastion.

Along with several others, but I especially don't have Bastion

Sent.

Bastion is super good, definitely one of my favorite games.
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Nelson_Mandela posted...

Don't be a wiener. Access means access to affordable care.

sounds pretty socialist tbh
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So I guess the Steam sale's going on right now but in case you want to save $5...

Atom Zombie Smasher
The Basement Collection
Brutal Legend
Cogs
Gish
The Incredible Adventures of Van Helsing Complete
LIMBO
Machinarium
Nightsky
Orcs Must Die 2 Complete
Samorost 2
Superbrothers: Sword & Sworcery EP

I don't know if Origin is still a thing but if it is I have some codes for that too that I'll never ever use.

Origin:
Command & Conquer: Red Alert 3 Uprising
Crisis 2 Maximum Edition
Dead Space
Dead Space 3
Medal of Honor
Mirror's Edge
Populous
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TheRock1525 posted...

cop

well there's your problem
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Luckily I pulled +Atk Athena so I think she'll work out just fine once I get her to 40.

But I'm at tier 18 and don't think I can move up so I'm not too worried either way.
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Jeff Zero posted...

It feels like Kathleen Kennedy took a shot and missed.

As is her wont.
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TomNook posted...

Maybe they are inviting girls to their party who aren't old enough to buy alcohol, who want to get drunk and have sex.

Maybe. I didn't even consider that they might be that much younger than me.
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McCain is such an impotent little coward.
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Hardcore_Adult posted...

MenuWars posted...

Nothing worse than trying to have a good time while someone's whinging they don't have anything to drink.

This.

why are you guys inviting this socially oblivious douchebag to your parties
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If it's just a pregame you don't need much, 1-3 drinks per person? I'd get a case of beer and maybe offer whatever bottle I already had, or vice versa. The main event is elsewhere.

BUT if it's a pregame I'm not sure why you'd expect many people to BYOB, for exactly the same reason. What, is someone gonna bring a couple of those single shot bottles of tequila or something? Nah they're just gonna show up.
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Paratroopa1 posted...

if I took up falconry tomorrow and owned a pet falcon, that wouldn't make me a falcon

Well not with THAT attitude
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Nelson_Mandela posted...

That was Smuffin, but I appreciate the libe (another reasonable limit rarely upheld in the US)l!

i'm glad you edited this because i was just about to comment on how lacking in self-awareness you are lmao
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Anyway America sucks and it's not because of this ruling (which changes and affects basically nothing)
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scarletspeed7 posted...

Nelson_Mandela posted...

SupremeZero posted...

And this legal ruling is a reason why we are absolutely better in every way?

Considering free speech is the single most important human right, yes

You heard it here first. Life is less important than speech.

You heard that here first? Have you missed the GOP's entire platform for decades?
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We should force GameFAQs, a private business, to allow actions it does not approve of, in the interest of freedom.
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I started playing during Invasion and stopped after Time Spiral, so looking forward to the writeups for the newer blocks! BFZ sounds like a shitshow, geez.
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Nelson_Mandela posted...

Welcome to debating socially malfunctioning Leftists

this is a pretty ballsy comment coming from the "it's normal to enjoy hurting people :)" guy
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does it count as being mocked for my accent if people mock me for saying "hella"
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TheRock1525 posted...

It's more like telling the person on the skyscraper "There's a glass walkway, feel free to step out" and the person dies.

I mean, I'm only criticizing the one sentence in the article (for hurting their own already dumb point), not trying to make a broader argument here.
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SmartMuffin posted...

"I didn't break the vase, the floor did".

Vases do not act, people do.

Irrelevant here but feel free to imagine shoving someone off a skyscraper and the same logic. "I didn't kill him, the ground did."
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Neither scenario matters. Whatever her motives or her poor choices, the important legal question is whether her words actually caused Roy's death. And it was carbon monoxide poisoning that killed Conrad Roy, not Michelle Carter's messages.

Regardless of whether their bigger argument is right or wrong, this is about as effective a statement as "I didn't break the vase, the floor did".
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SupremeZero posted...

Have any gay men dropped dead on Trump's doorstep? It might be a bit early to say he's better.

He basically dropped his support for AHCA right? So people will be dying on the steps of Congress instead.
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