Lurker > Sheep007

Nagito
Seymour

I could have lived my whole life without that, and it would have been all the worse for it. Thanks.

Sayori
Witch
Player
Moon-Gwang

Decent enough draw for both Poland and Wales. CONCACAF team + Asian team is the best either could have hoped for.

England/US/Iran/any of those UEFA teams is an absolute geopolitical hilarity of a group. Can't imagine any sillier or more chaotic groups with the draw as it is.

Also, the trials get absurdly long at points in this game, more so than any of the others. I'd take a break at the intermission if you can.

KCF0107 posted...

If more games had murder mystery elements in similar abstract scenarios like this, I would play them. As you can probably tell, I'm attentive and super into theorizing the truth once a body drops. It's unfortunate that it has to come in a package deal with cringy anime crap.

That's absolutely fair, and I do wish there were more detective-style games. I kinda like some of the more over the top aspects of the series and idc about anime cringe, but some of the oversexualisation, tropes, characters, and the convoluted plot is just too much even for me. I'll still defend 1.4 and 2.5 to the death though because those chapters were more fun than any VN has the right to be.

I wanna say Skyward Sword? I ran into the game breaking bug near the end and lost any motivation to touch it again. Maybe Xenoblade, if not. I also think I may have left Dragon Quest IX at the final boss?

I remember my specific reaction to this case about a quarter way through was "someone fucking ziplined the corpse into the piranha tank didn't they". I'm normally bad at predicting stuff in these games but that one just made me laugh.

Also I'm honestly surprised you're playing this considering you didn't seem a massive fan of the first two! It's quite a time commitment for games you aren't fond of, although this is coming from someone who drops games after three hours and forgets to ever play them again even if they're amazing up to that point.

Saiki

Hyouka

Crescent-Moon posted...

Did Sultan ever actually claim before getting instamurdered?

He might have? He was planning to claim sleepwalker, I think, which would say he is forced to visit someone every night. That claim probably gets him murdered either today or tomorrow if people don't end up at each other's throats

But IGCD woulda been dead in that scenario actually so yeah if I was still alive I may have taken some convincing

Crescent-Moon posted...

Sheep how would you have reacted to my jumping on Sultan in like an hour?

I don't know if I would have reconsidered my thoughts on him overnight with the benefit of a break? But I feel like I would have reacted very poorly initially and then read back and reconsidered. I also think his claim was fine but had a limited lifespan and the response to the Isquen/IGCD clear was not great, so I think disagreeing would have been difficult by the time the game was ending.

As I said in town chat, murdering me was absolutely the right play and I would have done it too in pretty much anyone else's shoes. I hadn't been in the game when anything important was happening to build up solid reads (another reason why Sultan just flew under my radar) and everyone else just looked better. The entire PoE was me and I went into the day thinking "oh god I need to murder either Ben or Corrik to survive" and when those looked off the table I was toast. I think it's a bloody miracle that I almost managed to not die in the first place.

Hibike Euphonium

Not too happy with this game even if my reads were okay. I think I did well defending myself D3 but I just had the total wrong gist of the game and just couldn't make myself assume that certain players were scum and look at the possibilities with that in mind. I think I specifically failed at this with Chang and Sultan and I probably woulda jumped into the abyss rather than kill Sultan in the end.

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

People call me stupid every game.. dont take things personally its just a game

You definitely aren't stupid. I think you played very well as scum this game and the main reason you got caught out is because everyone else was just so ridiculously cleared, and I was the only one particularly intent on keeping you alive. And town was just broken and filled with good players to boot. If people do think you're dumb, you can take advantage of that by making them underestimate you and think you said or did something that basically confirms you as town because it's dumb. Hell, I cleared you in my head because you were acting like a newer town player when I knew you weren't, and I probably died specifically because I did underestimate you and didn't want to force you to claim.

Bill
Bing Bong
Boromir
Yondu

I'm not even that big a Marvel fan but Yondu's death absolutely got me in tears which is incredibly rare for me. Shame it's come up against Mari because Mari is still probably a top 10 death for me and I'd rather vote Omori than a Marvel property, but Yondu just hit different.

Shroomish is adorable. Best Hoenn line overall (although I do kinda think Hoenn sucks). Everything else in this poll is meh, but not dreadful.

Shroomish >> Foongus > Cottonee > Cacnea > Applin > Snover > Morelull >> Exeggcute

Wait actually Numel exists I take that back Shroomish and Breloom can be second best

Saiki

Hyouka

Hibike Euphonium

Nagito
Ellie
Logan
Lovett

##Vote: IGCD

what if I told y'all I was town bomb

that would be funny I think

not true but funny

I appreciate the intent, Ben. Hell, I appreciate it from pretty much everyone. As I said before, last scum is playing well, and hopefully these night actions help us figure it out better.

##Vote: IGCD

He has more chance of being scum than me. If you think we're both town, just do a Crescent and weigh up whether me alive or IGCD's role has more utility.

DoomTheGyarados posted...

... you guys won the game after killing me lol

and we'd have won it even harder if you were alive

DoomTheGyarados posted...

dude, we literally have killed 3 scum in 3 games why suddenly all frownie face

Never trust a town to do the right thing without you. You of all people should know this.

DoomTheGyarados posted...

watching you guys try to figure out mafia theory might be enough to make me die tonight of revulsion rather than a scum shot geesh guys

I at least have the excuse of knowing I'm town and not trusting y'all to win after I die!

Yeah we aren't killing Corrik today as much as it would feed my ego to try

Corrik7 posted...

We already went over that the chart doesn't work if its vanilla, townpower, or anything else unless Mzero is scum or red where scum didn't really poison him.

Why do I have to keep repeating this. Go to page 1 of this topic. Jesus.

Chang, he's... kinda right, actually. There's also the possibility a town power is lying and scum have a ninja roleblocker! If I'm remembering correctly anyway. But yeah, there's not just one thing wrong with The Chart. There's a fair few assumptions involved and we do not have the liberty to do that

DoomTheGyarados posted...

angry town, essentially. I thought he was targeted for goading by scum as well tbh

I mostly agree but ngl I am half-tempted by the urge to just try murder him because he's probably the least-bad player to lose going forward.

Bear in mind, Ben, that if IGCD is scum observer, then he also has a roleblock, which is just kinda wack

Hey Chris

Remind me of your thoughts on Isquen?

If IGCD is faking it we have won the game anyway because he is a dead man walking, but I doubt that's the case.

Corrik7 posted...

Night kill?

and roleblock on top too. Otherwise scum starts to look stupid weak.

Leafeon13N posted...

That said, i will float one theory, sign guy doesn't write messages, he just fills in blanks(or submits from a selection). And it is possible he selected 1 name for that sign to be good for(corrik) and if anyone else took it then it would be death.

But again, I've mostly withheld these theories because i find them pointless. I kind of just want this one on record for potential postgame talk.

I had the same thought when Ben said his word choice was limited.

changmas posted...

how can he clear if we don't know whether we can trust IGCD's result

If the disruption to his result is consistent then we see a drop that's consistent with what we know too. If it's not consistent or he's lying then we don't. Either way IGCD probably gets lynched tomorrow to prove Isquen anyway.

Do you think keeping IGCD alive and potentially clearing Isquen too is worth it?

I wanna ask this to everyone around who is left alive, actually. I'm still kinda considering letting myself die if everyone agrees that IGCD staying around is the better play (and y'all obviously have votes to do that so it's not exactly in my hands), but there's no reason to kill myself for someone who probably dies tomorrow anyway if nobody values the information they're putting out and they have any chance at all to be scum.

I'll take it if I survive! Probably.

Leafeon13N posted...

My brain says the safe play here is lynch igcd and we have enough info to figure out what needed to happen after that.

Do you think keeping IGCD alive and potentially clearing Isquen too is worth it?

Do Wales not make it into pot 3 if we qualify?

I would absolutely say Borrik and I applaud whichever masterful wordsmith sprung that one on us. Bravo indeed.

Hey, IGCD. Why do you think SBell and Ulti try and push the Ben lynch at the end of Day 1 if he's scum?

DoomTheGyarados posted...

good news you wont be eating it

autocannibalism baybeeee

idk Chris I'm vegetarian I'd rather not

I just play that way normally tbh until someone I've played like two games with ever starts tunneling me and I panic

Can I ask flavour? More out of curiosity than actual concern

I'm done with my reread. Isquen and IGCD have both been a non-factor today, which is disappointing. I feel like trying pressure through voting is going to be like smashing my face into a brick wall at this stage. Bit less than two hours left, right? I'm hungry as all hell and am gonna take a break for a while so I have some energy left to actually finish out the day.

Someone already guessed that you're tree stump, right?

I'm gonna be honest, Isquen. I don't think you're scum, although I have to give it some consideration because most of the options remaining seem outlandish, yet one of them is correct.

I think I understand why you have been wanting to vote Crescent. The way you and her are is just... not compatible, is my take right now. Crescent is always hyper, always defensive and abrasive. These are not reasons alone to lynch her, and I'm going to have to ask you to trust me on that part. I am open to changing my mind if there are other reasons to lynch her, but I have read nothing which is convincing whatsoever right now. I'm willing to listen, and if you're around before the end of the day I would genuinely really like to listen to what you have to say. And I will try to not just respond with "oh lol nah she's town" no matter how much I disagree because I don't think that'd be fair if you put forward your case.

I would also like to add, however, that Crescent is not claiming unlynchable, and I don't think she ever has? She said she was mortally confirmable, and comes back if she dies.

Can you direct me to that part if you don't mind, Crescent? I'm currently reading through topic six and I will forget you said this in like half an hour when I see what you were talking about.

Isquen, when exactly did your opinion on Crescent change? Did it change?

I'd also like to add that Isquen's complete ignorance of the SBell/MZero conflict when he literally claimed to gain an ability if he lynches scum is, as Crescent pointed out at the time, Bad.

I agree that Ulti probably realised you were not getting lynched at that point and just resolved to not piss you off yes.