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EverDownward posted...

it's honestly pretty hilarious to watch people prostrate themselves over a literal teenager because he doesn't like guns.

i think its more frustration that the left is basically propping this kid up and hiding behind him to push their agenda which i feel they are compounded to do ANYTHING to try and get one over on the trump administration (i honestly feel theres more to that than the actual issue of guns). theres been a lot of young speakers on this issue in the past and none of them came anywhere close to hogg's reception and there really isnt anything special about him.

you have the same bullshit that comes out of cnn's mouths that you do with hogg who both know absolutely nothing about the actual subject outside of "guns are bad". but hogg is a fresh young face to push on impressionable youths who statistically lean left before they have the opportunity to see how the real world works (hence wanting to lower the voting age) so you have massive amounts of money and help being pumped into this cause that you never really seen before even during 2 substantially worse events that being vegas and sandyhook.

i was tired of him the moment he shared his "ideas" for his type of gun control.

the only real negatives i have with michigan are--
horrible car insurance
bad roads more often than not (thanks to: see below)
other worldy weather
moderately annoying handgun laws
inconsistent police

thats basically it. i havnt seen barely any of the other shit people are complaining about and iv lived in most area's outside of the UP. stay out of the south-east regions and its quite nice. i plan to retire to the UP at some point, hopefully near superior.

i dont know whos more stupid. those who do this or mr. hogg himself

SuperGamer5 posted...

I've been looking at buying a gun recently. I'm just looking for a handgun, probably chambered in 9x19. I'm not a firearm enthusiast, so I'm not looking for anything too extravagant. Is there a good 9mm handgun for ~$500?

glock 19.

im not a fan of glocks personally, but they work and are simple. general utilitarian handgun.

booboy posted...

I'm considering adding an AK to my collection, what do you think of the C39 V2 from Century?

from what iv heard they dont hold up well. century's QC is pretty spotty in general. for $100 more you can get an arsenal slr-107 which is infinitely better (if you can find them).

specialkid8 posted...

What exactly makes this a pistol rather than just a carbine?

no stock. well atleast not according to ATF's incredibly stupid laws.

also your collection really needs an A2 and/or A4.

Darkman124 posted...

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ChainedRedone posted...

Ruger mini 14 is shit. I can definitely see it being much less effective than an AR as a weapon. Seriously, the mini 14 is fucking ass. Not sure why it keeps getting brought up.

Because it is the same as an AR-15. Both are magazine fed, semi-auto, .223 caliber rifles. Just because you have a negative opinion of it doesnt make the comparison any less viable.

also i've taken a mini-14 to the range

it's just as accurate at realistic (non-competition) ranges

mini-14 is a good rifle (now), but its definitely a step back on an AR. no easy bolt release and clunkier magazine changes (that are also 3x more expensive for quality ones) and just far less customize and smaller aftermarket overall. its pretty much what you use when you dont have access to an AR or are afraid of an assault weapons ban of which the mini tends to always conveniently get left off of.

still i always find it interesting when people shit on it as if its not just as dangerous as an AR when the Mini14 has the single highest body count for an individual for a mas shooting in history. the youtube shooter shot several people and killed no one with a handgun while the virginia tech shooter killed 32 with handguns. if someone knows how to use it it doesnt matter much what type of gun it is or what caliber. this is why singling out AR's as this unique death machine is so stupid.

liberals - wants to compromise on gun control.
-gives list of things that wont work, but will make them feel better.
-dont give anything to the other side making the "compromise" aspect pointless.
-says they dont want to take away guns but gives list of demands that usually takes away guns.

conservatives - do nothing.
-(secretly go in on some gun control, pissing off their base anyway)
-its mental health! (proceeds to cut mental health care and social programs)
-more guns! more! muahaha

they go pew pew pew.

depends on the crimes. do your time and you should be able to get your rights back assuming they arnt violent.

iv always cringed at the term "guard dog". i always picture nutnfancy's face saying it.

never did like glock much, but they work so what evs.

gbpxl posted...

Stop living in fear. This scenario isn't going to happen

you created the scenario. i merely said no, in that specific scenario you wouldn't necessarily need something more than an ar15. thats why the ar15 is as great as it is. its immensely versatile.

gbpxl posted...

You're gonna need an even bigger gun than an AR-15 to defend against them

nah. just an ar15 with a 100round beta-c magazine and loaded with M995

repetition and practice. know the fundamentals and ingrain them in your brain.

they dont care.

LightHawKnight posted...

Most people are not responsible gun owners.

theres an estimated 1000 deaths due to accidents (less if you only factor in some kid finding a gun and hurting themselves or others). there are 100+ million gun owners. so that means roughly .001% of gun owners are irresponsible (so far). i wouldnt call that "most".

the entire concept of the 2nd is to not put the populous at an insane disadvantage from an opposing force. you sure as hell arnt going to be doing the same level of damage with your great grand dads hunting rifle as you are with an ar15. so yes, ar15's are protected under the second and technically so are any "assault rifles" and explosives that any soldier could take on their person.

SilvosForever posted...

then why can't I have and use these weapons?

you technically can for most of those, they just have higher restrictions.

regardless this type of reasoning always pisses me off. its the same type of crap you hear from people who says, "well you cant defeat the government with your little rifle anyway". so you want people to be at an even LESS advantage just because the chances are low? fuck you. people like that are those who will stick a knife in your back when the chips are down.

escape from tarkov's are also pretty insane.

but you trust skynet?

i worry more about getting into a car crash. i see fucking crazies on the road nearly every day.

that said i do carry a gun. i also carry a multitool and small flashlight. as well as a fire extinguisher, first aid kit, truck supplies and a get home bag in my truck. never know.

shotguns do come in magazine fed variants. you can also get a KSG-25 and load it up with 42 mini shells.

it also doesnt take much to kill targets at 15 yards like most mass shootings happen at. at that distance you can make due with anything as long as you know how to use it.

Rika_Furude posted...

Its worth it if i can walk down the street not in fear of a mass shooting or terrorist attack

you already can. your chances of getting shot are exceptionally low. id be more worried about the 1000 other ways that something can happen to you in your daily life.

Rika_Furude posted...

Didnt happen in australia

its not a 100% guarantee, it just makes things easier to go down that road, but theres some laws present in AU that are going down that line with their surveillance and certain speech laws. the UK is slowly becoming the poster child of this.

Rika_Furude posted...

That is the exact mentality america needs regarding weapons

thats the recipe for authoritarian regimes. it makes people be complacent and dependent on the system and less willing to do something about tighter restrictions and civil rights violations.

Rika_Furude posted...

Why has every country that has correctly implemented gun control seen a drop in mass murders, gun crime, crime in general, etc?

part of that is the mentality to firearms. most other countrys you cant actually use a gun for its intended purpose so you have less people who want to actually want to go through the process to get them. they arent there to defend you nor are they a symbol that the individual can forge their own path and focus on self reliance in life with them (the "american dream" so to speak). in other countrys they are a novelty that are there for a hobby that their governments decide upon. they know who owns what and can take them from you and punish you just as easily. so whats the point?

its a rifle...it aint gonna be pretty.

eston posted...

Good thing she only had a 9mm handgun, otherwise she might have killed some people

if she wanted to literally blow up peoples internal organs she should of used a .22.

curiously just after YT's new gun policies.

really gets the noggin joggin.

is bullying the core problem? most likely not, but its a part of it. just like an over emphasis on prescription drugs to fix lifes problems. lack of family care and cohesion, lack of sympathy of human beings and their plights, growing up on the darkest reaches of the internet and constant onslaught of social media and 24/7news. theres so much shit that kids today get thrown at them compared to the 50's and 60's that its messing them up and putting them on a hair trigger (no pun intended).

1. it would be insanely expensive
2. nothing would come of it
3. the government would have easier access to know who has what

Canada already tried with this with their long gun registry and found it did nothing and ended up costing them 2billion and that was with a small small fraction of our guns.

this election has brought out the worst in everyone. the right are still stupid assholes, nothing new there. the left has been driven insane and turned into insufferable pussies.

i just want off the ride.

my 2014 tacoma is the best vehicle iv ever owned.

what guns, officer?

foreveraIone posted...

Or, a potential rapist can use a gun to easier force a woman into sex.

thats actually pretty rare. its estimated up to 6% of reported rape involves a firearm being present.

in terms of semi-autos, getting rid of them would effectively ban ~85% of firearms in the country. thats a double edged sword in that that is what you want if you wanted to get rid of guns, but its also the biggest hurdle and it is something that will make the pro-2a people fight viciously for and furthers their cause that liberals want to take away guns (which isnt far from the truth with wanting an 85% ban).

semi-autos give you a tactical advantage in high adrenaline situations where even cops dont remember how many shots they fired and each extra bullet you have and can fire means a higher chance of making it out of an encounter. bullets also dont work like you think unless you get someone in the spine or head and even heart shots dont kill instantly especially if someone is drugged up. not to mention if there is multiple threats. it also means atleast keeping on a more even keel to the government and deterring authoritarian rule. you can argue that a bunch of yocals with AR's cant do anything to the government, but who do you think can be deemed more of a threat, a 1000 people with a double barrel or a 1000 people with an AK?

the US also has a legacy of people willing to do crazy shit if they feel wronged so the chances of someone actually doing something tends to be higher.

but if you want a serious answer.

theyre highly ergonomic. come in a multitude of calibers (including stuff that can be used for hunting like 6.5creed and 300blackout and changing the barrels out to use them is immensely easy), can be highly customized (as well as come in "pistol" variants), different ammo is varied including stuff that wont penetrate highly. the .223/556 specifically tends to tumble and actually penetrate less than a higher powered 9mm making for less collateral damage. they are more compact than a standard rifle or shotgun making close quarters easier to manage. they have hardly any recoil so anyone can use them including a 5' woman, 12 year old and an 80 year old grandma. they can hold a lot of ammo so a lot of firepower if need be. while i wouldnt say they are the best at certain things they can fill multiple roles including target shooting, hunting, home defense ect. they are probably the most versatile weapon in the world which is why its as popular as it is not just in the US but the whole world next to the AK, but even then russian special forces are also starting to outfit them selves out with AR variants.

most of my views are left. i am a registered democrat, but im generally considered a "conservative democrat". i just happen to go hard right on a some stuff...that and i hate most of the actual people on the left.

i know right? my PCR is sucha cutie~

and why does her tweet garner this kind of response? that was a very very small criticism towards him compared to the shit that others are spewing at him.

this kind of shit is why people are calling you hitler youths.

this isnt a new thing.

5 is better even with all of its short comings. 4 is barely a game and worse yet its has some of the best gameplay, but strips it away from you too frequently and its second half dives too much on specific sequences limiting your options and how you interact with that gameplay. then you have the story which goes in the opposite direction 5 and feels like kojima wanking him self off. its a 16-20hour game on average, but only about 4hours of that has good quality gameplay.

i live in Flint, Michigan. if oyu want a laugh go look up their police response times.

no, i think ill continue to carry, thanks.

the lines are getting more clear.

TheBiggerWiggle posted...

Assuming the anti-gun people had the backing of the military, the hicks would be wiped off the planet within hours.

hard to fight an enemy thats mixed within your ranks and communities.

another civil war in this country would mean the end of it.

theyre making it pretty easy to assume that.

ahaha

i liked 2 the most..

Mistere Man posted...

Other countries make guns also, support the people that help sell your product.

and they cant do both, why?