Lurker > Guns_of_Verdun

Not gonna watch this one
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Harpie posted...

Money ez

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Nomadic View posted...

Maybe the old conservatives do. Generally speaking I would say that most young conservatives don't. Maybe not even most conservatives in general.

Okay but even then whats the connection for older conservatives?

Its not sterotypically true of older liberals.
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I mean being a conservative should mean you are pro small government, pro businsess and free market enterprise, pro minimum interference in people's lives. Pro civil liberty and freedoms. But then there's also all this baggage where you're supposed to also be anti-homosexual and anti-drug and anti immigration and pro religion (Even though Jesus was a super hyper liberal hippie)

I don't get how those things connect. Imagine if basketball players sterotypically hated dogs. It would be seen as really weird and unrelated.

Where is the connection between small government/pro enterprise and anti gays? If anything shouldn't the small government people be pro homoexuality and the the big government people be pro interference?

On paper anyway
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Kazi1212 posted...

People don't like things different from them, that's mostly what it is, a very primal reaction to difference. But who knows, maybe it's also fun and gives good feelings? Like judging an entire race of people might make me feel better about myself

That's sad
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Prejudging others based on race is bad. It's mean and doesn't help anyone. Just makes the world worse.

So why do people do it? Everyone knows racism is bad.

They should stop.
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TheFireRises posted...

So if you're a criminal and the cops stop you, they can find out you are a criminal then you get in trouble?

I... don't see the problem

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In any way
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Was it really far left?
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Tmaster148 posted...

prince_leo posted...

what do you want him to do? he says he's troubled by it and will end up voting for it, what more do you want?

Maybe not vote for the thing he is troubled by?

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All those anti Muslim tweets
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What's the difference between genocide and mass genocide?
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Its sad that the reason theu closed it down was "it's not economic" and not that it was utterly inhumane
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Didn't the ice bucket challenge lead to a massive breakthrough?
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Life Sympathy posted...

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AccentuateTheNegative

But it's often not even negative.
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iPhone_7 posted...

Unquestionable posted...

Remember that time Trump made that deal with Saudi Arabia involving large sums of money and weapons? Yeah no way that can come back to bite us in the ass *cough* Bin Laden *cough*

Trump would never do that. That's something crooked Hillary would do, not Trump. He's told us a million times that we should believe him.

Trump did it
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leverageblargh posted...

I've never seen this guy but anyone who calls themselves a critic is bound to be a colossal asshole

What's wrong with being a critic?
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Airhammy posted...

Mostly as ongoing jokes.

BOOMER WILL LIVE!

But this was the origin of that joke.

It doesn't hurt Independence Day at all that they showed Boomer living
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Like in independence day he dedicated like 5 minutes of the review to making fun of the fact it had a 2 second clip showing a dog surviving an explosion.

What's wrong with that anyway? It was a cute 2 seconds.

Or like in Mortal Kombat he complains there's too much fighting..... in Mortal Kombat
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NOM posted...

Coming to the bitter realization that I'm nothing special and no one will remember me when I die.

:(
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In your life?
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They also get shot by the police and held down by the government
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DarthAragorn posted...

Then Logan, for sure. Only trilogy I can think of where each movie is better than the previous one.

Star Wars dude.

Both trilogies come to think of it
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Obviously indiana jones and star wars

Somewhat Lord of the rings and back to the future as well

What else?
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philsov posted...

If you're suggesting that the "ritual" is 'man asks woman' then that's not only false even for straight couples, but also never applicable to samesex couples. So to answer your question there is no ritual. You've got a round hole and we're a bunch of square pegs.

Gay people go over the proposition ritual.

I felt more loved in that moment than I had any other point before in my life.

Begging your pardon sir but don't you think that is an effeminate thing to say?


Asherlee10 posted...

Guns_of_Verdun posted...

I didn't say they should. I asked how they propose.

I mean how would you react if a man proposed to you?

Yes, you did ask how we propose. But in the post I quoted, you questioned "why even do the ritual at all?" Again, just because all the heteronormative practices do not match up to homosexuals doesn't mean we should forego proposing or marriage for that matter.

It would be strange if someone I was not dating proposed to me. Why is that relevant?

I meant a man you have been dating for years
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If not inferior, they why would being perceived as "the woman in the relationship" be insulting?

Because they are male. Would you not be insulted if someone got you a bra, tampons and lipstick?

you think men who get proposed to are "less of a man" or something?

Yes.

Because asking someone to spend the rest of their life with you and stating that you'd like to spend the rest of your life with them is a very powerful statement, hopefully met with positively, and then officialized with vows in front of friends and family while also granting quality of life boons to the couple, as a couple, with regards to all manner of legal, medical, and logistical rights and privileges?

This explains marriage. not proposing rituals.


Asherlee10 posted...

Guns_of_Verdun posted...

But then why do the ritual at all? Why not just not bother if you deny the tradition exists?

"We traditionally do the tradition but we don't follow the tradition." doesn't make sense. Why propose at all?

Just because gender roles are not the same in homosexual relationships as they are in heterosexual relationships doesn't mean that homosexuals should completely abandon marriage. That is completely absurd.

I didn't say they should. I asked how they propose.

I mean how would you react if a man proposed to you?
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philsov posted...

You're trying to apply heteronormative standards to a homosexual relationship. Stop. It just doesn't work that way and neither party sees the other as inferior if that's the implication you're going for.

Not inferior but female.

Don't tell me you don't see those as different things, jeez.

Asherlee10 posted...

You should probably stop trying to force heteronormative traditions onto homosexual relationships. Yes, there are a lot of similarities between the two, but in this case it is not. There doesn't HAVE to be opposite gender roles in gay relationships.

But then why do the ritual at all? Why not just not bother if you deny the tradition exists?

"We traditionally do the tradition but we don't follow the tradition." doesn't make sense. Why propose at all?
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Asherlee10 posted...

philsov posted...

Whoever wants to first, does.

This.

And like some straight couple, there is just a discussion of marriage between both people.

But that's the point. Whoever does it first is calling the other a girl effectively.
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What a thing to say
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Smart. Everyone is distracted

Trump played you like a fiddle
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Traditionally the man proposes to the woman for traditional couples. At least that is the ritual.

But with gay marriage the sexes are the same. So if a man proposes to another man. Isn't that kind of insulting the reviecer of the proposition? Basically saying "you're like a girl and i am the man"

Equally with lesbian couples isn't it kinda insulting for the one proposing? Saying she is like a man at least by tradition.

Wouldn't a lesbian couple both want the other to propose and a gay couple be pissed if the other proposed?

I mean the tradition still exists. Gay couples wear wedding rings so someone proposed.

How do they work it out?
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Veggeta X posted...

cobain27 posted...

Originality isn't as important as the execution, which is really where The Last of Us shines.

Which is what? The voice acting? The pace? Give me some details because the "execution" is still similar to me as you would predict in a game such as this.

Cool story were interesting people go on an odyssey across a new and interesting world while we learn about the people in it and their struggles before witnessnessing the snap and decline of a man who has lost everything and is unwilling to do so again after scraping a life back.

Also it had decent if nothing special combat and crafting to keep the game going.

It really was a well executed game. Ellie is one of the few actually likable "escorts" in video game history
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Scorsese2002 posted...

ut they are holding these things back because now is the time for Uncharted: The Lost Legacy, now is the time of Chloe and Nadine to Shine.

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AugustAdoulin posted...

God forbid someone's opinion on something change.

Did it change though?
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frogman_295 posted...

Obama is the man.

Well until Trump took his place
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The official story from his administration was that he was anti gay until after he was pres when his daughter's changed his mind.

Unofficially he has been stated to be pro get since he wad a teenager and just lying about anti gay views when he was a senator and early prez due to popular opinion.

Pinch of salt though because he also stated to secretly be a gay Muslim athesist from Kenya. So who knows really.
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Antifar posted...

Why does he keep doing this to himself
https://twitter.com/kurteichenwald/status/873572423735676929

This is just sad
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coolboy11 posted...

when she is out of office in a few weeks/months she won't have to worry about rewriting them than....

She's not going anywhere
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Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...

Mal "NATO wasn't formed until after 9/11" Fet

lolwut?
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JE19426 posted...

So how come all the Tory leaflets I got were about May, Corbyn and the other party leaders, while the leaflets from the other parties were about their local candidate? The nation media always talks about the party leaders, the Tories just decided to go along with them this time.

Because whoever made your local Tory leaflet was dumb
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Reminder. Us "liberals " are more get right then the UKs far right parties like bnp
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pinky0926 posted...

Bluster posted...

It seems like a minority of the people are happy with the results.

I don't take anything for granted anymore but I guess without a clear winner everyone is feeling a bit defeated. Silver lining is May ran the worst campaign ever and must be kicking herself over the silly decision to call this election.

Clinton, goldwater
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Funkydog posted...

Guns_of_Verdun posted...

Everyone does. News today is internet and that hates may because she hates it.

Well, yes. That was my point.

People felt compelled to just vote against May no matter what due to what she wants. If anyone is to blame for it, it is her. Not the "liberal media"

May didn't make it may vs CORBYN.

The media did.

Funkydog posted...

Parappa09 posted...

i can't believe how may is still getting away with this

it's incredible. absolute denial at the fact she's fallen flat on her face, and there's no public outcry from the tories since they're scared they'll lose out even more in the next election

also the fact that she's spineless, soulless and uncompassionate, working with DUP who are the same

this sounds far too familiar to what's happening across the pond

DUP are far worse. Makes me feel sad for our Irish brethren who will be kept in the past and not able to (easily) take advantage of what we consider basic rights.

The DUP will get a lot out of this deal. It won't be like the lib dems.

It's smart of them to take it. The alliance and ability to mess with government > 10 seats
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Everyone does. News today is internet and that hates may because she hates it.
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Funkydog posted...

Guns_of_Verdun posted...

Doom_Art posted...

that must be why they lost seats?

Yes because people turned it from "local seats" to "Do you love May!?"

Smart move by the liberal media but it's at the cost of local communities. You saw it in this topic. Nobody was thinking about conservatives or their local MP. They were thinking "Man I hate May!"

Blame Mays comments after the terrorist attacks, not other stuff. What she wants is terrifying enough to warrant it.

Besides, wasnt most media in strong support of her? The top papers were, as I recall.

Daily mail is popular but preached to a crowd.

Like saying the media loves trump because of Fox news
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Doom_Art posted...

that must be why they lost seats?

Yes because people turned it from "local seats" to "Do you love May!?"

Smart move by the liberal media but it's at the cost of local communities. You saw it in this topic. Nobody was thinking about conservatives or their local MP. They were thinking "Man I hate May!"
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They're covering their tracks because most UK pundits and predictors called the results wrong
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ROD posted...

Funkydog posted...

ROD posted...

Aren't those the racist/brexit ones?

BNP is the widely accepted racist party.

So you guys basically have 2 GOPs? -_-

ukip is more libertarian
Bnp is more gop
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SerperiorThanU posted...

Are you gonna pay?

You cheap ass
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