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Error1355 posted...

STERO, this topic isn't about you.

You know error you default to this line a lot. But the reality is, Im discussing the topic at hand. I gave TC a thoughtful reply.

Other people decided to derail the topic by switching the discussion to be about me instead. This has actually happened quite alot lately, and I usually ignore it and just continue to stay on topic.

Part of the reason I do, is because I know as soon as I actually reply to someone whos attempting to derail that conversation by bringing up personal things about me that have nothing at all to do with the discussion at hand

that youre going to jump at the chance to reply in this manner. Well done

https://youtu.be/a9NIZOvfKpc?si=hwhJ4awsrI69-DCT

GranAures posted...

then gave that subreddit over to people who have been regularly banned that he helped egg on

There are false statements in this message. I think you know that too.

Axiom posted...

Yeah you need something better to do with your life. Gamefaqs is not that important

You use it. You like this place.

I also like the place. So I use it.

We all have our own topics of interest. Thats part of why I love GameFaqs. It allows you many different avenues to talk about lots of different topics.

DoesntMatter posted...

why the fuck are you talking about user acquisition strategy on the sex board?

Because it directly relates to the type of user that GameFaqs would have to target, and the type of user they would need to distance themselves fromand that leads into the type of discussion Im most known for.

One in which I have to be careful when talking about due to recent rule changes, and the removal of the sex board.

Umbreon posted...

I've never seen you talk about the growth of the site

I talk about it all the time. There are damn near 500 topics on the old sex board where I just preach user aquisition strategy.

Because "user retention", in your mind, doesn't involve this board at all.

That is very true, as are most of the other things youve said. But Im still here to have genuine conversations. If you engage me, you get real answers.

I enjoy talking about business and marketing stuff. User aquisition, growing communities, retaining users these are things I do in real life, so of course Im going to care.

You can call that an odd hobby if you like, and many people have

The only person you fool is yourself.

I fooled myself into thinking that you legitimately enjoyed our genuine conversations over the years.

Fool the heck out of myself

Sufferedphoenix posted...

It's usually not a good thing. There have been exactly 2 other users I cam do that with only one of which I'm cool with. The other was zues on the potd board.

It mean's that I'm consistent in my beliefs and points. Not just trolling like so many people accuse me of. So it's a compliment to my genuineness -- whether or not people view that as a good or bad thing. At least they know I'm not "faking it"

Drrobotniks posted...

It is genuinely vile and revolting how you act,

This is how I've acted for the past three years. Its not like I've suddenly adapted this "fandom shill" persono for the purpose of trolling. I've always been a "corporate shill" -- this is the stuff I've been preaching since before Fandom even owned the site.

Hate it all you want, but don't ignore reality and pretend like this isn't how I've always been. I'm not disingenuous. I believe the things I say. If I was disengenous I would have changed my positions at some point. But you can find topics of me going over User Acquisition techniques, and GameFaqs Demographics stats as relate to user growth as far back as the summer of 2021 over on the Hellhole board.

If you hate my views, and me as a person for believing them then like just call me "disgusting" or something. If they actually disgust you then that wouldn't even be trolling. But calling me "disingenuous" is ironically enough actually disingenuous of you given my history of dying on this hill.

Umbreon posted...

At this point I don't think it's a gimmick, he's just genuinely that way.

I've been preaching all of this for the past three years. You know that more than anyone, because the Sex board was a good source of my rants. My whole gimmick is has been to criticize the old GameFaqs regime's user aquisition, retention, and growth strategy. Like its literally all I talk about.

How the site needs to be modernized, with a mobile app. Financial viability involves social media integration, influencer marketing, developer tools for game companies. The current core userbase is too influential, and eats alive any new (younger/normie) user that happens to stumble across the place, therefoer before any ad spend can be allocated for UA campaigns things like the "current events" board needs to be quaratined, or at the very least highly moderated, so as to keep the vibe from flowing into the game boards.

Like, it just made sense to me. I figured eventually whomever owned the place would try to either monetize it, or just sell it off. RV sold it, and now Fandom is going to try and monetize. All the things I've been preaching since 2021 are finally coming to fruition.

I'm like a kid in a candy shop.

Completely agree with the rest of your post though. Blocking him is best. He doesn't show up for genuine conversation.

@Umbreon You know that's false. We've been having genuine conversation for almost three years now. Just because we don't see eye-to-eye or I rarely if ever switch my position doesn't make it any less genuine. Like do you honetsly believe all those hours I've spent talking to you, and the walls of text I've sent you over the course of our debate were just done for the purpose of trolling you?

That hurts my feelings. Legitimately.

TMOG posted...

Is Stero the same guy who went to a Cheech & Chong NFT party because he was convinced they'd actually be there, but then it turned out they just sent over a video instead like the entire topic told him was going to happen, and the whole party was just a bunch of crypto bros trying to scam each other around some weed?

To be fair I went to another on in LA a month later and they were there, and I got to meet both of them, while my friend smoked with them on a couch. The entire thing was a giant warehouse rave, with an open bar that also gave away capri suns and pop tarts. Was freaking awesome!

hockeybabe89 posted...

If we aren't going to be part of the plans, then this is like telling a fired worker to be excited about the new changes coming to the business. Why would they give a shit whether or not the company survives?

I guess thats a good point

hockeybabe89 posted...

Not a single one of us gives a fuck about the profitability of Fandom's investments

I know, I just dont understand why not. If the site isnt profitable then the site dies. Its just common sense.

There are only a few choices here:

• Fandom modernizes the site and successfully attracts a newer and more younger userbase
• Fandom closes down the site because its unprofitable

The option of just leaving the site as is to slowly but surely wither away just doesnt exist. Its not an option.

I understand being anti-corporate. But I just dont understand wanting to be so anti-corporate that youd actually wish for this platforms demise. I mean, I love this place and I assume all of you do as well which is why Im behind the first bullet point and not the second one

hockeybabe89 posted...

Ok, so that was maybe too much, but you still ignored the rest of my post and only quoted this. Explain why we should care about Fandom alienating a userbase to turn the website into something else completely. GameFAQs isn't a loved one. It's not going to warm our heart that the site may succeed whether or not we are involved in its life.

I guess nostalgia for what this place felt like with a 100 thousand people on it. Matches not the format or boards that we have fond memories of. But the community that use to be here?

This place is headed to an early grace if it doesnt attract more people. That we know. So I guess Im off belief we should be willing to work with the changes for the possibility that the platform can attract new uses, or possibly even reengage the older ones that have long left this place behind

hockeybabe89 posted...

And maybe the person who is friends with a bunch of unhinged lunatics that think they are personally responsible for destroying the website should not be making it.

This has nothing to do with the conversation, but Ill reply to it anyhow. You of all people know Im not friends w/ the group you are referring too.

Luigi_and_Tails posted...

Rant over.

Look man, I feel your frustration for watching a familiar place youve loved and enjoyed for so long change course and become a little less familiar. But this change is in an attempt to appeal to new (more modern) users change to something that has gone unchanged for so long can be scary.

But part of loving and respecting a platform that has provided you with constant years of joy is wanting it to succeed and thrive, and wanting younger generations to also experience the benefits of such an awesome website like GaneFaqs.

In short, I think we should want to see the site live on, even tho we may have finally outgrown it. But removing content isnt going to help that. If Fandom can attract new users to keep the site afloat, those are going to be users that arent going to have the benefits of enjoying your guides.

Ultimately, its just one less thing to keep them here, and ultimately less content hurts the platform and makes it harder for fandom to dig GameFaqs out of the grave that we all ultimately are responsible for digging by refusing to evolve with the times and push for modernization.

I guess you need to ask yourself a question:
Would I rather GameFaqs suceed or fail after Im gone?

LonelyStoner posted...

Well yeah. Most millennials in SF live with 2-3 roommates in an ok sized apartment.

I pay 2,800 for a studio

Its below my cities median wage. It goes quick too. Living in SF that lasts about 6-8 months

Jim Cornette at least until Vince Russo goes first

No thoughts on the beta and pre-reg options?

Revelation34 posted...

Would be well deserved in this case.

Just clarifying. You were agreeing with me that if someone suggested fandom just leave ganefaqs alone to bleed money without making any attempt to monetize it that such a person would deservedly lose their positions within the company due to the professional negligence associated with causing your employer to lose money?

Because I feel as if you didnt mean to agree with that statement, but technically thats what you did via the quoted reply

It can be used for Beta Tests too:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/a/a138d408.jpg
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/9/92646f8c.jpg

I would launch a mobile button, add these buttons to game pages, and then start brokering partnerships with developers to get them active

Standard Game Page
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/e/ee87132b.jpg

With Pre-Registration Buttonhttps://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/f/ff7b88c1.jpg

Button changes to this immediately following the games launch:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/6/6bf336df.jpg

Sufferedphoenix posted...

Is it bad I read this without initially looking at the username and knew who it was?

I will take that as a compliment.

Usually

GateOfDoom posted...

How unusual is this?

Very unusual.

voldothegr8 posted...

I don't know what's more pathetic, the comment itself or this insanity defending it.

Do you mind explaining which part of it you find to be insanity?

[LFAQs-redacted-quote]


I just dont understand how people are missing this whole thing. Like. Im sure everyone has had a job at some point or another. I don get the disconnect here.

Well I mean, DToast is just an employee. Im not sure why people cant seem to grasp this. Its almost para social in a way.

Meaning, folks want something to yell and scream at something so badly that they keep on giving executive traits to DToast that he doesnt even have.

Its all really just being done so that disgruntled users have a collective outlet by which to direct their rage at.

But in reality its like screaming at the Starbucks Barista because the company took away Pumpkin Spice Lattes.

In that regard, I could understand DToast not wanting a bunch of users that fall under his management to go on and be insulting his employer. It just looks really bad, and the blowback (whatever that might be) may actually end up unjustifiably falling onto him.

I mean quite obviously its not his fault that a bunch of users are being very vocal in their displeasure of Fandom, but at the same time it is a very logical assumption that his higher ups are eventually going to ask him please get you all to stop.

but DToast still isnt going to have the executive power to give into the users demands so it probably isnt going to stop, and that really is too bad.

Ultimately by making tons of topics that are basically just saying

[insert explicit language here] Fandom

youre just making a normal dudes life potentially miserable. Its not cool.

Its better to give legitimate constructive criticism/feedback. Voice your complaints, but in a way that doesnt get DToast pulling his hair in frustration.

Umbreon posted...

No, you're just an obsessed dude who thinks it's possible to bring Gamefaqs back to its glory days. With literal Fandom.

When they close down the fourms together, and they will, perhaps then you'll understand that what you've wanted all along is a time machine.

If that happens Ill buy you a beer

Umbreon posted...

On a board about sexuality, you almost exclusively talked about incels.

Well I talked about how harmful they are to growing and maintaining a thriving community. It does appear as if Fandom agrees given some of the recent rule changes that should in theory make it harder (if not downright impossible) for that type of ideology to thrive.

So I was on to something!

ssb_yunglink2 posted...

I dont think hes delusional. I dont think he honestly believes the shit hes been spewing regarding the fandom stuff.

Its true, I do believe the things I say.

[LFAQs-redacted-quote]


Correct. So they are faced with the dilemma to either

1. Try and repurpose the boards so they can be good user aquisition tools
2. Shut them down because they are a liability

I dont understand why anyone would rather they choose option number two

KajeI posted...

Now that's an interesting deletion.

This topic has taken a turn. Rather than discuss the topic at hand, folks want to derail the discussion to make it about the individual users whom are providing commentary that they disagree with.

There is no point in pouring any gasoline on those flames. When that stuff happens its fine to just recognize the discussion has broken down and exit had topic.

Thus the deletion, and now my exit.

Cheers yall.

DoesntMatter posted...

well if you don't want to put words in my mouth then you, uh, shouldn't put words in my mouth.

I really tried not to. That second portion is my opinion.

DoesntMatter posted...

no, it's not a spin, it's what literally happened

I dont believe it is. Under that pretense anyone who is employed by a company has doxxed themselves and therefore

I dont know how to finish that because I dont want to put words in your mouth or attempt insinuate something you didnt mean to say.

But DToast is definitely not to blame for people stalking and harassing him. People in general shouldnt have to worry about that, no less a paid employee of the company.

If the environment is cultivating this sort of behavior then steps should be taken to correct that

agesboy posted...

i can't even be mad at him as an individual because of how obviously corporate this whole shit is

i would absolutely not risk my job by objecting if my boss told me to shut down some political stuff on a gaming website. especially if it was some place i didn't really care about to begin with, and some reddit weirdos are sending me death threats over it!

the real asshole in this scenario is gonna go unnamed and unpunished because it's Good For The Company

Thats actually a much more realistic take on the situation

agesboy posted...

someone who had the power to change things should have made the feedback topic. the feedback topic is useless if the feedback goes to someone who can't enact change

No it isnt. This is how all corporations work.

DToast job is to take notes, monitor stats, make reports, present findings, then make suggestions to his managers on steps to take to make something profitable and then perhaps he gets allocated the resources to do so.

But hes not the decision maker. You cant expect the executives of a multi-million dollar organization to be chatting with CEmenits unrealistic

P4wn4g3 posted...

But DToast didn't follow internet 101.

That is the part people are missing. Hes not a random internet person. GameFaqs isnt a throwaway independent fan site even if thats what it felt like over the past couple of years.

GameFaqs is owned by a billion dollar corporation. It sold back in the day for 3+ million dollars.

Public facing employees of corporations use their real names. They have public facing bios, email signatures, linkedins, business cards, and company profiles. This doesnt mean that they arent allowed to also have personal lives.

There is literally zero blame on DToast here. The fact that the CEmen were braisen enough to quickly do this on the first place was a perfect case study for its quarantine.

There are thousands of gaming studios and media platforms with social media/community managers. They dont have to worry about being dangerously stalked and harassedbut this has quite literally happened to every community manager this platform has ever had.

Its a culture problem. Current Events was the foundation for the core users (our native influencers) that set that vibe and maintain that atmosphere. It needed to be contained in order for the platform to evolve into its next era

35 people are alive

adjl posted...

There's plenty of feedback. He's outright said they're ignoring it.

Hes an employee. Not the owner. He doesnt have authority to make sporadic changes on a dime or even respond and comment to some things.

Hes taking notes, and working in the backend. The fact that hes even interacting at all is proof of this.

Disgruntled GameFaqs users ranting and raving isnt going to suddenly bless DToast with a promotion so that he can make the series of executive decisions. All its going to do is make him apathetic in his duties.

This is common sense. I dont understand why none of you understand this. Its like screaming at the Starbucks Barista, and going so far as to key that college kids car because pumpkin spice lattes were taken off the menu.

chukklez17dc posted...

Do they think kids are going on fandom sites and not just watching YouTube videos

Its not about literal children who might be using the services, its about normies not all that familiar with internet culture.

Any paid user aquisition funnel is going to be dipping deep into mainstream society on account of that ad spend largely coming from social media platforms like Facebook, Instagram, and YouTube.

Therefore, you want the end of that funnel to lead to an atmosphere thats welcoming and easy to engage withas oppose to one that makes you shudder, and want to take a shower.

ConfusedTorchic posted...

he knew what he signed up for

He most definitely didnt, and I dont think he had a choice. Its insane to me that so many users are attacking him just for doing his job. Its the equivalent of screaming at the Starbucks cashier.

Provide feedback, not cowardly insults, and incoherent ranting

STEROLIZER posted...

Whos asking whos asking?

Can anyone tell me who posted in the quote Im quoting?

[LFAQs-redacted-quote]


Whos asking whos asking?

punkfanalways posted...

wont someone think of the shareholders!

I mean, as fans of the site we kind of need to. Because if we dont, they just take away our toys. Its the whole this is why we cant have nice things thing

[LFAQs-redacted-quote]


Who posted this screenshot?

I quite enjoyed the sex board, but you occasionally got a really disturbing topic on thereand if you were to go to the archival posts from 5+ years ago there were alot of topics made by people who openly, and willingly declared themselves to be incelsusually within the topic title itself.

So if Fandom is trying to rid the platform of stuff like that, then it was justified. I would have preferred they just added a purge stipulation to it like what CE has, so nothing remains up for long.

But I mean, sometime last year we had this dude posting 2,000 word essays back to back as replies in a topic about anime body pillows and they were beyond disturbing.

Anyone who remembers the topic Im referencing probably supports the no hornyposting rule to some extent.

Who posted?

GameFaqs might honestly be the first, as I cant think of any others.

BoxOfficeMojo was gutted by Amazon back in the day.

AwesomoSauce posted...

How much money would it take to buy GameFAQs? Kinda sad a rich game developer that grew up here didn't just buy the site and server hosting for the next 100+ years so it could be free for all.

If I made a game like Cuphead or Minecraft that became a huge hit and made me a multi millionaire I would have bought Gamefaqs CE and made it available and free because I like the site.

At least a million bucks