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The internet says a lot of stupid things. That's why it can be stupid most of the time.

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Wild and their 3rd period collapses came back...

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Forceful_Dragon posted...

Niners are 7-0 in spite of our mediocre QB. I was hoping picking up Sanders would dramatically unlock the air game, and maybe it will, but not yet.

Hasn't Jimmy G had an undefeated record or some weird shit since going to the 49ers? How does that make any sense? Maybe not being injured to hell made all the difference this year, but the turnaround is pretty crazy.

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Probably iffy teams built by committee rather than paying half their payroll on one line. The problem is being good ALL the time would be almost impossible, because teams built by committee suck balls BECAUSE they don't have the lights out players.

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I live in Minnesota. Misery comes natural to their sports teams.

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AP and Coaches Polls out. Minnesota at #13.

*still doesn't believe it*

But I like it.

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I wasn't referencing Goodfellas. I was actually serious

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Did I say something funny?

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I work at the Mall of America, and while shops do close down, there's still a crazy amount of foot traffic there to make a "supermall" viable, even now. It's a tourist destination, not a shopping center. I find it strange to try and open it now, but hey, it might succeed.

It's the smaller suburban malls and minimalls that are dead.

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And Minnesota hasn't been championship relevant for 70 years...so yeah. I'll take "What the fuck they are undefeated and ranked?" right now.

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Can the Wild just score 5 every game please?

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I don't buy Minnesota as a threat (even if I yearn to so badly), because the schedule is a joke.

After all, you'll have to forgive my skepticism when the last time they were ranked this high or undefeated this far into the season, I was a fucking freshman.

I graduated seven years ago...I feel so old.

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That whole two game win streak thing died a quick death.

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Well, if the past draft lottery is any indication, the Wild could suck worse than the Hawks and still get leapfrogged.

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Why is that a thing, and who can I smack for inventing it?

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Why hasn't dueling "LISA NEEDS BRACES/DENTAL PLAN!" been done yet?

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TheKnightOfNee posted...

What is "scoring goals"

And moreso, what do you mean, "Wild scoring goals"?

That's what I'd like to know. What's winning a game mean?


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The Wild trying to dig out of the crazy hole by...SCORING GOALS.

Crazy how that works.

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The saving grace for Guerin and Boudreau (if any) is theyare on their first and last seasons respectively. This is all on Leipold grasping at straws too many years in a row


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Boudreau Watch: 1-6, still employed

Poor guy got signed years ago, and it has probably been a disaster for him. 3 GMs, no decent young players, and no end in sight.

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If this is their best...then good lord.

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Also, is it strange that all three members of the Shield, despite being the only main event guys other than AJ and Daniel Bryan to be made the past 4-5 years, all seem to be kneecapped by WWE in some fashion?

Roman: Pushed too fast, too soon
Seth: Unlikeable off camera, and now miscast while ON it
Dean: Always given 3rd wheel status, and "SUCH GOOD SHIT" to work with

I mean, you'd think WWE would be capable of making all three of them super interesting in different ways, and they just...can't.

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Rollins comes across as a top guy who can't carry himself as one, but is good enough that people don't QUESTION he belongs there in the main event. The issue is his mentality doesn't inspire any confidence, and is actively turning people off now. It's pretty sad that you have to be THIS bad for people to clamor for Roman back as a focal point. He's very thin-skinned, and the issue is we'd never know it if he'd just shut up.

He's his own worst enemy.

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Alvarez destroying WWE's incompetence like they deserve.

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TheRock1525 posted...

Tonight Seth Rollins burned it down.

Literally.

He set the Firefly Fun House on fire.

Everyone burns down Bray Wyatt's home.

I would love to know what world we operate where a serial killer/child warping kids show host would ever be seen as sympathetic, but WWE found a way. Vince is incapable of building babyfaces, so it's up to the fans to just decide which evil is the less shitty side and side with that one.

I would love to know how Seth found the Funhouse to begin with, but that would require thinking.

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Fair...*screams*

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Phew. Now the Wild can say they aren't as crap as the Sens...

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I've sworn off WWE on the basis that anything and everything they do will turn into shit. I'd chalk up both Heel Bayley and Shorty Gable to that same umbrella. Bryan and Dave spent a few minutes the other day talking about the whole pretense of WWE's output being a flat out parody of wrestling in general. A fake sport being taken as fake by the person who doesn't even want to consider it wrestling.

So not only is it fake, I watched a video the other day about a conference call about Vince calling WWE "too pro wrestling."

So uh...what great times we live in. I bet Finn Balor is happy to be back in NXT. God only wonders if that's what Cesaro is trying to do. If they can't get out of contracts, they can at least live in Florida.

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The Wild is the only pointless team. OOF>

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Wow...

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*Checks Hurricanes roster*

*Sees Haula leads team in goals, and Nino has 3 points in 5 games*

*Cries in corner*

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Shadow Dino posted...

Cough up leads four times does not lead to being a good team. I'm already declaring the Blackhawks a lottery team.

Just don't just 10 spaces like you did last time...

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0-3 start for the Wild...oof

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scarletspeed7 posted...

Pretty sure you're right. And I agree. There is this horrible trend now of being overly critical at the expense of something that is, on the whole, great.

Did you forget what this topic is like 99% of the time? Being overly critical of minutiae is like the default setting. That's why I always take time away, because I can't stand it half the time. Also, I didn't go into AEW with any expectations. The Bucks were good, but the announcers hyped them up as the best thing ever, not me. I've never seen them in a match before. Aside from WWE and Lucha Underground (and one night of MLW), I know jack shit about wrestling, and admit as much.

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Well, the only thing I've known about the Young Bucks for 5 years was, "SUPERKICK PARTY!," "MELTZER DRIVER," and "Best Tag Team in the World."

It's kinda hard to go into a match with the "best thing ever" and the result is just, "Eh. They were good" That's what having expectations does.

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I saw one match that didn't blow me away? The match wasn't designed for them, and I said as much. If I saw the Lucha Bros ladder match, maybe I'd have a better opinion of them.

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Anyway, did I hate it, no. There are things AEW does that I enjoyed. The main eventers and tag teams all look very solid. They have a distinct sense that while they COULD push Cody, the Bucks, Omega out the gate, they haven't, and given Moxley, Allin, PAC, others time to shine. The commentary is pretty solid, because I think they all work well off each other. The problem is for the gravitas Ross gives (that they made such a big deal about), Schiavone and Excalibur do all the leg work and sound like they know the product more thoroughly. I suppose it helps they don't shill anything except upcoming shows...

The camera work in ring is pretty good, though I'm not sold on the entrance music or pyro. Most of the songs sound alike, or it comes off as WCW-esque rather than WWE's more identifiable gratfiying themes. Jericho's being an exception since that was a Fozzy song I already knew.

What I appreciate is they don't feel like they "hate" pro wrestling like WWE seems to. I'm not going to just go whole hog and say everything works, but there's a looseness and sort of "dangerousness" feel that still comes across as professional. Moxley wrestles completely differently, and it doesn't follow the same format...thank Christ.

I suppose what I will say is the Young Bucks match tried to feel way different and more "epic" than everything else except the main event, but it just wasn't for me. Good tag team coordination, but nothing I couldn't see elsewhere. I just didn't buy the hype. It was more of a showcase for Private Party yes, but I'd rather see the Lucha Bros wreck shit (Because Pentagon and Fenix were just insane in LU as singles. Them as a team? NEED IT NOW) than a Young Bucks match going forward.

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I probably did, because I haven't been around...

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Lopen posted...

I'm saying I noticed problems too and they were ironically in the things you thought were done well like the Darby vs Havoc match (Darby didn't get enough time to shine to really come off as any sort of credible threat to Jericho)

Complaining about the stuff on the show I (and most people who watched the show I've interacted with) thought was the best stuff on it is ???

Jericho's facing Cody at a PPV. No one needs to buy Allin as the guy to beat him.


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Is that a case of Ross getting better, or having multiple people to bounce off of though? Schiavone sounds like he hasn't aged a day, and Excalibur is just amazing.

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Dude, the fuck is the problem? I'm saying AEW isn't some godly amazing counter culture answer to WWE. It has loads of problems, and I noticed them. I'm new to what AEW is offering, so what else am I supposed to do? Gloss over JR being an old fuck?

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Ross just sounded flustered all day, as if he had no confidence. The only time he did was when there was someone he knew in the ring. He knows Rhodes, Jericho, and Hager. I don't buy him talking about anyone else on the roster. He even flat out went, "Excalibur, care to explain to people at home about this Sakura lady?" Sure, his point was probably, "explain to the people at home," but it came off as if he didn't have a fucking clue either.

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The problem is they did so many fucking things when they don't have to. PP should have won off the Shooting Star Press, because that was the most impactful move of the match. What's better is it came after the Bucks had that crazy Sharpshooter spot. PP got the hope spot they needed. They got one of the Bucks out of the ring with the Hurricanrana/Cutter thing, and they could have finished off the other guy with the SSP. Why even need the roll up? It would have been a shock win either way.

My main concern is more that this was an opening match to a tournament (even with the Young Bucks), rather than saving a crazy finish for the finals. It got PP over in a big way, but finish with a flashy move, not the dumbass rollup spot.

*And lets be fair, New Day/Bar or New Day/Usos did a lot of this shit too. I'm not shitting on the Young Bucks due to name value. I've never fucking seen them till now*

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Finished AEW. The Moxley/Spears and Women's Tags weren't anything too special, but it was a marvel seeing Dustin Rhodes at 50+ doing way better in the ring than most people half his age. I get the feeling he is just absolutely incensed at WWE for doing very little with him when he can still go at a pretty high level. Compared to Jericho, he's got a lot of mobility left. He and Page were just an awesome tag team for one that was thrown together.

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That was more like it. Allin and Havoc fought JUST enough to make it back and forth, without getting too stupid with the ending.

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Main event...first round match...

Anyway, I loved Havoc's inset promo. Line of the night already from Schiavone. 'Half of him is dead. I bet all of him is dead now..."


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Loved the Jericho promo, but one of the LAX guys kept sticking his tongue out over and over and drove me nuts. He's like those dudes who swish their knives back and forth to each hand or something.

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So, I'm watching AEW for the first time.

I'm in awe of this Young Bucks/Private Party match, but I'm confused at how the fuck the Bucks are pulling off a huge Sharpshooter/Facebuster spot (after like 3-4 other false finishes), and the match STILL HASN"T FUCKING ENDED YET!

I love the match, but dude. Is this just what they do? I'm all for non-stop action like this, but there's a point where it becomes ludicrous. It's a first round match, not a final.The match ended on the rollup, but that Shooting Star was the perfect ending...

*Also, Jim Ross sucks and dragging Excalibur/Schiavone down HARD*

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https://twitter.com/saffronromiet/status/1181032708106899456

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