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| Topic | So Pencil Crayons (Colored Pencils) Are Awesome... |
| Sahuagin 11/13/20 6:32:53 PM #1 | Color Felts/Markers too Everyone should have these. They cost almost nothing and let you draw things in all kinds of different colors. Why aren't these seen as more standard? Rather than sort of a childish/girly thing to do? These are must-have. Trying to draw a map in the game I'm playing and needed colors for 6+ different faction borders, but all I had was red, blue, black, and luckily a green pen, as well as pencil. That sort of worked, but now that I have pencil crayons, I can make draw in orange, brown, pink, and million other colors, and it colors things a lot better than a ballpoint pen. And then I can use a black felt to draw transitions and it writes over the border colors so cleanly. https://imgur.com/DYZrIwH --- |
| Topic | Is there a cousin to the Mandela Effect? ... (more infos inside) |
| Sahuagin 11/10/20 11:53:03 PM #15 | here's an example, but only 1 additional occurrence, not multiple watch a video, guy bought a BMW M2, so I read about BMW M cars. BMW is a German company, and the subsidiary that makes BMW M cars is BMW M GmbH. that's a lot of letters, but ok whatever. few hours later, ok, guess I'll start playing the game I'm working on. out of the corner of my eye I notice the text GmbH on the launcher. that GmbH sure looks familiar... wait were those the letters of the BMW company? look it up... yes. ok, so this game is made by Egosoft, which is a German company, and the company is named Egosoft GmbH. GmbH means Gesellschaft mit beschrnkter Haftung or basically "limited liability company", so LLC in English. so yeah, complete coincidence that I was playing a german-made game at the same time I was reading about a german-made car company (neither of which I knew were german before today, I thought BMW was british). add one more occurrence and you have the really-weird version. I would have to happen to randomly see another GmbH company today or tomorrow though, which isn't likely. --- |
| Topic | What are you currently playing? |
| Sahuagin 11/10/20 11:41:07 PM #17 | X: Beyond the Frontier I tried it a long time ago, but didn't have the patience to figure it out. this time I was determined to at least understand the game, and it just keeps getting better the more I play it. I always wished there were more games like Privateer, and here it is. wish I had played through it before now. --- |
| Topic | I think I'm gonna stop playing WRPGs on the higher difficulties. |
| Sahuagin 11/09/20 8:00:04 PM #13 | just start on normal and move up from there, like any other game. some games' normals are easy, and some are hard. it's true though that games tend to do a terrible job of coming up with interesting ways of making the game harder, and then the harder difficulties don't scale properly with the game mechanics. (actually that's why to start on normal. it's the setting that is going to be the most fine-tuned by the devs. the harder difficulties will likely have all kinds of balance issues, as you noticed, because they don't put any effort into balancing the game that way.) --- |
| Topic | Which of these seemingly unrelated games do you like most (NES/SNES era) |
| Sahuagin 11/09/20 2:00:23 AM #2 | Zelda 2 is awesome Soulblazer is good but not great EVO is awesome in theme, although maybe only good in terms of gameplay I don't know the others, though I've seen the Cybernator cartridge and/or box like a million times --- |
| Topic | Donald Trump's funniest moment |
| Sahuagin 11/09/20 12:02:17 AM #38 | I liked covfefe, they named a star in Stellaris after it, but I hadn't heard of the Four Seasons Landscaping thing, that's hilarious --- |
| Topic | Is there a cousin to the Mandela Effect? ... (more infos inside) |
| Sahuagin 11/06/20 10:34:49 PM #13 | Lokarin posted... Reddit agreesI think though that there are times when that occurs, and it isn't just an illusion, but more of a coincidence. I've had ones in particular where it went something like that I learned a new concept randomly from the internet (reading wiki or whatever), and then visited my mom's place and the random show she was watching it was mentioned, which already feels surprising and impossible, and then later that day, reading a couple more pages from the book I've been reading the last month, the concept is mentioned there two pages from where I was. it feels impossible, but there's no reason why it should be. it's just very unlikely and will happen to someone somewhere eventually. --- |
| Topic | Time periods |
| Sahuagin 11/06/20 10:22:14 PM #4 | exactly 100 or within 100? --- |
| Topic | Do you have a 4k tv yet? |
| Sahuagin 11/06/20 7:33:27 PM #8 | I had a cheap one for like 1-2 days, but it had terrible vertical banding. it looked terrible, so I returned it. --- |
| Topic | Where can I order offensive T-shirt memes? |
| Sahuagin 11/06/20 6:12:50 PM #2 | redbubble.com I don't know if you can find that exactly, but it's a pretty good place for getting meme-merch, and just checking now, they do have nsfw stuff too. to get something extremely specific, you'd probably have to ask an artist to make it --- |
| Topic | Is there a cousin to the Mandela Effect? ... (more infos inside) |
| Sahuagin 11/06/20 1:38:36 PM #2 | Lokarin posted... when you learn a new thing, or a new word, it begins to show up in multiple placesok, yes, that happens to me all the time and it's weird. learn a concept you never heard of before, and then immediately hear it used randomly in two separate places on that same day. very strange. it's very weird, because it's not like you'll hear it every day for the rest of time. no, you hear about it multiple times immediately after learning about it, and then rarely if ever again. --- |
| Topic | New System of a Down Songs |
| Sahuagin 11/06/20 12:28:11 AM #1 | two new songs (at least). fundraiser for Armenia and Artsakh or something. posted like a half-hour ago. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqmknZNg1yw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_74nVpLVn9Q --- |
| Topic | Is erasing a memory possible? |
| Sahuagin 11/05/20 12:20:23 AM #14 | you can't erase the memory but you can train yourself never to think of it by always interrupting any thoughts about it --- |
| Topic | Trying naming every Favorite Video Game of All Time you've had in your life |
| Sahuagin 11/04/20 11:19:38 PM #18 | something like this, but very rough (for example, exactly *when* did I first play/see SMB1? I only got small tastes of it for such a long time before I finally owned it. I had an SMS a long time before owning an NES. so, was SMB1 my favorite before I owned it? (probably, that game was like crack to 10yo me) and what games would that override? I can't remember.) (another problem is combining the chronology of console games and PC games... might as well be impossible to merge those.) (these are pretty much all games that I was borderline 'addicted to' at the time I played them) (there's probably more pre-NES games I could put here, but who the heck knows the order; these are the ones that affected me the most, not necessarily the ones I played the most) Frogger (Atari?) Vector (Colecovision) Donkey Kong Jr (Colecovision) Alex Kidd in Miracle World (SMS) SMB1 (NES) SMW (SNES) Final Fantasy 2 (SNES) Secret of Mana (SNES) Final Fantasy 3 (SNES) Chrono Trigger (SNES) Descent 1 (PC)** MechWarrior 2 (PC) Exile: Escape from the Pit (PC) Civilization 2: Test of Time (PC) Master of Orion 2 (PC) Civilization 3 (PC) * Morrowind (PC) World of Warcraft (PC) *** Civilization 4 (PC) // not sure of relation to WoW Minecraft (PC) Dungeon of the Endless (PC) Stellaris (PC) *** Shenzhen I/O (PC) Factorio (PC) Kerbal Space Program (PC) * I want to put System Shock 2 (PC) and Deus Ex (PC) there, but I guess they weren't *quite* as high as everything else. they were awesome games, but not ones I was particularly addicted to. ** Descent 1 remains one of my favorite games of all time. it may just overshadow everything beyond it. *** games I feel don't really warrant how much I liked them at the time (not including pre-NES games, which that's just implied) --- |
| Topic | Working from home or an office |
| Sahuagin 11/03/20 8:14:51 PM #18 | assuming it's a good office, definitely an office. good office would include: - sufficient desk space - sufficiently fast/modern computer with at least 3 preferably 4 monitors - fast internet - source of coffee - quiet working conditions - nearby acceptable bathroom really good office would include: - source of food - private with lots of space --- |
| Topic | What's for supper/dinner/evening sustenance? |
| Sahuagin 11/02/20 8:04:02 PM #6 | some Bombay Mac and Cheese and Thai Chow Mein from Noodlebox --- |
| Topic | Is there a term/thingy for when something is overdesigned to do something simple |
| Sahuagin 11/01/20 4:36:31 PM #5 | overengineering/overengineered bloat cruft --- |
| Topic | Anyone like the Warhammer 40k? |
| Sahuagin 11/01/20 4:05:13 PM #6 | love the setting, especially recently, but know nothing about the board game --- |
| Topic | France has been pretty great lately |
| Sahuagin 11/01/20 3:40:11 PM #67 | adjl posted... Disapproving of what they says means you think they shouldn't have said itblatantly false. (I mean, here we are right here. you are IMO stating falsehoods. I in no way think that means that you shouldn't have said it, if that's what you think. for all I know, my perspective is the one that's wrong, and what I think you're saying that I disagree with is actually something I need to hear. that's the whole point.) adjl posted... That's the only possible way to disapprove of people saying something; the concept of "what they say" without having spoken it carries no meaning.there's a difference between being opposed to a statement and being opposed to the statement's existence. I can't make it any clearer for you. adjl posted... "Ambiguous" means that it can be interpreted multiple ways as it currently stands, not that it can be made to mean different things by injecting additional context. "You shouldn't say that" isn't going to carry the implication of "or else I'll kill you" unless you add the context of a sinister sneer and a shrill minor second from the violins."you shouldn't say that" is an extremely ambiguous statement and at this point I actually have no idea what you really mean by it. adjl posted... Speech is a behaviour. Incorporating any ideology into any sort of practical application means changing your behaviour to do so. You can't dissociate them like that.free speech is more about ideas, not behaviours. you're describing unpleasant behaviours that you want to distance yourself from, rather than "unpleasant" ideas that you want to punish someone for. some behaviours might be able to be considered a form of idea (maybe?) but saying "Speech is a behaviour" doesn't make any sense. "free speech" is not necessarily about literal speaking... adjl posted... Quite simply, if you say things I don't like, you should expect me to dislike you, likely to the point of dissociating from you if you do it often enough (because why spend life surrounded by unpleasant people if you don't have to?). A civilized society that values free speech will prohibit me from harming you or otherwise forcing you not to say them, but disliking you and wanting to distance myself from you because of the things you say does not infringe on your right to say such things. That's just the consequence of the things you say.so far, all of the examples of "things I don't like" you've presented have been violent or aggressive and not purely ideological. shunning someone for purely ideological reasons is what is (maybe/probably) morally wrong. if a christian learns a person is gay, and then shuns them because of it, that's immoral. note that when I say that it's a violation of free speech, I think that I don't mean that it's a violation of the person's rights, but that it violates the ideal of free speech. --- |
| Topic | France has been pretty great lately |
| Sahuagin 11/01/20 2:32:06 PM #64 | adjl posted... Well, yeah. Unspoken speech is meaningless. Until it is spoken into existence, speech has no value or significance whatsoever. Being opposed to the existence of the statement is the only form of opposition that makes any sense, since spoken speech is the only form that has any impact to assess.no, you can be opposed to a statement without being opposed to its existence. (the obvious quote for this is "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"). adjl posted... It's really not.it literally is ambiguous... "you shouldn't say that", can easily mean "if you say that, there's a good chance we're going to kill you". it depends on context. (I know it's ambiguous, because I literally don't completely know what you mean.) it's literally ambiguous... it can be parsed multiple ways depending on context. that's literally what ambiguous means. adjl posted... they expressed a desire to harass and bother them to the fullest extent possiblethat's still technically a form of violence. "harass and bother them to the fullest extent possible" is assault. we're talking about free speech; you shouldn't be trying to inject other behaviours into it, because yes, that would justify being against it. adjl posted... Or, more realistically, you tell me you hate cats and launch into a tirade about everything that's wrong with them every time you see one. That's not harmful in any way, but it is really annoying. Is it unreasonable to not invite you into my cat-occupied house because I don't want to be subjected to your ranting?that's still behavioural, not ideological adjl posted... That's what it means to truly avoid applying consequences to people's speech. It requires you to completely strip language of all practical usefulness, since establishing any sort of cause and effect relationship between speech and a subsequent effect applies a consequence to what has been said. As I said, taking the concept of free speech to that extreme will never be anything other than absurd and unrealistic.no, what you said is wrong on so many levels I don't want to be bothered listing them all. adjl posted... If we start comparing magnitudes of moral wrongs and using those comparisons to justify infringing on free speech, we've given up on the idea that unconditional free speech is a fundamental right.I don't recall saying "unconditional", but it's definitely not impossible for rights to conflict. --- |
| Topic | France has been pretty great lately |
| Sahuagin 11/01/20 1:52:02 PM #62 | adjl posted... Telling somebody they shouldn't say it doesn't take away their ability to do so. They are still free to act on that advice however they want, come what may.but you don't think they should have said it. you are morally opposed not just to the statement, but to the existence of the statement. adjl posted... "You shouldn't say that" is not "you shouldn't be able to say that."there not exactly the same, but they're very similar, hence the parentheses. it's actually ambiguous in the phrase "you shouldn't say that". adjl posted... If you tell me that you hate cats and want to kill every one you see, I'm not inviting you over to my house anymore, for the sake of limiting your access to my cats. It would be profoundly unreasonable to suggest that I'm committing any sort of moral wrong by making that decision.you've introduced violence, which is a valid justification. if I said "I don't really like cats" and then you outright banned me from your house, just for that, that would be different. adjl posted... That same logic would proclaim it morally wrong to pass somebody the salt after they ask you to pass them the salt (since passing them the salt would assign a consequence to their free speech, thereby influencing what they said and infringing on their ability to truly speak freely).this doesn't make any sense adjl posted... you cannot suggest that free speech should be valued to such an extent without taking away people's freedom to choose who they associate with, which has much greater potential for harm than somebody ending up with no friends after being an asshole to everyone he meets.I think the magnitudes involved make the difference. something being technically immoral doesn't necessarily make it not an option when there are other things to consider. it's a moral violation of his free speech, but not enough to matter. --- |
| Topic | France has been pretty great lately |
| Sahuagin 11/01/20 1:08:29 PM #60 | adjl posted... Not remotely. There is always going to be room to assess the impact of a given piece of speech. Sometimes, that assessment is going to be negative, in which case the only logical course of action is to say that people shouldn't say that.free speech literally is the ability to say things that people don't like. if "someone doesn't like this" implies "this shouldn't be said", then there is no free speech. If anything, you're infringing on free speech by saying that nobody should eve be allowed to say "you shouldn't say that."no, I'm not infringing on your rights by telling you that you can't infringe on someone else's rights... your rights end where other's begin. adjl posted... Preserving free speech simply means not prohibiting it. You can never separate speech from its consequences, nor stop people from considering whether or not those consequences justify what's being said, and that's the assessment being expressed in saying "you shouldn't say that."I'm talking morally, not legally. "you shouldn't say that" means "(I believe that) it is morally wrong for you to (be able to) say that". adjl posted... you are free to express that disagreementagain, "I don't like that" is not the same as "that should not exist" adjl posted... "the world around you will be better if you don't choose to be a dick."that's true in the right situation, but again, making yourself the arbiter of what is or isn't something that makes one "a dick". adjl posted... the rest of us have the freedom to say "dude, stop being a dick" and shun them as being [something I don't like]yes, you have the right not to like things. no, you don't have the (moral) right to ruin someone else's life for saying something you don't like. (in fact, any action by you against the other person, directly or indirectly, could be a moral violation of their freedom of speech; I'd have to think about it a bit more though. I'm pretty sure "they said X and I don't like that, therefore I'm choosing to apply certain consequences to them" is a moral violation of freedom of speech.) adjl posted... Hypothetical situationyou've performed a cost/benefit analysis and made a determination about a particular situation, but you haven't identified a general rule that allows you to do so broadly. you're again making yourself the arbiter of what is or isn't acceptable to say. which is fine for you but not for everyone. (* note that in an ordinary conversation, a person may say something such as "you shouldn't say that", which is not meant as a moral assertion, but rather advice about how to proceed in the current situation. that's not what I'm talking about.) it's not as if I'm saying that there is no possible situation in which a person should probably choose not to say something; as if everyone should say literally everything all of the time everywhere. but no, you not liking something is decidedly not enough justification to say that something ought not to be said. there's a difference between "I don't like that" and "that should not exist". the latter implies that you've decided the other person's right to free speech is not as important as your "right not to be offended", which is wrong (or is what I'm asking you to justify). --- |
| Topic | France has been pretty great lately |
| Sahuagin 11/01/20 3:39:55 AM #57 | FatalAccident posted... Well its not, thats why youve seen neo nazi rallies or extreme religious rallies bashing everyone from gays to blacks to Jews to Hispanics, no incitement of violence just exercising their free speech. Not sure what you think the difference is here.regardless the point is that violence is (maybe/probably/likely) a valid reason to remove some freedoms. if you can legit say that those things are completely divorced from any and all violence, then what grounds would you have for preventing them? FatalAccident posted... Im not here to argue semanticswell, semantics are important FatalAccident posted... If its to make a point about free speech then I dont think Muslims should be the target because there are bigger threats to free speech out there.so, you've personally determined that one particular free speech issue is less important than others, for some reason, and to such a degree that it should be outright ignored, and you think that that determination should dictate what other people should or should not do... all you're saying here is "I don't like you doing thing, so don't do thing, but I'm not forcing you, but don't do it, because I don't like it". --- |
| Topic | France has been pretty great lately |
| Sahuagin 11/01/20 3:12:13 AM #55 | FatalAccident posted... Youre missing the point, just because you can doesnt mean you should.just because you shouldn't doesn't mean you mustn't. FatalAccident posted... nobody is arguing that you should be prevented from doing anything.well good, but that's what I'm trying to separate from "doing thing makes you a jerk" FatalAccident posted... The argument is you should be respectful enough not to. I honestly dont understand why thats such a difficult concept for people to understand.because what one should or shouldn't be respectful enough to do or not to do is not up to you to decide. FatalAccident posted... Free speech also lets me organise neo nazi rallies and tell you why I think Jews and blacks and Hispanics are bad people, but Im obviously not going to do that am I. Just because you can, doesnt mean you should.well, that's inciting real violence against people. that's kind of the opposite of what we're discussing. this is something being done in retaliation to real violence. speech that incites violence is clearly problematic and can be dealt with justifiably. but speech that merely annoys someone else, you have a huge spectrum of stuff there and you've chosen one particular thing to get pissed off about while ignoring everything else. you would at least need to identify what makes this one thing more important than anything else. --- |
| Topic | France has been pretty great lately |
| Sahuagin 11/01/20 3:00:02 AM #53 | PK_Spam posted... So you agree. Them specifically making this about Mohammed was so they could make fun of him and mock Muslims? That this is a government trying to oppress a group by legalizing a whole avenue of potential hate speech against them? You agree this wasnt about free speech but just the legal right to dunk on people just because you can.I don't know anything about the French president thing, I'm discussing the free speech issue separate from that. the thing to note here is that whenever you guys say "being a jerk", "being an asshole", "dunk on people", etc., that you are making a personal subjective assessment of the situation, and deciding what is or isn't ok. ie: you're making yourselves the arbiter of what is or isn't acceptable speech. that's the problem. it goes to all sorts of areas, including things like violence in video games. should Doom be censored if Christians claim they dislike it enough? what about gay people? it's just as wrong to be gay as it is to draw a caricature of mohammed. --- |
| Topic | France has been pretty great lately |
| Sahuagin 11/01/20 2:36:12 AM #50 | FatalAccident posted... Unless you can name me one legit tangible benefit to actually drawing a caricature of Mohammedthere are legit tangible benefits to being able to do that; and/or conversely, there are legit tangible disadvantages to being prevented from doing things like that FatalAccident posted... its purely antagonising for the sake of itit isn't necessarily, but even "antagonising for the sake of it" should be allowed (because who's to say whether it is or not in any particular situation); you can dislike someone who does that, but you shouldn't be able to prevent them from doing it. FatalAccident posted... freedom of speech isnt an excuse to be an assholeit doesn't make you not an asshole, but yes, you should be allowed to be one FatalAccident posted... You cant go around intentionally offending people for the sake of offensiveness sake just so you can run and hide under the guise of freedom of speech.you can, actually, not that anyone is doing that necessarily. do you realize that this all applies just as equally to something like making fun of the president, or celebrities? should memes involving real people be outlawed, because how dare you mock people? you don't have to like it, but that doesn't mean it ought not to be. --- |
| Topic | France has been pretty great lately |
| Sahuagin 11/01/20 12:02:38 AM #45 | adjl posted... Not really.yes, really. that's the whole point. free speech is speech that someone somewhere doesn't want to hear. if you can't separate "someone doesn't want to hear that" from "that should not be said" then you don't even have a grasp of what free speech is. adjl posted... But one can very easily say "you're really just being a dick" while also saying "but nobody should be trying to kill you for it."and again you're jumping over "you are morally obligated not to say that", which "you're being a jerk" does not imply. really, though "you're really just being a dick" doesn't even say anything; that's a meaningless unquantified statement. not to mention it just means that you've made yourself the subjective arbiter of what is or isn't acceptable to say, for everyone. you're completely missing that there's a difference between "I don't like that" and "that should not exist", which is a pretty important distinction. --- |
| Topic | Which was your favorite sean connery movie? |
| Sahuagin 10/31/20 6:59:28 PM #14 | Zardoz no, wait... faramir77 posted... Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade.that --- |
| Topic | how much do you sleep on the weekends? |
| Sahuagin 10/31/20 5:44:41 PM #4 | I try not to sleep in, but then I'm tired and can't enjoy my day off. but then I get used to sleeping in, and Monday sucks. sigh. --- |
| Topic | Walmart returns guns and ammo to store floors |
| Sahuagin 10/31/20 5:41:28 PM #11 | why not? guns are legal, selling guns is legal, etc? --- |
| Topic | Watching Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory |
| Sahuagin 10/31/20 5:23:08 PM #6 | recommended viewing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5htSJ1C7ts rjsilverthorn posted... I'd honestly forgotten the remake had a different name...what's weird is that "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory" is more about Willy Wonka, and "Willy Wonka & the Chocolate Factory" is more about Charlie --- |
| Topic | France has been pretty great lately |
| Sahuagin 10/31/20 5:10:57 PM #27 | adjl posted... Bearing in mind that "dude, you're an asshole" counts as "condemning" it. Freedom of speech is not freedom from consequences for that speech, including judgements of your character. That does not in any way mean that murdering people over it is okay, but calling people douches for being douches is very much fair game.there's a difference between saying "that was not nice" and "you ought not to have said that". which are you claiming here? the whole point is that free speech may not be nice but that doesn't mean that it ought not to have been said. that's what free speech is. in the context that the speech in question is not being protected by threats of violence, and *actual* violence, then maybe there would be little more to it than being a jerk by saying it; but there's a really important issue to push against here by making such statements; no one should EVER be afraid to draw a picture of a 'deity' due to real threats of violence. that situation should not even be a thing, and pushing back against it is the morally right thing to do. --- |
| Topic | I didn't see a topic about it, but James Randi died last week |
| Sahuagin 10/31/20 3:48:07 PM #5 | yeah I just noticed that there were a lot of youtube videos being recommended of him. then I looked up his age, and noticed he died like 2 days earlier, which explained all the videos. --- |
| Topic | France has been pretty great lately |
| Sahuagin 10/31/20 2:44:21 PM #17 | adjl posted... On one hand, people depicting Muhammed is pretty invariably purely an effort to troll Muslims, with no actual creative, informative, or other tangible value, so condemning that is reasonable.um, no. exercising your free speech, even for its own sake, is just fine and should not be "condemned". especially if people are not just threatening but actively *taking* lives in response. there is no freedom of speech without offence; that's what it is. someone escalating that offence into murder doesn't and in fact shouldn't change that. --- |
| Topic | Which is your favorite chocolate candy bar? |
| Sahuagin 10/30/20 8:20:01 PM #39 | related to this, I recently discovered that you can order from a convenience store using doordash. I figured that out at the same time I was wondering where I should go to get some wiper fluid. so I ordered some chocolate bars, doritos and random other things along with the washer fluid. super convenient! --- |
| Topic | Which is your favorite chocolate candy bar? |
| Sahuagin 10/30/20 12:45:17 AM #25 | might be something else I'm forgetting but Crunchie is definitely one of the best  --- |
| Topic | What do you think of Google's new App Logos? |
| Sahuagin 10/30/20 12:43:00 AM #11 | icons rely on shape and color to differentiate them. they've made them look more similar, which is a bad thing for a UI if you need to select them regularly. but then, the situations they're used in might mean it doesn't matter, not sure. (I don't use google software much.) if it's more just company branding, it might make some sense to give them the same them. --- |
| Topic | ITT: Screensavers |
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| Topic | Twitter suspends accounts for posing as Black Trump supporters |
| Sahuagin 10/25/20 11:05:34 PM #116 | adjl posted... When people see the decisions companies make, that gives them the power to make an informed decision to stop patronizing that company.one of the things I was going to say is that if you follow the "control speech" path to where it leads, you usually get to USA big money: credit card companies, paypal, banks, major advertisers, etc. adjl posted... they're about preserving their public image so people keep giving them moneyno, the instances I'm talking about are people within the organization manipulating the rules of the organization in order to spread their political bias. (using "we can do what we want when we want" to justify deleting things for no reason (ie, for personal and political reasons). everyone has probably heard of youtube (google) in particular doing this a lot, but that's not the only example.) adjl posted... Enforcing transparency means they always have to keep in mind what they're going to be able to justify, creating an incentive to find objective bases for their decisions.1) companies *don't actually* have such transparency. 2) the worse they face is a small short-term negative reaction from the small proportion of users who actually care. adjl posted... potentially stricken down as violations of the companies' first amendment rights.I don't see how companies have a 1st amendment right to be able to delete information from their forums, regardless of bias, but that would be interesting to know if it is the case. LuciferSage posted... section 230that's interesting and not something I knew about, thanks --- |
| Topic | Twitter suspends accounts for posing as Black Trump supporters |
| Sahuagin 10/25/20 10:26:01 PM #112 | adjl posted... I think that's really the only way it can be. There's no way to get around the need to control what appears in people's social media feeds, simply because of the sheer volume of information out there. That means some degree of censorship (the term "curation" would be more commonly used here because it's less pejorative, but they're really the same thing) is necessary. Because the standard cannot be "never censor anything" and true objectivity is impossible, the next best alternative is to act subjectively with enough transparency for people to be able to understand what you're doing. i think this is just blatantly wrong, or legal systems would be impossible. transparency being important is a good point, but that doesn't preclude the ability to have a maximally objective process. companies bake in "we can do whatever we want whenever we want" (or whatever variation) because they can, not because they have to. (in fact they will even do that when it's not legally true.) they could have as objective a process as they pretend to have. it's not impossible to have an objective standard that they do their best to impartially judge cases by, and update as needed. they just aren't made to, and so don't. from my experience this can and does lead to unjust (and strictly immoral/unethical) outcomes, even if it is not strictly illegal. (many things are immoral without being illegal.) it's not simply "censorship is bad", it's "unrestricted ability to censor can and will be abused and you may not even know it when it happens". there's more to say, but I don't know the right solution (should companies be "forced" to be neutral; or maybe to declare a bias upfront if they have one?). in some sense this is an emerging problem with a yet to be discovered solution. (we may spend the better part of the 21st century solving these problems, if we ever do.) --- |
| Topic | I think that someone recently asked about the effects of doing business in China |
| Sahuagin 10/25/20 5:59:02 PM #2 | is PoE worth playing? I just played through WH40k Inquisitor (Martyr and Prophecy) which is basically WH40k diablo clone. it was ok, with pretty good setting and story, but now that it's over I feel so unfulfilled... is PoE challenging? does it have a good setting? --- |
| Topic | Okay well I acted like a lazy loser all weekend |
| Sahuagin 10/25/20 5:53:35 PM #15 | finished off a game yesterday. today I'm suffering from post-game depression. both days I wish I was being more productive but at least I have work tomorrow. --- |
| Topic | What is the most blatant example of ludonarrative dissonance you can think of? |
| Sahuagin 10/25/20 4:39:21 PM #52 | Shinebolt posted... I'm sure those infinitely respawning black wolves that give 22k a kill didn't lead to an economic collapse or anything either...my idea for this is that there should be companies or factions that are interested in securing land or reducing threat levels of certain areas. these factions offer the player contracts for killing certain enemies. then when you go out and fight monsters, you get paid based on all of the active contracts you have. --- |
| Topic | Growing up, what food from an animated movie/show did you wanna eat the most? |
| Sahuagin 10/24/20 10:03:20 PM #34 | kukukupo posted... I don't recall ever wanting animated food. --- |
| Topic | I got some game something stuck in my head... don't know what it's from |
| Sahuagin 10/24/20 10:01:34 PM #11 | in Street Fighter 2, if I recall, Balrog has a really short jump --- |
| Topic | What is the most blatant example of ludonarrative dissonance you can think of? |
| Sahuagin 10/24/20 7:52:43 PM #43 | actually, now that I think of it, I think *the* most blatant one is similar to the borderlands one. in almost every game you can either respawn or time-travel. I'll always remember, a few days before Interplay was forcibly shutdown by the government and the forums disappeared forever, I had written a thread about Sendai in BG2:ToB. There are cutscenes as you attack her fortress and she gets progressively more and more concerned the further in you get. It struck me, especially the second time doing that, how silly it was for Sendai not to realize that the "true" source of my character's power is the fact that I have infinite saving and loading. You basically have full access to a form of time travel, or most games would be close to impossible. The boss character thinks she has tricks up her sleeve, but with time-travel, on my 10th or so try, I already know all her tricks, and it's just a matter of time for me to be able to win. Even if I wasn't strong enough, I could leave and come back. --- |
| Topic | What game were you looking forward to but when it came out it was terrible? |
| Sahuagin 10/23/20 9:33:27 PM #41 | Master of Orion 3 Neverwinter Nights (not terrible, but disappointing) both of those releases were near each other and disillusioned me pretty hard. I try my best not to get hyped for anything after them. --- |
| Topic | What is the most blatant example of ludonarrative dissonance you can think of? |
| Sahuagin 10/22/20 11:28:06 PM #16 | RPG plot deaths when resurrection is a thing in the world WhiskeyDisk posted... despite my stack of 99 Phoenix Downs, that one girl dies in my arms in a cutscene.yes, that --- |
| Topic | Did you ever use Microsoft Encarta as a resource (before wikipedia) |
| Sahuagin 10/22/20 10:55:33 PM #5 | only a little bit, but yes, I think I did. geez, that's an ancient memory... --- |
| Topic | Twitter suspends accounts for posing as Black Trump supporters |
| Sahuagin 10/22/20 10:53:15 PM #108 | adjl posted... <snip>you're jumping back and forth between different contexts: moral, legal, and public opinion. I'm talking about this in the context of morality. yes, legally they can more or less censor whatever they want since it's a private company. yes, the whims of public opinion may or may not care about any particular action, regardless of anything else. but both of those are separate from whether it's actually moral or not. you're now saying they can subjectively censor however/whatever they want, just because true objectivity is unattainable? and you think that's how it should be? my concern is that the rules that you're describing here can be used to do much worse things than just delete tweets. I've seen people lose jobs over situations like this, where the standard that everyone was wasting their time arguing about really just boiled down to "at the end of the day we can do whatever we want". it means the standard is just there to give a false appearance of fairness and impartiality. as far as "censorship is bad" goes, that would definitely be my default until shown justification otherwise. meanwhile you're defending rules that are effectively "censorship whenever we feel like it", which really is about as authoritarian as it gets. --- |
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