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Scarlet I picked up a Dark X-men series yesterday at a comic store in Miami because it features Namor because of you. I will let you know what I think of it when I read it soon.
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Sir Chris

##unvote: sheep
##vote: scept
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Sir Chris

##vote: sceptile

Got Christmas with my baby at 8 let's wrap this up
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Sir Chris

No reason to have a long night. Christmas night isn't even a thing.
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Sir Chris

Going to defend mayfield here. Jackson apparently sucked given record before vs after.
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Sir Chris

Yeah lots of obvious stuff.

Also no reason not to be chill.
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Sir Chris

I don't talk to wolves, igcd.

*winks at Scare*

Anyway it doesn't matter we aren't murdering igcd anyway and I am 1/5 through a read through.
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Sir Chris

Post 283 from Sheep he says scare, igcd, red, and neab are all town. If he is scum rule of four and icgd is scum aww yeah.

Sheep and Corrik are probably unaligned, which is interesting as people don't like both of them to varying degrees today. It only took 320 posts for something of note to pop up.

Plum says he does not like the feel of Corrik's posts.

Oh, interesting at 337 Sheep is trying to help Plum out:

Corrik consciously attempts to act the same as both alignments. I think what Plum was trying to say is that it feels like Corrik is consciously trying to look like Town Corrik (what he did last game is very similar to how he would behave as town in general, most likely).

Hm. Does Sheep scum help scum Plum out here? I don't think so, actually. I think this is town Sheep who sees another person on someone he dislikes and is trying to help his push on Corrik. Good look for Sheep there.

IGCD asks Reg why he unvoted him when he said earlier that people weren't voting for him for any reason, just following Red. This is 341 and feels like scum ICGD is trying to keep distance from scum Regaro.

I will say this for my good friend Corrik, I really like 357 where he is like Plum with fake content day 1. Hmm. Because while scum corrik will fake he silliness sometimes Corrik pulls a Chris, tilts his head, and mumbles for a bit while doing mental math. I like that I can see the wheels turning here.

Yeah I am liking Sheep for town a bit here. He is talking about HB and is like 'yeah I think he is town plus he is voting you, who I think is scum, and most new scum don't bus' and I am like hm maybe Sheep does believe what he is saying. I will have to see how his progression goes but this has been alright so far.

Johnbob joins and likes Han, says Reg seems defensive but qualifies they haven't played together (which is true) and shades eaed but then shaes neab for voting ead right after Han made a case. Interesting.
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Sir Chris

Topic one had a few interesting things.

IGCD First thing he does is vote Reg, which I lean on scum on. Just given what I know if IGCD he would find it cute to vote for his scum buddy here. Slight lean though.

Reg responds with:

:also hi igcd you want to teach me how to play mafia since you have clearly mastered the art of day 1? =)

Comes off a little forced.

Going back to random.org from red:

16. Reg
18. Shaduln
7. HanOfTheNekos
12. masterplum
6. garetha200
8. Hbthebattle

Looks like 2/6 to me, so random.org respects mafia balance.

ICGD accuses red of being scum so there is no more spam.

Reg probably spews Scare town page 1 topic 1, not that this is a hot take.

Red votes IGCD. Yeah, so when observing before I entered I am going to give a spoiler: I knew red was town. There is hyped Chris and there is also hyped Red. Red got his favorite character and was for sure ready to hellmurder scum this game. Anyone who questioned him is just not versed on Red.

Also, by the way, why I didn't stress much when I was super buys. I knew you guys had a quality town leader while I caught myself up.

Scare is the first to go 'oh yeah reg is scum' yeah I know Scare is obviously town but still just noting it.

Also HB is obviously the town who had a stressful scum game and is like breathing a sigh of relief that he isn't scum again. He is just so light in tone. Again, obvious given votals but just pointing out there is more to his town game than his record.

Reg then votes against ICGD in the 'scum starting trouble against one another and means nothing in theory' Olympics.

Red, you said this to Garetha:

You can't do anything after studying. You are tired and should go to bed.

You killed the cute Phantom Thief. Why do you do this?

Luckily I checked this board because I completely forgot I signed for this - Plum.

Lol.

He then votes Corrik.

Also Red immediately points out why Plum's entrance is bad. Red is just on fire this day 1.

Through three pages I have not learned much.

Reg and ICGD are bickering but nothing really.

DYL dayvigs IGCD. The amount of scum distancing going on here is pretty epic, followed by a vote. Like if these interactions get serious maybe IGCD can be town but I bet they will flake off.

Actually reading the game now man Plum is such bad scum lmao. I can see why I had to fight so hard to get people to stick with the ed lynch for at least a day.

Chris note: if Eaed wants to be aggressive, give him a day or two. Poor guy just tried his best.

Page 6 now lots of town on town stuff, Plum continues to be vaguely bad.

God IGCD is the third vote on Ed and I go would he really? as scum. First two votes are fro mtown though so maybe.

265 Oh IGCD is playing the game, time to unvote! yeah not a good look for IGCD.
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Sir Chris

Hbthebattle posted...

Oh hey guys, I just remembered something

Did anyone get a message saying they were Roleblocked on N1? Kinda weird no one claimed that.

why would power claim blocked and out themselves?
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Sir Chris

Sceptilesolar posted...

Entertaining the possibility that Corrik is telling the truth for once, it is possible he received an incorrect result on his scan. I certainly did not act.

Of course you didn't act.

You weren't in the game, Plum was.
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Sir Chris

Of note here: There was never a real reason for anyone to claim in order for Plum to die today or tomorrow at the latest. One of the problems with board 8 towns is they give up information too easily when it's not needed. Plum had a fork in him after his play yesterday, even I who wanted to stick to the ed train, saw he claimed scum yesterday.

Sloppy, and it might not matter this game, but this is why scum wins too much here.

*back to my reading*
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Sir Chris

Sceptilesolar posted...

I think there is a miscommunication here, as in fact I am not scum.

Ok, NOW you can claim.

Anyway:

My original POE Of 9 was...

Death - Town, Dead
Plum - Scum, soon dead
DYL - Scum, Dead
Garetha - Town, MK'd for being idle
Shad - Town, confirmed via masonry

Which leaves 2-3 (we will say 3 so red doesn't have a fit) of these to be mafia if I am pure:

Sheep
Mzero
Johnbob
IGCD

Not taking corrik out of my town list for now but he's the weakest there.

I have hummus, I have redbull and water, and I got some doritos. BRB claiming town when I get back.
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Sir Chris

No that's actually reasonable and very pro town play, I just am grumbling due to personal reasons lol.

(I was so confused though brecause plum claimed "scum not roleblocker" when dyl flipped tbh)
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Sir Chris

red13n posted...

The inactivity was disappointing so we need to spice up the second part of the day.

Scum didnt bite and plum may have ragequit. Shad may have gotten excited and tipped our hand a bit early.

plum slot is just scum and I'm kind of sad that we burned the replacement there.

Do your digging now assuming he is scum.

Decided to fake it because discussion was moving to him too fast and didnt want to completely stifle the day out.

Oh. Damnit Red I was trying to be nice. But thank for the heads up right before I dig <_<.
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Sir Chris

Sceptile, hi. Chris here. Please don't claim.
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Sir Chris

Funny that's not an ed voter.
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Sir Chris

Sheep007 posted...

I trust Red, but I do not trust Plum (or his slot) whatsoever. The only thing stopping me from scumreading Chris instead of being mixed on him is that he's apparently very busy given the time of year and stuff, and that Terra was on the Reg lynch and had a few non-staged looking arguments with him (although he's certainly not incapable of that as scum). Chris himself has done nothing to show he's town and the only game of his I know where he was anything approaching this was his most recent scum game.

Corrik is probably not scum but I'm not 100% sure. Don't really like this development.

##Unvote til someone comes forward with more info.

Which game was this
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Sir Chris

Corrik posted...

DoomTheGyarados posted...

Corrik posted...

Trying to decide if Chris could possibly be scum after day 1 or is just so anti town it's disgusting this game.

Lol

Lol

Lol
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Sir Chris

Corrik posted...

Trying to decide if Chris could possibly be scum after day 1 or is just so anti town it's disgusting this game.

Lol
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Sir Chris

Sceptile do not claim.
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Sir Chris

Plum is not claiming.
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Sir Chris

I suggest votes on sheep
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Sir Chris

Also re this game I am not even top 5 lol. Barely done anything.
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Sir Chris

Corrik posted...

DoomTheGyarados posted...

Not being baited. Sorry. No reaction lol

Nothing to bait. I am just showing you up so hard this game.

LolScareChan posted...

##Vote: Corrik

Just give us your info if you actually have it

No
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Sir Chris

Not being baited. Sorry. No reaction lol
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Sir Chris

100% listen to red over corrik. Also why is shad still on plum.
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Sir Chris

Corrik does not know the flavor. Shad is confirmed. Neat.

##vote: sheep

Sheep or igcd tbh
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Sir Chris

Shaduln posted...

I want to murder IGCD based on those posts alone.

Are you masoned?
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Sir Chris

IfGodCouldDie posted...

DoomTheGyarados posted...

IfGodCouldDie posted...

DoomTheGyarados posted...

IfGodCouldDie posted...

DoomTheGyarados posted...

Okay well, if Shaduln is masoned are you okay with claiming? you vs sheep is the direction of the day if shad is town, bu if he isn't town no need.

No. I'll let myself be lynched before I claim my role.

Genuine question: Why do you play mafia in this way? What enjoyment do you get from (in theory) being a part of a town that is doing quite well but not helping the rest of town problem solve the game?

I'm not sure I understand the question.

Well, let's say Shad is confirmed to be town. I have been advocating, a bit slow paced due to my schedule, to solve the counterwagn on the scum day 1 so we can check that off the list and explore busses and off wagon votes independently from there. You and sheep would be the two last remaining people from that lynch to be not dead or confirmed to be town. So by claiming you let the rest of town resolve the train one way or another and we can move onto the next phase of the game.

No it doesn't. Because as town regardless of my role I would claim vanilla, and as scum I would claim vanilla, in either scenario I am still a very viable lynch candidate. I'd rather ride it out and hope to not get lynched.

Why would you hide power as town though in this game state? We already have two flipped scum and plenty of back information to go on (and believe you me, that will come) so you being lynched as anything is sub optimal. The trade off of you potentially being killed at night (not blocked, blocker is dead) is actually great. If you die red doesn't die. i don't die. Scare doesn't die. It'd be a good trade off for power vs narrowing focus.

I am trying to be less rude to people, as I know I come off as too blunt at times. I just want to put in front of you IF shad is town, and IF you are power, we probably murk sheep and regardless of his alignment end of day 3 the ed counterwagon is completely solved, which is pretty awesome.
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Sir Chris

IfGodCouldDie posted...

DoomTheGyarados posted...

IfGodCouldDie posted...

DoomTheGyarados posted...

Okay well, if Shaduln is masoned are you okay with claiming? you vs sheep is the direction of the day if shad is town, bu if he isn't town no need.

No. I'll let myself be lynched before I claim my role.

Genuine question: Why do you play mafia in this way? What enjoyment do you get from (in theory) being a part of a town that is doing quite well but not helping the rest of town problem solve the game?

I'm not sure I understand the question.

Well, let's say Shad is confirmed to be town. I have been advocating, a bit slow paced due to my schedule, to solve the counterwagn on the scum day 1 so we can check that off the list and explore busses and off wagon votes independently from there. You and sheep would be the two last remaining people from that lynch to be not dead or confirmed to be town. So by claiming you let the rest of town resolve the train one way or another and we can move onto the next phase of the game.
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Sir Chris

IfGodCouldDie posted...

DoomTheGyarados posted...

Okay well, if Shaduln is masoned are you okay with claiming? you vs sheep is the direction of the day if shad is town, bu if he isn't town no need.

No. I'll let myself be lynched before I claim my role.

Genuine question: Why do you play mafia in this way? What enjoyment do you get from (in theory) being a part of a town that is doing quite well but not helping the rest of town problem solve the game?
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Sir Chris

Okay well, if Shaduln is masoned are you okay with claiming? you vs sheep is the direction of the day if shad is town, bu if he isn't town no need.
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Sir Chris

So I am still out of it. Sheep claimed vanilla right? IGCD have you claimed?
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Sir Chris

Neablis posted...

DoomTheGyarados posted...

Why does day end 8 PM on Christmas eve...

Becuase everyone hates you chris

Hah it is looking like it. I will be watching my daughter (I claim her shh) opening a Nintendo switch then so yeah.

Sorry for being the worst but tbh you guys are slaying it gentle nudges!
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Sir Chris

Anyway my endless work torture is not over zzz but red vouching for plum is enough for today imo. So if death tried to recruit shad and failed he dies otherwise it should be igcd vs sheep and then the ed wagon is all nice and resolved and we can look at other things.
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Sir Chris

Why does day end 8 PM on Christmas eve...
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Sir Chris

oh well yeah if Shad lied about his role then obviously he can die in a fire. I assume death would have brought him on board so we'll see.

without having done much work given sheep and jb was in my list of 4 I obviously am ok with that.
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Sir Chris

Read tiebreaker. Then read him not accepting my town clear from it is
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Sir Chris

10. IfGodCouldDie
11. Johnbobb
13. MZero11
19. Sheep007

So either this is the exact scum team or one of my town cleaers (from very strong to hand waving for the sake of hand waving) is wrong. Hoho
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Sir Chris

Anyway plum has been bad but confirmed town red says to let it go. So we shall for now.

Ordering food
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Sir Chris

Oh I see what you mean. No I was just teasing <.<
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Sir Chris

benjamin3740 posted...

DoomTheGyarados posted...

Neablis posted...

Only sheep and shad haven't been on a scum train at final vote tally however.

Myself and igcd helped lynch dyl obviously

Bad news: I think you are scum.

See ben I am an evil bastard.

You think Reg was the scum extra kill?

See I dont. I think I prevented that. I think I prevented scum from claiming vig. Why would scum Neab counterclaim me? It's suicide.

I was just messing. Fly was the mafia vig lol
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Sir Chris

Neablis posted...

Only sheep and shad haven't been on a scum train at final vote tally however.

Myself and igcd helped lynch dyl obviously

Bad news: I think you are scum.

See ben I am an evil bastard.
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Sir Chris

Mmk. I find it likely there is still scum to hunt there but I won't bite my re read.

And yeah I show mercy on bad players like dyl and wanted more good analysis from you. Sorry I passed out obv I murder dyl over plum. It was my entire day 2 strategy.
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Sir Chris

Ben as I get my red bull and food remind me who is alive and voted ed day 1 sheep aside.
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Sir Chris

benjamin3740 posted...

Here's a thought. Chris played a certain card really early this game by saying that anyone on Reg is probably town. He made it clear to smart scum that they need to bus day 2 or get caught by Chris. If they do bus maybe they even get town cleared. Corrik is a smart player, aware of Chris' influence. Even a crafty player. He would have needed to bus. Maybe even kept Chris alive just to get town cleared by him.

So even IF Plum is town....I'm not liking that Chris asked for praise.

Ben you are a clever boy.
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Sir Chris

I have been working uber hard right before my break. I rock tomorrow too, but half day.

But yeah obviously legit busy. Come on lol.
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Sir Chris

Plum is pretty much scum lol
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Sir Chris

Every role has been a super combo role so far.

But sure assume 4.

And sure corrik is super evil whatever. My read through will tell me much.
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Sir Chris