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TopicCanada could be in ISOLATION until the end of MAY!! Do you agree with that??
wolfy42
04/01/20 7:00:03 PM
#32
FrndNhbrHdCEman posted...
Youre correct. Zeus does not and has not worked for a while.


You know, sometimes people have a good reason to not be working anymore, and often they really feel bad about it as well. I have worked my whole life, since I was a kid actually, and can't anymore. I don't even take social security nor disability even though I qualify (I don't want to waste resources when I don't need the help).

It's really not nice to make fun of people who are not working though. I know alot of people don't like their jobs, but trust me it's better to have a job, a purpose and feel like you are accomplishing something as apposed to just being
at home etc most of the time trying to entertain yourself or keep occupied.

I at least used to volunteer but now I can't even do that.

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Glowing Elephant "Stonehedge was a sex thing."
TopicSo I'm building a DnD campaign for tomorrow night!!
wolfy42
04/01/20 6:56:05 PM
#3
Might be able to add you to ours. I'm hoping we will use zoom like the previous games we have had. That lets me draw maps and hold them up for players to see etc. I have not used roll 20 but have not heaad great things about it.

I will look into maptools.

We tried playing last week just on discord but it didn't work very well at all. This is also my first time DMing since 2nd edition lol....so yeah it's been awhile, and now i'm trying it online as well. I used to do voices for NPCs, and use minutures for combat, but online that is just going to be too hard (may still do some voices though).

This first run tomorrow should be pretty short, maybe 2-3 hours, just running through a cavern system. Got the initial town (tavern/Armory etc) set up, along with the enterance to the caves. Problem with quick quests like this is it's hard to add too many puzzles or traps (which I like to do) because it's so short. Not like you can have more than maybe 1 puzzle in a cave system that is only 20 rooms or so. Probably just do a puzzle to get into the treasure room (along with having a note inside by a goblin asking why they are not USING the magical equipment in the treasure room instead of just guarding it....maybe along with the skeleton of a goblin nearby hehe).

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Agatha "Your naked and they are nuns, it's not your eyes they're not looking at."
Glowing Elephant "Stonehedge was a sex thing."
TopicSo I'm building a DnD campaign for tomorrow night!!
wolfy42
04/01/20 5:58:26 PM
#1
I have not DM'd in ages, and never online (Which is going to be a challenge).

I'm basing the first session/quest off a combo of Bards Tale (for ps2) using the Drunken Rat Tavern as a base. The party is starting at level 2, because I will have had them complete the "clear the rats from the cellar" quest previously (in the process rescuing the bard...who happens to be a party member (someone decided to play a bard which is why I went this way).

Should be a fun start.

Meanwhile, the boulder shoulder brothers Ivan and Pikel will have dropped off a purse of gems worth 400 gold for whoever can clear out a nest of goblins in some local caves. These goblins are loosly based off the comic "goblins" although at this point none of the title character goblins are present, the goblin tribe king will eveetually be kickassimo lol). Like in the comic, the goblins will actually have character levels in various classes (so not just ordinary goblins).

Should be a fun first run (We just decided to do this yesterday and came up with a time today, so I have about 24 hours to prepare, and I just started). Normally it'll be bigger/more complicated etc, but this is a rush job.

Anyway, wish me luck, I have not DM'd in forever and well, I can't use maps, no minis, and I'm not even sure if we'll be able to use Zoom (I may have to purchase zoom so we can).

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Glowing Elephant "Stonehedge was a sex thing."
TopicI'm making hamburgers for dinner today. What should I buy to put on them? .
wolfy42
04/01/20 5:52:19 PM
#25
I like my burgers a few ways, none involve cheese though, or mayo, or relish.

My basic burger is lettuce + tomato + ketchup + mustard. I can vary this with Ketchup + A1 (no mustard).

My bacon burger though has the above - ketchup (or A1), just with mustard and bacon (lettuce and tomato as well).

I also sometimes just want the burger. I try not to do buns anymore and a lettuce wrap burger (or lettuce + tomato wrap burger, is often what I do now.

I can do grilled onions in a pinch but never raw onions and I don't like pickles on my burger (although I do like em on the side).

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Agatha "Your naked and they are nuns, it's not your eyes they're not looking at."
Glowing Elephant "Stonehedge was a sex thing."
TopicDo any of you think covid 19 was created in a lab?
wolfy42
04/01/20 5:11:42 PM
#20
There are a few things different about this virus, that are still being tested.

The first is the fact that at least it appears like people can get this virus twice, within a short time period.

This is usually not the case, and at first the general response was no, once you are cleared you are immune.

They are not sure if the cases they have were just false positives the first time, or if people are actually re-contracting the virus.

This is a big deal because it is so contagious that if people can get the virus more than once, it cause it to become a perpetual problem in the future (quarantine would no longer be any kind of solution in fact).

Numbers often seem to vary by location as well. Drastically in some situations.

Take Italy vs Germany. When this all started they were opposites with Italy being the western country that took the most stringent and severe precautions, and Germany literally still having large sporting events and basically ignoring it.

Italy has had 107k cases but 13,155 deaths.

Germany has had 77k cases and 900 deaths.

Yet Italy took way more precautions. There is no logical explanation for this at all.

Germany is almost at a 1% death rate, and Italy is at over a 10% death rate.

There are other things that don't make sense as well. The virus seems to spread even in situations of extreme lockdown (again Italy is a good example here), where people are social distancing. It has been known for awhile now that 6 feet was not enough to prevent the spread, but even 21 feet (I believe is the new recomendation) does not seem to actually be a safe distance.

The extreme difference from one location to another in how contagius this virus seems to be, and how deadly is confusing many people/countries. There is no logical explanation at this time.

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Agatha "Your naked and they are nuns, it's not your eyes they're not looking at."
Glowing Elephant "Stonehedge was a sex thing."
TopicIn your area are people following orders and not leaving their homes?
wolfy42
04/01/20 3:26:17 PM
#3
Not at all sadly:(

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Agatha "Your naked and they are nuns, it's not your eyes they're not looking at."
Glowing Elephant "Stonehedge was a sex thing."
TopicFree stuff to get you through quarantine
wolfy42
04/01/20 3:15:17 PM
#82
DeltaBladeX posted...
I can cook. Shame I'm showing possible symptoms (coughing and getting hot) but family still refuse to do anything here. Mum has health issues, I should be staying away from her. Instead I'm doing the cooking, the dishes, the washing, and even giving her foot rubs (try to help with circulation and pain) because apparently no one else can do this shit. If I don't do it because fucking sense says I shouldn't be near anyone, they let mum do shit. And then I have to do it anyway, because she will damn well kill herself trying to do everything for the lazy useless fuckwits. Don't know what they think they will do when mum dies of this damn virus, because I sure as fuck won't take them in and do everything for them.

I've been getting rather angry with family lately.


Sorry to hear that mate:( If your in the same house as your mum though you probably won't be able to prevent her from getting it (if you have that is). They expanded the distance from 6 feet to 20 something and basically said if your in the same room with someone for any period of time, you'll get it.

I'm in a similar situation here with roomates, I live downstairs so I don't come in contact with them much, but they are not being careful at all, and they come down here to do laundry etc, so yeah, someday I'm gonna walk through an area they have been in recently I guess, I can just hope that happens AFTER they are infected.

I wish you the best though man, you are a shining light on this board, always helping people out and super generous. In real life it's generally people like that who get taken advantage of the most (especially by family). I hope your mum makes it through this ok.

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Agatha "Your naked and they are nuns, it's not your eyes they're not looking at."
Glowing Elephant "Stonehedge was a sex thing."
TopicI'm making hamburgers for dinner today. What should I buy to put on them? .
wolfy42
04/01/20 12:56:37 PM
#15
Mead posted...
Pepper bacon


Dammit, I have been jonesing for some bacon for days lol. Why did this topic have to exist? Now I REALLY want a bacon burger like so bad.

I seriously considered going shopping only for bacon like 2 days ago, but it's just not worth the risk, also I can't makk bacon in my basement so I'd have to use the kitchen which is risky as well.

But DAMN do I want some bacon (The good bacon mind you). I'm so tempted to try and sneak into my safeway and get some.

Sigh

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Agatha "Your naked and they are nuns, it's not your eyes they're not looking at."
Glowing Elephant "Stonehedge was a sex thing."
TopicDo any of you think covid 19 was created in a lab?
wolfy42
04/01/20 12:54:42 PM
#13
There are some crazy theories out there, but i'm not going down any rabbit holes right now.

The sad thing is this was predicted awhile ago by some people I know...literally because of election issues (totally NOT going into that). It's just crazy they said something like this would happen, and then it did.

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Agatha "Your naked and they are nuns, it's not your eyes they're not looking at."
Glowing Elephant "Stonehedge was a sex thing."
TopicAnyone playing april fools jokes?
wolfy42
04/01/20 12:53:18 PM
#3
Lol, I have never played jokes at work, but that would have been awesome. The veggie one at least probably wouldn't get you in trouble. I'd be worried about the other one though.

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Agatha "Your naked and they are nuns, it's not your eyes they're not looking at."
Glowing Elephant "Stonehedge was a sex thing."
TopicI'm making hamburgers for dinner today. What should I buy to put on them? .
wolfy42
04/01/20 12:00:30 PM
#13
Holy crap, I didn't notice bacon wasn't on that list.

Bacon totally.

And not crappy bacon, the good stuff.

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Agatha "Your naked and they are nuns, it's not your eyes they're not looking at."
Glowing Elephant "Stonehedge was a sex thing."
TopicAnyone playing april fools jokes?
wolfy42
04/01/20 11:57:03 AM
#1
My uncle used to play them on my mom, so, I always try and get him with a joke every year lol (although I take some off so he won't always expect it.

I know people are saying it's in bad taste right now due to the virus etc, but I think we can all use some laughter.

So, I set up a fairly easy plan to fool my uncle. We have a cruise next September and my uncle has been looking forward to it for about a year now. He took the time off from work way in advance, already booked the flight for himself, and got a hotel for Vanvoucer BC as well.

I did some research for articles that would make it look like our cruise line had canceled all cruises for the rest of the year. I sent him a IM saying that our cruise was canceled but that if we re-schedule for next year we will get 20% off. I also mentioned that the air lines would not refund tickets at this point, but that the government was trying to make them offer refunds.

I then attached two links, the first was a link to an article talking about the dem's trying to force airlines to issue refunds. The second was a link to our cruise line stating they are canceling all cruises for the next few months etc (which happened to be labeled change in itinerarys due to Corono Virus lol). This way, since they pop up on the message (even without clicking on them) it wouldn't give anything away.

I wanted to end with a third link that said "APRIL FOOLS!!" but since they pop up, that would have ruined everything right away, so instead I attached a text file named "cruise alternatives" at the end that stated APRIL FOOLS in big letters when he opened it, along with me laughing beneath that.

It totally worked lol, he even started searching the net for cruise alternatives. We ended up calling the 3rd person we are going on the cruise with (my uncles friend) and we all laughed about it.

So it can be a fun thing if you do it right, I'm glad I spent the time:)

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Agatha "Your naked and they are nuns, it's not your eyes they're not looking at."
Glowing Elephant "Stonehedge was a sex thing."
TopicWhen was the last time you thoroughly bathed yourself?
wolfy42
04/01/20 10:37:46 AM
#13
I miss baths, havn't been able to take one since I sold my house, god, so long ago.

At least I CAN reach my back with my hands, but yeah, I miss baths.

Of course back then I could still read books, so I could have a nice bath with a cup of tea and a good book.

Now, I mean, what do you do in the bath without a book to read? It just wouldn't be the same.

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Agatha "Your naked and they are nuns, it's not your eyes they're not looking at."
Glowing Elephant "Stonehedge was a sex thing."
TopicYou aren't a 90s kid if you can't name this boy band.
wolfy42
04/01/20 10:35:28 AM
#19
I couldn't name one boy band in the 90's even, let alone today, although I was a kid in the 70's and 80's not 90s.

I couldn't name a boy band in the 70's or 80's eether though (unless you count the beatles.

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Agatha "Your naked and they are nuns, it's not your eyes they're not looking at."
Glowing Elephant "Stonehedge was a sex thing."
TopicI'm making hamburgers for dinner today. What should I buy to put on them? .
wolfy42
04/01/20 10:33:05 AM
#7
Lokarin posted...
Realtalk, that's sounds REALLY good right now - there hasn't been meat available for about 2 weeks


I froze some chuck roasts in my fridge, I'm allowing myself one a week, but that is all for meet for me right now. I could really go for a burger.

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Agatha "Your naked and they are nuns, it's not your eyes they're not looking at."
Glowing Elephant "Stonehedge was a sex thing."
TopicHow can Mortal Kombat 11 lose to super Mario odyssey lol
wolfy42
04/01/20 10:32:02 AM
#11
I believe it was a fatality.

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Agatha "Your naked and they are nuns, it's not your eyes they're not looking at."
Glowing Elephant "Stonehedge was a sex thing."
TopicI'm making hamburgers for dinner today. What should I buy to put on them? .
wolfy42
04/01/20 10:30:03 AM
#4
ME!!! I want some!!

I mean, I don't wanna be on the burger, or like cooked.....that kinda sounds weird.

I just wanna burger alright?

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Agatha "Your naked and they are nuns, it's not your eyes they're not looking at."
Glowing Elephant "Stonehedge was a sex thing."
TopicGameFAQs isn't doing anything for Aprils Fools this year?
wolfy42
04/01/20 10:29:12 AM
#9
Ooops I kinda did a big april fools joke on my uncle at 12:30 am lolz.

Didn't get the bad taste memo.

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Agatha "Your naked and they are nuns, it's not your eyes they're not looking at."
Glowing Elephant "Stonehedge was a sex thing."
TopicCOVID-19 ALERT: US death toll passes China's...
wolfy42
03/31/20 10:35:58 PM
#49
I searched all over for the article I read this morning, written by an american reporter who has been stuck in Italy since this all started. He described the extreme measures, and the fact that 14 (think it was provinces he said, maybe it was cities) were quarantined and reporters could not get into them.

I can't find the stupid article, I even checked my history. It must have been through aol or something I guess.

Anyway, here is another article explaining that Italy actually has had the strongest western restrictions and response so far. It has been almost a month since they started severe SAH orders which is about 2 weeks ahead of the US.

The basic point I was trying to make is that they didn't just drop the ball or ignore things (like germany and the US have done), but actually took this seriously almost right away, about the opposite of the response in the US.


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Agatha "Your naked and they are nuns, it's not your eyes they're not looking at."
Glowing Elephant "Stonehedge was a sex thing."
TopicNewest season of curb your enthusiasm is fuckin great
wolfy42
03/31/20 7:59:30 PM
#4
Man , I may need to get HBO then, there is a new westworld season as well. Could binge watch stuff in a month. Just gotta figure out the cheapest way to add it.

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Agatha "Your naked and they are nuns, it's not your eyes they're not looking at."
Glowing Elephant "Stonehedge was a sex thing."
Topic30 days to slow the spread.
wolfy42
03/31/20 7:57:04 PM
#21
papercup posted...
It's important to remember that the way recoveries are counted are testing negative twice after testing positive. So not everyone that feels better will get another test, let alone 2, so the recovery rate is much MUCH higher than what is reported.


I wish I could say that matters, but...sadly, at least for Italy's numbers, the number of deaths compared to the number of people who were confirmed to have the virus is what is important.

That ratio shows it as being over 10% of the people who were confirmed to have the virus have died at this point. Now, it's quite possible not everyone was tested (highly likely in fact) that had the virus.

Even if only half of those with the virus were tested though, that is still above a 5% mortality rate, which is completely and totally unheard of at this point. The flue has a .1% mortality rate. The gov is currently trying to say the this virus only has a 1% mortality rate even though the numbers that China released (which are obviously very unlikely to be true) show it having a higher mortality rate than that (significantly).

China has settled down (few deaths each day now) to end with a 4% death rate out of those who tested positive. They seem to have at least hit a downward curve (but some reports say it's starting up again). The point though here is even if China is telling the truth (They certainly wouldn't exagerate the number of deaths) we are talking about a 4% death rate of people tested and probably at least a 2% death rate of the population who caught the virus.

And it's highly (Extremely highly) likely they are covering up some things.

So yeah, more are recovering than we know, but...the number that really matters is the % of people who get it who die, and well, that is looking to be at least double what the US is trying to say it is. It is almost certainly over a 2% death rate, and based on Italy, might be over 5%.

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Agatha "Your naked and they are nuns, it's not your eyes they're not looking at."
Glowing Elephant "Stonehedge was a sex thing."
Topic30 days to slow the spread.
wolfy42
03/31/20 6:33:42 PM
#16
I mean, honestly? I don't know where they are getting these numbers, they seem WAY to low.

Even with full quarantine/SAH, I would expect a much larger number. Look at ITaly which imposed far more stringent measures WAY earlier than us.

Curent confirmed virus cases in Italy, 105k
Current # of deaths in Italy 12,428 (over 10%)
Current number of cases that have fully recovered 15,729.

That is with a full lockdown in effect, and a fairly strong lockdown that was started almost right away when cases started to pop up, WAY before the US started any SAH at all.

MEanwhile Italy has less than 1/5th our total population.

So if we only get hit as hard as them, it seems likely we would have at least 5x as many deaths (and honestly probably far more due to not having the resources to hospitalize such a large number, even italy was having to choose who to admit).

I would suggest that any number of deaths less then 1 million in the US before this is over would be a good result (even if we actually start really locking everything down), not 100k.

It should be menttoned that in JUST New York and New Jersey at this point, we have about as many cases as Italy has all together. If this continues to spread like it has in those locations (And honestly it doesn't seem like we are doing much to prevent that), we should end up with waaay more then 5x as many people getting the virus as Italy. They have 60million people in Italy and only 105k total confirmed cases.

It's highly likely that if we don't start taking this seriously, we could have more than 10x that many infected, possibly 20x or more if it totally gets out of control.

We have 320 MILLION people in the US, and as we can see in NY it can spread very fast, so yeah, if even 33% of our pop actually contracts the virus, that would be over 100 million cases....compared to Italy's 100k.....or 1000x as many cases...and therefore likely AT LEAST 1000x as many deaths.

Currently itally has over 12k deaths....multiply that by 1000x and your talking about 12 million deaths, not 100k.

Those are the worst case numbers we should be seeing, not......if we didn't do anything we would have 1-2 million. That doesn't make mathmatical sense at all.

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Agatha "Your naked and they are nuns, it's not your eyes they're not looking at."
Glowing Elephant "Stonehedge was a sex thing."
TopicWould you rather life return to normal at risk of others or continue quarantine?
wolfy42
03/31/20 5:11:18 PM
#39
I was going outside to bbq etc until last week. I even have stuff to bbq in the freezer that I planned on using.

The problem is my roomates, they live upstairs, and they have a dog, and they go out the back (my way outside) all the time because of that. I can use my shirt/gloves etc, to open the door, but I don't know how long it's been since they went back there.

So going up the stairs even to go into the back yard right now is a risk. I will do it some, because yeah, I can't just stay closed in down here forever, I need to at least get out and walk, but I am not using the kitchen upstairs at all, and trying to only go up there when I am pretty sure they have not used the area in the last 15-20 minutes (I open my door so I can see if they do).

It's not a great situation. I should have moved awhile ago for a bunch of reasons but I can't handle additional stress right now (lol yeah, that obviously isn't working out) and moving is really stressful to me. I can't even use my TV/computer because they "hear" it up there, so I have to use headphones/earplugs to watch tv etc. I stopped using the kitchen mostly months ago as well, just doing so rarely, but now I don't use it at all.

Shows that you just shouldn't put things off, but I planned on visiting relatives and going on trips this summer, and I couldn't think about moving when it was still so cold and got dark so early. I also had Pneumonia for the last 2 months (they complained about the coughing to, at least in that case I said play background music cause there is nothing I can do about it).

I don't think they want anyone to live here anymore, but they don't want to give me a 30 day notice or anything. The woman who owns the house got married like 2 months after I moved in, and then her new husband moved in, so she doesn't really need the rent anymore I'm sure.

Anyway, my situation isn't normal, but I'm sure there are a ton of people out there stuck inside and dying for this to be over....then again, I guess we are lucky because at least we are not sick and all alone at a hospital or something.

Hard to feel lucky though as the weeks pass by.

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Agatha "Your naked and they are nuns, it's not your eyes they're not looking at."
Glowing Elephant "Stonehedge was a sex thing."
TopicWould you rather life return to normal at risk of others or continue quarantine?
wolfy42
03/31/20 2:06:26 PM
#34
Sequiro posted...
We should continue to isolate as much as possible and try and keep this from spreading around for as long as we can.


While I am going a bit stir crazy here, that isn't the worst part. Looking down another month stuck in a basement with no window, no fresh air, and no company at all......that is bad.

What is worse? My roomates upstairs are still going out, still partying (literally had a birthday party with friends/relatives the other day), one is still working (the other is semi-working from home I think). They and MANY others are not taking this seriously.

That means even though I'm doing what I can, I'm likely to still get it. They come down here to do the laundry etc, and it just takes me not hearing them come down once, and heading out there after they have been down recently for me to get infected.

So I feel almost like what I am doing is worthless (other than if I do get it, at least I wouldn't be responsible for spreading it).

Too many people are laughing about this, or just don't care, or follow trump religiously (my roomates for instance) but not enough to realize he has changed his tune somewhat at this point. He basically called it a flue and that it would be gone by Easter and that is all they care about.

So yeah, the worst part is that all this self isolation may be for nothing, and ii's not freaking easy. I'm used to being at home alot, but damn it's been weeks, I have decent food at least, but there is only so much I can do at home.I can't even think about playing a video game anymore and I'm seriously burnt out on watching TV, but there is literally nothing else for me to do.

They should make all streaming services free right now to give people more options, they should do SOMETHING to provide online socialization methods (zoom for free for large groups for instance), there has to be more done to prevent people who are all alone going batshit crazy as this continues.

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Agatha "Your naked and they are nuns, it's not your eyes they're not looking at."
Glowing Elephant "Stonehedge was a sex thing."
TopicCOVID-19 ALERT: US death toll passes China's...
wolfy42
03/31/20 1:58:29 PM
#11
Get back to me when we pass Italy's numbers, which we will, easily.

Those are far more real, and they have done a WAY better job of self isolating then us, have more medical supplies etc per capita and they took it VERY seriously right from the start (onll a few deaths reported before then started quarantine).

So yeah, we'll get there, but this has just started.

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Agatha "Your naked and they are nuns, it's not your eyes they're not looking at."
Glowing Elephant "Stonehedge was a sex thing."
TopicWhat's the quarantine like where you are?
wolfy42
03/31/20 11:08:12 AM
#21
myghostisdead posted...
Great idea but I doubt they deliver as far out as I live. :(

I believe it goes through the normal mail, so if you get mail there, you might be able to. Worth a shot at least.

Even drive throughs are dangerous which is why I went through the hassle of switching over.

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Agatha "Your naked and they are nuns, it's not your eyes they're not looking at."
Glowing Elephant "Stonehedge was a sex thing."
TopicI haven't read all of them, but I can't imagine there's a worse Discworld book
wolfy42
03/31/20 10:38:42 AM
#9
ParanoidObsessive posted...
Ick, Kindle.

Read real books!


Sobs at his inability to do so anymore :(

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Agatha "Your naked and they are nuns, it's not your eyes they're not looking at."
Glowing Elephant "Stonehedge was a sex thing."
TopicWhat's the quarantine like where you are?
wolfy42
03/31/20 10:34:23 AM
#18
Should mention most insurance plans right now will allow you to have perscriptions sent to your home. It took me about 4 hours to set it up yesterday, but at least now I won't need to go out to get my prescriptions in a few days.

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Agatha "Your naked and they are nuns, it's not your eyes they're not looking at."
Glowing Elephant "Stonehedge was a sex thing."
TopicWould you rather life return to normal at risk of others or continue quarantine?
wolfy42
03/31/20 3:29:47 AM
#18
LinkPizza posted...
How do they choose who?


First 20% (or more) is already out there working "emergency" based jobs (which sadly seems to include almost everything lol).

Second 20% would probably be by age, or if you work in certain other jobs that are high demand but were not emergency before. It doesn't have to be exactly 20% just about that much.

I would probably say you slowly increase the age range of people released. So emergency only at first, then say people between 18-30 next, 30-40 after that, then 40-50 and finally 50-60.

Anyone over 60 or with medical conditions stay home for another month and get supplimented by the gov so they can afford that (if they are not already on Social Security or disability etc). Same for people with medical conditions.

There is a very low death rate for people under 30...so the first group would be a test group, and wouldn't be released till april 16th anyway (more than 2 weeks from now when we would start a REAL quarantine ...ie....no more people just going out/having parties etc.)

On the 16th you release everyone 18-30, hospitals should be mostly free by then to handle any cases. That will give a good idea of how well this will work. If it works well, on the 30th (or May 1st) you release everyone 30-40 then on the 15th everyone 40-50, and end of maybe 50-60.

At that point most everyone is back to work and things are getting back to normal. You keep the elderly/sick inside at least through june, keeping an eye on new cases. If there are no new cases for 2 weeks (before the end of june) you start releasing the ones who are younger but with mild conditons (high blood pressure, asthma etc), and see how that works. As long as nobody starts catching it again, you release everyooe by the end of june.

Still seems like forever to me, but it would be the safest way I can think of to handle this.

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TopicWhat's the quarantine like where you are?
wolfy42
03/31/20 3:10:18 AM
#2
Sadly my roomates just threw a birthday party yesterday, both are going out daily as well. Many people are ignoring the whole thing, or laugh and say it'll be gone in a few weeks.

They don't even bother looking online for info/stats etc, they just assume it's nothing. Even with the president ordering people to stay inside through april, no difference.

I literally use gloves etc to open the door upstairs to avoid contact with things my roomates have touched and I have not gone into the kiichen in over a week. Wish they would self isolate so we could at least hang out with each other (not that they seem interested in that normally), but instead they are having friends over like it's normal and having parties etc.

Can't go up there with that much risk, they may be young and healthy, but I am not.

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Glowing Elephant "Stonehedge was a sex thing."
TopicWould you rather life return to normal at risk of others or continue quarantine?
wolfy42
03/31/20 2:41:28 AM
#13
I've said it before and I'll say it again, there is only one way for this to end without a ton of deaths or a very long quarantine and that is by releasing people in waves.

You start off with the people already out there for emergency jobs etc, wait 2 weeks so that those who need serious medical help in that time have recovered as much as possible, and then release 20% of the population to get back to work.

Wait another 2 weeks and release another 20% (now 60% total).

And finally after 2 more weeks the last 20% (Who are not elderly or have pre-existing conditions etc).

80% of your work force is back, only the sick/elderly are in quarantine anymore, and things are mainly back to normal before the end of May.

That would cut down seriously on deaths, prevent hospitals from being overwhelmed, but still allow people to get back to work in a fairly resonable amount of time.

It's not a perfect solution, but it is a solution that would cover both bases as much as possible, preventing a majority of the deaths, while also getting things back to normal as fast as you can without a massive number of people getting infected.

You could, I guess, halve the time by releasing 40% a pop, but only if you had the medical supplies/beds etc ready for such large numbers of people getting sick at once. That could enable most people to be back at work by the end of april though...and is still better than any solution that has most of the US quanrantine until everyone is released at the end of april etc, or even possibly may.

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Glowing Elephant "Stonehedge was a sex thing."
TopicH1Geek1
wolfy42
03/30/20 11:17:38 PM
#151
I_Abibde posted...
Congrats to Shadow on the engagement! Or condolences, as Zeus puts it.

My Wednesday night D&D group has moved to Roll 20, and the results have been ... difficult. My laptop can barely run it, everybody has microphone issues, etc. Going to keep trying until the lockdown lifts, but I do not enjoy playing D&D this way. I mean, going from what PO says above, I'm a writer, and I used to do a lot of text-based online RP (in IRC, if anybody remembers that), but nothing can replace the in-person tabletop experience for me.


Hey man, try Zoom seriously. We tried a few other methods including discord etc, and zoom is by far the best. It's like being in a room with everyone. You can split the screen on your computer as well and have discord below for rolling your dice (have to load a dice rolling bot) or messages between the dm and players etc.

It actually is almost better than playing in person because everyone is ccmfy at their home, you can make tea etc, and be in your most comfortable chair. Really enjoying playing over zoom, may not ever go back to in person play after this.

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Glowing Elephant "Stonehedge was a sex thing."
TopicHave you seen Yesterday?
wolfy42
03/30/20 10:57:28 PM
#3
Yes, but not Yesterday.

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Glowing Elephant "Stonehedge was a sex thing."
TopicWill you be paying rent?
wolfy42
03/30/20 10:56:44 PM
#47
OniRonin posted...
found the landlord


lolz

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Glowing Elephant "Stonehedge was a sex thing."
TopicWhat exactly IS Kirby anyway?
wolfy42
03/30/20 6:15:17 PM
#22
It's he a car? A VW bug I think (could be wrong there).

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Glowing Elephant "Stonehedge was a sex thing."
TopicSimba.
wolfy42
03/30/20 6:13:34 PM
#4
WastelandCowboy posted...
Not quite "right" before he died, as it was at least a day. Remember? Simba and Nala sang the song then scampered off to the Elephant Graveyard, where they met the hyenas. Got in trouble, went back to Pride Rock. Following day, Simba went with Scar to the canyon where shit happened.


I mean yeah, it wasn't minutes before, but still, that has to sting lol.

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Glowing Elephant "Stonehedge was a sex thing."
TopicDo you consider yourself a fan of rap music?
wolfy42
03/30/20 6:12:49 PM
#19
Rap and country music always are fighting to determine which of them I like the least over all, but, there are songs from both genres I like.

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Glowing Elephant "Stonehedge was a sex thing."
TopicSimba.
wolfy42
03/30/20 6:08:40 PM
#2
Also, I forgive you for singing that song "I just can't wait to be king" right before I died.


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TopicWhen you're hungry but don't feel like cooking...
wolfy42
03/30/20 5:32:56 PM
#13
That pizza was not an option is a travesty.

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Agatha "Your naked and they are nuns, it's not your eyes they're not looking at."
Glowing Elephant "Stonehedge was a sex thing."
TopicI am in love with early '90s Jennifer Connelly.
wolfy42
03/30/20 5:22:30 PM
#6
THEGODDAMNBATMA posted...
but won't you be upset when your wife goes missing one night and comes back the next morning to announce that she fucked some celebrity?


First she would have told me before hand, second it would probabby have been Angelina Jolie (She was on her list not mine) and I'm fine with that. I mean, she had brad pit as well, so it might have been a 3 way. Woulda been ok with that as well and happy.

We both supported each other's celebrity crushes fully.

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Agatha "Your naked and they are nuns, it's not your eyes they're not looking at."
Glowing Elephant "Stonehedge was a sex thing."
TopicCOVID-19 cases is RISING in SHOCKING Numbers in TRUMP WON STATES!!!
wolfy42
03/30/20 5:04:05 PM
#14
Was just reading an article from a reporter inside Italy and from what he says they started telling people to stay inside and isolate even before there were many cases identified and only 2 deaths.

I always though Italy dropped the ball and let things get out of control, but it's actually sounding like they did a way better job then we have been doing so far. I mean, my roomates just had a freaking birthday party upstairs yesterday. They invited me up for cake and pie (which was nice, but no, I didn't go).

People are still driving around like normal, food is being delivered (not groceries, pizza etc), and tons of people are still going to work as well (for jobs nobody would think was emergency jobs).

This is in Tacoma WA but yeah, a ton of people are still laughing this thing off.

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Agatha "Your naked and they are nuns, it's not your eyes they're not looking at."
Glowing Elephant "Stonehedge was a sex thing."
TopicDo you consider yourself a fan of rap music?
wolfy42
03/30/20 4:43:48 PM
#5
With my mind on my money and my money on my mind.

Laaaaaaid back.

Nope.

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Agatha "Your naked and they are nuns, it's not your eyes they're not looking at."
Glowing Elephant "Stonehedge was a sex thing."
TopicWhen this quarantine is over, do you see your day to day changing?
wolfy42
03/30/20 4:43:20 PM
#9
Clench281 posted...
If your answer to this question is "no" maybe you should find someone to talk to


Don't you usually have to go out to do that?

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Glowing Elephant "Stonehedge was a sex thing."
TopicI slept funny last night, now my neck is killing me
wolfy42
03/30/20 4:09:21 PM
#10
Ogurisama posted...
Its better today, but still hurts...

Are you with anyone? IF there is another person there you could soak in a bath/shower, put a hot towel on your shoulder and then have them rub it/kneed it for a bit. You can do it yourself, but it's not as effective (you really need to relax as much as possible which is hard while massaging yourself...hmm that sounds weird).

Don't go out for a massage right now though, if any are even open, I would say it's certainly not worth the risk.

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Agatha "Your naked and they are nuns, it's not your eyes they're not looking at."
Glowing Elephant "Stonehedge was a sex thing."
TopicTrump says if ONLY 100,000 People DIE from COVID-19 then they did a GOOD JOB!!!
wolfy42
03/30/20 4:04:43 PM
#12
OhhhJa posted...
Bullshit. With how much travel there is between China and the US, there's no way it wasn't here immediately. Probably in November. I think it's even been confirmed at this point. With China attempting to cover it up, it could even be argued they used it as a bioweapon to spread it globally


The speed at which it has expanded in NY for instance shows that it was not here for months already. The cases we initially saw, where almost definately the first cases in this country.

The current ratio of cases confirmed to deaths is more around 2%, but there are probably MANY cases that have not been confirmed (Even in NY). That being said, there is also currently no serious shortage of medical supplies/beds yet, which can drastically increase the number of deaths later on.

Italy though has 101k cases and 11k deaths, so slightly over a 10% death rate.

One would hope the US numbers are not going to be that high.

I would strongly suggest that a 1% death rate though would be ABSOUTELY FREAKING AMAZING) considering china had between a 4% and 5% death rate based on people who tested postive (even saying only half that had it were tested, that is still over a 2% death rate).

If there is no way to prevent at least 66% of US citizens from getting the virus, and we have even a 3% death rate (which could be way worse mind you), that is still 3% of 220million people, or about 7 million people that shoull die with those figures.

I would suggest that is pretty much a best case scenerio if the social distancing is taken as seriously here as it has been in Italy.

World wide, there are places that are going to dwarf us as far as death rates. India is an excellent example with 4x our population and extreme pop density. Along with the lack of medical resources, you could see a 13-18% death rate (Based on cases that need critical care here to prevent death). That would be insane amounts of death (seriously if it hit 20% of 1.2 billion that is 240 million just in India.)

Maybe something will be found to help fight the virus, or at least prevent it from hitting so hard etc in time. Social distancing is the key though cause other than that, we have absolutely no defense right now.

Now I'm not sure on my numbers exactly, the whole 13% needing medical help is really not nailed down for sure, but that could be looked at as a baseline % of deaths without outside resources (Ventilators, machines, hospital beds etc). The less people that need them at one time, the more people will live basically.

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Glowing Elephant "Stonehedge was a sex thing."
TopicI am in love with early '90s Jennifer Connelly.
wolfy42
03/30/20 1:56:40 PM
#3
I will always love her:)

She was on my list (me and my wife had a list of celebrities we could sleep with hehe).

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Glowing Elephant "Stonehedge was a sex thing."
TopicI finally got a home elliptical woo
wolfy42
03/30/20 9:55:12 AM
#7
Jen0125 posted...
No? I bought it.


Was a joke, there was a comercial for a workout machine a few months ago, where a boyfriend bought his gf (or was it wife, no clue) a workout machine and the girl had like a hangdog look on her face and it went viral.

Then um.....damn whats his name..oh yeah, ryan renolds made a new video for his scotch (think it was scotch) using the same actress with a bunch of girl friends that was hillarous (he did it like in a few days or something.

Anyway, congrats, and i hope ii gets put together easily. I wish I had the machine I gave to friends a few years ago at this point.

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Glowing Elephant "Stonehedge was a sex thing."
TopicWhen do you think tings will "be normal" again?
wolfy42
03/30/20 8:27:43 AM
#45
Got bad news from the NY times today. Trump has announced every american should shelter at home through at least april and probably through june:(

While i knew april 16 was too early probably, I was hoping by the end of april this would start to let up a bit at least, and certainly not go all the way through may and june.

I hope they come up with a way to deliver groceries because if I keep having to go out and get the, i'm gonna get the virus the way the stores are working around here. I'm surprised honestly that I have not gotten it in the 2 times I have shopped so far. I was probably just lucky (i would know by now if I had that is for sure).

So at least another month like this, man, I'm an introvert and spend alot of time at ahome, but you don't realize how important the trips out you actually take are, until you can't take them anymore.

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Agatha "Your naked and they are nuns, it's not your eyes they're not looking at."
Glowing Elephant "Stonehedge was a sex thing."
TopicThere must have been some magic in that old silk hat they found
wolfy42
03/30/20 8:20:04 AM
#4
Do you want to build a snowman?

You mean a snow demon?

What?

Yeah, it'll eat yer soul!!!

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Agatha "Your naked and they are nuns, it's not your eyes they're not looking at."
Glowing Elephant "Stonehedge was a sex thing."
TopicI finally got a home elliptical woo
wolfy42
03/30/20 2:11:39 AM
#5
I mean, did your BF get it for you, and if so, you gotta totally make a Peloton's video!!

*hehe*

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