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Not_an_Owl posted...

It is completely miserable to play as melee or tank. Many mechanics force you to disconnect from the boss at awkward times, and unlike most other fights that are designed to force melees off the boss there aren't many great ways to work around it or design strats to regain the uptime. As tank specifically the tankbuster is very likely to just kill you if your co-tank isn't consistent on swaps or if you accidentally get hit on another mechanic. The fight in general is very chaotic and if your group isn't disciplined it's very easy to get hit by something you're not supposed to and die as a result.

Maybe "worst" is too strong, but it's certainly the fight I dislike the most.

Hard disagree on this

Speaking as a tank, e6s is by far my favorite fight of the tier precisely because there are ways to force uptime on it. Nothing feels as good as just brute-forcing the Storms of Fury with cds, using bolide to gain uptime, and just generally no-selling everything Rakta tries to do. It's so optimizable it's very fun to do! E8S is the shitshow. I detest everything about optimizing it except the swag strat with dashes on Akh Rhai after Icelit Dragonsong.

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The gender does change, yes.

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these days im making my money by selling e8s clears lmao

It's still crazy to me to realize that I legit can play good enough to carry bad players and get paid several millions by doing so

Things have really come a long way from my days of dying to Titania 24/7

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BK_Sheikah00 posted...

Then what's the hype with Ishgardian Restoration?

Ishgard restoration is a way to save gil while leveling crafters, because it nets you money as you work (and glams, and other things), in exchange for being fairly more time intensive. To most people, that's a good trade.

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The comments above got me wondering if Lilac from Freedom Planet would get more respect, or if the 'Sonic Suck' is so strong it extends even to inspired-by games

Now I'm kinda curious, I don't know who I'd take if they fought each other

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Bane_Of_Despair posted...

So I may have started this a few days ago, we'll see how long I go. I'm on Leviathan which looks like nobody else is on, which is fine tbh because I'm usually a solo player type of guy

In terms of main quests I just got the one that lets me use airships to travel outside Gridania. I'm a level 18 Lancer.

You're on the same Data Center so you can play with everyone else (I think, do we have people on Aether/Crystal?). Don't worry about that. All I'll say is please have patience with the game starting out. It really doesn't put its best foot forward, but it all starts finally paying off come Heavensward. Try to take it easy as a sort of 'side-project' kinda game until you start getting close to that point to avoid burnout. It gets a lot of people who try to rush through ARR to get to the good bits.

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RyoCaliente posted...

People who talk about a Star Wars movie and call it the "worst movie ever" have clearly never seen Anaconda 3, Transformers TLK, 2015 FF, '04 Punisher, Jaws 4 or the second Mission Impossible, just to name a few.

And I don't even like Star Wars.

I take offense to MI2 being called out here, it's a solid movie with amazing fight choreography and a consistent plotline. That's two things RotS doesn't have!

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If it's a bunch of soundbytes, the Unreal Tournament announcer is up there. When you're so memorable you get stolen for one of the biggest games in the world, well, that's pretty indicative I'd say.

If we're talking an actual performance...really, is there any other choice but Dracula in Castlevania: SotN (or possibly, Richter)? "WHAT IS A MAN?! A MISERABLE LITTLE PILE OF SECRETS!" is so iconic people who never played that game are aware of it.

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Chaeix posted...

can someone link me to the draftmerx wiki

http://mercs2015.pbworks.com/w/page/117865062/Draft%20Game%20Reference%20Page

Rules extremely subject to change. More to come soon, ideally.

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ninkendo posted...

(Also North America only)

Aww man, it's not a global release? Guess it's VPN time then

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UltimaterializerX posted...

I dont care if anyone in the PC Master Race crowd gets fucked over.

The anticheat was implemented on consoles too >_>

And then subsequently removed! Apparently Id was not happy with the performance hits, so they're taking it out and looking into other options, because that's what a classy company does. Everyone wins!

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DOOM really sticks out in this year. It's the only game you can look at and go 'holy shit, absolute top tier release', and even then, it was kind of a miracle that it was that good. Everything else was either another sequel, or terribly blah.

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Posting here to note Denuvo DRM didn't get implemented a month after release for Doom Eternal. What did get implemented was Denuvo Anticheat, which is a very standard anticheat program. It had a botched implementation because of some fuckery with bad driver interactions, but that's not really the same as good ol 'game shits itself in terms of optimization because this exists' Denuvo DRM, doubly so considering Id software is a company that sells videogame engines and their flagship game crapping out in terms of performance is financial suicide.

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NowItsAngeTime posted...

I was getting used to the game so getting to level 15-20 felt more more like 5-10 hours

That's fair, yeah. It takes a bit to adjust to it.

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NowItsAngeTime posted...

I played till like level 15-20

It was slightly more fun than WoW but not by much

The story was kinda better... but not by much

Once again if I play that much for a story AND gameplay to be good AND I have to pay a monthly fee for it.

No thanks.

You quit after like two hours? That's kinda harsh, but eh. I understand not liking the start. XIV unfortunately really does have a weak beginning. It's just that the combination of how long the good times last once you get to them, plus how strong they are, makes it a great value proposition. But if you can't get to that point...yeah, it wouldn't be worth the investment.

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streamofthesky posted...

Which one is it?

Were the Wii U owners such a tiny amount of people that providing dual console releases (like Sony does for years into a new console's life for the previous one and Nintendo had no problem with doing so before now) would make little difference to Switch sales?

Or were they a significant enough consumer base that it's worthwhile to continue to develop games on both systems to sell to them?

You can't have it both ways. So sick of people saying in one breath, "lol, almost no one owned a Wii U!" and then in another breath, "there's just too many of them! If Wii U owners weren't forced to upgrade right away, the Switch would've died!"
Without the slightest hint of cognitive dissonance.

...Who says the latter thing? The Wii U was a dead-ass console. It put up absolutely wretched numbers every single month and basically never sold. Nintendo abandoned it because there wasn't anything to lose from doing so. There's a reason every single title, and I MEAN every single title worth a shit the Wii U had has been ported to the Switch or other systems, sans Xenoblade X which has licensing issues.

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NowItsAngeTime posted...

I've always hated the idea of "Hey this game gets consistently fun... when you get max level. Just 50+ hours!"

50+ hours for the game to be consistently fun? Hell fucking no.

XIV doesn't take endgame to get fun. It has a weak starting story, but everything afterward is very very good and worth the ride. That's kind of what distinguishes it from WoW -- the story is worth a good goddamn so it functions perfectly as a single-player experience for the most part.

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PostContestUlti posted...

The game was so bad when it first came out that they blew the world up in-game and started over.

That is not the sign of developers who care. It is the sign of developers who are incompetent.

Correct. Fortunately, the developer who was an incompetent, useless hack got fired, and the guy who replaced him raised the dead. Like...to give you an idea, the old lead dev was the dude who made FF3 DS. That's really all that needs to be said about him. Naoki Yoshida, the current director, is not that man, and had no connection to 1.0 beyond being asked to save it.

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I'm sad you lost friends like that Ulti! My best online friend persuaded me to try XIV and it was honestly one of the best gaming experiences I've ever had. The core difference, and I think why that game deserves a try, is that the people who are making it really, really care. It's tempting to compare it to World of Warcraft, since it's often touted as the only game that has a shot at being an actual WoW killer, but it's really not the same thing at all.

I think one of the main ways to explain the difference is that the Creative Director and Producer of XIV has stated, repeatedly, that he sees the game as one people can play as much as they want, then drop for as long as they want, and come back to it and see no penalties, because games are about fun and not about an endless grind. WoW is made to keep you playing at all times, no matter what. XIV is different in that regard. It restored my faith that Final Fantasy could ever be good again in a way no announcements for 7 Remake could, and the fact the aforementioned director and producer is now tapped to headline FF16 fills me with excitement. If anyone can make another unambiguously great mainline FF, it's him. I really do recommend trying it when the main quest update launches in a couple months, as it will trim down the main barrier to entry, which is the kinda shoddy base game plot. Everything afterward is just amazing, and is everything you love about FFs. Promise. I never played another MMO for more than a couple days, but XIV earned a year's worth of subscriptions from me for all the amazing work it's done.

Surprised you didn't mention FF13 in that writeup and whether or not it had more reason to be in there instead given that game got two sequels. Speaking of which, I personally would've preferred FF13 in the bracket over a game that launched so badly the developers apologized for it and rereleased a new version a year or two later which began with the old world being destroyed or something along those lines. And I didn't exactly love FF13, myself.

No one cares about FF13. XIV has managed to create a villain that toppled Sephiroth for the title of most beloved antagonist amongst the fanbase. Absolutely no contest for which game deserved to be here.

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UshiromiyaEva posted...

Ah, didn't hear they they were going to make that change, cool!

Still one of the cheekiest bomb drops I ever saw:

https://twitter.com/ArcSystemWorksU/status/1240459490480123904

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Safer_777 posted...

The trick to make money is to buy Estate as Kiryu, then going to his office and waiting, since you get money in real time. For example let's say you get money every 10 minutes. So go to the office, wait 10 minutes, collect the money, go buy more estate, repeat. Just play something on PC or Tablet while waiting for the money to come in. Don't do it all at once though I suggest.

No, the trick is to smash the Mr. Shakedowns

Does require some git gud tho

Raka_Putra posted...

goddammit I had a blackout and my progress is wiped

who the fuck doesn't have autosave in 2020 or whenever this game was released

Fucking stupid

Game does have autosave tho. That's weird!

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MechanicalWall posted...

In my mind it's just like, if there's a 2 game per series cap, does FFXIII have a solid argument to have been included over XIV and XV? I don't really feel it. It's not necessarily that I think it'd have performed worse than the snubs I did include, but that series quota was filled satisfactorily.

I may be somewhat out of the loop here though. More and more I'm seeing people have kinder things to say about XIII, and idk if XV caused that or if time has helped those wounds.

It's XV being even worse. NOBODY gives a shit about XV. There's a reason XIV's Shadowbringers expansion was considered such a big deal, after years and years of dogshit FF games and the latest mainline game being flat out unfinished, we finally had one that legitimately brought the magic back again.

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Halo Reach is a very good Halo, and the last truly great one (plus a swan song for Bungie's Halo era in general). It's no surprise it made it in, especially since it finally arrived to PC not long before the contest nomming process began. Blops is the surprise, I didn't know anyone thought that highly of it.

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I can see that, the problem is like, what do you pick otherwise? Draven epitomizes the wackiest contest we ever got. Like the only other contender is Squirtle beating Cloud because it was such an out there result, but literally no one cared about that.

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Wanglicious posted...

the PC audience has gone up as the PC market has gone up.
but shooters and sandbox games remain something this site rejects, which makes sense; you aren't using a text guide on the former and while you technically can on the latter it really rose with videos and wikis too.

Hard disagree on the former, Doom and Deus Ex benefit a lot from guides just to name two examples, and they suck here. Latter yeah, that's absolutely on point

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bullhogderbaxer posted...

Turtles in Time is actually pretty complex compared to the previous TMNT games but still pales in comparison to Streets of Rage.

This is a correct take (with the caveat TiT is still a masterpiece)

Basically you have about three levels of Beat em up quality

Old TMNT/Final Fight/SoR1 (terrible depth, mash button to win)

Final Fight 3, Knights of the Round, Turtles in Time, etc. (some depth, still kinda superficial though)

SoR2/3/4/Remake, Guardian Heroes, etc. (actual complex mechanics and/or sophisticated enemy manipulation, has a meaningful gap between skill floor and ceiling)

All the SoRs are extremely good and very different from each other so they come strongly recommended if you want to see what a good but more classic BMU is like! They also have incredibly soundtracks too, as a bonus, so the experience is amazingly pleasant.

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HeroDelTiempo17 posted...

Uhhh most of the people I went through the story with thought it was Vauthry. People really thought it was the lion? It's a barely edited version of a 60 dungeon miniboss!

I hadn't done that dungeon by pure accident. So I had no idea it wasn't a new model!

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We all thought the lion was the one. We got baited!!

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Yes I know this is the same flawed logic everyone uses. Doesn't change what I said. The AP and item drops make you far stronger than enemy levels can keep up with, plus many bosses have fixed levels.

The answer is to learn Card and THEN battle. Carded monsters give AP and drops but no EXP.

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KingButz posted...

Just looked at Fell Seal. The character models look so unappealing that I don't know if I could get over that.

They're surprisingly charming in action, if it helps any. There's one particular NPC who has a finger wag emote which gets me every time because it conveys his personality perfectly.

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For me:

T13
T9
T11
T12
T10
T8
T7
T6
T2
T1
T5
T4
T3

Twintania bad fight, takes forever to unsync

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Fell Seal is the correct answer

It's FFT, except without garbage class balance, which basically makes it utterly perfect. The plot is not as good and it's obviously not as pretty, but those are the only two knocks against it. In every way a game's systems can be good, it excels. I've shilled it to five different people with widely varying tastes (from FFT diehards to people who never touched an SRPG before) and they all loved it. It is, legitimately, the future of the genre and any SRPG that doesn't take cues from it going forward is an actively bad game. Like, it's so good a friend of mine pushed forward a game design thesis based on it. How many games can you say that about?

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Luis_Sera89 posted...

Yeah, definitely try out BCoB at level 50 if you can assemble a party for it. There's a reason it's excluded from roulettes (and not just because it's too difficult for most players to be able to beat); it's unlike any content that's come since. Certain abilities and mechanics it was balanced around don't exist anymore, although the Echo mitigates some of that. I'm glad I went through it at min ilvl the first time through, I don't think it would have had the same impact if I were just watching cutscenes and then immediately dps'ing them down.

Thirding (because I was part of this group). Min ilevel coils was an absolutely wonderful rush. I think nothing has topped the sense of wonder I got from popping LB3 during Bahamut's teraflare as the music swells yet. Just absolute perfect harmony of gameplay and story right there as we all tried to do our desperate best to mitigate massive damage.

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CasanovaZelos posted...

Is this a single sitting type of game like the originals?

Yes if you're good enough or playing on an easy enough difficulty, maybe not if you're on Mania. I dived right into Hardest (second highest difficulty, yeah I know) during lunch and it took until just now to beat the final boss. It's a game that makes you earn your victories for sure.

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Played a bunch over lunch -- haven't unlocked the retros yet (or Adam) but yeesh it feels like there's serious character tiers in this game

There's probably some tech I'm missing but Blaze and Axel seem terrible compared to Cherry and Floyd. Who thought not giving them dashes to get in on enemies was a good idea?

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BK_Sheikah00 posted...

Man, E8 music is so good. It would be a shame if wiping to it night after night made you sick of it. But I love it so much.

The good news is you don't get sick of Return to Oblivion because it's part of the actually engaging chunk of the fight

The bad news is Footsteps in the Snow gives me PTSD now

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Johnbobb posted...

Dibs on [merc from a cartoony game that nobody will respect as much as me]

I take offense to this because I exist

I'm like the #2 cartoon game character respecter

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don't tempt me y'all

There's actually sufficient free time to do it too

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DeathChicken posted...

Yes, but can Doomguy pay off a debt to Tom Nook?

He's already survived the pits of hell for centuries, dude just works and overtimes until it is done

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Jesus doom

OK, so I'm spoilering this cause it's super endgame shit but I just HAVE to talk about it because I can't even believe what I just witnessed

So the final boss of Doom Eternal is the Icon of Sin. That's not a spoiler. What is a spoiler is that the Icon of Sin is covered top to bottom in demon steel, moves around, is the size of a fucking skyscraper, can do shit like attack you with a tracking laser that's three times your size and just as wide or call down meteors or just set the entire fucking arena on fire because why not, AND THE SLAYER KILLS IT. WITH NO GIMMICKS. HE KILLS IT SO HARD HE KILLS IT TWICE, first time by systematically wiping away all its armor plating with nothing but pure gun and then beating the fuck out of it so hard all that remains is loose flaps of skin and exposed bone, and then he finishes it off by plunging a soul cleaving laser sword into its fucking brain and walking away like a badass. Oh yeah, and the boss can just fucking punch you so hard it instantly rings you out of the arena and not only can you recover like it's fucking Smash Bros, you can just tank through it like it's not even there.

I was mostly kidding about him being a 7/week earlier but now I'm deadass serious. I just cannot see Samus or Master Chief or any of our other 6/weeks we take as benchmarks beating this final boss even if you gave them the (fully lore-justified) health refills by murdering shit the Doom Slayer gets. Absolutely insane how hard they went on hyping him, I think even Nero got less love in DMCV.

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Shadowbringers
Saudade
Rapal

Today's a very good day. The first match is of particular note. Bad End Syndrome is a great song, and I like it quite a bit -- but it's up against the only song in this bracket I'd bother to do a lyrical analysis for, and in fact, did. Shadowbringers isn't just buttrock or anime guitar or whatever its detractors want to call it. It's abso-fuckin'-lutely amazing lyrical storytelling, weaving together six whole years of narrative into a package that elevates the scene it's in to something transcendent. If you have a bit of time to kill and are curious about why I'm so high on it, please give this a read. It's my meager attempt to convey why, exactly, this theme is such a gamechanger for me, and so many others: https://old.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/f5mwww/this_is_your_story_a_lyrical_analysis_of_the/

(For example, banshiryuu asked 'why make a rock version of Eternal Wind' and that's covered! It's a long read, but consider it my version of the megaposts others make, targeted specifically at one song that deserved it.)

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Also he has a laser guitar

he has a LITERAL laser guitar

This game couldn't be more metal if it came with a free Slayer concert and a handbook on how to perform satanic rituals

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Finally got around to playing Doom Eternal

Doom Slayer 7/week and I'm not budging from this, I just fought three demons equipped with a plasma cannon, a machinegun and a shitload of missile batteries on tank treads (two of them at once) and FUCKED THEM UPPPPP

I feel like I'm sonic and my enemies are mario goombas at this point, it's absolutely fuckin ludicrous

they even gave him bullet time cause why the fuck not, #YOLO, he's like every single gunslinger we have but at once and dialed up to 11

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UshiromiyaEva posted...

"Ecstatic about ReMind" is a very strange thing to read regardless of the context.

Turns out people who are all about the gameplay love that update because it has amazing gameplay! It's pretty well accepted that Limitcut's bosses are the best in the entire series.


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pjbasis posted...

It really doesn't. It does include some content that's nearly as good as KHIIFM, but you can't change the floaty gameplay.

Apparently it did address a lot of that! All the major KH speedrunners were very ehh on KH3 before it dropped and ecstatic afterward, from what I know.

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Endeavor
FEEL the POWER in YOUR SOUL
The Whereabouts of Light

Really good songs on display today. And I'm not just saying it cause one of them is one of my noms! Even the weakest of these six is still quite solid. :)

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agesboy posted...

i looked at a timeline and his first gcds is just his 123 combo repeated four times before he begins pressing any ogcds

nothing that an OT has to worry about even happens until about a minute in, when you have to dodge mirrors

He Bad

You literally have to open with a prepull No Mercy on Shiva for maximum efficiency. Get rid of this dude.

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BlAcK TuRtLe posted...

I haven't done the new relic yet, but I'm really disappointed we didn't get more Eureka-like content. I know it wasn't popular, but I really enjoyed the Eureka grind, so much more than previous relics. I can't stand having bullshit RNG mechanics involved, so just straigh up grinding away while I caught up on shows on my second screen was great.

We haven't even gotten to the grindy step yet

There isn't Relic content yet, it's pure story. Hold off until 5.3 to find out what the actual grind looks like imo.

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