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StartTheMachine posted...

what was world war 3 and how did I miss it

like jakyl said, when we killed the iranian general/leader.


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we're not even 2 weeks in and we've got civil war, a worsening pandemic, and impeachment.
2020 started with world war 3, the start of a pandemic, and impeachment.

the script is busted, we're in for a shitty sequel. hell, we've already got gorillas with covid so who fucking knows what happens.


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the toilet paper shortage of 2020 suggests they'd absolutely be used as that.


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man knows corner slice so he's a better new yorker than any politician i've seen yet.


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oh it's totally awful escalation, but it's interesting at least!

and yeah, the name Your T1 Wifi sounds like a fake name and the site is currently down but it appears to be an actual thing. archive from July 2019 here:

https://web.archive.org/web/20190728192530/https://www.yourt1wifi.com/

real site, real service, very local.

Yesmar_ posted...

Today's "Let them eat cake" moment comes courtesy of...Andrew Yang?

https://twitter.com/scottbix/status/1348610675870937088

two bedrooms?
my man, people do that shit in a one bedroom apartment or a studio.

i mean the point is still valid, it just could've been said better. either way he's still the frontrunner because he's the only one with a name.


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...ooh. spicy development. this one appears to be the first outlet reporting it, local news.

https://www.krem.com/article/news/local/idaho-internet-provider-blocks-facebook-and-twitter/293-867cc22b-fb90-4142-a296-8d800d2a03fb

an ISP in north idaho blocking facebook and twitter.
you can opt-in to getting access to it if you want. at least, that's how the email makes it sound. the comment given makes it sound like it's the reverse almost. but that's a new one, the ISPs blocking the sites too by default would be an interesting escalation.

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red sox 777 posted...

My main argument is that the best way to handle this is to break up big players in any industry so that the public interest can be protected by having a wide market with a lot of players. You also need a law against collusion.

the issue on this one would go less to twitter then, it's the backend stuff. stuff like make your own is fine, that's totally reasonable to do. problem here is the infrastructure isn't neutral, the Visa/Mastercard monopoly over payment processors, the growing concerns and argument of AWS being a monopoly (about a third of all cloud services, about half of public ones, nothing is competitive in costs). there's also a domino effect that occurs which is rather suspicious sometimes, i'm remembering SubscribeStar a couple years ago getting their payment pulled after some Patreon users got banned and jumped to it as an example. they got it back like a month later but when that shit happens the argument is realized to being more than just "make your own site." if the financial end were to be neutral things would be much better. same for infrastructure/hosting after hitting a certain threshold, the same way we put more limits on larger cable providers/phone companies.

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red sox 777 posted...

Again, that rule works unless substantively everyone is doing it. In which case the result is that custom cakes are simply not available for some people. That is where government has a role to play, IMO.

well no, government would have no role to play on a matter of people making custom cakes or not.
government is not something that should have the capacity to make you create something, that's your personal freedom.

shifting that to social media... puts a couple notable differences. your main comparison goes something like...
"as i'm the creator of something i have the ability to control the content on that something."

for a cake, a painting, things like that, no problem. you make the content that you want or don't want. and that's the first distinction: with social media, somebody else is making content. this, for reference, was something much more commonly seen and argued about on employment too: you are the creator of a company, you have the ability to control the contents of that company. with work, somebody else is making the content.

so how much do you control the people in it?
now we've spent centuries figuring out how to do that last sentence.
this honestly would be a much better starting point, cakes don't really have this issue since it's inanimate objects or plants, which we don't give much in the way of rights to. there's usually nothing to be harmed in the completion of a cake or a painting and if there is then sure, totally changes things. with the company/employee idea you can steadily go down that pathway and find things somewhat comparable. you'll also eventually get to the issue of public interest, which is the strongest argument. one Merkel agrees with even, thanks Germany!

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Jakyl25 posted...

Im mostly with Wang on this one. You cant refuse service, but you cant force someone to make art they disagree with.

If they refused to make ANY custom cake for the gay couple then thats discriminatory, but you cant force them to make a cake that acknowledges that two men are getting married.

I forget if the fact that it was two men was actually acknowledged on the cake though? Like if they just refused to make a basic wedding cake that would apply to anyone, thats discriminatory.

i think he did offer them a chance for other custom goods but i don't remember the specifics. like it may not have been regarding weddings or something specifying that it's a gay marriage, i just remember there being some other custom options somewhere in there.

i mean it's still discriminatory either way, like if you don't want to draw a furry character you're still discriminating against furries. but you still have the right to do that: nobody can make you draw, sing, write, bake, or otherwise create something you don't want to. that's a basic, natural right.

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Forceful_Dragon posted...

Everyone else also has access to custom made cakes

except a custom made cake now invokes my ability to create something.
and if i say no, i don't want to do that, then that's all there is to it.

something being available for purchase is simply a transaction of a good and money. there is no extra involvement beyond that, you don't even need any people beyond that. something that has to be custom made involves the actions and abilities of the person making it. that is now their right to act.

it's all in the same way an artist at a convention can have a booth where they're selling art and also takes requests for drawings. you have the right to buy what's there just as much as everyone else. he has the right to choose what he wants to draw or not.

DoomTheGyarados posted...

The right to refuse service seems fine until you realize that was a massive problem in the south for many decades (and may still be in some places)

It's easy to dismiss "it's a cake and art" but then someone will say the pancakes they make is art.

this right to refuse service still exists in every artistic field. if someone is making pancakes and selling them as is, then saying "no you can't have this because ___," that's one thing. but that's different than a custom request, which was the bakery situation. if you don't want to make it, you should not be forced to make it, regardless of the reason. otherwise you're infringing on my rights.

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i mean there's a difference in the two actual cases since the bakery wasn't even a matter of buying a cake, it was that it had to be custom made. meaning we're now talking about an individual's ability to do the art they want to do. cakes were readily available for purchase, no limit was imposed there, which is a good place to have that line: you can't make me do something but you can't stop them from buying what everyone has access to either.

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ninkendo posted...

https://twitter.com/briantylercohen/status/1347958529412370434

This season's minor villain already taken care of

season?
he's just the villain of the week and it's a new week now.
we're going sentai on this shit, weekly monsters, some with growths that may take two weeks as a possibly monthly gimmick. we're just 11 days into the year, there's room to grow on the shit scale.

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Corrik7 posted...

I am worried about people who get the first dose recently if there will be a second dose to get with Biden's new vaccine policy

i mean.
if it's NY then yes considering we just threw a bunch out because there weren't enough people, somehow.


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HeroicCrono posted...

Looks like Parler censored Lin Wood for expressly calling for violence.

i mean this one's fair.
that's a reasonable threat he was pushing.

like the capitol attack, while bad, wasn't nearly as bad as some are making it out to be. but what he's pushing? that would be.

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Jesse_Custer posted...

Sucks

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it's not 100% confirmed that she mutilated him but all the evidence we have does point that yes, she did.
and of course he couldn't do anything about it because, in her words, who's gonna believe him that some 90 pound woman hurt him?

the whole 'both were abusers' is pretty much offset by what she did and how extreme she was in it. by far, she's the worse actor.

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can't believe barron trump stole his dad's twitter accounts.


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i mean they literally just announced as this is all going down randomly on twitter that they're adding more nukes.
so it's getting buried under twitter bannings, naturally.

...pretty similar to the random article china had yesterday about how empowering it is for women to be sterilized.

random twitter shit does a good job of making noise over those stories.


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by the way north korea said they're adding more nukes.


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LordoftheMorons posted...

https://twitter.com/jorgearangure/status/1347583732451061767

Welp

lmfao
fucking brilliant.

somehow we didn't include people who were 75 and over before this?

amazing job cuomo.

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with google/android, yes. you can install the apk separately on your own.
apple, no.


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parler now with an ultimatum from apple, expected to be banned in 24h.
also banned from google play store.


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i'm more surprised there's a board for gun enthusiasts.

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htaeD posted...

Did Trump even use it beforehand?

Edit: I realize there is an easy way to check this, but fuck it I am a lazy man.

yeah he's used it.

red sox 777 posted...

I don't know which sites use AWS and I'm not dedicated enough to this boycott to find out.

like a third of the internet.
pretty much impossible.


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they'll just suspend the POTUS account until the 20th/get confirmation that Biden's in control of it. clearly doesn't matter what the role is.

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Jakyl25 posted...

Youre saying theres gonna be more right wing violence against the government?

i mean there might be but no, i'm thinking there's gonna be another power grab using terrorism as a backdrop, ala Patroit Act.


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red sox 777 posted...

I haven't really used Facebook other than Messenger in years. I guess I use it mainly as a place to store old photos? From what I've been reading on this board, it's gotten very very toxic.

Don't think Twitter's ever turned a profit though, which is why bankruptcy is even something that can be hoped for. I still have Amazon as the worst, but there's no hope of bankruptcy there obviously.

twitter has no profit, no. it's held up by the blue check class.
facebook is an all purpose social media. memes, shitposting, politics, news, all of it. there's no real specialization to it, it's closer to reddit than anything else.


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Jakyl25 posted...

Fitting for a President that bit people in the ass

oh don't worry, there's plenty more biting to happen. just you wait until government gets new laws and task forces in the name of "stopping terrorism" too as a result of that stunt in DC. "You wanted Patriots, well it's time for a second Act."

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LordoftheMorons posted...

Trump would have been immediately banned if Section 230 were repealed even in the absence of Wednesday's events. Without 230's shield they might be found liable for Trump's defamatory tweets, and he'd be an unacceptable legal risk.

i mean yeah.
pretty sure the repeal 230 stuff is really more of a reform 230 stuff. it's the right's defund the police, slogan-wise.


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nah i'll still say facebook is worse.
twitter's great for shitposting and porn.

facebook's got messenger and nothing else.

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eh, twitter stock being down a bit doesn't matter. on that end, it's friday evening, probably on purpose at that. it'll go back up. they're just following facebook's example and probably using the same excuse, though really it's just trying to take advantage as much as possible there.

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oh there's a lot of that. the 230 stuff is probably gonna be a sticking point for a while.

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LordoftheMorons posted...

I mean the precedent is "if you break our rules for four years, culminating in inciting an invasion of the US Capitol you will I guess be banned" which doesn't seem likely to apply to anyone else

nah, the precedent is regardless of position they've full authority over an elected official's access to a public square.
whatever you wanna wrap around that doesn't matter. only the power and results do.

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unexpected after facebook's bit.
that's a precedent that's gonna bite people in the ass.


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ExThaNemesis posted...

Also this past couple of months could not have possibly gone any more spectacularly well for democrats. Beat Trump. Take the Senate. Splinter the republican party into two so that there is now no more feasible chance of any republican winning major office in this country for the forseeable future. Any establishment GOP candidate is gonna be branded a traitor by the MAGA crowd.

And they didn't even have to cave to anything further to the left of fucking Joe Biden and Kamala Harris to get it done.

almost lose the house, it's a single digit lead now. if you flip 5 votes on any issue, you win.
lost every state election, making 24 states fully republican controlled in a year of redistricting.
take the senate back but with a 50/50 split where kamala has to tiebreak it.

it could've gone much better and both houses are poised to flip in 2022. you're underestimating the republican party and overestimating the dems' ability to take charge here. i mean we both agree that bernie should absolutely push ahead but it's far more likely we're gonna get do nothing dems part 2, though in fairness it won't entirely be their fault this time since they barely have a majority in both house chambers.

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10-15m.
it's largely playing mad libs and a couple fixes here and there.


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Greetings, Board 8. As you probably all know, USA really likes shopping.

I imagine those of you who are not Americans may be confused and lost about your new reality living in a Banana Republic. So I have come here to provide a tutorial on how to live in a clothing store. I have a vast experience in the subject, having lived my whole life in New York. So here are the tips:

1- It's okay if you don't know the name of the seasonal wear. That can change for a month to another.

2- The company may not be officially with a memester running social media yet, but some quips will be delivered, especially if you are posting with your real name. Never criticize a woman's clothing decisions if she has 300k followers or more because one of their followers may want to kill you. Don't get too personal when arguing with Facebook people but also avoid Instagram. No, by Instagram I don't mean the people who post cat videos, but the ones who post saying they wish they were the floor a girl's stepping on. Chances are they don't have any ability to harm you, but they wish they could, so don't taunt it either.

3- Never invest your money in long term fashion that don't have liquidity (are not easy to take your money back when you feel like) and are not corrected by simple sewing adjustments. You don't know when the next period of hyper-trends is going to be, so don't gamble your savings on that.

4- Do check for clearance sales, but don't expect your size, if available, to fit you the way the number says it should. That just doesn't happen all the time. In fact, if it did fit you, there is a good chance it was a returned item they couldn't put back on the rack because the season's over.

5- Regular sales are less important than they seem. Yes, your store is plagued with banners saying "30% off!" or "buy 2 get 1 free!," but that isn't always the best bargain, compared to how the sales are during certain predictable, cyclical times of the year. A lot of the time, the store will give attention to a random holiday to make you forget about the next cycle.

6- Get used to hearing people who shop at fancier stores to make fun about you outside. Also, when you travel, don't expect your clothing to be worth much, and prepare your answers so you are not rejected when you go to a club.

7- Adding to that, your biggest possible economic achievement is getting a knockoff from a classier store. So start checking your magazines, your social media, or even your window ads!

8- Try to get a store job if you can. Those provide discounts, and discounts are the most import asset in a third tier store. One good way to do so is befriend a manager, especially before they get promoted. The issue with that method is that you have a high chance of losing your job when the manager gets put in the nearby Gap. You can also go though the normal channels, which tend to have more stable jobs, though if you are in a third tier store, get ready for a huge competition for them. Everyone wants the discount.

9- Along your life, you will be met with a lot of people trying to offer you easy ways to get promoted. They are doing so because there is a demand, but don't fall for it. You will not get promoted unless you either get close to the boss or do something illegal. Focus on achieving a stable, no Karen life.

10- Your store probably won't become a trendy one in your lifetime. So getting involved in promotion is not a terrible thing, but don't be frustrated when the results are weak or non-existent. The deck is stacked against your store, and it will take centuries to change that. Keep going and fight for the future employment opportunities.

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'why her'

easy:
see the fucking video.

she willingly climbs up something to look in through an elevated window. nobody else did that and turns out, nobody else got shot.


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when they said fuck the police, they meant it.


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can't believe Corrik was really Commik all along.


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Corrik7 posted...

She is an active terrorist storming the Capitol. You don't wait to ask if she is armed. You assume a terrorist is a threat.

a potential threat means you are willing to shoot, it does not mean you have to shoot.
if they become a threat to you or another person's life/well being, then you shoot. but until that's a verified fact, you're making judgment calls and should hold back. like if you see them pull out a gun okay fair, you can reasonably infer the threat exists. but if they don't then... you don't. you go for the arrest.

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Jakyl25 posted...

Can we keep this as a general rule?

Go ahead and check out #MAGAMartyr

i mean that's the rule gun owners nationally are held to. okay, a little wider than that - unless your life's at risk, don't fire - but at this range we're basically talking guns. changes if it's melee range (21 foot rule) or explosives but that's not the conversation here.

and figures there's a hashtag for it. -_-

Leafeon13N posted...

She should have just complied. The shooter had reasonable belief that this crowd may have posed a danger to his life.

i don't have any objections to this with regards to criminal charges.


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in terms of justifying the shooting...

in hindsight, it would've been better if he showed restraint there.
but i can't really fault him for shooting her.

going in with the info we know, she was not armed and was just physically there. she was not a threat with lethal force and therefore not a threat who should have had lethal force applied against her. if she ain't using live ammo, he shouldn't either. now, did he know that? no. there's a mob, you're being stormed, you don't know what's going on, a random ass head shows up 8 feet in the air through a window, so you fired your gun. completely understandable but probably shouldn't happen.

now she's a martyr and he may have made things significantly worse. entirely depends how her death is taken, whether it's more her fault or his.


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Not_an_Owl posted...

The shooting has already started. Four people died storming the Capital yesterday.

one person got shot in the 4, by secret service for entering a room.
personally i'm hoping that one doesn't count and it's not the same thing being meant there. there's no back and forth with guns there/both sides aren't armed.

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i mean i'm in the camp assuming a lot of those cops either a) know that they are way outmatched here by people as they have zero backup, and b) are okay with it.

i mean if you're 1 cop, you don't shoot an angry mob.
technically there would've been more violence at night but by and large the rioters actually followed curfew and left at 6. end result, riot gear cops didn't need to do much and fewer shots were needed. if everyone followed curfew that'd be an improvement, sure.

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Jakyl25 posted...

How would you classify the guy who came through with zip ties

i honestly had to double check this because i didn't know who you meant.
uh...

ID him, check computer, messages, etc.
no reason i can think of to have zip ties in there unless he's trying to actually "arrest" (see: kidnap) people. closer you get to proof he's actually doing that, closer to that treason line he'll go with.

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DoomTheGyarados posted...

I may have misunderstood if you believe such trials are de-escalation tbh

oh trials totally are, you just gotta be precise with it too. like if the state is gonna mass round up people and put 'em on trial uh, no that's just gonna make things worse. but if you're more pinpoint, entirely different, you're trying to follow systems and checks instead of letting emotions take over.

like if your goal is trump specifically i'm not sure he has much of an actual defense here. the best one i've seen is basically more a case of people wanting to let it breath more and get passed this and like... no, something ought to be done. but you don't want to do something that sets off a powder keg either, so you gotta play it more delicately. of course, him being president is the biggest hurdle here but for that you figure out what state charges you can apply to him. same with the other thing i said earlier - if you wanna primary Hawley/Cruz or dig up dirt on other figures (e.g., Trump Jr.) and charge accordingly, all better options. there's a clear political motivation here and there's definite cause for concern when going after your political enemies. yet if there's major crimes they're guilty of, get 'em.

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Not_an_Owl posted...

Round up every one of the insurrectionists and put them on trial for treason imo. It's not like the cases will even be hard to make, there's evidence all over social media!

would be way more difficult than you'd think.
the guys who were trying to kill, like the guys who made the bombs, 100% qualifies for treason. won't have issue there.

but for most of 'em uh... well, no. they were not trying to kill anyone - they certainly had a chance to. they raided the offices, they got in the buildings, through whatever security. even though they broke their way in there were weird boundaries they put in place. by and large many are under the impression that they're fighting for the country and that the violent actions they're taking are necessary to protect the country. the guy who stole pelosi's header might be a nutjob who committed a bunch of crimes but treason... is a bit extreme of a sell. there's a genuine nationalist belief there and some noted restraint which get closer to the line than not but still shouldn't pass it.

besides, you've gotta ask at what point in a civil war is it a civil war. if you're gonna charge them with treason, cool. you're saying we're fully in it then. the typical line here would be once shooting starts, it's war. we gotta try to avoid that.

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DoomTheGyarados posted...

End of ww2 worked well though. Trials are not mass murder.

right.
we held trials to people who committed major crimes and that's fair. we didn't kill or exile them. we followed a process that would lead to a just cause and charged them with crimes that are inherently immoral and wrong.

...that would be de-escalation right now. if you want to broaden the scope of trials, fine, but you're still going to be looking for specific individual crimes and the appropriate punishment to that.

or i guess to simplify it.

kill them all - bad.
kill only the leaders - also bad.
exile them - also bad.

those are the ways to make things a million times worse and put you on a one way track to accepting and supporting the worst evils of man. that's how you justify massacres, genocide, and make absolutely sure that significantly more blood is gonna be spilled. any advocacy of those things or things similar is escalating the issue; advocacy of calming down spirits to follow a more mechanical process of known law is a de-escalation on the issue. now maybe certain areas on the latter still won't de-escalate enough but you at least work within the framework of putting things back together as opposed to ripping them apart.

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