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Aguirre, the Wrath of God (1972)

The initial shots of the large group moving down the treacherous forested mountain paths is actually kind of cool. I imagine this was actually pretty dangerous for the film crew. Theres a shot of a cage of live chickens sliding down the mountain and crashing apart. I wonder if that was an accident caught on film or done for the movie There was a whole lot of stuff in this movie that I imagine was fairly dangerous.

So, this cast is immersed in a very hostile environment with no opportunity to find friendly people. The jungle and the river have natural dangers, supplies and food are hard to come by, and theres hostile natives that mostly want to kill them. They dont really have good means of protecting themselves from any of these dangers, so they press on while slowly being worn down and killed off by these dangers. Whats interesting is certain aspects of society are clung to in this environment by the group, when it makes really no sense to do so, and others have been thoroughly disregarded. They require a trial to convict Ursua as they follow the rule of law. They decide to declare themselves a new nation and appoint an Emperor to make what they are doing legal, as their mutiny makes them outlaws. As if this new declaration does anything to change that. The women are carried in sedan chair, in a place where people are constantly getting picked off by arrows and darts or even traps lain on the path. The Emperor feasts from a table full of delicacies on a large table on a tiny raft where everyone else is huddled together eating bits of corn. Logically, they are in an extremely dangerous area with no expectation of returning to modern society any time soon- so everybody needs to be well fed and ready to contribute to tasks and danger. But instead they cling to these customs of society to the detriment of the group. The movie doesnt even pretend that this is going to end well for them, as it not only said that no one survives in the opening crawl, but that El Dorado itself was a lie. The expedition was doomed to fail every time they refuse to turn back.

Aguirre himself is interesting. He has a keen eye for observing everything and keeping control on everybody. Im not quite sure why he has loyal followers he controls most of the crew through fear, but if that was the case for everyone I expected at some point as things get worse and worse he would be turned on, but that never happens. He's the great traitor. Aguirre is what makes the clinging to social norms so interesting since he blatantly and flagrantly spits on any sense of social normalcy with his mutiny and appointment of the new Emperor. Things go how Aguirre wants them to go, and everybody else just tries to rationalize why this is normal.

7/10

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And yeah, I'll absolutely double down on the idea that if you don't agree with *our* takes, then you are welcome to give your own thoughts. If you aren't willing to do that, then you *should* take your complaints elsewhere. If you are going to have an open discussion about a film, then feel free to join the discussion, but if you just want to do drive by "ugh, your opinions are so bad" posts then you are just being a child and your comments are completely meaningless.

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We did this for *ourselves*. You are welcome to read my *glowing review* of Stagecoach, but it's not like I'm aiming to meet some critical threshold that *you* have in your head in order for my opinions to somehow become valid. The idea that you hold that view is, quite frankly, delusional.

The point is to watch movies you may have not have already seen, or even ones you have seen before, and share our thoughts with eachother. That way, we can see how we all saw the movies differently, and perhaps learn something about the movie that we didn't pick up on ourselves. Or perhaps it helps us solidify our thoughts. if anybody wants to, we can continue to discuss certain points where we agree or disagree.

That's literally the best way to learn and grow from a critical standpoint. The idea that everyone should just have some correct review or opinions on a movie you've seen from the beginning is just absurd.

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Thanks for hosting this project! I've been meaning to make time to watch more movies since I feel like I've really seen barely any, and westerns is a genre I've written off in the past as not interesting. This really turned around my opinion on the genre and genuinely liked or even loved a lot of movies on this list!

That one guy seemed to think that this project is pointless since we "hate movies" or whatever and were doing this wrong, but this is really what art like films are all about - exposing people to new things that they haven't seen before. Whether we like what we see will vary based on our own preferences, but if you go in with a somewhat open mind there's bound to be something worthwhile! I found this list to be very worth my while.

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I had a tough time connecting with the rival gangs storyline. I don't think I even really kept track on who was against who. Clint Eastwood is playing both sides against eachother but I had no idea why anybody was even talking to him. That kinda hurt the movie a bit.

There was a lot of really great scenes though. Any shootout was good, and the burning of the rival gang scene was great. And the coffinmaker and barkeep guy were nice side characters.

Ramone was a pretty decent villain, though I think Ramone 2.0 was better.

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i bought rgbp at the top last time and get reminded how sad i am about this bag every time dk comments on it moving 0.0002 cents

suddenly i am in the money wtf

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Changing his name is real dumb. The voicelines either need to be deleted or rerecorded, and Reunion will forever exist.

Or imagine it won't. Imagine if they take it down and reupload with Ashe and Echo saying different names. Will people be sharing pirated copies of the original cut???

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There's a movie I'm surprised made it to top 10 too! I really respect that it made it this far. I may not have liked it that much, but it does deserve it.

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you know, throughout the whole movie, i was desperately trying to grasp on to something i might actually like. maybe there is some deeper meaning to the things Django does? maybe this female lead will earn her place in the movie. maybe one of these side hookers is actually going to do something interesting?

but it was when the innkeeper had to die that it was all over. i could feel it coming so hard. i knew it. this director is going to kill this innkeeper because he just can't help himself. he has to. he knows no restraint. he has no idea when violence is appropriate. when it adds or takes away from a scene. violence must happen at every possible opportunity. it's the only thing he knows.

so the innkeeper died, for like, no reason, and the 1/10 score was locked in. if the director had been able to restrain himself for just that one scene, i probably would have been somewhat moved by the ending, but it checked me out completely.

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I single handedly dragged The Magnificent Seven up a bunch of spots, and dragged Django down a bunch of spots! You're all welcome

Django SUCKED and I hated it.

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Shanghai Noon was OKAY

Young Guns is a BAD MOVIE

The Last Jedi is a VERY BAD MOVIE

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I really like Desperado. It's the exact right kind of meaningless action. A lot of movies (including movies yet to be revealed on this list) have gratuitous violence that doesn't really mean anything to the plot or the characters AND it's not really done in a fun or engaging way just for itself. It's just violence. At best, it's there to shock you.

The violence in Desperado often doesn't have meaning to the characters (though sometimes it actually does!), it's mostly just mindless killing, but the actual choreography and movement throughout these scenes are so engaging and fun, filled with gags and suspenseful moments, that it's elevated from meaningless violence to a key element and the highlight of the film. I think this is a GOOD MOVIE

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I liked the scene where the cool indian consultant shows up in his suit and examines the arrow and is just like "oh yeah, this is the troglodyte tribe, those guys are crazy. they don't even talk. they are cannibals and live in the mountains. I don't fuck with that. good luck out there homies. peace out."

also making the guy that got torn in half some nameless guy we barely know instead of one of the crew was cowardly

not as cowardly as me though. i looked away.

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i get my kanye news exclusively from Ian from the H3 podcast, so maybe this is wrong, but hasn't Kanye said in the past that he was dropping an album and then just.... never did?

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how dare you imply Hackers wasnt good

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this is a GOOD MOVIE

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The batman villians all seem to be one big joke that batman refuses to laugh at - SantaRPG

Why would you get assigned and margin called?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeMx67JlAmQ

this game is so bad that i'm gonna play more of it

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i'm most excited for the EVIL doctor strange

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The batman villians all seem to be one big joke that batman refuses to laugh at - SantaRPG

oh hey its my dad

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The batman villians all seem to be one big joke that batman refuses to laugh at - SantaRPG

So the Score (SCR) seemed like a big loser, I bought at $26ish a few months ago on hopes of lifts from upcoming gambling legislation in Canada, but itdropped to like $15 and stuck there for a long time. But last week it was announced that PENN is going to acquire it completely, compensating existing shareholders with $17 USD and 0.25 PENN shares, which is worth around $17 USD at current prices, for combined value of $34 USD, so prices are now hanging a bit below that.

Does anyone know much about PENN? It looks to me to be an operator of casinos and racetracks, so it makes sense they are acquiring the Score. I'm not that keen on being in a company exclusively focused on gambling though. I realize that seems odd considering the reason I bought SCR, but they are more than just that with their sports and esports coverage. I personally like using their apps. Their content can be a bit cringe but I think there's potential there. Owning PENN doesn't feel the same to me

Seems like an ez sell to me.

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i love mr mime. guard swap confusion nuking doesnt make any sense

i havent figured out how to make barrier or the aoe work but im sure they can be good too

it seems like he might not have enough going on to be really viable though. maybe if he was ranged.

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All NET does is win

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I only listen to podcasts when I'm doing something else. I listen to it at work in the office, or when I'm playing a video game that maybe doesn't require my full attention the whole time. IE I wouldn't listen during a shooter like Valorant or Doom but if I'm grinding in WoW or growing my crops in Stardew Valley I'll probably have a podcast on.

Listening to them in the car seems like not a bad idea but I find actually finding something to listen to and arranging it so it's playable to be too onerous for the short period of time driving takes.

That said, I do often have the associated youtube video up on a second monitor that I glance at often, which does add a lot. Bad Friends I've never listened to audio only - I've neverr thought of it as visually necessary to see their shenanigans in the studio but i do like watching them so maybe it does have an impact.

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The butthurtedness about these movies getting low rankings is honestly really strange. Nearly every western on this list is "considered one of the greatest westerns of all time" so they can all trigger this empty outrage

Zithers posted...

watching the movie isn't the same thing as giving it a fair shake and clearly going by the searchers write ups everyone is just expecting the old movies to be racist because that is the main takeaway.

then there's comments like this which I don't think is really accurate about the writeups at all

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Pokewars posted...

Can I deputize TomNook and Zithers?

these men are cowards - they won't stand with you when you need them.

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StifledSilence posted...

When I watched these movies, I felt hatred towards Native Americans. In Stagecoach, Ringo was shown to have kindness towards those treated unfairly, yet he gladly dispatched the Natives like rabid animals. Fast forward to The Searchers and I see more of the same. A grizzled John Wayne takes it to the next level and goes on a quest to find his niece, but when he doesnt like what he finds, his thoughts immediately turn to murder. He no longer sees her as a person, but as a rabid animal that needs to be put down. I saw this as John Fords last gasp to try and see if people sympathized with his Ethan character. Because you see, I believe Ethan IS John Ford. Fords masterpiece puts himself on the screen because he is frustrated by a country slowly coming to terms with their mistakes. He wants to continue the hate and Ethan is his vessel.

this is interesting. i dont know anything about John Ford, but my impression was that Ethan's hatred of Comanche was intentionally done as a character flaw that was consuming him. Would Ford be self aware enough to have Ethan overcome that to represent his own integration in society?

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inb4 poke ranks high noon #1

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one gunslinger stands alone to protect the old classics

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The batman villians all seem to be one big joke that batman refuses to laugh at - SantaRPG

Even if I thought Shane himself was more memorable and the fight scenes were good (which I do not believe are true), the kid was so unbearable I still have a hard time seeing this movie get past a 5/10 for me. SHAAAAAAAAAAAANE

I do think the homesteader dad was great though, and I liked the loudmouth guy that got himself killed. That's a good scene.

Re: Karo. I don't think the homesteaders stole the land - my assumption was that they were awarded it by the government or something, and the villains had previously had free access to the land for grazing their cattle and are now butthurt and feel entitled to it. Mclintock! had homesteaders arriving being awarded land the same way, and John Wayne similarly tells them to get lost (though he seems to be more genuinely warning them that it's bad land than because he wants it himself, which is what they assume)

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If you all three of you ranked the movies though then they'd be higher...

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The batman villians all seem to be one big joke that batman refuses to laugh at - SantaRPG

man, i tried listening to bolt cutters on board 8's recommendation a while ago, and boy was that a miss.

it's certainly unique, and if people like it thats totally cool, but to me, it was what i have to assume were literal nails on a chalkboard

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i'm shook

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The batman villians all seem to be one big joke that batman refuses to laugh at - SantaRPG

Coinbase go down but Robinhood go up >:|

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The batman villians all seem to be one big joke that batman refuses to laugh at - SantaRPG

I would bet against McLintock! showing up next, there's a much worse one word movie that's already been hinted at!

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i'm shook

at the very least, it was a lot more fun than some movies on this list

i'm curious - did everyone that ranked it low actually rewatch it? I would have shoved it to the bottom of my list too just from memory, but i'm glad i didn't. it was a breath of fresh ass. My only regret is that I should have split up the other comedies away from it instead of watching in release order

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If everyone ranked a move in 30th, it'd be 210 points.

The worst score is MUCH stronger than that, which means it must have got some pretty good ratings.

It averages out to an average rank of 24th! That must mean there isn't a widely agreed upon worst movie.

I'm sure *my* last place isn't the lowest ranked movie here though!

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Submitted!

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damn, that one executive really burned his business relationship with Blizzard to the ground ASAP the second he learned they did weird shit to one of his team

imagine if anybody at Blizzard had that integrity

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Definitely mix it up from different users IMO, whatever sounds most interesting to you

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Other Chris Chan isn't quite a sex criminal but he did do some questionable things while drunk to a friend who didn't ask for it then bullied her into taking it back when she came forward about it publicly years later

ironically Destiny comes out of that story looking like a good person

I don't know anything about the Chris Chan this topic is about other than that spoilered post and I think i will keep it that way

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correctamundo

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it literally doesn't matter if she's doing it nobly or not, and it's incredibly small minded to frame it to yourself that way

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RyoCaliente posted...

Both of these parties are in the wrong. Megacorp Disney trying to whine about the pandemic (especially given the outrageous Premier Access price of those movies) is ridiculous, but so is ScarJo going "boohoo I'm only making a couple of mil instead of many mil over this movie".

This is an objectively wrong post and you should feel bad for posting shit like this

I think people who say "it's hard to feel sympathy for a millionaire so who cares" are also wrong

She is completely in the right to pursue this. She had an agreement in good faith on sharing revenue, and Disney is intentionally squirming around it, in a way that is both morally wrong and, luckily for ScarJo, legally wrong. Even if you don't think it matters if ScarJo gets her payout or not, it's objectively good if she establishes precedent that companies like Disney can't screw people over by moving revenue to streaming services so they don't have to respect the contract

it's not that different from how Disney is dodging paying royalties to writers and other creators that are due royalties from Star Wars and properties in the Fox takeover. they just aren't honouring any of those contracts "because they didn't sign them" even though they acquired the property and are legally required to honour them. but since most of those creators, they don't really have a shot at fighting it. there's couple big creators that actually are fighting it and all the smaller ones will live or die based on how that goes.

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Peridiam is legit, he's respected by the community in his niche of Survivor/Big Brother coverage and has gotten plenty of shoutouts from the top dogs in the space (IE Rob Cesternino)

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I'll echo the thoughts in here about having a really hard time imagining how this fits in with the game, but believing they wouldn't do this without a good concept


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UshiromiyaEva posted...

Like, we s*** on him now, but until he got convicted people would still have hate people for going after Cosby in the same way as if you were trying to go after Mr Roger.

I'm curious how many people in here are aware that Cosby's conviction was overturned and he was released from prison, with a lot of people happy about it that think he was wrongfully convicted

(it was because of a legal loophole where he'd been granted immunity for testifying in another case and a later DA decided to ignore it, the conviction wasn't overturned because he's innocent or anything [because he's not])

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PrinceOfKoopas posted...

Yeah, that... demonstrates what I said! Nothing went "viral" until 2014 and that's when a bunch of "fresh accusations" happened.

The stuff that happened 8 years before was... a lot more quiet. And settled. Reasonable that Activision people wouldn't think about it in 2013.

Edit: As proof of what I'm saying, I'll point out The Cosby Show was still being syndicated on TV until the 2014 fresh accusations.

This post feels way more about proving that you are right about something than engaging with the actual topic.....

Anyways - that timeline actually sounds like it strikes the exact right balance for this Blizzard Cosby Chat to be really creepy.... Consider a couple of assumptions

a) if there was literally no reference in the public about Cosby's actions by 2013, then they wouldn't have heard about it, so there's no conceivable way that this could have been a reference the horrible things he did, and would just have to be a reference to the sweater and ugly board room that has now aged extremely poorly.

b) there's probably no way that a group like this would openly make this group and even tweet about it in todays climate of how blatantly obviously guilty Cosby is. That would just be horrible and attacked immediately

So for this group to be a reference to Cosby's gross actions, then 2013 would need to be in a sweet spot where it had been surfacing enough that some people had heard about it and would potentially make crude jokes about it, but not widespread enough that it would be so blatantly horrible and that they'd get cancelled for it

That time line looks like its in that sweet spot.....


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ghostcrawler no =(

i haven't' looked into it but from i've seen claims that there was Cosby stuff going around before that picture was taken. unless there was literally no Cosby stuff in the zeitgeist at that time i have a real hard time believing the sweater and ugly boardroom defense

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