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Anyways, current votals:

VeryInsane posted...

[4] NewDonker - Arti, Shattered, MI, death
[1] No Lynch - (FD), FD
[1] MI - Corrik
[1] FD - Nana

There's about 8 hours left in day

Corrik is town.
Panthera is town.

I know I'm Town.

That leaves 7 players, in possibly a 5-2 split. So there are 0, 1, or 2 scum on Donker.

If 2: Donker is town, don't lynch him.

If 0: It's been a low volume day and there hasnt been much push back on the Donker lynch. Scum really can't be bussing right now (and could easily have joined in on an FD, MI, or NL) so if Donker is scum, everyone on that lynch is probably Town. That means if Donker is scum, the last scum is FD or ColZach. Also means both scanners are legit which is bananas.

If 1- see above where I think scum won't be bussing.

Donker is town just by probability theory.
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Corrik posted...

MI didn't blow Chris up. Literally before Chris even came back to the game we agreed to autolynch him if he returned. The previous day.

Maybe I'm misremembering, but I'm pretty sure it was mostly just you saying to Auto Lynch Chris.

To be fair, I shot him, so I agreed, but I didn't vocalize that opinion ahead of time.
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Corrik posted...

Also puns had to die to get Chris back in the game to get his shot off. Then before day 3 everyone agreed to autolynch Chris if he showed back up. So he was alrdy getting lynched at that point.

While this is true, it's not an accurate portrayal. Puns needed to die, but if Puns died on like Day 5, Chris still comes back and can still shoot.
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Corrik posted...

Nanahara715 posted...

I really can't see MI as scum here.

Day 1: Has opportunity to lynch Chris instead of RB, but doesn't.

Day 2: immediately blasts Puns

Day 3: immediately blasts Chris.

So MI is scum and the plan was to lynch the RB, have the KN waste their action by kidnapping Chris to make him look good, sacrifice Puns, then immediately sacrifice Chris?

Like, why kidnap Chris at all for the credit if you're just going to immediately blast him?

You do realize Chris' role was stronger than the roleblocker's right?

Yeah, sure, but the plan is for Puns to kidnap Chris to give Chris a bunch of Town Cred, only for MI to blow it up immediately?
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I really can't see MI as scum here.

Day 1: Has opportunity to lynch Chris instead of RB, but doesn't.

Day 2: immediately blasts Puns

Day 3: immediately blasts Chris.

So MI is scum and the plan was to lynch the RB, have the KN waste their action by kidnapping Chris to make him look good, sacrifice Puns, then immediately sacrifice Chris?

Like, why kidnap Chris at all for the credit if you're just going to immediately blast him?
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Forceful_Dragon posted...

Yes, day 2.

No, not specifically day 2.

Are, you, like, still salty about it?
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Forceful_Dragon posted...

Nanahara715 posted...

Actually

FD - are you actually mad about Day 2 ending early?

Yes. Every day that ended pissed me off and greatly diminished my ability to participate as much as i wanted. Bear in mind that i had a 9 Day stretch of working every evening b when game started so i needed all the time day had to offer.

Further by ending the days early i have less in the logs to parse through.

So yeah, im mad.

Specifically Day 2?
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Panthera posted...

I'm curious now, Donker how much mafia experience did you have prior to this game?

I'm torn on whether FD's behavior is actual frustration or "look at me admitting I'm being anti-town today, only town would say that right guys?" signalling. His anger over prior days ending early looked genuine to me, this I'm not so sure on.

Actually

FD - are you actually mad about Day 2 ending early?
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Forceful_Dragon posted...

Refusing to NL is empirically anti town so ill just consider that a fair trade.

"Boo hoo I didn't get my way so I'm going to throw a hissy fit and continue to refuse to contribute."

Seriously, I'd rather lynch this guy than Donk because I know DOnk won't intentionally try to derail Town and actively refuse to contribute tomorrow.

It's seriously just going to be "Guys we should NL on Day 7" again tomorrow and I'm just fed up with dealing with it. FD is actively trying to avoid contributing and literally hasn't contributed anything positive all game.
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Forceful_Dragon posted...

Nanahara715 posted...

We started with 21. So your first numbers should be 15-6, add one to every town number.

This puts it at 8-6, not 7-6, which is a completely different animal. You're also ignoring flipped Town power like lawyer (to redirect a lynch) and claimed Town power (town directed Vig shot).

Yes, for some reason I thought our game was only 20 and didn't bother to double check.

But 8-6 is still mislynch/lose which is not a "completely different animal".

Also the vig can shoot town so that's another potential clock accelerant. Not a mark in your favor.

Forceful_Dragon posted...

Please bear in mind how incredibly fortunate we have been this game and don't let the fact that scum kidnapped themselves in a ploy that backfired immediately blind you to the facts.

It's the same reason we know that there wouldn't possibly be 3 scum remaining.

Vig shot doesn't count as an accelerant (neither does lawyer) because it is a town controlled decision. It SHOULD count as an ML if misfired, which technically means you could be 7-6 in LYLO on D3 after 3 MLs, making D3 the fourth
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Like, we aren't NLing. It's obvious you don't have the support. Now stop being the most worthless player in the game and MOVE ON
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Forceful_Dragon posted...

Nanahara715 posted...

Unless you're intimately familiar with what scum has left or know who all the Town players are then you would never NL here. And if you do know what scum has left and who all the Town players are, then you are scum.

Scum does not have anything that can accelerate the clock.

They had an EK and a kidnapper. If they had a 3rd clock accelerator the game could have been over almost immediately.

This isn't risky meta analysis but rather common sense.

14 vs 6
Mislynch
13 vs 6
Night1 kill
12 vs 6
Mislynch
11 vs 6
Night2 kill
Night2 extra kill
Night 2 kidnap
Hypothetical night2 othet extra kill shit that you are saying is possible.
7 vs 6

Day 3 is lynch/lose? I don't think so.

Please bear in mind how incredibly fortunate we have been this game and don't let the fact that scum kidnapped themselves in a ploy that backfired immediately blind you to the facts.

YOU DONT KNOW THIS.

And yes, we've seen games with D3 a strong LYLO.

Also, your numbers are straight up wrong and I'm not sure it's because your trying too hard to make a point that you're Town willing to lie, or you're scum trying to obscure the truth.

We started with 21. So your first numbers should be 15-6, add one to every town number.

This puts it at 8-6, not 7-6, which is a completely different animal. You're also ignoring flipped Town power like lawyer (to redirect a lynch) and claimed Town power (town directed Vig shot).
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Forceful_Dragon posted...

Nanahara715 posted...

Forceful_Dragon posted...

Yes nana?

What is your point because ive already covered that.

So why don't we just lynch Death today?

Because i MIGHT be wrong which MIGHT result in us being 2 MLs away tomorrow instead of 3 with the same info we could have had by NLing.

Seriously what is wrong with you guys??

This is so fucking stupid. Everyone might be wrong, but that doesn't mean we should be paralyzed by indecision.

You were wrong when you voted for Alakazam Day 1, but that mistake didn't end the fucking game, did it?

Mistakes get made. There are three fucking MLs left, there's no fucking reason to blow one now.

Counterpoint: we DONT know the scum team's remaining powers- something can still happen that will make the NL end up counting as a ML. For instance: they have a second EK, they have a double voter who has held back (moves LYlO up a day)

If there's a town player who is actually BP and lying about it, or for some reason there's an Nk at night, the NL would have cost us a ML.

Unless you're intimately familiar with what scum has left or know who all the Town players are then you would never NL here. And if you do know what scum has left and who all the Town players are, then you are scum.
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Forceful_Dragon posted...

Yes nana?

What is your point because ive already covered that.

So why don't we just lynch Death today?
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Like, If you think Death is scum then what information is he giving you tomorrow to help you make any decision?
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FD: "We need more information from out scanners."

Also FD: "Forceful_Dragon posted...

Panthera posted...

You seem oddly unwilling to consider that we could actually lynch scum today. Your whole plan seems to hinge on the idea that scum hunting today isn't something you want us to be doing. Who do you think the remaining scum are, incidentally?

I am not unwilling to consider that.

I very specifically considered it.

And i clearly stated that a successful lynch today puts us in the same position as a NL followed by a successful lynch. If your heart is set on Donk well guess what? His alignment is going to be exactly the same tomorrow as it is today. He won't magically transform into a town overnight.

And scum hunt all you want. I was hoping to use my time in the logs to find additional leads there personally.

But i didn't think id get stuck explaining what seems so clear to actually everyone.

I think Death is the most likely person to be scum.

I think he is lying about which actions he did when and was therefore the person who targeted Corrik on n2.

I have previously expressed this position though so this isn't a new stance.

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The argument "We'll have only two MLs left" is objectively terrible. Most mafia games are balanced around town having 3 MLs. If they ML day 1, then starting on Day 2, Town would have 2 MLs, but you never see people pushing for a NL on Day 2 because it's fucking stupid
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I feel like FD is using this NL argument to avoid actually generating content today or to avoid making a decision on who to vote for.
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Forceful_Dragon posted...

Nanahara715 posted...

No it's not. If ANYTHING, NL is the logical play TOMORROW. You don't blow an NL when you have one in your pocket until the latest possible time, preferably on a 3 on 1 situation. You definitely don't fucking blow it in a likely 8 on 2.

3 on 1 is a utterly shitty time to NL.

Scum kills whoever is most confirmed and leaves alive 1 person who will be more likely to suspect the other person.

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Currently by NL we stand to either gain an actual night action or a fake night action.

At 3 vs 1 by NL we stand to gain nothing at all. We just let scum dictate the 1 vs 2 in the most favorable way for themselves.

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Panthera posted...

FD, what made you feel Deadpool was terrible but not as much as Zam back on day 1? Your description of him "sounding scummish" but not "sounding scum" like you thought Zam did seems like an odd distinction, especially when your post suggests you were fine with the Deadpool lynch anyway. If both guys were scum in your eyes what made you prioritize one over the other?

It was the perspective that i was reading from their posts. Prof had some terrible posts, but they were terrible posts that i could see being made by town. Prof had posts that were not just bad but were bizarre. Put when i framed those posts as coming from someone with knowledge of others' alignments they became much more sensible.

So i saw bad posts that might have been town on onec side and illogical bad posts that made more sense coming from scum. That was the distinction.

And my break is over, back ti work.

Why is receiving a "fake" night action preferable?
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Forceful_Dragon posted...

Any lynch carries with it an inherent risk of taking us to 2 mislynches to lose. Combine that with a potential scanner gambit/trade and we can easily be at 1 lynch to lose.

NL is the logical play today.

No it's not. If ANYTHING, NL is the logical play TOMORROW. You don't blow an NL when you have one in your pocket until the latest possible time, preferably on a 3 on 1 situation. You definitely don't fucking blow it in a likely 8 on 2.
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Hypothetical 2 scum team:

GF & Mover

The mover submits the kill, so the mover can get caught by EITHER a cop or a tracker, wheras the GF can be caught by NEITHER until the Mover dies.

So hypothetically: shoot Tracker, mover is caught by cop, lynch mover, GF shoots Cop.

OR

Shoot cop, mover is caught by tracker, lynch mover, GF shoots Tracker

So there is no difference in risk when you compare the juxtaposition of actions.

So it's just preference to shoot Shad over MI? Which seems silly.
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ColZach posted...

The thing is we know theres a godfather left and if Ive gathered from context wall enough that means he scans innocent.

We dont know exactly how many scum were in this setup right?

Bold is completely wrong.
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Holy shit I forgot Donk too.
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Actually, I'm ignoring Death, it's totally possible he's moving scum in this scenario as well. So, we wouldn't be fully solved.
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Tbqh if MI was Town and had scanned and he scanned either of Colzach or SE, we basically won the game (rather, would have caught the moving scum by POE). I'm actually really salty about this.
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My Immortal posted...

Log
FAQs

It's slow but it works

Shad tracked

N1: Red
N2: Han
N3: DYL
N4: Han

DYL is town OR GF, no other options.

If MI is town, then the moving scum is not Arti, FD, or Panthera.

Err I guess Panthera is DYL, so MI's scan last night is actually really fucking stupid of him and he should have scanned ColZach or Crescent's spot instead.

Rationale:

We know scum has another moving piece and targeted Corrik N2. Chris and Han were both killing powers and Corrik wasn't saved, meaning that another moving scum targeted Corrik. This is probably not the GF because the GF is probably claiming Vanilla here.

So the other scum moves and isn't GF. Since DYL didn't move on n3, he isn't the non-GF but moving scum, so he could only be GF.

So MIs scan tells us absolutely ducking nothing we werent already able to deduce from Shad's tracks. To be fair, MI [theoretically] didn't trust Shad, but in that case should have scanned Shad.
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Forceful_Dragon posted...

Im having trouble believing MI bussed so thoroughly from day 1. The people being bussed did themselves no favors with their play but it's still an awful gamble. And to claim cop with the ridiculous counter claim potential...

Tracker, neutered watcher and cop i can still buy though. Odd one out is Death who i think actually targeted Corrik on night 2.

2 scum 8 town. Mislynch makes 2 vs 6 tomorrow and then 2vs4 the next.

That Makes today the correct day to NL.

Either scum kills the actual information role and tips their hand or scum kills a vanilla and the real info gets one more action in. It will be an even night so death will have to come up with something.

##Vote: No Lynch

##Vote: FD

We aren't No Lynching. If we need to NL at some point, it's at 8 when it could be 5-3, but even then it's not optimal.
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Did we seriously fucking lose all the topics?
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Does someone have Shad's tracks readily available?
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Personally surprised that Foolmo flipped "watcher" as Town and not "shitty watcher."

If he had more information and just wasn't sharing it, then idk what to say.
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MI isn't a cat
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foolm0r0n posted...

Nanahara715 posted...

there's no fucking in between

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Probability

You should read up on this before signing up to any future mafia

lol
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foolm0r0n posted...

9.93 htaeD posted...

I hate to say it
but MI could still be scum or scum kept him alive because their last member (or one of) is a godfather (and hasnt been scanned yet?)

foolm0r0n posted...

That is easily our biggest risk right now

Just pointing this out again

I want to emphasize that when I die and flip town, DESPITE the fact that I think our biggest risk is MI being scum, he should not be lynched tomorrow.

Does everyone understand this? I want MI dead, just not tomorrow. Don't do scum's job for them. That is what my vote right now represents. Yes it's a bit of trolling too, but pay attention.

This is so fucking dumb. Either he's scum and he should die asap or he's not and we shouldn't want to ever lynch him, there's no fucking in between
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Arti posted...

Corrik posted...

foolm0r0n posted...

My Immortal posted...

You've called me town all day but suddenly that's banter.

Oh okay but I was referring to Arti mostly

But hey we can go this route, sure

##Unvote: NL
##Vote: MI

(I was almosttttt disappointed in Corrik)

This completely shits on your don't lynch power all day mantra.

You gave him a chance to lynch someone else so why are you surprised

Actually-

Corrik was the first vote on MI. Death has been on FD for a while. Foolmo has listed FD as a top scum and MI as a top town.

If he was looking for a way to not vote NL and get on another lynch, the FD one makes so much more sense from the perspective he's been pushing-

1) it's on a guy he's calling scum
2) it was the 2nd leading vote gainer
3) FD has claimed "not scanner."
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foolm0r0n posted...

9.399 Arti posted...

My Immortal posted...

I'll scan Corrik tonight so that if I live he's 300% confirmed.

Good plan. Shad should also track him so he's 400% confirmed.

This def reads like scumbanter

"GUYS DONT LYNCH MI IF I FLIP TOWN, BUT LOOK AT THIS SCUM BANTER HERE"
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Forceful_Dragon posted...

Nanahara715 posted...

Why not just have me submit the factional instead in order to perpetuate the farce?

Because its a gambit? In that hypothetical you can't affor to waste the factional kill by actually targeting chros. You would still be reeling from the fiasco of the kidnappinggambit the night before.

Anyways that's not something i wanted to make a focal point. It was jyst to say that i don't consider you 100%.

You misunderstand what I'm saying- why wouldn't I have just used the factional kill to shoot you?
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Forceful_Dragon posted...

Forceful_Dragon posted...

Nanahara715 posted...

(Lowkey "Shooting scum as Vig was a bad shot" as well)

You were adamantly opposed to me that whole day. And yes Chris returned from the kidnap that night but he has also said bp at the beginning even if he somewhat walked it back. So i thought shooting him over me was an odd choice and one that raises the possibility that you never had a shot to begin with.

Not saying likely, just possible

If I couldn't shoot, I can't be scum.

We know Han didn't blow his SM N2 or he would've been tracked by Shad. We know Chris was an EK.

Why not just have me submit the factional instead in order to perpetuate the farce?
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Forceful_Dragon posted...

My Immortal posted...

What's your scumlist FD?

Fool > DYL > Nana

Fool on account of the lack of explanation for night 2. Also the biggest point i had in favor of fool being town was nullified by the knowledge that scare was saved on night 2. So Zam wasn't completely worthless.

In the even fool flips town then my top scumspect becomes Death under the assumption he is scum role cop and he lied about who hev targeted and when.

Nana has bugged me since bthe night i thought i was going to be vig'D. I don't think chris was a good shot and it would be a "confirmable" fake action after Chris flipped BP. But i have a hard time justifying Nana claiming vig as scum to begin with so that makes nanac seem legit. This one is shaky but we have at most 2 scum left anyways so its w/e. I just don't think nana is "confirmed" based on the events thus far.

And DYL is the weakest of the vanillas. This is based more on gut though and warrants an iso when i have the time.

And that's where im at right now.

"Foolmo is scum for a lack of explanation of night 2."

"Nana is scum [even though he was the one who pointed out Foolmo's lack of explanation of night 2]"

:/

(Lowkey "Shooting scum as Vig was a bad shot" as well)
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foolm0r0n posted...

Nanahara715 posted...

We aren't even in the fucking end game holy shit

We've mass claimed. It's late game. Stop with these childish tantrums over ever little thing. I thought Ulti was banned from this game?

You have nothing to say against my post though huh, just anger that I am right? You are the one attacking town play and trying to lynch town the next 3 nights. Have some introspection and fix your shit so we can win this game.

I'm a scanner though. I get info from the host. It's at least a 0.5 scan like roleblocker according to Corrik's notation.

It's day 5. For mafia to win, this game probably has to go to at least Day 9. Mid-game at best.

Bold doesn't make any sense because 1) you don't lynch at night and 2) I haven't made any comments about lynching any specific players tomorrow or the day after the entirety of today, so you're putting words in my mouth at worst or confusing me with someone else at best (which would be bad and inattentive Town play)
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Let's imagine for a minute that Foolmo is both Town and the best player on the board such that his reads are correct.

That means to force a majority to NL, he needs 6 players (half).

He's unlikely to be getting his "top town guys" in me, Shad, MI, and Corrik, based on previous statements by these players/ some of us are voting for him. The two scum in this case also would not want to NL.

So he has to get all the remaining players, at least one of whom he has declared as likely scum.

So I'm not sure what he's really trying to do here.

Side note: the whole "leave me alive til Day 7" makes perfect sense in a world where Foolmo is Godfather and knows his flip today basically would confirm Arti, FD, and MI, and along with [not quite confirmed but I like a lot as Town Corrik and Shad] puts too many confirmed town on the board for them to deal with.
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benjamin3740 posted...

Votes Mcgoats

[4] Foolmo - (Corrik), NewDonker, (Nana), Nana, ColZach, (Corrik), MI
[1] FD - (Nana), Death
[1] No Lynch - FoolMo
[0] DYL - (MI), (Corrik)
[0] Corrik - (Foolmo)

I'm not crazy, day ends tonight in 3:39, yes?
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Personally, one of the things that bothers me the most about Foolmo is that he insists on continuing to call himself a scanner and keeps acting like his role and the way it works should be treated the same as the other investigation claims.
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foolm0r0n posted...

Oh no you caught me and now I'm going to be lynched. What an unfortunate turn of events. I was so close to getting away with it.

I was suspicious of Arti already and felt him playing godfatherly, so a town scan on him didn't help me at all. If FD flips GF then obviously it's a good scan.

Donk is not playing like GF at all so I would've felt way better with a town scan on him. He could obviously be GF but I don't think so. I think he could be regular scum though.

This is also a downfall of town late-game, btw. You're punishing people for saying their thoughts spontaneously and being open. You're punishing people for changing their reads (or just adding to reads, not even changing them, see: my D1 Chris). If you attack people for anything less than a well-calculated scum-coached post, you end up mislying town day after day and then wonder how lowkey scum like Arti made it through the days.

We aren't even in the fucking end game holy shit
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foolm0r0n posted...

I've been suspecting him for a while, but his kind of super passive light play always suspects me. He was on the scum lynches D1-3, towards the backend. But he didn't vote Han at all D4. There's no real claims or anything that point to him either. That's the danger of the quiet player.

Anyways, only one of him or FD can be godfather, and I would rather go for FD first.

Why can't Donk (also on your scum list) or DYL (on your cautious list) be Godfather?
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foolm0r0n posted...

My Immortal posted...

But who do you think is scum?

I posted earlier about it
FD
Donk
Arti

I don't have very strong scumreads on others though, but I'm cautious of these
DYL
Death

And these don't feel towny at all but not very scummy either (replacements are weird)
Col
SE

The rest feel town

So process of elimination, his top 4 Town are:

Me
Corrik
MI (scanner)
Shad (scanner)
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foolm0r0n posted...

Nanahara715 posted...

"I'm scared Town is too stupid to win this game."

*Town has lynched 4 straight scum and the only technical ML is a modkill.

You're the one saying they're too stupid to lynch me D6/7. So which is it?

It seems like you just want me dead today, period. No logic at all behind it. Pure bloodthirst. Not scummy necessarily, just annoying.

I think Town is quite capable of winning, so we should lynch you today to put us closer to that goal.

Tbqh, and this isn't why I specifically want to lynch you, but I'd love to just wreck scum straight and not have the game last fucking forever. The longer a game goes on, the more likely it is a replace might be needed. Given we've had topics purge, any town player whom gets replaced benefits scum tremendously.

I never understood the "bloodthirst" argument. Like, you must lynch people to win the game. It's like you're playing Con Mafia. Literally when I tried to lynch someone in the mafia game I was playing during D1 the answer from everyone was "Oh he's bloodthirsty, let's lynch him" as if it isn't the entire fucking point of the game.
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foolm0r0n posted...

ShatteredElysium posted...

If you are town and we mislynch our way to Day 7, where would a Day 7 mislynch of you put us? Because with the suggested game balance, that puts us in an awful place.

Good point, I'm assuming NLs to D7 before you lynch me.

If we mislynch someone else today (vanilla or something) then lynch me D6. This will leave us with 1 more ML (and 1 more NL which like... let's use it??). This should actually be the way to go because MI will definitely be left alive tonight and I will GLADLY get lynched in MI's place.

LYNCH ME D6 YOU NERDS

^is this how Nana stayed alive as scum in that last game?

Here's how I stayed alive, if you really care:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/1016-forum-mafia/76305644?page=3
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foolm0r0n posted...

If your argument is that town is too stupid to lynch me D7 so it's risky to keep me alive then that's actually a fine argument

But then you must understand my fear of leaving a town that stupid to finish the game right?

To sum it up
1. Kill me by D7 or else. It can be D6 or even today if you realllyyyyy want to kill a scanner. Who else has made an ultimatum like while winning as scum?
2. No one scan me, I will be confirmed town when I die
3. Everyone needs to have strong scum reads before the end of today or else you will screw up the game

"I'm scared Town is too stupid to win this game."

*Town has lynched 4 straight scum and the only technical ML is a modkill.
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My Immortal posted...

Nanahara715 posted...

Counterpoint: Tournament of Villains/Heroes Mafia or whatever it was called- I was outed/scanned admitted scum and used the argument "Oh, compared to the other scum, I'm not as much as a threat, you can leave me until tomorrow" My plan was to just take it one day at a time. What happened "tomorrow"? We lynched someone else. And then the next day. And then Town was in a rock and a hard place because I'd lied about my role, and fast typing by Tange is the only thing that kept me from winning.

One of my favorite games ever.

I'll actually add that I was almost able to pull out a win because I was a secret triple-voter and kept that hidden until the last possible moment.

Scum having something like a one-shot DV that they've kept in their back pocket is NOT something out of the question.
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ShatteredElysium posted...

foolm0r0n posted...

Nanahara715 posted...

Who is to say you aren't going to just put forth more fake scans or have some other reason why you shouldn't "be lynched until Day 8(/9/10/oh no guys I won).

Me

Kill me D7

If y'all are too stupid to lynch me D7 it absolutely is not my fault

The problem I have with this is that you are pushing for town to kill you Day 7 when there's claimed power that could clear up your claim.

No, the problem is that you can't get to Day 8 without getting to Day 7. He's trying to baby step his way to the end.

Counterpoint: Tournament of Villains/Heroes Mafia or whatever it was called- I was outed/scanned admitted scum and used the argument "Oh, compared to the other scum, I'm not as much as a threat, you can leave me until tomorrow" My plan was to just take it one day at a time. What happened "tomorrow"? We lynched someone else. And then the next day. And then Town was in a rock and a hard place because I'd lied about my role, and fast typing by Tange is the only thing that kept me from winning.

Do. Not. Leash. Scum.
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This is why we need feminism.