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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 282: Cancel Culture
Wanglicious
03/13/20 2:27:03 PM
#391
Suprak the Stud posted...


2) It has a very long incubation which was confusing doctors and the kits themselves are not as accurate as initially thought. So you would get a negative result, clearing them, they'd go back out in the world, but would then test positive on a follow up like five days later. Not because they "caught" the test again. But because the initial check failed.

this one is definitely true at least.
it's why quarantines went from 14 days to 24 days to 28 days, it was found to last 27 days at the longest. with that said even from people who are "cured" from it, positive results have been seen in their poop. so there's a definitely chance that some are still a carrier after being cured/it lays dormant and that "re-infection" is just the same one coming back. a lot more research needed to understand this and how permanent this virus is.

it is unlikely though, that's true. Japan had one case and while China did have one province with 14%, faulty testing could be partially responsible. they did retest everyone out of Wuhan a second go around but ever since Italy they've been much quieter so good info out of there has become a lot harder. that said, media will still occasionally report on things, though some of it's a bit old news.

like this one: infertility and testicular damage.
https://twitter.com/globaltimesnews/status/1237984761508810752

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 282: Cancel Culture
Wanglicious
03/13/20 2:16:08 PM
#387
Suprak the Stud posted...
I can double check, but it is not coronavirus that does that to you - it is pneumonia. It is an extremely common side effect of pneumonia to have long term lung damage. So mild cases aren't likely to cause organ damage, only those that eventually develop into pneumonia.

a bit of both.
coronavirus directly affects the lungs, unlike the flu, and can give you pneumonia through that.
it can give you pneumonia the same way the flu does. i don't think we've a clear idea as to how it does that or any of the other side effects - especially infertility - but the lung damage was known in early Jan. fainting one/neurological issues, that's newer. infertility i think was known in late Jan, maybe early Feb.

bear in mind we don't know how long term these long term effects are either. it's entirely possible that people will recover from some of the damage as their body heals. just not enough time to know.

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 282: Cancel Culture
Wanglicious
03/13/20 2:03:19 PM
#383
KamikazePotato posted...
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-recovery-damage-lung-function-gasping-air-hong-kong-doctors-2020-3

Neat

long term damage from coronavirus has been long established so you're definitely late to this one.

permanent lung damage, new heart issues, new kidney issues, new neurological issues, and infertility have all been documented long term effects. it doesn't always happen but the lung damage definitely is the most common of them all because this virus basically fills your lungs with mucus so thick, it practically glues your lung as you suffer from pnumonia. as a result, being on a ventilator for a short period of time isn't necessarily going to be enough. in terms of neurological damage, it does seem that the random fainting we saw in China may also have been a symptom of having coronavirus.

also what China considered "mild" cases would include any of the above. the level above that is literally organ failure.

do note that all of the harsher stuff is most likely from the stronger strain of coronavirus. the weaker one shouldn't give results that extreme but we've only found out about the two different strains for like two weeks now so a lot wasn't there.

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 282: Cancel Culture
Wanglicious
03/13/20 12:58:23 PM
#357
xp1337 posted...
Not Yang because IIRC his UBI implementation would not provide income to you if you were getting $1000 a month from the social safety net already (if you were getting something from it but not $1000/month it would cover the gap to get you to $1000 but no more) so the ones most disadvantaged would not be seeing any change in their situation. It was pretty much the most regressive implementation possible!

Which is why I opposed Yang's UBI despite being in favor of the idea generally!

i didn't expect someone to actually go through with this in politics but one person has openly stated it, is going to have something in the house, and believes it should stack.

it's this topic's favorite presidential candidate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpoPIAmDF8o


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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 282: Cancel Culture
Wanglicious
03/13/20 10:05:50 AM
#345
as a basic point of where trump failed it's priorities.
markets will go up and down. trying to take care of the market does not come first, you take care of people first and put them on the top of the issue. if people are fine, can believe they'll be fine, and see an infrastructure that'll work, markets will, eventually, recover to what they were.

but focusing on markets first is fucking dumb and rightfully what's behind everything smacking him right now.

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TopicThe Coronavirus Topic #2 - COMPLETE GLOBAL SATURATION
Wanglicious
03/12/20 5:39:05 PM
#318
yeah, we're going to be forced to shut things down later if we don't do it now and, more importantly, will not have a health care system remotely capable of handling all of the cases. infection of this thing doubles extremely fast, you go from 100 new cases to 1000 new cases in a bit over a week. it's not containable but if the process is slowed down it buys much needed time for everyone.

it does put a massive strain on the economy though, that's true. payroll tax obviously isn't helpful for people who will be out a job. i don't have a good answer for that, we're fucked either way. but at least this way lets everything be possible to get managed well, with the alternative being nothing will.

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TopicGot Dragon Quest 11 S today (Playthrough topic)
Wanglicious
03/12/20 5:35:33 PM
#56
brief update, will play more tonight most likely.

i ride to camp, turn it to night, and head out. as i roam along i see a giant monster, bit of an odd one to face but let's do-- THAT'S a Spitzfire? i see. it takes a long while and a bunch of dead monsters but i finally get Serena on the pep at the same time as the rest of us, Wild Side, beat. did it just before night was over and i'm already LV15. still, i can see the next camp but don't want to go there just yet. i loop around and two crab monsters randomly appear. i fight the first and heeey Metal Slime! i'm almost at the point where i could rush Metal Slash but fortunately it doesn't run away before i kill it, gaining over 2000 EXP and having all but Serena level up to 16. that should do it.

around this corner i find a treasure chest, as i go further down i find more shiny stuff, and that's the only treasure Erik said there was. so off to camp. Sylvando being serious is far, far better than his standard flippant, and his smartass is just as good as serious. if i get more of those, i'm in. i decide to reset my skill points for the first time so i can have Metal Slash. i was gonna aim for just one or two skills but if i gotta get rid of all of a category, alright. i do it and there we go, my two main killers have been rushed. while i'm at it i check Serena's grid out and get her Devil's Delight, so that's 2 people good for demons, 1 for dragons, 1 for metal. i check Erik out and... technically i can get Boomerangs to do heavy damage to slime and metal monsters without losing too much but i'm not sure i want to do that just yet. for now i think i'm fine and will keep prioritizing dual wield.

satisfied with this i rush on down the corridor, 0 treasures available. credit where it's due, Faris' attempt to run away was smooth. unfortunately for him monsters are less dumb than he thinks and there it is.

that's right Sylvando, you tell that prince to stop being a shit.
i am quite alright with talking shit like this. anyway, battle time. pretty easy and straightforward. Sap -> pummel him, find whether Frizz or Crack is better, continue beating him down, healing as necessary, until fight ends. 1440 EXP get, Serena learns Midheal now that she's 16, cutscene time.

...are we supposed to believe these chains by Sylvando are good enough to hold the monster down?
...can we test that theory out with this prince. kid, are you sure your dad just doesn't want you dead at this pace? fully agreeing with Sylvando here too, playing this farce is a dumb idea that's only going to get worse. i get to the edge of this area for a shiny object, a Yellow Eye, and with that run back to camp to save.


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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 282: Cancel Culture
Wanglicious
03/12/20 5:01:39 PM
#240
ChaosTonyV4 posted...
https://chicago.suntimes.com/2020/3/12/21175975/bernie-sanders-joe-biden-coronavirus-covid-19-illinois-democratic-primary-presidential-election

A killer debate + Coronavirus scaring away olds means Bernies still in this bitch

and people call me out for wording.


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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 282: Cancel Culture
Wanglicious
03/12/20 4:45:26 PM
#231
considering this thing is going to kill more people than 9/11, they'd better stay closed for a while.


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TopicThe Coronavirus Topic #2 - COMPLETE GLOBAL SATURATION
Wanglicious
03/12/20 10:55:44 AM
#275
genuinely convinced that tucker carlson's segments on it have made trump take it more seriously. it's the only show he watches start to finish and he takes that guy's opinion very seriously. would be what, the third time tucker says something and flips trump's stance?

also you should've definitely been with 2-3 weeks worth of food by now. if you haven't, you spent a bit too long a time in the just a flu camp or something, definitely get your bread, canned food, rice, beans, meat, frozen foods, etc.

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 281: Wuhan Flu to the Polls
Wanglicious
03/11/20 11:37:03 AM
#466
trump doesn't need to do that.
he can just run ads of Beto literally saying it, pointing out Biden explicitly said he wants Beto in charge of guns.


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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 281: Wuhan Flu to the Polls
Wanglicious
03/11/20 11:04:16 AM
#463
he's going to do the exact opposite considering NRA is heavily grassroots. you can't win suburban votes with that, which is the base he just beat sanders with.

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 281: Wuhan Flu to the Polls
Wanglicious
03/11/20 10:58:44 AM
#461
considering trump's getting ridiculous turnout in the republican primary, they're very energized.

and they'll become even more vocal as biden talks guns. biden is going to lose a good chunk of people on the idea of gun control. as a basic tip, don't put the guy who went "HELL YES WE'RE TAKING YOUR AR-15" in charge and, when pressed by a voter on it, don't dismiss him. it's one of the easiest avenues of attack.

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TopicThe Coronavirus Topic #2 - COMPLETE GLOBAL SATURATION
Wanglicious
03/11/20 10:11:18 AM
#171
Raka_Putra posted...
Rising number of cases in Indonesia daily. From like 26 yester-day to 37 to-day. I am concerned about catching it unknowingly and transmitting it to my parents.
Office buildings and malls are doing the temperature check thing, and some nicer eateries equip their servers with masks.
But many events are still going. Barely any school is cancelled.
I am a bit worried about the trajectory. Our government is trying their hardest to prevent economic slowdown...
They subsidize plane tickets and try to cover up cases, particularly those in Bali (our most popular tourism destination).
First recorded/reported fatality today. Who knows how many there will be by the time this blows over.


it'll go up for a while. research/genetic analysis is saying the rate of infection doubles every 4-6 days. it's ranged a little depending on time period and location but that's the general rate.

meanwhile, Merkel has said Germany should be ready for 60-70% of the nation getting it, a very different response from most leaders.

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TopicThe Coronavirus Topic #2 - COMPLETE GLOBAL SATURATION
Wanglicious
03/11/20 12:29:25 AM
#164
your college wants to kill all of you dumb enough to keep going.


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TopicThe Coronavirus Topic #2 - COMPLETE GLOBAL SATURATION
Wanglicious
03/11/20 12:06:19 AM
#160
lotm, you already know this guy's just trolling.

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 281: Wuhan Flu to the Polls
Wanglicious
03/10/20 11:51:59 PM
#384
the only problem with that is that it relies on the democrats actually understanding what it means when you don't vote as opposed to blaming bernie again.

it's never their fault.


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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 281: Wuhan Flu to the Polls
Wanglicious
03/10/20 11:33:43 PM
#379
oh yeah, contest season means alt season, doesn't it.


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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 281: Wuhan Flu to the Polls
Wanglicious
03/10/20 11:29:30 PM
#377
it is kind of amazing how this race circled back right to the beginning. it was biden is inevitable, bernie vs biden, a lot of filler in the middle, and we're back to biden is inevitable.

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 281: Wuhan Flu to the Polls
Wanglicious
03/10/20 11:17:30 PM
#370
well, at least bernie is likely winning north dakota.
...idaho, probably not.
washington, nobody knows.


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TopicThe Coronavirus Topic #2 - COMPLETE GLOBAL SATURATION
Wanglicious
03/10/20 11:12:28 PM
#153
my old college got a confirmed person with it and will be closed tomorrow.

they were on campus one class last week, didn't develop symptoms until Saturday, but the important thing is that this is midtown Manhattan. "Whoops."

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 281: Wuhan Flu to the Polls
Wanglicious
03/10/20 11:05:02 PM
#365
not sure if primary or general. saw it from a NYT analyst and was stunned by that result because turnout in an election year is multiple times greater.

meanwhile biden just gave his victory speech, already thanking bernie for his campaign and that they should unite and work together. bernie is not expected to give a speech tonight.

washington and idaho incoming.


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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 281: Wuhan Flu to the Polls
Wanglicious
03/10/20 10:54:46 PM
#361
dude, for your main demographic to get outdone by the fucking midterms is beyond abysmal. nobody votes in midterms.

now it's possible this is due to turnout, michigan is blowing way past 2016. but that percentage shouldn't be close.

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 281: Wuhan Flu to the Polls
Wanglicious
03/10/20 10:51:27 PM
#359
....oh wow, the missouri results.
bernie is clinging to 15%. biden is over 80%.


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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 281: Wuhan Flu to the Polls
Wanglicious
03/10/20 10:48:55 PM
#358
<30 vote is down 2% from the midterms in michigan.
that is genuinely impressive.

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TopicHelp Chris with his crusade of Anime and JRPGs due to election sadness.
Wanglicious
03/10/20 10:39:28 PM
#22
for anime, did you see Vinland Saga?
because i'd totally recommend Vinland Saga. modern classic.

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 281: Wuhan Flu to the Polls
Wanglicious
03/10/20 10:38:17 PM
#355
nah, bernie should make everyone see joe at a debate or town hall or whatever else.
if he doesn't do it, trump will.

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 281: Wuhan Flu to the Polls
Wanglicious
03/10/20 12:41:24 PM
#201
all executives love using more executive power. bush did, obama did, trump is too, and biden would as well. the only way to take away that authority is a congress and public that checks them - both need to be in line with actively limiting the powers of that branch.

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 281: Wuhan Flu to the Polls
Wanglicious
03/10/20 12:31:56 PM
#196
biden is absolutely authoritarian, what.
for that matter, bernie's the most authoritarian of them all. a nationalized government policy is authoritarian by its nature and he supports plenty of them along with government mandates on top of businesses. a trump reign with a blue congress results in the least authoritarian situation because that's the least government can get done.

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TopicGot Dragon Quest 11 S today (Playthrough topic)
Wanglicious
03/10/20 12:27:17 PM
#54
oh, metal slimes already exist? good to know. haven't unlocked metal slash yet but soon enough, i'm sure. i lost a chunk of stuff i wrote somehow following that. but i'll try to recreate it a bit...

we go to the circus as the Great Sylvando performs. i already want to punch him in the face. as the prince talks to us in a pretty godawful outfit, he reveals that yeah, it's body double. guy can't ride, figures i can, and even though i think Erik looks more like him than i do, guess it's me. after he's done talking he leaves and the Great Juggler looks at the prince leave. not sure if he heard everything but i'll assume he did so the question is whether he's a decent enough guy or if he's gonna be someone i need to beat up.

we're then invited to sleep at the inn, automatically do so, and out the door i go. before doing anything else i decide to work on my equipment. hitting LV14 meant my tiny forge turned orange, all it meant this time was extra focus. well, okay. i make every item that i possibly i can, expanding my perfection pearls and making everyone better. for myself, i switch to Greatswords again because it's a +16 attack, i'll take that right now. once done i go to the shop and buy the Dancer's Costume, making Serena my highest defense character as she wears a damn good outfit. hell yeah, good decisions all around. done with it all, i'm off to the stable.

so Faiz got sick, eh? i take it the Not So Great Sylvando had a part in this. helping me or trying to cut a deal that'd hurt me? well, moving on.
go in room, talk to prince Faris.
wear armor that covers me completely.
ride horse, try to run over children but alas, they're more powerful than wild monsters. i finally then go to the races and there's the Great Sylvando, taking the place of the last guy. just so happens to, i'm sure, with a super feathery horse. we race and goddamn he's fast, i take 2nd.

...hm.
cutscenes continue, Faris is happy, he can't ride, just as we're doing the switcheroo Sylvando runs into us. his name is so long that i hate typing it but if i type Syl i'm thinking of Sill from Rance or Sylveon, and he's not wearing enough pink to earn those names. Syl-do, Syldude, 'vando? whatever. he puts on obvious theatrics to express his shock of what happened with the prince, is clearly into my riding skills, and cutscene eventually ends.

so reload.
reget all equipment stuff.
save.
get back in the race. imma take first away from your feathery ass horse. aaand... i do! lots of "hit Y" but hey, it worked with plenty of room for error. the difference here is... a... single line of the prince going "wow i can't believe you won!" or whatever? ...that's it? dammit, at least throw money at me or something.

and with that i'm back to the info i lost. memory is still quite good. as i talk to my party, Serena brings up a good point: Sylly has his skills in the circus, skills in riding, it's a bit odd. talking to NPC, they've the same opinion too, and some bets that lost badly. wait, the racetracks are open? before going to the sultan's place, doing that. a guy offers to sell something called Golden Reins for 10k. i don't have that technically but i can make it without much issue, i'm sure. there's an easy and difficult level, so let's do Bronze Cup easy first.

...easy indeed. slime earrings get.
hard next. takes a couple tries but i get 1st.

silver next.
i see there's a shortcut in this but it's a bit hard to do. i try not to use it, get 2nd. fuck it then, let's do it. after a few times i get my lap down to 20s so okay, that's fine. only a bronze and silver cup for now so i go for hard too. 3rd try i make it and am JUST shy of Champion's Challenge time but i'll accept that for now. partially because i don't want to bankrupt myself, partially because i don't have anything to gain from this after getting the Assassin equip. these cards feel less like equips and more like they're for something else. the names are suspicious too, Trickster? Assassin? these class cards perhaps? anyway, to the Sultan's! time to find out if Faris is going to screw me over.

a beast appears?
oh it's probably the one from the book. cool, let m--
my man, are you fucking nuts?

"hey my boy just won a race and plenty of my best knights have been killed by this thing LET ME SEND MY SON TO DO THIS."

yeah yeah, i'm doing this for you too. i go down to his room and his begging is amazing. i honestly don't blame Faris for this one. he's surprisingly self-aware that he got himself into this mess, i didn't know he was a mellinial. i also give mad props to the VA here, the sniveling whining is on point.

i say yes because i didn't save in a while and i'm getting convinced that i'm not getting this Rainbough thing ever. next time it's going to be the guards from Geros' kingdom or something.

BITCH YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE A SWORD AND HAVE NO ARMOR HOW ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO FAKE THIS.
oh cutscene he has a sword.
no armor.
now okay, maybe his outfit is like the dancer's uniform Serena's got right now, which is fantastic defensively and aesthetically. buuuut alright, looks like Sylvando's joining me. this guy also drops the bullshit with me as he asks to join, maybe i'll take a liking to him after all. i see the game's pattern is NPC -> full party member, alright. it's still daylight so i don't have my pep bullshit going but alright, i'll get that next side quest done in this outing.

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 281: Wuhan Flu to the Polls
Wanglicious
03/10/20 10:18:11 AM
#172
yeah, the phrase "dishonest Republican talking point" is disingenuous. a talking point doesn't have a party - it's an idea or phrase. the only purpose it serves is a form of "othering," if you don't like the idea then clearly it's because they're from/they're listening to the other side. if the point is dishonest or wrong, it's better to mark it as that.

FFDragon posted...
Windex 2020

i legit expect the write in vote for "Corona" or "Coronavirus" to make it be the 3rd highest vote.

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 281: Wuhan Flu to the Polls
Wanglicious
03/09/20 1:40:43 PM
#3
...i don't think that sentence or image does what you want it to do.

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 280: Sleepy Joe Gets Woke
Wanglicious
03/09/20 1:26:20 PM
#489
bernie shouldn't drop out regardless of results just yet.
let them do one debate, one on one, let the following states vote.

if he still gets beat then yeah, drop.

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 280: Sleepy Joe Gets Woke
Wanglicious
03/09/20 12:33:22 AM
#409
no i'm talking about the data breach on resetera (what i generally call neo neogaf) from the past couple days. usernames, passwords, emails, admins trying to hide it even as one of the people with the personal info posted on multiple different hacked accounts. this ain't the topic for it but it shouldn't take much effort to find the story on twitter.

for what it's worth, hope you ain't using the same password on that site as other ones.

edit: but yeah, going there is just trying to hurt yourself. that bubble doesn't represent much but they are fun to laugh at.

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 280: Sleepy Joe Gets Woke
Wanglicious
03/09/20 12:23:19 AM
#405
you've always payed way too much attention to neo-neogaf. if you're gonna do that then just focus on the more amusing stuff - like the current data breach the admins are trying to cover up.

but to stay on topic there: it would definitely be good for republicans to take this thing more seriously. especially since it ain't going away in the warmer months.

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 280: Sleepy Joe Gets Woke
Wanglicious
03/09/20 12:19:04 AM
#401
StealThisSheen posted...
If you search for "wuhan flu" and "coronavirus" on Google between January 1st and early February, you get almost the exact same dates, which are late January, so...

I'm not sure what you guys are arguing

i don't either!
his objection is literally that a top of my head guess is potentially off by a week and everything else is invalidated, however it's pushing two months instead, despite the fact that two months ago literally nobody was officially declared dead.

oh yeah, in terms of naming conventions, that WSJ article had this in it:

As for the virus itself, the International Committee on Taxonomy of Viruses is now dubbing it SARS-CoV-2 (for severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2). The journal Science reports that the WHO isnt happy with that choice, with officials opting for the virus responsible for Covid-19 or the Covid-19 virus instead.

goddamn do scientists somehow suck with naming conventions.
Wuhan SARS, Wuhan Flu, Wuhan Virus, etc? easy to understand, thanks docs and people. there's some slang terms that came up here - Wu Flu i mentioned but i think shit like bat soup virus also existed around here. definitely is the time period when the bat soup memes hit though.

Coronavirus? technically accurate, still easy to understand, thanks docs and people.

SARS-CoV-2, Covid-19? what are you doing. especially that first one, how many hyphens do you need to suck the soul of this this.

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 280: Sleepy Joe Gets Woke
Wanglicious
03/09/20 12:09:24 AM
#399
i don't know who Paul Gosar is at all. if he's racist, okay? not my guy, not representing me at all, not something i'm aware of or really care to be. if he's pointing out Wuhan purposefully to point out China's the reason we're in this mess i mean... they are and it's something the rest of the world is going to remember them for. right now i'm just confused in what world red exists in; like by his own words his objection is that my timeline may be off by a week and this makes it "not even close," that's just incredible. like it's really easy for me to pull up straitstimes articles, one of Singapore's major newspapers, and just go through it there. or just do a month back check on google and still see articles across different countries that call it the Wuhan Flu or reference it as that. so for me it's a non issue that he's just trying to act high and mighty over with a "gotcha!" that doesn't make sense.

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 280: Sleepy Joe Gets Woke
Wanglicious
03/08/20 11:59:34 PM
#396
and lol, two months WHAT.
two months ago there were zero official deaths from it.

zero.
and mainstream media depends greatly on what you're defining as "mainstream."

if you mean mainstream media that was covering the early breakout, read by Chinese, no. this includes media in China itself that would directly call it Wuhan Flu in English variants.

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 280: Sleepy Joe Gets Woke
Wanglicious
03/08/20 11:52:29 PM
#393
no, the Wuhan was dropped because WHO doesn't designate areas with it.

https://archive.is/DEraW

WSJ, paywalled normally, not when archived.
still, Feb 21st, which is when the hyphenated name came out of them.

For the official name of the disease caused by the virus, the World Health Organization has settled on Covid-19, short for coronavirus disease 2019. While the outbreak is thought to have emerged from an animal and seafood market in Wuhan, China, health officials have avoided naming the disease after its place of origin. Having a name matters to prevent the use of other names that can be inaccurate or stigmatizing, WHO chief Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus told reporters earlier this monthalthough that hasnt stopped people from giving the disease names like Wuhan flu or even Wuflu.

it's almost like what i'm saying is what it is..

red13n posted...


The other part was just to distinguish that wang's timeline was not even close to accurate.

Most official sources picked it up around the same time we had it, which was late January

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Wanglicious posted...
Wuhan Flu because that's generally what we all called it until... early Feb, i'd say?

your argument is, quite literally, that "late January" and "early Feb" are not even close.
are you just purposefully being dumb and antagonistic.

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 280: Sleepy Joe Gets Woke
Wanglicious
03/08/20 11:45:47 PM
#387
i mean it's entirely possible he's pointing to China with it but at the same time that's perfectly reasonable to do since they are the ones responsible for this mess, either due to their market, their labs, or both.

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 280: Sleepy Joe Gets Woke
Wanglicious
03/08/20 11:43:13 PM
#384
no, i linked to it to prove it was still being used in common language even in mass media.
because it was. that article comes up pretty early and it's right in the URL. Wuhan Flu ain't offensive, just not as accurate as it could be.

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 280: Sleepy Joe Gets Woke
Wanglicious
03/08/20 11:39:45 PM
#381
like really this doesn't demand much, red.
quick google news check setting things back a month.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8022065/Hit-Wuhan-flu-diggers-diamonds-James-Bond-victims-coronavirus.html

Hit by Wuhan flu: How diggers, diamonds, high street fashion and even James Bond are facing shortages and losses due to the coronavirus

dated: 2/19. this is probably one of the last major articles that stuck with that name.

https://www.businessinsider.com/china-coronavirus-whistleblowers-speak-out-vanish-2020-2

among the people there goes the highest profile citizen's journo who, in something that we just know was after Feb 1st:

"This pneumonia we see today, this Wuhan flu, it's both a natural disaster and a man-made problem," he said in one of his videos. "That's because they've covered up the facts. They muffled Li Wenliang for telling the truth."

i just find it incredibly weird that you're trying to pull a gotcha on something that's so easy to find over what would literally be a week. like what are you trying to do.

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 280: Sleepy Joe Gets Woke
Wanglicious
03/08/20 11:29:09 PM
#376
red13n posted...
someone made that post on January 25th.

You know who that is?

i mean if you're trying to say that i was ahead of the curve on the naming convention, thanks i guess? the webmd article corrik posted was written 4 days later.

for what it's worth, i'm still resistant to COD-19 or whatever because that just checks all my euphemism boxes and i refuse to do that.

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 280: Sleepy Joe Gets Woke
Wanglicious
03/08/20 11:26:08 PM
#372
Corrik7 posted...


"Something Far Deadlier Than The Wuhan Virus Lurks Near You"
https://www.webmd.com/cold-and-flu/news/20200124/something-far-deadlier-than-the-wuhan-virus-lurks-near-you#1

^ They changed the title of their article. Google it. From Wuhan Virus to Coronavirus.

it's already in the URL, so yeah, no need to do extra research. Wuhan Flu, Wuhan Virus, etc were the standard.
like it's only March 8th. "Coronavirus" probably hasn't even been the main term for a month and it's spent twice that with direct relation to Wuhan.

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 280: Sleepy Joe Gets Woke
Wanglicious
03/08/20 11:20:49 PM
#369
yeah, i don't have any reaction towards Wuhan Flu because that's generally what we all called it until... early Feb, i'd say? coronavirus became the more common term mid to late Feb as it was more accurate and an easier way to distinguish it since at that point we were looking at South Korea and Italy especially.

Wuhan SARS was the initial name it has with Lee, the main doctor who died, that'd be its December name. early Jan it was more specified to being Corona and the Wuhan Flu, with some variations therein (e.g., Wu Flu). one reason why it's less accurate is because at the same time of this outbreak Wuhan got another strain of the bird flu so yeah, shifted after.

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 280: Sleepy Joe Gets Woke
Wanglicious
03/08/20 11:03:55 PM
#355
no people stopped calling it Wuhan SARS because corona was more accurate for the strain. racism's got nothing to do with people calling it the Wuhan Flu or coronavirus or whatever else, it's just not as useful. it's literally 1-2 months that the vast majority of people have been aware of it, citing anything as a thing of racism or xenophobia there is just silly.

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 280: Sleepy Joe Gets Woke
Wanglicious
03/08/20 10:51:01 PM
#352
...uh, calling it the Wuhan virus has been a thing since it started since it came out of Wuhan. hell, it was initially called Wuhan SARS.


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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 280: Sleepy Joe Gets Woke
Wanglicious
03/08/20 10:38:12 PM
#346
Suprak the Stud posted...


(Biden +3 in Washington, which is like Sanders best state left. ALSO Medicare for all polls 75 support/strongly support to 20 oppose/strongly oppose IN THE SAME POLL)

that's honestly surprising.
like i'm not getting invested in any polls of any kind right now because it's settled on tuesday for these states. personally i'm of the opinion that he's getting one or two states, biden wins the rest. if he exceeds that, i'll give him more credit and thought, but that's the expectation that should be had going into the debate.

coronavirus is not helping bernie at all by the way, so that can help explain the difference. people do like the ideas of M4A but "let's change the entire healthcare system when we're in the middle of a pandemic" is absolutely not going to work. some ideas, like free testing, absolutely would. but that's adjusting the system for an emergency, not changing everything. it is the absolute worst time to pitch mass reform and that might explain Washington.

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TopicGot Dragon Quest 11 S today (Playthrough topic)
Wanglicious
03/08/20 1:40:14 PM
#52
showed pass, entered Gallapolis region.
2 treasures.

first fight i pick in here has 5 enemies, so i see this is going to escalate. fortunately we get over 300 EXP out of it so goddamn, that's quite a lot right now. as i walk around the sand waterfall being held back by invisible walls from jumping into it, i find myself what i was looking for:

treasure #1: mini medal
there's also some more ore to mine here (got iron/copper/gold) and earlier i had cut one of the tree things too. so y'know, walking around getting goodies getting levels. Brownies in particularly are solid EXP and Veronica levels up to 13, getting Fizzle and Bang. i get to the first camp in the wild - yes it's way past the city but i figured let's do it - and find myself a red Ticktock. ahh, this is making more sense. this one lets me go to Moonahan and he disappears. alright. with that in mind i go back as a cactus monster takes me by surprise. Fizzle, not to be confused with Frizz, is not a fire spell but an anti-magic one. Bang though i remember well enough. ...still, it's cactus so i'm trying fire first. i then try Bang, half the damage. yeah alright. i run into another bunch on purpose this time, now understanding the difference of how they look in the wild, and Serena levels up, learning Accelerate. yeah i'm gonna use that and she's not using that spear after all, that was entirely a waste. with that, i get into town.

oh hey we're betting on horses? i actually have a little experience with that in real life, friend of mine taught me the basics of it. meanwhile i find out that Erik is the responsible one and Veronica is a gambling addict. as i walk around town a bit i go in the well, 2 treasures. i find a locked gate, go to the other areas, pick up a shiny, go break a few barrels, 1 treasure. ...okay, weird. i run into a girl wanting to give me some puff puff, hell yeah i'm in.

but she wants us to go in her place, alright.
then wants me alone, uh.
then wants the lights off, this is clearly not a good idea.
but i'm the hero and the hero must push forward against all odds and there we go! puff puff get. and it's by an S&M guy in town who's her dad, oh dear. the party will never know of this side adventure. fortunately the place has barrels and pots to break so i do, get a few items, and leave. before i buy anything i'm gonna explore first of course, though i see this city can make me go broke real easy.

fortunately the inn has a recipe book for lamp posts, wizard's staves, tricky turbans, Fizzle retardant blouses, and enchantress's gloves. goddamn that's a lot in one book. i also raid the inn's closet and get myself a Turban, success!

there's a guy with a quest for a golden globule, found on a rare monster that gets mixed with a group of cactus. so this race boils down to Prince Faris and Faiz? i run into the circus and find a treasure chest! ...empty. booooo. lots of talk about the Great Sylvando, no clue if he'll matter at all yet. i find another quest giver, wants me to use a Wild Side pep power, the one that lets Erik go twice. alright, i can do that and combine it with the cactus one to get both done in one go. in a nearby house a butler tells me about finding a rare book so i check the shelf, read it, and raid the closet for 70 gold - all right in front of him. smooth job there, butler. as i continue exploring i find an Angel Bell material item in the church, seems rare right now, and hidden in an alleyway a treasure chest with a Mini Medal inside. woo. i go from day to night to day again doing this, so off to the Sultan first. but before i go in lemme see...

Lamp Post, Wizard's Staff - both need a Lamplight and i've only got one. latter also gives free Fizz when used as an item. i'll probably make one of these along with one of the other equipments, though it's clearly driven towards the mage twins.

there are so many cats in this place, goddamn.
oh yeah, 9 pieces of treasure. i steadily find out that includes the items in pots and closets. find a treasure chest: Iron Broadsword. the game also tells me "i'm not ready yet" when it comes to reading a book in Prince Faris' room, so i guess i'll be here later. i thought it might've just been the prince but no, sultan's room is also fair game to enter. ...what. i go in his room, talk to the maid, raid the closets as she tells me something something private in a speech bubble. 2 treasures left. i go down, break a few barrels, 0. success at last. as i look through, i've got the accessory item for a bunny girl outfit, that's good. goes to Serena as i go up the stairs and cutscene.

Sultan practicing his speech. the prince comes out saying he's done with his training. can i punch him? the prince mentions the Rainbough, so alright. but first... in this upstairs area, 4 treasures.

right behind the Sultan: 1500 gold treasure chest. LOL
i break all the pots i can find, 0. also find myself an Oasis Water, which was needed for some of the recipes. anyway i go down to meet Faris in his room. ...he wants me to be his body double, doesn't he? he says he'll meet me at the circus tent this evening, somehow believing that our convo will be kept private in such a public place. but alright, sure. 15 treasures, hm. i run around, breaking treasures on the regular, bring it down to 9, and head back out. might as well beat some cactus monsters.

0/3 first time around for the golden ones in a section with 3 of them. i leave, come back, try again. found one in the second batch. these things are quite tanky and i manage to steal from it pretty early, thankfully, to get myself a Golden Ore. ...uh this better not take multiples because that's gonna suuuuck. also i love the way Veronica goes "Frrrrrriiiz!", it's adorable.

oh good, fight ends and i happen to find one, nice. i start heading back with a little bit of grinding and i realize Serena's gonna have the hardest time to pep up, isn't she? that quest is gonna involve some luck right now. for now, Veronica gets to LV14, learns a new spell, and i give her MP regen after combat. also, Bang sucks. fortunately i just manage to get the 3 neccessary peppers going and Wild Side gets used as i steal a Chimera Wing. also is the fight Serena hits LV14, learns Woosh, and that's good enough for me, let's go back to deliver the two quests. that's also an offensive spell so hell yeah.

...oh i didn't do the quest right.
he wants me to slay a Spitzfire with it in the Celestial Sands. ...well that's more annoying to have to do -_-. Trickster item also doesn't look at all impressive but whatever. for now i'm just gonna forge some stuff as the thing was orange again, i leveled up. i make a bunch of new items, go back to greatsword, and pimp out Veronica with her new equipment. not in that way. oh yeah, even though i'm using the Greatsword n
TopicPolitics Containment Topic 280: Sleepy Joe Gets Woke
Wanglicious
03/08/20 11:45:24 AM
#252
hey now i'm an equal opportunity pisser.
bernie had a heart attack and that's still legit one of my biggest concerns and a concern that's going to be pushed hard if he makes a comeback. i'm firmly in the camp that considers the VP selection to be the most important thing this election and i don't think i'm going to be the only one as we've got a pandemic that's got a strong kill rate with the elderly.

similarly i'm all for taking all the joking comments on CPAC having coronavirus using their exact same words and attitude when it's confirmed at Bernie and Biden rallies too.


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