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Trump scoffs at the "elite," calling them "stone-cold losers." This time he boasts about his base as "the super-elite" instead of just himself: "We got more money, we got more brains, we got better houses, apartments, we got nicer boats...we're the elite."

We got nicer boats here in...*checks card*...North Dakota!
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Xeybozn posted...

Jakyl25 posted...

I didnt vote for Hillary

...So all of this is your fault, then?

Well the Michigan part is, yes
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Nelson_Mandela posted...

Jakyl25 posted...

Nelson_Mandela posted...

This topic is an interesting microcosm of the 5 stages of grief

Im in the bargaining stage!

I would GLADLY give my life for a magic guarantee that conservatives/Republicans never again held a majority in either house of Congress after this year, or the Presidency after 2020.

Give him liberals or give him death!

Im asking for both, silly
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red sox 777 posted...

Jakyl25 posted...

Nelson_Mandela posted...

This topic is an interesting microcosm of the 5 stages of grief

Im in the bargaining stage!

I would GLADLY give my life for a magic guarantee that conservatives/Republicans never again held a majority in either house of Congress after this year, or the Presidency after 2020.

Would you be willing to publicly denounce Hillary Clinton for it?

I didnt vote for Hillary so sure. I dont want her in office. Ill take her 100/100 times over Trump though!

Hillary Clinton is hereby DENOUNCED by me! Will never vote for her!
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https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/1012141201678577665?s=21

The president on people criticizing him on trade: "It's like rushing the turkey out of the stove. The women can tell me. And some of the men...have to be politically correct...in the old days...but it's true, some of the men can tell me."

This is either incredibly feminist or incredibly misogynistic, but its too senile to understand
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Nelson_Mandela posted...

This topic is an interesting microcosm of the 5 stages of grief

Im in the bargaining stage!

I would GLADLY give my life for a magic guarantee that conservatives/Republicans never again held a majority in either house of Congress after this year, or the Presidency after 2020.
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pyresword posted...

What I'm saying is that even in some hypothetical world where it is an absolute philosophical truth that someone is not worth engaging with, you still should not tell that person either directly or indirectly that they are not worth engaging with.

Why?
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Trump says he used to be considered "an interloper" but now a poll "came out" that said, he says, "He's the most powerful, most popular Republican in the history of the party."

This rally is a gold mine
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President Donald Trump on how he felt after his VA reform: "I am the smartest person. My uncle was a great professor at MIT for 40 years...but I'm smarter than him, I'm smarter than anybody."

Heres an all-timer
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Trump says he'll let rich guys do their own rocket stuff and space exploration, but then, if they make accomplishments, he will seize the glory and "give them no credit."

He probably SAYS this jokingly, but its true
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Ill denounce that. Thats an awful thing for that person to say.

Also it wouldnt change anything Court-wise so WTF
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pyresword posted...

In the same spirit as my comment to Corrik, all that's going to do is unnecessarily piss people off, and comments in that vein from all parties are (I believe) a significant part of why our political climate is the way it is today.

We have given Corrik PLENTY of rope. Again, its not that his comment warrants ignoring him, its his history that proves that he cant handle basic conversational debate from an empathetic standpoint. He cares about laws more than human rights, so you know EXACTLY where he stands on any given issue, and there is no point to engaging him because his opinions arent worthy of respect.
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Our military makes a living reducing governments
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xp1337 posted...

I'm sure a lot of you think I have no room to say this but there are some posts just not worth responding to. I'd like to think - though I'm sure some of you disagree - that I can just immediately disengage if/when it occurs.

Im not engaging. Hes not intellectually capable of understanding his awfulness
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Corrik posted...

The moment when you realize you would have won the 2016 presidency and the Supreme Court if you hadn't made a stand on human rights. = /

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CelesMyUserName posted...

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CelesMyUserName posted...

Jakyl25 posted...

In this case Im not against it from an ethical standpoint. Im more against it from the stance that it could backfire against them when Conservatives got power again

I kinda feel like the unspoken agreement to keep it at 9 is the political version of Mutually Assured Destruction

Conservatives are already fucking the norms while Dems still cry restraint. The question is why Dems aren't letting it backfire on the Conservatives for crossing the line already.

Not sure how you can get it to backfire on them when they have all the power?

Your phrase "when Conservatives got power again" made me think you were speaking more generally, when Dems get back in power again (as things are building for them undeniably) they need to go full Punisher on their shit.

I was, I think I was confused by your use of arent in the present tense
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ChaosTonyV4 posted...

CelesMyUserName posted...

Conservatives are already f***ing the norms while Dems still cry restraint. The question is why Dems aren't letting it backfire on the Conservatives for crossing the line already.

Exactly.

How many talking heads constantly said "This obstructionism and do-nothing Congress will backfire on the GOP and give us two consecutive Democrat Presidents?"

I heard it everywhere.

And they were wrong because the Democrats "went high" while they "went low", and the low stuff catches more attention and gets people more pumped, so the rubber band never snapped back

Jakyl25 posted...

Yo Moderate Democrats and Never-Trumpers

Yall go ahead and start your own third party together. Pearl Clutchers Party.

Leave us progressive democratic socialists to fight the nationalists.

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xp1337 posted...

Jakyl25 posted...

I kinda feel like the unspoken agreement to keep it at 9 is the political version of Mutually Assured Destruction

I'm pretty torn on this, honestly. I think you're right that once one side does it, you've opened Pandora's Box and with each party change you'll see the number get bigger.

But at the same time, I think you have the Garland situation as one that attacked right at this idea. It gets worse depending on what Mueller finds. So in a sense, I feel like the first move was already made here.

Im not against Dems doing a version of the Garland tactic, as I said earlier.
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CelesMyUserName posted...

Jakyl25 posted...

In this case Im not against it from an ethical standpoint. Im more against it from the stance that it could backfire against them when Conservatives got power again

I kinda feel like the unspoken agreement to keep it at 9 is the political version of Mutually Assured Destruction

Conservatives are already fucking the norms while Dems still cry restraint. The question is why Dems aren't letting it backfire on the Conservatives for crossing the line already.

Not sure how you can get it to backfire on them when they have all the power?
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jcgamer107 posted...

foolm0r0n posted...

Jakyl25 posted...

I like the idea that God might not know that Im only pretending

"fake it til you make it" - Exodus 4:23

HA! That's not what Exodus 4:23 says at all - it's about God murdering baby boys

http://biblehub.com/exodus/4-23.htm

God is so metal
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ChaosTonyV4 posted...

LordoftheMorons posted...

I've seen quite a few people on reddit supporting packing the court as soon as the Dems regain majorities (which I vehemently disagree with)

tbh this is why Dems are getting crushed.

Republicans have literally no shame in forcing their agenda through, on the basis that they say they "love the country" and "want whats best", while Democrats continue to hold themselves to a farrrrrr higher standard.

Which would be "admirable", if the end result wasn't their constituents getting fucked by the GOP.

Add in the fact that the Republicans favorite tool is to morally demean their opposition while clutching pearls at the slightest counterpunch, and you have a situation where Dem's simultaneously look self-righteous AND lose.

In this case Im not against it from an ethical standpoint. Im more against it from the stance that it could backfire against them when Conservatives got power again

I kinda feel like the unspoken agreement to keep it at 9 is the political version of Mutually Assured Destruction
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Why would you EVER set it to an even number?
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I could easily look this up but how did we get to 9?

I know it hasnt always been 9
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LordoftheMorons posted...

I've seen quite a few people on reddit supporting packing the court as soon as the Dems regain majorities (which I vehemently disagree with)

Don't know how our norms are gonna get unfucked anytime soon, though.

I dont get how you can pack the court

Unless they mean appointing more total judges to the bench?
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Corrik posted...

The funny thing is... if Dems tried to fuck Trump, he would definitely pack the court.

Unlike Trump, most Democrats wouldnt fuck someone without consent
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Dont really support that though.

Even if Dems had the Senate majority, I would still be super pissed at them if they didnt go through with the formal process of bringing it to a vote.

Thats really what upset me most about what Mitch did. If they voted down Garland instead of just refusing to do their job, I would call it fair play
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xp1337 posted...

Jakyl25 posted...

If you have Dem senators, call them and tell them they shouldnt approve any nominee of Trumps that doesnt share progressive values

I don't think there's any worry of Schumer and Gillibrand not knowing that. But there's nothing they can do.

OR IS THERE

https://twitter.com/ddayen/status/1012089564830228480?s=21

So as I understand it, a way this could go would be to deny Republicans a quorum by not showing up to the vote. If McCain can't get there they don't have 51 votes.

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If you have Dem senators, call them and tell them they shouldnt approve any nominee of Trumps that doesnt share progressive values
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Blast it! Foiled again! Our gay agenda is in jeopardy!

Stewart, call the scientists. The drinking water needs another...dose.
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Also LOL Corrik
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Yeah and now Dems are mad he hasnt resigned.

Were past the deadline now for a special election. If he leaves office now, the GOP Governor gets to appoint his replacement.
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I like the idea that God might not know that Im only pretending
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Oh I dont think anyones really arguing that.

Weve spent a lot of time carving the difference between people who like Star Wars and people who define themselves by Star Wars fandom.
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Surprised at the guts from Schumer

https://twitter.com/davidmackau/status/1012053928874307584?s=21

#breaking Schumer pulls a McConnell: "Our Republican colleagues should follow the rule they set in 2016: not to consider a Supreme Court justice in an election year. ... Anything but that would be the absolute height of hypocrisy."

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Lopen posted...

"Hardcore Gamers" and "Hardcore Star Wars fans" as you guys define them are going to be cringey independent of the fandom. They're just socially awkward people clinging to something. Take that away and they'll cling to something else. People who are on Twitter or Facebook 12 hours a day aren't much better, really.

This is kind of a chicken/egg reversal of the concept. Neat twist!

I dont feel as though people are inherently doomed to be socially awkward, beyond those that have a personality disorder.

Social confidence only takes practice, IMO.
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paperwarior posted...

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Eddv posted...

Youre confusing identity with the core of who you are.

I wager Shake that you would be roughly the same person if you halved the amount of time you spent gaming.

Or even just the name.

Like if I told you that you arent a true gamer, but didnt actually take any games away from you, would you care?

I would think you were one of the dumbass people you're citing as a problem here. >.>

Exactly!
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paperwarior posted...

Well I don't do that but how major does an element of your life need to be to be associated with the self? I do feel a real sense of community with other people who play video games. I don't want to drive others away; if anything I'd like more of them to join in. It's impossible to ignore that a lot of people who play video games have bought into toxic political beliefs and become sort of video game tribalists, but that isn't inherent to having a sense of community, is it?

I would say that this shows that the core part of your identity is loving video games, not BEING a gamer. The actual act of gaming is much more important to you than the cultural label
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Eddv posted...

I think Michael Avenatti might be running for President.

We have a street fighter in the White House who uses those skills to inflict harm on the most vulnerable. The answer is not more weak-kneed politicians or policy wonks. The answer is street fighters for good.

I think he just nominated Guile
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Eddv posted...

Youre confusing identity with the core of who you are.

I wager Shake that you would be roughly the same person if you halved the amount of time you spent gaming.

Or even just the name.

Like if I told you that you arent a true gamer, but didnt actually take any games away from you, would you care?
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Xiahou Shake posted...

I feel like what you guys are talking about is less "having something as a core part of your identity" and more "being a cringey asshole."

Then again I'm of the stance that literally everything we do is a part of our identity and our self worth ought to come from somewhere beyond all of that, so it sounds like it's mostly a philosophical difference.

I think so. Everyone loves to play games, so they are gamers, but theres a loud subset of that who cling to the moniker, getting enraged by anyone who would dare expand it beyond what kinds of people were gaming in 2002.
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Remember this copypasta was once meant unironically

They targeted gamers.

Gamers.

We're a group of people who will sit for hours, days, even weeks on end performing some of the hardest, most mentally demanding tasks. Over, and over, and over all for nothing more than a little digital token saying we did.

We'll punish our selfs doing things others would consider torture, because we think it's fun.

We'll spend most if not all of our free time min maxing the stats of a fictional character all to draw out a single extra point of damage per second.

Many of us have made careers out of doing just these things: slogging through the grind, all day, the same quests over and over, hundreds of times to the point where we know evety little detail such that some have attained such gamer nirvana that they can literally play these games blindfolded.

Do these people have any idea how many controllers have been smashed, systems over heated, disks and carts destroyed 8n frustration? All to latter be referred to as bragging rights?

These people honestly think this is a battle they can win? They take our media? We're already building a new one without them. They take our devs? Gamers aren't shy about throwing their money else where, or even making the games our selves. They think calling us racist, mysoginistic, rape apologists is going to change us? We've been called worse things by prepubescent 10 year olds with a shitty head set. They picked a fight against a group that's already grown desensitized to their strategies and methods. Who enjoy the battle of attrition they've threatened us with. Who take it as a challange when they tell us we no longer matter. Our obsession with proving we can after being told we can't is so deeply ingrained from years of dealing with big brothers/sisters and friends laughing at how pathetic we used to be that proving you people wrong has become a very real need; a honed reflex.

Gamers are competative, hard core, by nature. We love a challange. The worst thing you did in all of this was to challange us. You're not special, you're not original, you're not the first; this is just another boss fight.

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The They is feminists
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Like, would you see this image and go Aww yeah

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paperwarior posted...

See, I don't get that. I'm so into video games that it is a part of my core identity.

Does your self worth come from gaming? If not, thats not what we mean
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Mr Lasastryke posted...

Jakyl25 posted...

The media you consume should never be part of your core identity

why not?

Because then your self-worth comes from what you watch instead of what you do.

And that leads to gatekeeping. For you to feel special as a fan, you have to drive out casuals. If a person who just sees the movies once is as valuable of a fan as someone whos home is a shrine to George Lucas, and your inward model of yourself comes from how loyal of a fan you are, you feel worthless.

We learned this lesson very harshly with gamers
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SmartMuffin posted...

b. Socialism murdered 100 million people in the last century. That's a lot worse than anything racism has done lately.

I thought you hated oppression Olympics
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scarletspeed7 posted...

That's not true at all. You can be a Star Wars fan and still be in a vacuum, separated from other Star Wars fans. You can have none of the traits you're complaining about and still consider a part of your core identity.

The media you consume should never be part of your core identity
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https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1011994162076573697?s=21

Harley-Davidson should stay 100% in America, with the people that got you your success. Ive done so much for you, and then this. Other companies are coming back where they belong! We wont forget, and neither will your customers or your now very HAPPY competitors!

This feels illegal
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